Wednesday, 2016-03-09

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xgermandoug-fish ping00:27
doug-fishxgerman: hello00:28
xgermanhi, so you probably saw we are changing the cascade_delete endpoint00:28
xgermanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/287593/00:29
doug-fishnope. Hadn't seen that00:29
xgermanwell, that’s why I am reaching out...00:30
doug-fish:-) great!00:30
xgermanafter lots of bike shedding that was the best we could do00:31
doug-fishso offhand - do you know the expected usage of this new API? How will we know if a driver supports cascade delete?00:31
xgermanit will raise Not Implemented00:33
doug-fishhmm okay00:33
xgermanprobably HTTP 50100:33
xgermanyeah, I liked the old way better — but I am not the PTL00:34
doug-fishunderstood00:34
doug-fishThe old way certainly worked better for our use case, but API consistency is certainly important00:34
doug-fishor so I've heard. I'm a UI developer.00:35
xgermanI think we were splitting hairs on that one...00:35
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xgermanbut anyhow, now you know :-)00:35
doug-fishyeah, I appreciate the heads up00:35
sbalukoffIt was a long, hard battle to come to this.00:35
johnsomMany cans of paint00:35
* xgerman has bruises to show for it00:35
sbalukoffIndeed!00:35
doug-fishIs there a record of the battle? IRC discussion?00:36
openstackgerritMadhusudhan Kandadai proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: [WIP] Neutron LBaaS: TLS Barbican Scenario Test  https://review.openstack.org/16482800:36
xgermanyeah, happened all in that channel00:37
johnsomOur new potential problem: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088739.html00:37
xgermanso there should be an eavesdrop00:37
doug-fishcool00:37
johnsomI don't think we need requirements changes, but I guess the other stuff we are grouped into does00:37
xgermanit’s only over when it’s over00:38
xgermanI also asked for the FFE for the panels but I have trouble making sense of the master document: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28641300:39
doug-fishwill there be a client patch as well?00:39
johnsomYes, there is a cli update up for review00:39
johnsomdougwig Thoughts on this? http://logs.openstack.org/97/288797/10/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-api-namespace-nv/550ae5a/logs/screen-q-lbaasv2.txt.gz#_2016-03-08_17_32_41_138  I can't reproduce this local00:40
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dougwigjohnsom: looks like rootwrap isn't setup correctly00:55
johnsomYeah, that was my thought too, but all signs in the other logs/archive point to it being fine00:55
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dougwigjohnsom: i'm on pto today, but can peek further tomorrow.00:57
johnsomdougwig Ok, thanks!  A bit stumped00:57
openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/octavia: WIP----Replace the os.open method with safer way  https://review.openstack.org/28820801:00
minwang2dougwig can you take a look at this back port patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285596/01:08
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openstackgerritFranklin Naval proposed openstack/octavia: Octavia: Basic LoadBalancer Scenario Test  https://review.openstack.org/17219901:22
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Remove an unused configuration option  https://review.openstack.org/29022001:26
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Remove an unused configuration option  https://review.openstack.org/29022001:28
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johnsomsbalukoff We ended up with a different setting for that path, so you can still set it.  Just a dup unused config entry01:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Remove an unused configuration option  https://review.openstack.org/29022004:00
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Add RAX support in DIB  https://review.openstack.org/29026504:05
armaxjohnsom, blogan: ping04:05
johnsom_Pong04:05
rm_workpoing04:06
johnsom_armax What is up?04:07
armaxwas wondering the latest about https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++topic:bug/152178304:08
armaxjohnsom_: the cascade delete04:08
armaxin plain english04:08
johnsom_I think we are waiting for your blessing04:08
johnsom_Hoping we don't have to revert the horizon work04:08
armaxjohnsom_: ok, so we settled for the API approach? I recall cli and server were not in sync at one point04:09
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johnsom_Yes, I was waiting on the CLI until a decision was made on the API path, but I updated that yesterday04:10
armaxjohnsom_: I’ll keep you posted as soon as I learn if I we’re ok releasing a new client04:10
armaxjohnsom_: akc04:11
armaxack, thanks04:11
johnsom_armax Sounds good, thanks!04:11
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johnsom_armax FYI, it looks like the commit message got messed up on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288187/ So, please reapply the -204:16
johnsom_nevermind, it pulled forward04:16
bloganarmax: what johnsom said :)04:17
armaxjohnsom_: most certainly, I love -2’s04:17
armaxthough -2 are sticky04:18
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armaxjohnsom_: so what do you mean?04:18
johnsom_Yeah, I forgot04:18
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openstackgerritBharath M proposed openstack/octavia: Add CA Cert file config option to validate against SSL endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/28832406:02
bharathm^^ Ready for review.. Tested the keystone and CA validation is working06:05
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed openstack/octavia: Fix session_persistence deletion bug  https://review.openstack.org/28711809:27
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openstackgerritBharath M proposed openstack/octavia: Fix LB and Listener admin_state Update  https://review.openstack.org/29040811:22
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed openstack/octavia: Add unit tests for L7 data model additions  https://review.openstack.org/29044412:24
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed openstack/octavia: Add unit tests for L7 data model additions  https://review.openstack.org/29044412:29
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Tag the alembic migration revisions for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/28821412:43
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed openstack/octavia: Add unit tests for L7 data model additions  https://review.openstack.org/29044412:47
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed openstack/octavia: Add unit tests for L7 data model additions  https://review.openstack.org/29044413:04
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openstackgerritMartin Banszel proposed openstack/octavia: Don't let the dhclient to change the host's default route.  https://review.openstack.org/29052714:27
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neelashahdougwig: ping15:22
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openstackgerritKobi Samoray proposed openstack/octavia: [WIP] Implement custom header support for Octavia  https://review.openstack.org/25790116:09
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openstackgerritJustin Pomeroy proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Add action for updating pool member weight  https://review.openstack.org/28800416:51
openstackgerritJustin Pomeroy proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Reload route after performing actions  https://review.openstack.org/28968616:52
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openstackgerritLucas Palm proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Add the Angular LBaaS V2 'Update Member List' Table Action  https://review.openstack.org/29069217:04
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openstackgerritLucas Palm proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Add the Angular LBaaS V2 'Update Member List' Table Action  https://review.openstack.org/29069217:07
openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Fix gate scripts to use script dir for sourcing commons  https://review.openstack.org/29003717:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Fix model vs migration mismatches for L7 rules and policies  https://review.openstack.org/28701417:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Fix model vs migration mismatches in nsxv tables  https://review.openstack.org/28701517:23
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dougwigxgerman: doug-fish: ping, let's talk lbaas horizon release schedule.17:56
dougwigtwo ways we can go here: ask for an FFE for mitaka, or change the governance on that repo to be release:independent and just put it on pypi when you're ready.17:57
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dougwigxgerman: doug-fish: patch for that is now here: https://review.openstack.org/29073518:05
doug-fishdougwig: here now18:06
doug-fishMy first inclination is to seek FFE, what do you think?18:06
doug-fishI had always intended the dashboard to be on the release cycle, particularly because its going to be tightly coupled with a release of Horizon18:06
dougwigdoug-fish: making it independent does not mean it is forever that way; it just means we can release it as needed until it's solid in the next few months, and then move it back to managed. i'd personally prefer that to rushing. opinions?18:08
doug-fishyes, I can see the merit of that18:09
* doug-fish thinking18:09
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doug-fishI'm not strictly opposed to rushing; I think deadlines sometimes help stuff actually get completed and out the door. I'm concerned w/o a schedule code changes might just trickle on forever18:12
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doug-fishTo my thinking the current state of things is that all of the needed patches are written for a minimum usable UI18:13
dougwigdoug-fish: either way, we still have the *packagers* deadlines for mitaka, so you still have that stick.18:13
doug-fishthough several still need to be reviewed18:13
doug-fishI don't know how to understand packagers deadlines if they are separate from our integrated release schedule18:14
doug-fishI thought pursuing a FFE was the way to have that discussion18:14
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ajmillerdougwig doug-fish:  xgerman isn't feeling well today and was going to be offline for a while.18:16
doug-fishsorry to hear it.18:16
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ajmillerRegarding dashboard schedule, I'm willing to help as best I can with reviewing, whatever the decision.  Subject to internal business interrupts....18:17
openstackgerritBharath M proposed openstack/octavia: Add CA Cert file config option to validate against SSL endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/28832418:17
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doug-fishajmiller: I think the UI minimally needs only patches up to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289453/ to be viable, though getting health monitor editing would be nice as well. What do you think?18:19
dougwigajmiller: doug-fish: xgerman: in my mind the deadline is the same either way, it's whether the ultimate release has to go through the openstack release managers or the stadium folks handle it in the short-term. i know many that really really want a v2 ui.18:19
doug-fishI've already been asked about using the UI with liberty Horizon. (That's a non option)18:19
ajmillerdoug-fish: I generally agree -- HM editing would be nice but not strictly necessary for initial viable release18:20
doug-fishdougwig: what are the latest viable deadlines to reach a integrated release schedule with FFE?18:21
dougwigdoug-fish: mostly we'd need armax to be on board with an FFE, and for that, it'd need to have been pretty well baked and in gerrit by the code freeze date.18:21
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doug-fishdougwig: does code freeze mean RC1?18:24
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armaxdougwig: what ffe are you talking about?18:24
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dougwigneutron-lbaas-dashboard, horizon panels for lbaas v2.18:25
dougwigdoug-fish was asking questions about both potential release models18:25
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doug-fisharmax: I have a general preference that the UI be on the integrated release model, but we are a step behind (the UI is not yet complete)18:26
neelashahdougwig: even though the neutron lbaas dashboard is a plug in does it follow the same release schedule as the rest of openstack?18:26
armaxdoug-fish: the release model can be revised later on18:26
doug-fishsure18:27
doug-fishstill, I'd like the lbaas v2 UI to be readily available in Mitaka18:27
armaxthe horizon dashboard was not included in the list of the release deliverables that mestery has been putting together18:28
doug-fishI'm afraid if we don't stick to the integrated release schedule it's not going to be consumable by packers and may get ignored or at least be harder to find18:28
armaxdoug-fish: you should have come up with this request sooner18:28
armaxdoug-fish: tough luck18:28
mesteryarmax: It's true18:28
armaxtoo bad this wasn’t spotted sooner18:29
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armaxmestery: I assume it’s too late to revise the list of deliverables?18:29
doug-fishso my next goal is to meet the dates that an FFE would have given so that the dashbaord can be consumed by packagers anyway, despite that decision18:29
doug-fishwhat dates normally go around a FFE?18:30
mesteryarmax: Well, I would guess so, we could talk to dhellman and see18:30
mesteryIf it's not too much work, we could do it18:30
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neelashahmestery armax - is there no ffe process?18:30
dougwigarmax, mestery: i could've sworn it had a mitaka blueprint, actually.18:30
neelashahI know other projects allow for ffe , which is past the freeze dates18:31
armaxmestery: frankly I’d rather nag dhellman for something more urgent, like hell breaking lose18:31
mesteryarmax: I agree18:31
mesteryCan't this be released on it's own?18:31
mesteryWhat am I missing dougwig ?18:31
armaxif we had this released milestones throughout the release then I’d be happy to talk about FFE18:32
armaxbut it looks like the dashboard deliverable fell through the cracks18:32
dougwigmestery: i agree on going independent, and bugging the packagers separately.  see my review above. just exploring options, and the ffe options looks grim.  this is my bad; i didn't flag this earlier, because i thought this repo was already release:independent.18:33
armaxdougwig: is lbaas-dasbboard even set up to deal with releasenotes?18:33
mesterydougwig: I hear you, and your plan of going independent seems reasonable18:33
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doug-fisham I reading correctly that octavia is release independent?18:50
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johnsomYes, octavia is release independent18:55
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sbalukoffFor the time being, anyway.18:59
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madhu_ak_fnaval, johnsom, https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/155531619:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1555316 in octavia "loadbalancer status is stuck in PENDING_UPDATE for about 50-55 mins after creating listener with TLS no SNI" [Undecided,New]19:58
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fnavalthanks for the bug madhu_ak - i'll try to reproduce on my end when i get a chance19:58
neelashahjohnsom: hi19:58
johnsomneelashah Hi19:58
johnsomOctavia meeting starting soon on #openstack-meeting-alt19:59
neelashahdoes this patch require you to have authority to release the neutron-lbaas-dashboard plugin? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290735/119:59
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johnsomThat is a bit odd.  I will chat after the Octavia meeting, or bring it up during the meeting20:00
neelashahok, thanks johnsom20:00
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nmagnezijohnsom, please let me know when it's the open discussion part. I have question about the amphora agent20:21
bharathmnmagnezi: it's open discussion now20:22
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openstackgerritLucas Palm proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Add the Angular LBaaS V2 'Update Member List' Table Action  https://review.openstack.org/29069220:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Add model sync test  https://review.openstack.org/28701620:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Tag the alembic migration revisions for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/28821420:51
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rm_worksbalukoff: i reviewed most of those20:59
sbalukoffrm_work: Great!20:59
rm_workall +A pretty much20:59
rm_worki had a question on your SSH review20:59
rm_workbut couldn't even make myself -120:59
johnsomneelashah1 Let me know your plans/timing.  I will work through the steps needed to cut a release.20:59
rm_workbecause i'm pretty sure it'd just flip to a +221:00
neelashah1johnsom: quick question - I saw in the meeting the RC1 is this week, how much time do we have?21:00
johnsomneelashah1 Do you expect to publish to pypi?21:00
sbalukoffrm_work: Ok, I'll have a look.21:00
johnsomneelashah1 If you want it packaged, I think it all has to be in by Friday.  dougwig?21:01
rm_workwell i got the ones that had +2s already21:01
neelashah1johnsom: I am checking into if other plugins are in pypi…gimme a few mins21:01
rm_worklooking at the others nowish21:01
johnsomneelashah1 Otherwise, if we just want to post to pypi we can make that call.21:01
neelashah1johnsom: friday should be doable for us…21:02
neelashah1johnsom: friday US timezone?21:02
sbalukoffrm_work: responded to your comments21:03
johnsomYes, it will be sometime friday US time, so you will want to be ready before that.  Have you notified the packagers?21:03
neelashah1johnsom: ummm….no, didnt know I was supposed to do that (this all just came out today)21:04
rm_worksbalukoff: yeah the [s]shd thing is just a shortcut21:05
rm_workbash parsing trick21:05
openstackgerritJustin Pomeroy proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Add the Angular LBaaS V2 'Update Member List' Table Action  https://review.openstack.org/29069221:05
sbalukoffYep.21:05
neelashah1johnsom: wouldnt it be the same as what you do for octavia?21:05
johnsomneelashah1 Yes, but octavia has released before.  This will be a new package.21:06
rm_workit feels weird the number of +2s i've been giving recently, are you guys just REALLY good at writing good code, or am I getting complacent? >_>21:07
openstackgerritMadhusudhan Kandadai proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: [WIP] Neutron LBaaS: TLS Barbican Scenario Test  https://review.openstack.org/16482821:07
neelashah1johnsom: ah I see…I am not familiar with the release process so was not aware of this. Who are the packagers and what info would they need?21:07
sbalukoffrm_work: I'd like to think I'm getting better at writing code. :) At the same time, there have been a lot of small, relatively simple bug-fixes lately.21:08
johnsomneelashah1 They are the folks that package and distribute OpenStack components, like RedHat, etc.21:08
neelashah1johnsom: normally, we contribute code and the ptl takes care of "releasing" it21:08
johnsomneelashah1 Yeah, well, I guess I am soon to be that person... grin21:08
TrevorVsbalukoff you killin me bro21:08
sbalukoffTrevorV: I am?21:09
johnsomneelashah1 Let me know when you think you are close to wanting to do a release.  Then we can coordinate the process from there.  I will do some prep work.  Let me know about the pypi package.21:10
neelashah1johnsom: ok, sounds good…will keep you updated, thanks21:11
TrevorVsbalukoff in my efforts to add the single-create in Neutron LBaaS I've integrated L7 to that, and in some places you have "l7_policies" and in others you have "l7policies"21:12
sbalukoffTrevorV: I do? Where?21:12
TrevorVThe models...21:12
TrevorVDatamodel has l7policies21:12
TrevorVsql alchemy model has l7_policies21:12
TrevorVon the listener21:12
sbalukoffTrevorV: Dammit, seriously?21:13
TrevorVHold on21:13
TrevorVI might have done that miself with a bad "replace"21:13
sbalukoffYeah, I'm not seeing that in octavia/db/models.py21:13
sbalukoffAlso: neutron-lbaas does have l7_policies.21:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Add CA Cert file config option to validate against SSL endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/28832421:14
sbalukoffBecause that's the way Evgeny wrote it.21:14
TrevorVYeah, that was my bad.21:14
TrevorVBut why not "l7_rules"?21:14
sbalukoffTrevorV: Er... where did I put l7_rules?21:14
sbalukoffOr didn't I?21:15
TrevorVYou didn't on the listener21:15
TrevorVSorry policy21:15
TrevorVConfused myself for a second21:15
sbalukoffUmmm....21:15
sbalukoffSo the reason "why not l7_rules" is the same reason I don't have "l7_policies"21:15
sbalukoffAgain, neutron-lbaas does things slightly differently. And again, this is because it was written by someone else.21:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Adds release notes for Active/Standby  https://review.openstack.org/28862021:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Add maximum number of l7rules per l7policy  https://review.openstack.org/28516021:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Add missing unit tests for L7Rule API  https://review.openstack.org/28958021:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Add unit tests for L7Policy API  https://review.openstack.org/28961221:19
sbalukoffBoom!21:19
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johnsomsbalukoff Sorry to probably ask this again, but is this ready for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287118/ Or are we still waiting on a cleanup for to note use "None"21:26
johnsoms/note/not/21:26
sbalukoffjohnsom: Yes, it as well as the neutron-lbaas bugfix that is similar should both be ready for review.21:27
johnsomOk, cool21:27
sbalukoffjohnsom: On that one, please see the commit message for an explanation of why it works the way it does. :)21:28
johnsomYeah, I just wasn't sure where we were at because we had talked about changes, etc.  Sorry I lost track, just wanted to make sure.21:29
sbalukoffNo worries. A lot has happened in the last couple weeks.21:30
johnsomNo kidding21:30
johnsomsbalukoff On the fence with the ssh thing.  It just seems fragile.  I think the right way is some cloud.cfg magic with our config drive, but their docs aren't so great so it would take some time to figure out.21:44
sbalukoffjohnsom: Maybe if we do it with cloud.cfg then we eliminate this re-bind ssh hack? Mostly, I just wanted to get something working so that dude from PNNL could do his load-balancing of SSH using Octavia sooner rather than later.21:45
sbalukoff(Because I see that being a show-stopper for him, and therefore something which means LBaaSv1 doesn't die as quickly.)21:45
johnsomYeah, I hear you.  The namespace thing is also probably the "right" solution.21:45
sbalukoffSo getting that into Mitaka was my motivation there.21:45
sbalukoffAgreed.21:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Replace deprecated LOG.warn with LOG.warning  https://review.openstack.org/26361721:52
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johnsommestery dougwig Can you check that I setup neutron-lbaas-dashboard for release correctly: https://review.openstack.org/29087822:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Make SSH bind to management net only  https://review.openstack.org/28832322:26
openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/octavia: WIP----Replace the os.open method with safer way  https://review.openstack.org/28820822:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Add pool delete action  https://review.openstack.org/28745922:44
openstackgerritJustin Pomeroy proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Add trailing slash to all URLs calling the REST API  https://review.openstack.org/29089522:52
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openstackgerritJustin Pomeroy proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Reload route after performing actions  https://review.openstack.org/28968622:57
openstackgerritJustin Pomeroy proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Add the Angular LBaaS V2 'Update Member List' Table Action  https://review.openstack.org/29069223:01
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