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| johnsom | http://15.126.222.115/OctaviaWorkshop.tar.bz2 | 00:52 |
| johnsom | rm_you ^^^^ | 00:52 |
| johnsom | That is the updated image. | 00:52 |
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| xgerman | Hooray! | 01:19 |
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| pc-pothole | johnsom: For the bypass listener patch am I missing something to make this work? Im getting error regarding unexpected keyword, and following the code path it looks like its not used where it was intended. I'm assuming im missing something but not sure what/where | 01:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: neutron lbaas should add timestamp field https://review.openstack.org/220804 | 01:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/237298 | 02:41 |
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| johnsom | pc-pothole No, looking back at that, it is a mess. I'm not sure what happened there other that I was juggling too much. | 02:52 |
| johnsom | Double demerits for the reviewers | 02:52 |
| pc-pothole | >< | 02:56 |
| blogan_ | can i get a link to that review? | 02:56 |
| blogan_ | and should we revert it if its too much to fix immediately | 02:57 |
| pc-pothole | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237707/2 | 02:57 |
| blogan_ | thanks | 02:57 |
| blogan_ | so i finally got the neutron-lbaas-dashboard running | 02:58 |
| blogan_ | and it doesn't work | 02:58 |
| blogan_ | and pretty far off | 02:58 |
| blogan_ | hmm i dont see why that review would fail | 03:00 |
| blogan_ | then again i dont see the point of it unless its going to be used in the future | 03:00 |
| blogan_ | oh now i see | 03:01 |
| xgerman | yeah, people said it would work but I never tried myself... | 03:02 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: trust no one! | 03:02 |
| xgerman | well, the day only has 24 hours so I need to :-( | 03:02 |
| blogan_ | first i've seen this review | 03:02 |
| xgerman | well, first I am checking johnsom’s image | 03:03 |
| blogan_ | i can probably get a patch up to fix this, quickly | 03:04 |
| blogan_ | though was the intent for this to be on the amp agent side or the driver side only? or both? | 03:04 |
| xgerman | both | 03:04 |
| xgerman | johnsom didn’t like my patch and wanted to add a new parameter to bypass the check if the listener exists | 03:05 |
| blogan_ | so if its a new listener, do the check, if its existing dont do the check | 03:06 |
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| xgerman | no, just the other way around | 03:07 |
| xgerman | new listener no check; existing listener check | 03:07 |
| blogan_ | ah | 03:07 |
| xgerman | yeah, if you upload cert for a new listener that one won’t be there and then boom | 03:10 |
| xgerman | and if you upload the config of an ssl listener but no cert the syntax check will fail because no cert | 03:11 |
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| blogan_ | xgerman: teh syntax check for haproxy? | 03:14 |
| xgerman | yep | 03:14 |
| xgerman | so order is important - first the certs, then the harpy.cfg | 03:15 |
| * xgerman unpacking that image takes forver | 03:15 | |
| blogan_ | okay so, i don't think the amp agent api needs the listener check then | 03:18 |
| blogan_ | it should be able to find out if its a new listener in the upload cert if the listener doesn't currently exist | 03:18 |
| xgerman | well, the amp basically checks if the listener config file exists — so even if the listener is supposed to be there and somebody removes the file … anyway, my patch just removed the check but johnsom didn’t like it :-) | 03:21 |
| xgerman | but there probably is some error condition where we loose the file and the amp lacks context | 03:22 |
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| blogan_ | well i feel like the amp agent should know how to handle the check, and the driver shouldn't really care, so if the amp agent handles it gracefully the driver doesn't need to know that the listener config shouldn't be checked | 03:24 |
| xgerman | so back to my first patch removing the check altogether ;-) | 03:25 |
| blogan_ | no, im only doing the check if the listenr exists | 03:26 |
| xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/237282 | 03:26 |
| xgerman | oh, ok | 03:26 |
| blogan_ | lol now that i think about it | 03:27 |
| blogan_ | im checking it exists, and if true i check that it exists | 03:27 |
| blogan_ | thats funny | 03:27 |
| blogan_ | and quite useless | 03:27 |
| xgerman | yeah, I think we are back to my original patch ;) | 03:27 |
| xgerman | only the driver knows which flow it’s in... | 03:28 |
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| blogan_ | so checking that the listener exists on an upload certificate is only helpful on an update of a listener correct? since we can't do it on a new listener | 03:29 |
| xgerman | but I think we are splitting hairs... | 03:29 |
| xgerman | yep | 03:29 |
| blogan_ | and the only way for the agent to know if its an update vs a create, is if it checks that the listener exists | 03:30 |
| xgerman | yep | 03:31 |
| blogan_ | so yeah i guess im leaning towards no check | 03:31 |
| xgerman | unless you want to add that logic to the driver | 03:31 |
| blogan_ | bc i still don't think the driver shoudl know how the amp agent is implemented | 03:31 |
| xgerman | yeah... | 03:33 |
| blogan_ | maybe johnsom has some counter arguments to this | 03:33 |
| blogan_ | but i'm sure he's quite frustrated with building the usb stuffs | 03:33 |
| xgerman | yep - I want to wait for his opinion + if he doesn’t he can back his patch out ;-) | 03:34 |
| blogan_ | well we'd still want yours in right? | 03:34 |
| xgerman | only if we just want to remove the check | 03:34 |
| xgerman | I abandoned my patch after he said he could do better ;-) | 03:35 |
| blogan_ | well i think ill back that review out now, bc it is breaking some stuff, and we can decide on a real fix later | 03:35 |
| blogan_ | hell its probably breaking gate jobs | 03:35 |
| blogan_ | nope | 03:35 |
| blogan_ | nvm | 03:36 |
| blogan_ | those dont' use the rest driver | 03:36 |
| blogan_ | score! by using the noop drivers we prevented breaking the gate | 03:36 |
| xgerman | lol | 03:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/octavia: Revert "Bypass listener check on cert deploy during create" https://review.openstack.org/238759 | 03:36 |
| xgerman | blogan_ we shouldn’t be proud that our gate jobs are not finding bugs | 03:37 |
| xgerman | if we are we can just make them print hello world | 03:37 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: lol i know, it was more sarcasm that it prevented something that shouldn't have happened in the first place | 03:37 |
| xgerman | glad we are on the sam page ;-) | 03:37 |
| blogan_ | well the scenario tests should be failing | 03:38 |
| blogan_ | bc those do use the rest driver | 03:38 |
| xgerman | but we don’t test SSL (yet) | 03:39 |
| xgerman | also the image does work on my Fusion (version 7) | 03:39 |
| blogan_ | oh good point, i forgot it wasn't on the upload_config method in the driver, just on the certificate | 03:40 |
| blogan_ | the kwarg | 03:40 |
| xgerman | image does NOT work | 03:43 |
| blogan_ | that was a critical word | 03:43 |
| xgerman | yep | 03:44 |
| blogan_ | in what way does it not work? | 03:44 |
| xgerman | click run get error: | 03:44 |
| xgerman | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ecN8hDYV/ | 03:44 |
| blogan_ | oh well can't help out on tha tone | 03:45 |
| xgerman | yeah, will let it rest until johnsom comes back in... | 03:45 |
| xgerman | break.. | 03:46 |
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| rm_work | yeah i am super dubious about resuming on a different VMWare host | 05:22 |
| rm_work | we really need to set it up so everything will work from a fresh boot just by running rejoin-stack.sh | 05:22 |
| rm_work | which actually should be pretty doable | 05:22 |
| rm_work | well, that and starting the two nova vms | 05:22 |
| rm_work | but that's easy too | 05:23 |
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| rm_work | pulling it down and will see, i may try to go to sleep and look at this tomorrow, it'll be an hour to just download | 05:25 |
| rm_work | and yeah i am afraid this isn't going to work well | 05:25 |
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| rm_work | as it's going to take like ... i don't even know how long to decompress off a cheap USB2 drive, lol | 05:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Phillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Updates for containers functionality https://review.openstack.org/199954 | 06:06 |
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| blogan_ | rm_work, rm_you: ping | 06:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/octavia: Optimize Taskflow storage (requires parameter) https://review.openstack.org/220205 | 12:06 |
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| manjeets | if the state of loadbalancer is pending-create I am neither able to delete it nor I am able to create a listener ? | 15:37 |
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| blogan | manjeets: that is correct | 15:57 |
| blogan | xgerman, johnsom: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238759 | 15:58 |
| blogan | jorgem: ping | 15:59 |
| xgerman | you keep that guy around? Is he the new Krishna? | 16:00 |
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| blogan | he's krishna 2.0 | 16:00 |
| xgerman | well, we have a slot at a FWaaS talk for him if he makes it to Tkyo ;-) | 16:00 |
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| manjeets | blogan: for allowing lowercase protocol values for listener should I change in neutron_lbaas becuase api only accepts uppercase ? | 16:05 |
| manjeets | i added a patch to convert it into upper in neutron client | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia: Revert "Bypass listener check on cert deploy during create" https://review.openstack.org/238759 | 16:06 |
| manjeets | adding in a client will not effect any tests other wise may have to change create listener tests ? | 16:07 |
| xgerman | blogan rm_work looks like we need to re-spin the Octavia Lab image | 16:13 |
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| blogan | manjeets: do you know if the security groups api code is case insensitive? not the client, but the api code itself | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Phillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Adding new network driver for containers https://review.openstack.org/197858 | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Phillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Updates for containers functionality https://review.openstack.org/199954 | 16:26 |
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| manjeets | blogan: i need to check I think they have logic for converting everything into lowercase in api itself they don't do anything in client. i'll double check | 16:46 |
| johnsom | Ok, so there is one cpu checkbox enabled that I guess the Macs can't handle. Re-spinning the image now | 16:49 |
| johnsom | It is the cpu counter setting. Unfortunately you can't flip that switch on a suspended VM. | 16:53 |
| johnsom | So, I will respin this. I think I can get the disk size down too | 16:54 |
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| ptoohill | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237421/ | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/237298 | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/239028 | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | min wang proposed openstack/octavia: Add cert tracking and rotating in Housekeeping https://review.openstack.org/215359 | 17:58 |
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| manjeets | is member and listener protocol separate from each other ? | 18:11 |
| manjeets | can i have listener with protocol tcp that has a pool whose member is having http 80 protocol? | 18:12 |
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| manjeets | how pool's protocol is different from listener's protocol | 19:42 |
| manjeets | ? | 19:42 |
| blogan | manjeets: thats something that has been debated, the only thing right now is if you do ssl termination, the listener's would be HTTPS and the pool woudl be HTTP | 19:45 |
| blogan | well TERMINATED_HTTPS for the listener | 19:45 |
| manjeets | blogan: in all othercases will they be same ? | 19:54 |
| blogan | manjeets: if i recall correctly, yes | 19:55 |
| manjeets | I was creating loadbalancer and litener and pool to learn architecture then do we really need to specify protocol all the times for pool and listener ? | 19:56 |
| blogan | rm_work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238484 | 19:58 |
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| johnsom | About an hour from having a new image available that doesn't have that CPU counter feature enabled. | 21:41 |
| johnsom | It's 28% uploaded | 21:41 |
| blogan | johnsom: the slides for the beyond talk will probably need to be completed after we all get tehre, not sure where franklin is and i'm currently fixing up the dashboard a bit | 21:45 |
| johnsom | Ugh, I hate last minute changes. | 21:46 |
| johnsom | blogan You get the slide of shame! grin | 21:46 |
| johnsom | Ok, well, I'm going to cut them from google drive at noon tomorrow, so you still have some time | 21:47 |
| blogan | johnsom: well it woudln't be last minute, i assume ill be done by monday | 21:47 |
| xgerman | blogan is that dashboard actually working? | 21:47 |
| johnsom | noon pacific... grin | 21:48 |
| blogan | johnsom: ill be on plane tomorrow at noon, so thats probably when ill have all the time in teh world to do | 21:48 |
| blogan | xgerman: nope, but i'm trying to remedy that | 21:48 |
| johnsom | blogan Cool, I like the prospects of merging vs. creating like last year | 21:48 |
| xgerman | well, so this is as much vaporware as the designs | 21:48 |
| xgerman | :-) | 21:48 |
| blogan | xgerman: true but if i have a video demo...thats another story | 21:49 |
| johnsom | Wait, that was this year, ugh. | 21:49 |
| blogan | johnsom: merging vs creating? waht do you mean, we merge our slides together? | 21:49 |
| johnsom | blogan BTW, if you have video, mp4 please | 21:49 |
| blogan | johnsom: will do | 21:49 |
| johnsom | Yeah, merge yours in | 21:49 |
| blogan | johnsom: no promises though, if i can't get it working at all i just wont eeven show any images, i think we have a ton of slides as is anyway | 21:49 |
| xgerman | well, we shouldn’t prominently display some dashboard which goes against the way we designed LBaaS V2 | 21:49 |
| blogan | xgerman: thast the point, im making it in line with how we designed it | 21:50 |
| xgerman | but I am not on stage so can boo that ;-) | 21:50 |
| johnsom | xgerman your name is still on the talk so it is fair game to pull you on stage | 21:50 |
| blogan | hmmm | 21:50 |
| blogan | it is isn't it | 21:51 |
| blogan | i can push him up in my place | 21:51 |
| johnsom | Ha, I was thinking if he starts heckling | 21:51 |
| blogan | well since we know he will heckle, he just guaranteed it | 21:51 |
| xgerman | well, so I better get some screenshot from invasion read to show the future ;-) | 21:51 |
| blogan | we'll have to pre-empt him and push him on stage | 21:52 |
| blogan | xgerman: what? | 21:52 |
| xgerman | invision | 21:52 |
| xgerman | the mock-ups | 21:52 |
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| xgerman | I spent too many hours getting them to my liking | 21:52 |
| xgerman | they even support flavor!! | 21:52 |
| blogan | well if i cant get a video working | 21:53 |
| blogan | oh yeah someone put a flavor framework slide in the slides, i have no idea what to talk about on that piece | 21:53 |
| xgerman | maybe I need to be on stage after all | 21:54 |
| blogan | i can just give a very basic rundown, but i dont know the details that much | 21:55 |
| johnsom | blogan Yeah, I will throw a couple bullets in there | 21:55 |
| xgerman | so jwarendt didn’t deliver | 21:56 |
| xgerman | ? | 21:56 |
| johnsom | He sent me gerrit numbers | 21:56 |
| blogan | i commented on franklin's slides that no one in this audience is really going to care abotu seenig screen shots of code | 21:57 |
| johnsom | I like that one of his screenshots is "skip_checks" | 21:57 |
| blogan | lol | 21:57 |
| blogan | self.assertTrue(True) | 21:58 |
| blogan | that should be a slide title | 21:58 |
| xgerman | I see lot’s of heckling ;-) | 21:58 |
| johnsom | There is a surprising amount of code in the skip_checks method | 21:58 |
| blogan | thats rooted in tempest | 21:59 |
| johnsom | I think the DDT stuff is cool | 21:59 |
| johnsom | I.e. how the heck do you test this beast | 21:59 |
| blogan | yeah cool to talk about, but showing the code, i think people's eyes will just glaze over | 22:01 |
| johnsom | The minute we walk on stage their eyes glaze over | 22:01 |
| blogan | lol true | 22:01 |
| blogan | the minute i start talking actually | 22:01 |
| johnsom | We will have to have an agenda slide so people see that there is an awesome demo at the end so they stay..... grin | 22:02 |
| blogan | bc they're like is this guy even speaking a language? | 22:02 |
| blogan | so slide 12, that demo is no longer there right? | 22:02 |
| johnsom | Nope | 22:02 |
| johnsom | I don't have vendor videos this time | 22:02 |
| blogan | sbalukoff1, sbalukoff: you dont plan on having a demo in yoru section do you? | 22:03 |
| sbalukoff | Nope | 22:03 |
| johnsom | demo v1? I hope not | 22:03 |
| blogan | thats a v2 demo | 22:03 |
| blogan | and if one is ebing done at the end | 22:03 |
| sbalukoff | We don't want to show people how to use the old nasty shit. ;) | 22:03 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: so remove that slide then | 22:05 |
| blogan | its your section | 22:05 |
| sbalukoff | Wait, what? | 22:05 |
| johnsom | blogan sbalukoff is only talking to v1 | 22:05 |
| johnsom | V2 is your section blogan | 22:05 |
| blogan | wait waht | 22:05 |
| blogan | i thought i was just doing liberty and plans after | 22:06 |
| blogan | alright | 22:06 |
| johnsom | well, liberty basically was v2, so..... | 22:06 |
| johnsom | Just flatten it | 22:06 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: would you want to do those slides up until the liberty piece? | 22:06 |
| blogan | not really tls was in kilo | 22:07 |
| blogan | experimental though | 22:07 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan: Er... I have two slides on v1. Is there a problem with them? | 22:07 |
| johnsom | slide 9, 10, and 11 are abandoned at the moment | 22:07 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: no problem with them, just trying to weasel out of talking so much | 22:08 |
| sbalukoff | Aah! Ok. Yeah, I can talk about them if you'd like. | 22:08 |
| sbalukoff | Or we can tag-team it, or something. | 22:08 |
| johnsom | Or we can nuke them | 22:08 |
| johnsom | They are from Vancouver | 22:08 |
| blogan | well i think the tls piece is good for an intro into why v1 wasn't working | 22:08 |
| sbalukoff | I think the contrast is actually good. | 22:08 |
| sbalukoff | And it does follow on pretty closely to my rant about how much v1 sucks. :) | 22:09 |
| blogan | and hopefully this is the last talk that contains anything about v1, other than v1 going away | 22:09 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: +1000 | 22:09 |
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| blogan | sbalukoff: okay so currently you're donig up to slide 11, i start on 12 | 22:10 |
| blogan | johnsom you start on 28 | 22:10 |
| blogan | octavia | 22:10 |
| sbalukoff | Sounds good. | 22:10 |
| blogan | just making sure i'm on the right page, since i wasnt | 22:11 |
| sbalukoff | I'm gonna swap out the picture for LBaaS v2 then. :) | 22:11 |
| blogan | go ahead | 22:11 |
| blogan | put a jackalope instead | 22:11 |
| blogan | cthulu | 22:11 |
| blogan | or | 22:11 |
| sbalukoff | Naw-- I'm going to show the new Tacoma Narrows bridge. | 22:11 |
| sbalukoff | Instead of the broken one in front of LBaaS v1 | 22:12 |
| johnsom | Yep, I have 28 on | 22:12 |
| blogan | ah nice | 22:12 |
| sbalukoff | (This also plays into the Octavia slide being prefaced by a modern bridge.) | 22:12 |
| sbalukoff | Not that load balancers are bridges. But the parallelism / analogy is nice, in my mind. :) | 22:12 |
| blogan | and the picture i have of a mountain does not fit into the theme, but it fits in with the slide title | 22:12 |
| johnsom | It's a Tokyo bridge | 22:13 |
| sbalukoff | Who is making a local copy of the slide deck and when are you cutting that copy? | 22:13 |
| blogan | johnsom is | 22:13 |
| blogan | and i just told him i wouldn't be done until monday | 22:13 |
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| sbalukoff | (ie. how much time do I have to make any edits to slides, since I'm now covering more than I planned.) | 22:13 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 22:13 |
| johnsom | I am cutting the copy to clean up tomorrow at noon pacific | 22:13 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Ok. Cool. Any additional edits I make will be done then. | 22:13 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Excellent! | 22:14 |
| johnsom | Unlike that other slacker | 22:14 |
| * blogan looks at xgerman | 22:14 | |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 22:14 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, darn that xgerman. | 22:14 |
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| xgerman | mmh, not slacking at all ;-) | 22:16 |
| * blogan looks at his feet | 22:17 | |
| blogan | xgerman: i may have screwed up that invision mock ups | 22:21 |
| xgerman | :-( | 22:22 |
| blogan | xgerman: i clicked a button to try to download them, and i don't think it was ad ownload button | 22:22 |
| blogan | it wasn't delete though! | 22:22 |
| blogan | it was archive i guess | 22:22 |
| blogan | https://openstack.invisionapp.com/d/main/#/projects/4716314 | 22:22 |
| blogan | there they are | 22:22 |
| blogan | archived screen | 22:22 |
| blogan | s | 22:22 |
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| blogan | lol well i've totally unorganized those | 22:23 |
| blogan | thats what happens when i mess with shiny new things | 22:23 |
| xgerman | that’s why you only get text terminals | 22:24 |
| blogan | indeed | 22:24 |
| xgerman | anyway, I see them at https://openstack.invisionapp.com/d/main/#/projects/4716314 | 22:24 |
| blogan | yeah i just unarchived them but they're no longer organized | 22:24 |
| xgerman | mmh, maybe we can get Piet in Tokyo to fix it | 22:25 |
| blogan | and slap me around | 22:25 |
| xgerman | johnsom and I can take care of the slapping... | 22:25 |
| blogan | can i download all of these by teh share link? | 22:25 |
| xgerman | not sure how that app worksa | 22:26 |
| blogan | apparently neither do i | 22:26 |
| xgerman | well, just pick the ones you like and download those? | 22:27 |
| xgerman | maybe browser save as? | 22:27 |
| blogan | you dont have a vip subnet field in the load balancer details | 22:28 |
| johnsom | blogan I nuked the flavors slide and folded it into the "More Plans" slide. Edit as you see fit | 22:29 |
| blogan | johnsom: okay, thanks | 22:29 |
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| xgerman | well, I am still hoping our flavor man will produce a nice slide | 22:54 |
| johnsom | http://15.126.222.115/OctaviaWorkshop.tar.bz2 | 22:56 |
| johnsom | New image with CPU counters disabled. That should solve the Mac issue | 22:56 |
| johnsom | It is also a bit smaller than the last one | 22:56 |
| xgerman | will try later... | 23:16 |
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| sbalukoff | Downloading it now. | 23:54 |
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