| sbalukoff | It's probably going to be a while before n-lbaas goes away. How bad would it be for that information not bubbling up for, say... a long time. | 00:00 |
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| rm_work | so i'd probably vote we fix the status issue | 00:00 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, feature parity is unlikely to make it this cycle, IMO. | 00:00 |
| rm_work | because yeah, i'd like that to not be a bug all the way into O-release | 00:00 |
| TrevorV2 | sbalukoff well it ALREADY doesn't, so its "regular" right now? | 00:00 |
| rm_work | lol | 00:00 |
| rm_work | it's a "bug" now IMO | 00:00 |
| TrevorV2 | Agreed, but no one has caught it yet, cept me, and no one is complaining about it, so idk? | 00:00 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah... we should probably fix that in n-lbaas. | 00:00 |
| sbalukoff | Otherwise people will complain that this "feature" has changed. | 00:01 |
| TrevorV2 | I mean, I'm not advocating to ignore it, don't get me wrong, just curious what comm's thoughts are | 00:01 |
| rm_work | and a pretty bad one actually, because without node status info, the user has no way to deal with fixing their nodes (and it's actually actively misleading) | 00:01 |
| rm_work | "oh god why are all my nodes offline" | 00:01 |
| rm_work | makes it completely impossible for anyone to automate fixing their stuff | 00:01 |
| TrevorV2 | rm_work to be clear, it actually records that all nodes are "online" when they might not necessarily be | 00:01 |
| rm_work | rofl | 00:02 |
| rm_work | ok well, that's ... maybe slightly better, but not much | 00:02 |
| sbalukoff | It's not better. | 00:03 |
| sbalukoff | (It's worse, IMO, to report everything OK when it's not.... at least a false alarm means production services aren't actually affected.) | 00:03 |
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| rm_work | either way it's bad | 00:07 |
| TrevorV2 | Alright, well then we need to fix octavia's reporting mechanism | 00:08 |
| rm_work | i think it's just that ... it was never added | 00:08 |
| sbalukoff | Sounds like it. | 00:08 |
| rm_work | not that it broke | 00:08 |
| TrevorV2 | And make sure neutron lbaas is going to update the operating status with that same mechanism | 00:08 |
| TrevorV2 | agreed rm_work | 00:08 |
| rm_work | there's a framework for sending events to the queue for n-lbaas to pick up | 00:08 |
| TrevorV2 | Alrighty, I'll take look at that then | 00:08 |
| rm_work | (part of what carlos wrote) | 00:08 |
| rm_work | you just have to add the event in the right spot | 00:08 |
| rm_work | I guess the hm? | 00:08 |
| rm_work | whatever detects nodes going online/offline | 00:09 |
| rm_work | and it should send it up the queue | 00:09 |
| rm_work | then need something on the n-lbaas side to read them and update DB accordingly | 00:09 |
| rm_work | it's uh... | 00:09 |
| johnsom | Someone rang | 00:09 |
| rm_work | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/octavia/controller/queue/event_queue.py | 00:10 |
| rm_work | johnsom: was wondering if we're still blocking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298424/ for some reason or another | 00:11 |
| rm_work | and why exactly | 00:11 |
| rm_work | TrevorV2: ^^ event_queue.py | 00:11 |
| johnsom | Looking | 00:11 |
| rm_work | I think you inherit that and call the method for it | 00:11 |
| rm_work | or ... uhh something like that | 00:11 |
| rm_work | damn, let me try to find the example | 00:12 |
| TrevorV2 | rm_work I know what "listens" on neutron lbaas | 00:12 |
| TrevorV2 | But I've just never dug into the bit that sends it to the queue in octavia | 00:12 |
| rm_work | hmm k good because I don't | 00:12 |
| rm_work | yeah i only know the octavia side | 00:12 |
| rm_work | because I helped design it with carlos | 00:12 |
| rm_work | ok yeah not inherit, sorry | 00:13 |
| rm_work | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/octavia/controller/healthmanager/update_db.py#L38 | 00:13 |
| rm_work | you make a thing using stevedore | 00:13 |
| rm_work | and then call .emit() on it | 00:13 |
| rm_work | with your message... | 00:13 |
| rm_work | which, I think we had specific classes for them? :/ | 00:13 |
| rm_work | it's been a while, you can figure it out, but everything you need should already exist | 00:14 |
| rm_work | just need to actually emit the events in the right place | 00:14 |
| johnsom | rm_work I think my issue was around fixing the issue in the upstart script as well as the init.d. Upstart is what the decstack, etc uses | 00:15 |
| rm_work | yeah though not for tooooo long | 00:15 |
| rm_work | upstart is dead | 00:15 |
| johnsom | Right. Volunteering to do systemd? | 00:15 |
| rm_work | I mean | 00:15 |
| rm_work | what is this... sysvinit? | 00:16 |
| rm_work | I don't even know | 00:17 |
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| rm_work | the init landscape in linux is a clusterf@$% | 00:17 |
| johnsom | Yeah, the patch is against the sysvinit scripts. Agreed | 00:17 |
| rm_work | can we just fix this and then focus on other things in other patches? >_> | 00:17 |
| johnsom | I haven't gone too deep one the systemd stuff yet, but it seems that is the way folks are going | 00:18 |
| rm_work | yeah, and great! let's add that | 00:18 |
| rm_work | that has nothing to do with fixing sysvinit >_> | 00:18 |
| rm_work | it should be a different CR | 00:18 |
| rm_work | I'm just looking to get some acknowledgement from the various -1s on there right now | 00:19 |
| rm_work | that blocking this because it doesn't ALSO fix some other unrelated init system is a bit silly | 00:19 |
| rm_work | if there was another concern (like, we should try to fix the root cause of the werkzeug restart issue) then I'm open to hearing that | 00:20 |
| rm_work | but this is >_> | 00:20 |
| johnsom | Systemd is definitely a different patch. Fixing the upstart at the same time as the sysvinit, I need to think about. Let me read the patch again. On my phone screen at the moment | 00:20 |
| rm_work | ah lol | 00:20 |
| rm_work | np | 00:20 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Is there a launchpad bug on this? | 00:22 |
| rm_work | hmmm, I don't know, let me check | 00:22 |
| sbalukoff | I think I'd be OK merging this as is, so long as it's listed as a fix for a bug. ...and also a second bug report for dealing with the systemd changes that need to happen. (Or that same bug, if this one is referenced as a partial fix for it.) | 00:23 |
| johnsom | Yes, for werkz-whatever bug there is. It is blocking another patch too if I remeber | 00:23 |
| sbalukoff | Adam: Can you update the commit message to actually reference the bug, then? (I think you said you would in a previous comment.) | 00:24 |
| johnsom | Ok, so I remember this now, I IRC chatted with you about it. My ask was to just add the process kill to the pre-stop upstart block in the upstart script. If this fixes the werkz issue, that should solve it for everyone | 00:25 |
| rm_work | Yeah, I remember that | 00:25 |
| rm_work | I also remember that I don't know how upstart works, and it's not used in any OS I touch anymore :P | 00:26 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 00:26 |
| johnsom | I think I gave a pointer to the upstart docs for that block too. Not sure if I can paste the url via my phone | 00:27 |
| rm_work | hmm, failing at finding the bug too >_> | 00:28 |
| johnsom | http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#pre-stop | 00:29 |
| johnsom | Ha, it does work | 00:29 |
| johnsom | Ok, just a sec and I will find the bug | 00:29 |
| rm_work | do you remember what the bug was called? | 00:29 |
| rm_work | i just read through all of them and none of them SEEM related | 00:29 |
| rm_work | *scanned the titles | 00:30 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I don't see it either. I wonder if it got closed somehow. Still looking. It was assigned to xgerman if I remember right | 00:35 |
| rm_work | hmm | 00:35 |
| rm_work | adding in all the types | 00:35 |
| TrevorV2 | rm_work I'm confused about something | 00:36 |
| rm_work | https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1496628 | 00:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1496628 in octavia "Amphora agent reload fails with socket in use" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to German Eichberger (german-eichberger) | 00:36 |
| rm_work | this maybe | 00:36 |
| TrevorV2 | in "update_db.py" line 64 | 00:36 |
| johnsom | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1496628 | 00:37 |
| johnsom | I looks like it got closed. I am not convinced that fixed it though | 00:38 |
| rm_work | me either | 00:38 |
| johnsom | Fyi, I have been off the grid for the most part this week. Mailed my gear back to HP and my personal laptop order got delayed, so, yeah. It ended up a vacation week. | 00:45 |
| rm_work | heh | 00:45 |
| rm_work | yeah | 00:45 |
| rm_work | what about your new work laptop order? :P | 00:45 |
| johnsom | I don't know. I gave Cody my selections. I hope it will be there when I arrive next week. | 00:46 |
| rm_work | yeah, hopefully | 00:46 |
| somerville32 | I believe it is. | 00:46 |
| johnsom | I take it you aren't heading down for next week? | 00:46 |
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| rm_work | I am not T_T | 00:59 |
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| kong | hi, guys, can we remove the steps of https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L141 here. and do the similar thing inside octavia-healthmonitor process? just like the way neutron-dhcp-agent does? | 01:29 |
| kong | our operators feel scared when they saw the a little bit 'hacking' thing in the script. | 01:30 |
| kong | or, do you have other suggestions to do that? | 01:30 |
| rm_work | hacking thing? | 01:30 |
| rm_work | This is devstack plugin only... | 01:30 |
| rm_work | most operators should never be running this :P | 01:31 |
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| kong | rm_work: hi, but if not, how they could do the similar thing? Our operators just take that plugin for reference. | 01:37 |
| kong | s/plugin/plugin.sh | 01:37 |
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| kong | they need to do similar things on the host o-healthmonitor is running, anyway | 01:39 |
| kong | I took a look at the neutron-dhcp-agent code, it also need to connect various tenant networks | 01:40 |
| kong | and it just creates the necessary port/interface by itself | 01:41 |
| kong | things operators need to do, is just start dhcp-agent process | 01:41 |
| kong | what I mean is, why not we do the similar thing in octavia-healthmonitor process/ | 01:42 |
| johnsom | kong Maybe there is some confusion. This code in the plugin does not plug tenant networks. | 01:56 |
| kong | johnsom: hi, I mean, the network that between the amphora vms and health monitor | 01:56 |
| kong | management network | 01:57 |
| johnsom | This just creates a management network for the amps in devstack. Most operators manually create the network, typically as a provider network. At least that is how we do it in Helion | 01:58 |
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| kong | johnsom: is there any document for me to learn about how Helion does this? | 02:01 |
| johnsom | Well, docs.hpcloud.net has the documentation | 02:02 |
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| kong | johnsom: one question, Can tenant-network and provider-network exist together at one deployment? | 03:01 |
| kong | I'm not very farmiliar with neutron | 03:01 |
| johnsom | Yes | 03:02 |
| kong | johnsom: thanks! | 03:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Add in missing translation for exception https://review.openstack.org/330322 | 04:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Add python 3 classifiers https://review.openstack.org/330967 | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Set up hooks for the functional job and add test_migrations test https://review.openstack.org/320999 | 13:20 |
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| Frito | o/ | 14:19 |
| Frito | bouncer is having trouble connecting so I'll just have to direct connect :-) | 14:20 |
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| TrevorV_ | You sound like you're complaining, but I don't think you are | 14:53 |
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| Frito | lol | 14:57 |
| Frito | smidget of complaint there but more apathy than anything | 14:58 |
| diltram | morning | 15:02 |
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| xgerman | morning | 15:02 |
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| matt-borland | here's a patch to LBaaS UI...it wasn't taking OPENSTACK_ENDPOINT_TYPE into account for its Barbican calls: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330697/ | 15:43 |
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| diltram | matt-borland: reviewsed | 16:35 |
| matt-borland | diltram, thank you! :) | 16:35 |
| diltram | matt-borland: you're welcome | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/331173 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/331175 | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia: Updates to amphora-agent init.d script for Debian https://review.openstack.org/298424 | 22:36 |
| rm_work | just rebasing ^^ | 22:36 |
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