Wednesday, 2016-08-31

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johnsomFriendly reminder, ATC codes Sept. 1st00:31
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openstackgerritDarren Chan proposed openstack/octavia: Update readme file  https://review.openstack.org/35327001:00
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Subnet host routes support for plug_network  https://review.openstack.org/34970801:21
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openstackgerritlilintan proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Remove unused logging import  https://review.openstack.org/36336302:59
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gchereshjohnsom: Hi Michael07:19
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gchereshjohnsom: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317862/ is in review for a couple of months, we need it very much for testing lbaas with tempest in our automation CI, Can you give us an estimation when and if it will be merged?07:23
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openstackgerritlilintan proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Remove unused logging  https://review.openstack.org/36336307:32
rm_workgcheresh: I can ask fnaval_ tomorrow, he's doing the QE for my group and I think he mentioned it was missing something, but maybe i am misremembering... I'd like him to review it either way07:32
rm_worki'll ask him to look at it in the morning, and if he says it is good then I am OK to merge it07:33
gchereshrm_work: Thank you very much, I think me and fnaval_ wrote the same code, I just wrote it a couple weeks before him07:35
rm_workyeah07:35
rm_workI noticed T_T07:35
gchereshrm_work: maybe rebase will be needed as the code is stucked there for a lot of time, but first give me ok on it07:36
rm_workgcheresh: i mean, we WILL merge it07:36
rm_workwe just need to make sure it is finished07:36
rm_workdefinitely do the rebase07:36
gchereshgreat, thanks07:37
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nmagnezirm_work, hi Adam, any idea where can I find the weekly meeting agenda?08:18
nmagnezirm_work, i would like to propose couple of items for today's meeting08:18
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rm_worknmagnezi: did you find it?14:33
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johnsomnmagnezi https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda15:16
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carrbsHi, I wanna work on some brizoke stuff in octavia, anyone have a good place to start?15:34
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diltramyou can look for something on our launchpad15:37
diltramcarrbs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs15:38
diltramthere is a lot of bugs to work on15:38
carrbsdiltram: cool, thanks I’ll start there :)15:41
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nmagnezijohnsom, hi. any chance you can add another subject to the meeting agenda today?19:42
johnsomSure, I can or you can edit it19:43
nmagnezijohnsom, how can i edit?19:44
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johnsomYou can use your OpenStack account to edit the wiki page the agenda is on19:45
nmagnezijohnsom, ack. the meeting is in 15 min? or an hour and 15min? (time differences, sorry:) )19:46
johnsom15 minutes19:47
johnsomnmagnezi I can add your items for you if you would like19:49
nmagnezijohnsom, i'm on it :) thanks!19:49
johnsomOk19:49
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nmagnezijohnsom, for some reason i get: Incorrect or missing CAPTCHA.19:57
nmagnezistrange..19:57
johnsomHmm, it is usually the "are you a robot" box at the bottom.  Sometimes it's a question at the top.19:57
sbalukoffAdmit it: You're a robot.19:57
nmagnezisbalukoff, aren't we all?19:58
johnsomOctavia meeting starting soon on #openstack-meeting-alt19:58
nmagnezijohnsom, for some reason now it worked19:58
johnsomOk, got them19:59
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openstackgerritLeslie Lundquist proposed openstack/octavia: Adding introduction and developer quick start docs  https://review.openstack.org/23217320:45
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sbalukoffTrevorV: See, the key is: I'm just an asshole. ;)20:48
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sbalukoffWoo-hoo! New patch from Leslie!20:48
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sbalukoffI need to get her back on IRC here...20:48
TrevorVYou say that so much, I'm not sure I'm convinced its true sbalukoff :)20:48
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nmagnezisbalukoff, does this make things easier? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1613251/comments/1 lemme know if something is now clear in how I wrote it20:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1613251 in neutron "HAproxy scenario tests cleanup fail with a StaleDataError (LBaaSv1 and LBaaSv2)" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Nir Magnezi (nmagnezi)20:49
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sbalukoffnmagnezi: I'll have a look in a bit and let you know.20:50
nmagnezisbalukoff, alright20:50
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dougwigrm_work, johnsom (and anyone interested): let's talk bug 146575821:24
openstackbug 1465758 in neutron "[RFE] Add the ability to create lb vip and member with network_id" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465758 - Assigned to Doug Wiegley (dougwig)21:24
dougwigrm_work: seems you have a problem with the idea behind this RFE?21:24
rm_worknot a problem21:25
rm_workso much as i just don't get it21:25
rm_workenlighten me?21:26
rm_workoh wait no, actually i just read the bug and i kinda get it now21:26
rm_worksorry, looking at multiple things simultaneously and i don't remember which one is stupid/pointless21:26
rm_workone of them is21:26
dougwigrm_work: to my mind, it brings how lbaas vip's are selected in parity with how nova ip addresses are selected.  i think we got it dead wrong with subnets.21:26
dougwig(different model, bypassing neutron ipam, etc.)21:27
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johnsomSo basically what this is trying to do is allow us to pick the subnet from all of those on the network?21:27
rm_workmy only dislike would maybe be that ipv6 isn't default :P but that's reality for you21:27
rm_workas long as we think it's POSSIBLE for an algorithm to intelligently select a subnet21:27
dougwigjohnsom: no, it means you can do the moral equivalent of "loadbalancer create --net private-net" instead of specifying a subnet inside the net.21:27
rm_workthen that's fine21:27
johnsomYeah, I would argue v6 should be first priority... grin21:27
rm_workdougwig: i always thought that was kinda dumb of the nova client, and that it should be asking for a subnet T_T21:28
rm_workbut maybe I just don't understand how their ip alloc strategy works21:28
dougwigrm_work: i'd rather have neutron pick a subnet in most cases. there's lots of ipam work about selecting specific tor subnets and such, that our api defeats.21:28
rm_workalright, that's just my inexperience with neutron then21:29
dougwigheh, put the v6 comment on the patch.  dreamers.21:29
johnsomHaha, ok, reading through the RFE, I get it.21:29
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sbalukoffHow are amphorae on the subnet selected going to talk to the health monitor if the health monitor happens to be on a different subnet in the same network?21:31
sbalukoffHow is the CW going to talk to these amphorae as well?21:31
rm_workis it possible for two amps in active/standby to select different subnets?21:31
rm_workwould that interfere with their ability to vrrp?21:32
rm_workor do haproxy peering21:32
johnsomsbalukoff I don't think we are talking about changing the management net here21:32
sbalukoffOh?21:32
sbalukoffI need to read through the RFE...21:32
rm_workah yeah this is vip subnet?21:32
johnsomVIP subnet21:33
rm_workso nm21:33
johnsomrm_work You do have a good point.  The sync is over the VIP network.21:33
sbalukoffYeah, that's true.21:33
rm_workah, yes21:33
johnsom(something I don't like and there is a bug for)21:33
rm_worklol21:33
johnsomdougwig I assume there is no requirement that subnets in the same network are routable, correct?21:35
dougwigjohnsom: that's a whole big "it's neutron's problem" kettle of fish: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/newton/routed-networks.html#routed-networks21:36
johnsomYeah, I have been trying to ignore that...21:37
dougwigjohnsom: for smaller clouds, you can. those are still basically 1:1 net:subnet.21:37
dougwigjohnsom: that entire spec basically says to me, "yeah, we done fucked up. abstracting L2 across the planet is silly."21:38
johnsomGrin21:38
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johnsomdougwig reviewed21:48
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pglasswhat is `admin_state_up` for?21:50
pglass"The administrative state of the resource, which is up (true) or down (false)."21:50
pglassdoes that mean an admin can toggle traffic to the loadbalancer, to take it down for maintenance or something?21:51
johnsomenable/disable a part of the load balancer.  I.e. admin state up == False on the load balancer means the LB exists as configured, but is temporarily disabled.21:51
pglassjohnsom: what do you mean by enable/disable "a part" of the loadbalancer?21:59
pglassare there multiple parts I could disable? or which part does it disable?22:00
johnsomYou can admin_state_up=False on other elements of a load balancer, such as a listener22:00
pglassoh I see.22:00
pglassso if I set admin_state_up on the loadbalancer resource, does that also set it on the loadbalancer's associated listeners?22:01
pglassit looks like it doesn't.22:01
johnsomNo, you are impacting just that part of the LB.  so, doing it on the LB itself effectively does it to the children, but does not explicitly set them22:02
pglassso I've set admin_state_up = False on a loadbalancer, and it still allows traffic to my members.22:03
johnsomI would not expect that22:03
pglasswell, I may be doing something wrong or have something misconfigured. I'll take another look tomorrow.22:06
johnsomYeah, I can work with you tomorrow on it22:06
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Subnet host routes support for plug_network  https://review.openstack.org/34970823:10
johnsomCould use some review eyes on that23:10
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sbalukoffOk, I'll add it to the list. :)23:18
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