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| johnsom | I think that is still broken, but that is one fix | 00:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Return availability_zone with the amphora record https://review.openstack.org/511045 | 01:20 |
| rm_work | johnsom: actually, realized that test didn't even check for that... <_< | 01:21 |
| rm_work | but, fixed now | 01:21 |
| rm_work | erg forgot one thing | 01:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Return availability_zone with the amphora record https://review.openstack.org/511045 | 01:23 |
| kong | rm_work: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/lib/common/validation_resources.py | 02:01 |
| kong | it's there | 02:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/octavia master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/511112 | 03:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajat Sharma proposed openstack/octavia master: Replace 'manager' with 'os_primary' and 'os_adm' with 'os_admin' https://review.openstack.org/478399 | 04:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/octavia-dashboard master: Migrate to Zuul v3 https://review.openstack.org/511158 | 07:15 |
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| rm_work | kong: yes that is my point | 07:27 |
| rm_work | it's in git-master but it isn't in *any actual release* yet | 07:27 |
| rm_work | the latest release is 17.0.0 | 07:28 |
| rm_work | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/17.0.0/tempest/lib/common/validation_resources.py | 07:28 |
| rm_work | 404 | 07:28 |
| rm_work | so you need tempest-from-git which i don't think should be required :/ | 07:28 |
| rm_work | i wonder when the next tempest release will be | 07:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chenghui Yu proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Fix usage of method ensure_dir https://review.openstack.org/502932 | 08:54 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Due to unrelated emergencies, the Zuul v3 rollout has not started yet; stay tuned for further updates | 13:05 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Longstaff proposed openstack/octavia master: First draft provider drivers spec https://review.openstack.org/509957 | 17:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Longstaff proposed openstack/octavia master: Fixes doc8 errors; some review comments. https://review.openstack.org/511313 | 17:47 |
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| johnsom | longstaff Hi | 18:05 |
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| johnsom | I was going to ask if you had any ideas on this gate failure: http://logs.openstack.org/18/501618/16/check/gate-neutron-lbaas-dashboard-nodejs4-npm-run-test/47f2d11/console.html | 18:09 |
| johnsom | But, it looks like that patch is having new issues recently, so I'm going to recheck it again. | 18:09 |
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| longstaf_ | johnsom Sorry I was away. I can take a look at the gate failure. | 19:16 |
| johnsom | longstaf_ Thanks, It could just be an infra issue, but I rechecked it a few times. I have not been able to figure out what the issue might be | 19:16 |
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| longstaf_ | johnsom karma.conf.js defines files to be laoded, and for angular directives like schema-form.js, order is important. My guess is that something is referencing a schema-form.js directive before schem-form.js is loaded. | 19:34 |
| johnsom | I did some searches, I wonder if I searched for the wrong thing. | 19:34 |
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| longstaf_ | As schema-form.js is a directive that creates Bootstrap forms from JSON schema, so we need to find the code that is using the schema directive and load it after schema-form.js. | 19:35 |
| longstaf_ | I'll dig around, but I think we just need to change the order of toxPath elements in karma.conf.js. | 19:36 |
| johnsom | Ok, thanks! | 19:37 |
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| johnsom | Octavia meeting starting soon, right here... | 19:58 |
| rm_work | :P | 19:59 |
| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 20:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Happy dance, meeting bot is working here.... | 20:00 |
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| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| jniesz | hi | 20:00 |
| johnsom | A few reminders: | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Next week is Queens milestone 1 | 20:01 |
| longstaf_ | hi | 20:01 |
| rm_work | wat | 20:01 |
| rm_work | already | 20:01 |
| johnsom | I will be doing MS1 releases next week | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Yeah, seems like time has flown by.... | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Also, Newton EOL coming 10/18 | 20:01 |
| rm_work | poor newton, we hardly knew ye | 20:02 |
| johnsom | I have made final releases of the stable/newton projects. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | I have also closed out any open patches against newton. | 20:02 |
| rm_work | we might even upgrade our cloud to newton before Q1! :P | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Ha | 20:03 |
| johnsom | ummmm | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Yeah, | 20:03 |
| rm_work | errr sorry, i meant mitaka, nevermind :( | 20:03 |
| jniesz | our cloud is on Newton, but we are on Ocata release of Octavia | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Also, in case you missed it, zuul v3 has been postponed again. The Jenkins gates have been a bit broken so most folks are working on those at the moment. | 20:03 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:04 |
| rm_work | yeah i think the official recommendation is to run Octavia as close to current as possible | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Yeah, good stuff is usually found in the recent releases | 20:04 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, can we expand on CI in the open discussion part? (just to recap the current state of things) | 20:04 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi Sure thing | 20:04 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, thanks :) | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Another announcement, we have a new core reviewer: nmagnezi | 20:05 |
| johnsom | (in case you don't read the OpenStack developer e-mail list) | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Congratulations Nir! | 20:05 |
| jniesz | congrats | 20:05 |
| nmagnezi | thank you :) | 20:05 |
| nmagnezi | I'm excited to join this great team! | 20:06 |
| johnsom | We could still use at least one more, so please do quality reviews and you too can become core! | 20:06 |
| * rm_work glares at JudeC :P | 20:06 | |
| johnsom | Hahaha | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements today? | 20:07 |
| JudeC | :P | 20:07 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:08 | |
| johnsom | Ok, on to progress updates / patches | 20:08 |
| johnsom | I have been working on a bunch of different things this week. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | One of which is a database diagram for our docs: | 20:09 |
| johnsom | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/19/509319/5/check/gate-octavia-docs-ubuntu-xenial/b91b593//doc/build/html/contributor/devref/erd.html | 20:09 |
| rm_work | Could use comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509933/ as to whether anyone actually wants something like that, or if we really should just "let stuff failover" even on major maintenances. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | That patch is up for review: https://review.openstack.org/509319 | 20:09 |
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| johnsom | The layout is by graphviz, so not ideal, but it is generated when patches merge, so it's always up to date. | 20:10 |
| rm_work | And regardless of whether we actually want to do internal maintenance API stuff, it would be helpful to land either of these two options for at least being able to fetch the AZ info: https://review.openstack.org/510225 or https://review.openstack.org/511045 | 20:10 |
| johnsom | This patch for the 404 issue with nics not coming up is still open: https://review.openstack.org/507986 | 20:10 |
| rm_work | So, please comment, don't need to be a core to give good feedback (in fact, I'd *specifically* like to hear from some of the non-cores that don't speak up very much) | 20:11 |
| rm_work | Ah, that one was on our side? | 20:11 |
| rm_work | I'll look at it today. | 20:11 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, I asked there (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507986/ ) how to test this one, I can review it next week (when I'm back from PTO) | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Yes, reviews from non-cores are super helpful! | 20:12 |
| rm_work | I feel like it's hard to verify it actually fixes the issue? but just... as long as it doesn't BREAK anything... i'm happy | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Also, please have a look at the provider driver spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509957/ | 20:12 |
| rm_work | (just in this case) | 20:12 |
| nmagnezi | maybe we should just that #link thing so all patches that needs attention will go into the meeting minutes | 20:13 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi I see that. It is super hard to reproduce that issue. I have only been able to do it once locally. | 20:13 |
| johnsom | Sigh, yes, should be using line | 20:14 |
| johnsom | link | 20:14 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509957/ | 20:14 |
| rm_work | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509933/ | 20:14 |
| rm_work | #link https://review.openstack.org/510225 | 20:14 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/507986 | 20:14 |
| rm_work | #link https://review.openstack.org/511045 | 20:14 |
| rm_work | I wonder if it lets me link | 20:14 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, fair enough. in that case I'll give it a shot and if it won't reproduce I'll just check that the code itself looks okay | 20:14 |
| johnsom | You might be able to artificially trigger the code, but getting the 404 error to occur is just cycles and cycles of LB creates | 20:15 |
| johnsom | probably not worth the time to try to reproduce it. | 20:15 |
| johnsom | rm_work Everyone can link | 20:15 |
| rm_work | k | 20:15 |
| nmagnezi | okay. agreed. | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Other than that, I am trying to get back to working on the active/active patches. | 20:16 |
| johnsom | Any other progress updates? | 20:16 |
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| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:16 | |
| johnsom | nmagnezi Thanks for reminding me to use the link tag... It's been a bit of a day already... | 20:17 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, np :) | 20:17 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi I think you had a CI question? | 20:17 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, yes | 20:17 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, I was (and still am) out this week so just wanted to know what is the latest with CI. I'm gonna review stuff next week and want to know if I should even try to recheck stuff | 20:18 |
| nmagnezi | so sorry if I'm asking something and everyone else are already up to date | 20:18 |
| nmagnezi | I understand we reverted back from the Zuul upgrade? | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Yeah, so right now we are still running on zuul v2, but they want to switch over to zuul v3 soon (again) | 20:19 |
| nmagnezi | and currently.. CI works okay? | 20:19 |
| johnsom | I have not seen firm dates of when this is all going to happen. | 20:19 |
| johnsom | So, my take is go ahead and try a recheck unless you see a channel topic or banner asking you not to. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | I have seen some CI issues off and on the last few days. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Currently, until the zuul v3 switch, you will see results for zuul, but they are not actually voting until they make the switch. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | I am watching the OpenStack developer mailing list to try to keep track of the state of things. | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | okay. So in the meantime I should expect this to somehow not block us from getting result | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | s | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | ack. will watch for that one as well | 20:21 |
| johnsom | We can hope.... | 20:22 |
| johnsom | The last zuul v3 switch basically blocked us for a few days. | 20:22 |
| johnsom | I keep telling myself, it will be nice when we are switched over.... | 20:22 |
| rm_work | yeah... i really am looking forward to it | 20:23 |
| tongl | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123337.html | 20:23 |
| rm_work | and yeah, if "zuul" -1's something, ignore it | 20:23 |
| nmagnezi | mm i guess we can hope here as well | 20:23 |
| rm_work | only "Jenkins" counts right now | 20:23 |
| rm_work | even if it says scary things like "Patch in Merge Conflict" like it did for me, Jenkins will override it | 20:24 |
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| johnsom | Yep | 20:24 |
| tongl | It seems it will start rollback at 11:00 UTC today | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123337.html | 20:24 |
| johnsom | tongl That time has come and gone, they posted in the channel that they could not start. | 20:25 |
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| johnsom | So... who knows. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Other open discussion items today? | 20:25 |
| nmagnezi | a minor question about the client | 20:25 |
| nmagnezi | I recall we had some gap about setting quotas | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | did we manage to get in fixed by now? | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Yeah, OSC is missing: status tree, stats, and quotas if I remember correctly | 20:26 |
| rm_work | Oh, I have a client bug open that we also need to get in... | 20:26 |
| rm_work | #link https://review.openstack.org/505851 | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | rm_work, shameless plug :P | 20:26 |
| kong | morning guys | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I need to look at that | 20:27 |
| johnsom | hi kong | 20:27 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, where are those being tracked? I may try to find some cycles to help with those | 20:27 |
| rm_work | :P we were talking about the client ;) | 20:27 |
| rm_work | morning kong | 20:27 |
| nmagnezi | can't promise just yet, but I want to try to get this fixed in queens | 20:27 |
| kong | for q-1, i'd like to know if there is a chance for the tempest patch to merge | 20:27 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/911 | 20:27 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, thanks! | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Looks like I dont' have a story for quota, so I will add that after the meeting | 20:28 |
| nmagnezi | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/911 | 20:28 |
| rm_work | Ah, I have also had a couple of things waiting for a while, one which is a quality-of-life change to batch members... Another is the addition of support for PKCS12 certfiles, which I'd like to get in asap so people can get used to it | 20:28 |
| rm_work | #link https://review.openstack.org/477034 | 20:28 |
| rm_work | #link https://review.openstack.org/504175 | 20:28 |
| rm_work | kong: we're working on it again today | 20:28 |
| rm_work | kong: actually if you want to help speed that up, possibly jump in a video-conf with us in a bit? | 20:29 |
| kong | not sure it's convenient for me in the office | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Oh, one other thing, there are a few patches with "WIP" in the title but do not have -1 in the workflow. Could you please check that your WIP patches have -1 in workflow? | 20:29 |
| johnsom | It helps with my patch review filter... | 20:30 |
| nmagnezi | noted. | 20:30 |
| johnsom | xgerman_ has this one: https://review.openstack.org/499807 | 20:30 |
| rm_work | kong: k np, actually i think we have a couple things to sort out first anyway | 20:30 |
| johnsom | I will ping swami on his | 20:30 |
| kong | rm_work: we could take about that specific issue after the meeting | 20:31 |
| johnsom | Other topics today? | 20:31 |
| johnsom | Ok, thanks folks! | 20:32 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Welcome to LBaaS / Octavia - Queens development is now open." | 20:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 20:32:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-10-11-20.00.html | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-10-11-20.00.txt | 20:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-10-11-20.00.log.html | 20:32 |
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| jniesz | just a heads up, if anybody knows anyone looking, we are hiring for a position to help with Octavia development | 20:33 |
| jniesz | https://walmart.rolepoint.com/?shorturl=LawD5#job/ahBzfnJvbGVwb2ludC1wcm9kchALEgNKb2IYgIDQgMrc9AgM | 20:33 |
| nmagnezi | jniesz, good stuff! | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Nice | 20:33 |
| rm_work | jniesz: what level position is it? entry or senior? | 20:34 |
| xgerman_ | sorry, forgot about our meeting — will read the scrollback… | 20:34 |
| jniesz | senior | 20:34 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman_, it's nice that now it's in this channel, one less channel to keep track of :) | 20:35 |
| xgerman_ | yep | 20:35 |
| kong | rm_work: so, what are the current issues for the tempest patch? | 20:36 |
| rm_work | working on one of them | 20:41 |
| jniesz | rm_work, I had a question on your availablility zone patches | 20:42 |
| rm_work | kk | 20:42 |
| jniesz | the one uses database and the other is retrieving from nova | 20:42 |
| jniesz | how do you see this working with flavors? | 20:42 |
| jniesz | one thing we talked about was specifying az in flavor metadata | 20:43 |
| jniesz | for octavia handler | 20:43 |
| rm_work | jniesz: the one that retrieves from nova is actually retrieving from *the compute driver* | 20:43 |
| rm_work | not nova | 20:43 |
| rm_work | important distinction | 20:43 |
| jniesz | ok | 20:43 |
| rm_work | hmmm | 20:44 |
| jniesz | for the compute driver one, wouldn't that be a lot slower for returning a list of all amps and az's | 20:44 |
| rm_work | well, the AZ is per amphora | 20:44 |
| rm_work | the flavor would be ... on the LB? | 20:44 |
| jniesz | yea, flavor is tied to LB | 20:44 |
| rm_work | jniesz: yes. and I don't like it as much as the other way. but, unless we get some comments on it, johnsom is not in favor | 20:44 |
| rm_work | so two amps could have two different AZs | 20:44 |
| rm_work | storing amp info on something that's 1:1 with LB doesn't really work | 20:45 |
| jniesz | true, if you anit-affinity policy perhaps | 20:45 |
| jniesz | agreed | 20:45 |
| rm_work | even without it | 20:45 |
| jniesz | so it makes sense to track on amp level | 20:45 |
| rm_work | nova could provision to any number of AZs | 20:45 |
| rm_work | (I think? at least, ours can, so i assume others' can) | 20:46 |
| jniesz | hmm, what is the argument for not putting in DB? | 20:47 |
| rm_work | that nova is the source of truth | 20:47 |
| rm_work | and deployers could ... like, live-migrate stuff outside of our system | 20:47 |
| rm_work | making our DB inaccurate | 20:47 |
| jniesz | who live migrates : ) | 20:48 |
| jniesz | destroy/create | 20:48 |
| rm_work | i seriously don't know anyone who does | 20:48 |
| rm_work | but I need johnsom's vote T_T | 20:49 |
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| xgerman_ | yeah, I think we should pull from nova, too — safer that way | 20:54 |
| jniesz | with active/active direction I think live migrate is bad | 20:54 |
| jniesz | feels like we are treating amp like pet at that point | 20:55 |
| jniesz | just my 2c | 20:55 |
| xgerman_ | agreed. But if the nova team doesn’t know about Octavia and just migrates a whole server… | 20:56 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I think it comes down to how ops manages host maintenance. | 20:56 |
| xgerman_ | yep, I hate runbooks with exceptions like “migrate all the finance vms but leave Octavia alone” | 20:57 |
| johnsom | Either way, I don't like not relying on the source of truth for data like that. | 20:57 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 20:57 |
| johnsom | Even a AZ rename in nova would cause us headaches | 20:57 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 20:58 |
| jniesz | yea, the downside is you would have to implement eventual consistency | 21:00 |
| xgerman_ | at least if we query we don’t get out of sync for long… | 21:00 |
| johnsom | Not to mention this is only for an admin API | 21:01 |
| jniesz | yea, the usage and how often this gets called would factor | 21:01 |
| xgerman_ | indeed… | 21:02 |
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