Wednesday, 2015-09-16

blogangrrr zuul is failing for the octavia tests, wish i could find the octavia and neutron logs on it00:00
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johnsomYeah, it's not done yet00:02
johnsomI am wondering if some of the gate tweaks Min and I did need pulled over00:02
blogan_its failing on all the setupClass methods, it can't creat an LB for some reason00:04
johnsomhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/209675/48/neutron_lbaas/tests/contrib/gate_hook.sh00:04
blogan_but cna't see why without neutron and octavia logs00:04
johnsomCould be the backing store issue00:04
blogan_doesn't that pull octavia down? is it not pulling down octavia now?00:05
blogan_without that review00:05
johnsomWe are pulling in octavia, it's the backing store setting I'm wondering about.00:06
blogan_so without this review, the enable_plugin for octavia is still being set?00:08
blogan_also looks like neutron-lbaas plugin is being added twice00:09
blogan_in that review00:09
johnsomWow, the jobs are done, but it is still sitting on it00:15
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johnsomOk, game on.00:18
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Make pools independent of listeners  https://review.openstack.org/21856000:28
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Various fixes for tempest tests with octavia  https://review.openstack.org/22334500:30
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Set Octavia as the reference LBaaSv2 driver  https://review.openstack.org/22326500:30
johnsomblogan_ Yeah, it looks like that gate code was changed since I had it working.  I don't know why there is dup in there.00:33
johnsomI have pulled in the gate settings that I think we need00:33
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openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/octavia: Add cert tracking and rotating in Housekeeping  https://review.openstack.org/21535900:39
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blogan_johnsom: great, thats what i was wondering about, looked like octavia wasn't being setup01:13
johnsomYeah, it's just a waiting game now01:13
bana_kOctaiva is not at all compatible with the LbaasV1 right ?01:18
blogan_bana_k: nope, but a driver could be created for it!01:22
blogan_bana_k: would it get merged? no01:22
bana_koh ok cool. got it :) thanks01:23
bana_kblogan_ and heat support is going to come in M01:23
bana_k?01:24
sbalukoffbana_k: If we add it, sure. :)01:28
sbalukoffbana_k: I don't know that we've defined exactly what that looks like yet.01:29
johnsomblogan Things are starting to pass01:29
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blogan_johnsom: yep see that01:34
blogan_johnsom: running it locally too just for shits and giggles01:34
blogan_sbalukoff: yeah not sure about heat support, if someone wants to add it great!01:35
blogan_just need the someone and motivation to do it01:35
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blogan_johnsom: welp one test just failed locally, stats call01:37
blogan_johnsom: never failed for me earlier so hopefully its just a fluke01:37
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johnsomSo far, so good on the gate02:01
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johnsomBuild timed out..... sigh02:53
blogan_lol02:53
blogan_i didnt know they had that02:53
blogan_but now we kno 2 hours and 5 minutes02:53
blogan_which was concerning anyway02:53
johnsomYeah, Min and I hit that before too02:53
blogan_is that a global setting?02:54
johnsomI took 30 minutes just to boot the darn devstack....02:54
blogan_hell it might have gone 4 hours02:54
blogan_still had the rest of the load balancer tests, then members, then pools02:54
johnsomYeah, I don't know how to fix that.  It's Jenkins killing it.  We got some time and memory back by taking horizon out of the build, but probably not enough.02:55
blogan_well i think the real problem is the length of time it takes to boot VMs02:56
johnsomMy comment was that we need to restructure the tests02:56
blogan_well we could just run the smokes02:56
blogan_but thats not very thorough02:56
johnsomYeah.  If they had vt-x turned on this would not be a problem...02:57
blogan_how hard is it to get that turned on? impossible?02:57
johnsomI started an internal conversation about that, but it isn't going to happen any time soon02:58
blogan_dang02:58
johnsomIt's kvm and kernel settings02:58
blogan_welp 3 option i see, 1) do smokes only 2) make a namespace/process based compute driver in octavia 3) dont make it ref02:59
blogan_all are shitty options02:59
blogan_though im sure there are others im not thinking02:59
johnsomYeah, containers would change this too03:00
blogan_yeah, but we'll need to get phil's code in for that03:00
blogan_since hot plugging does not work03:00
johnsomSo I'm not sure the process/namespace is worth the effort since we are going down the container path anyway03:00
blogan_which i was planning on doing some testing on soon anyway03:00
blogan_yeah i agree, and its not something any of us will use so its kinda pointless other than to give us a faux "good" environment03:01
johnsomWell, I think we should think about this and pick it up tomorrow.  (at least that is what my wife is thinking in the other room)03:01
blogan_lol mine too03:01
johnsomOk, catch you tomorrow03:01
blogan_see ya man03:01
blogan_take care03:01
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed openstack/octavia: Move roadmap to wiki  https://review.openstack.org/20876303:21
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Don't build amphora image if one is available  https://review.openstack.org/22392205:15
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Set Octavia as the reference LBaaSv2 driver  https://review.openstack.org/22326505:22
johnsomThis is an experiment to see if using a pre-built amphora image speeds up the gate enough to finish.05:28
sbalukoffI was wondering whether that's what that was about.05:30
sbalukoffSeems to make sense to me.05:30
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Don't build amphora image if one is available  https://review.openstack.org/22392206:24
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: neutron lbaas should add the new appended timestamp field  https://review.openstack.org/22080406:37
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openstackgerritEvgeny Fedoruk proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: L7 support for Radware LBaaS v2 driver  https://review.openstack.org/20214708:10
openstackgerritEvgeny Fedoruk proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: L7 capability extension implementation for lbaas v2  https://review.openstack.org/14823208:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Add device_id when a loadbalancer is created instead of at listener create  https://review.openstack.org/22198508:27
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: tox.ini: check migrations for the subproject only  https://review.openstack.org/22408313:30
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Updates for containers functionality  https://review.openstack.org/19995414:56
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Don't build amphora image if one is available  https://review.openstack.org/22392215:42
rm_workblogan / johnsom: ok, so the dsvm is running now, just timing out because of long builds? still not sure how it is taking so long given it took 4 minutes average on the RAX images i was testing15:45
rm_workblogan: johnsom: but do you have a link to some logs from one of the runs?15:45
johnsomrm_work This was the last run: http://logs.openstack.org/65/223265/8/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-api/cc42f10/15:46
johnsomI'm trying to have it download the amp image instead of doing the build.  That should save a bunch of setup time.15:46
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rm_workyeah but ... only once15:47
johnsomUnfortunately my trick to inject it into the localrc during the gate doesn't seem to work, so I modified the devstack plugin.sh script to download it15:47
johnsomThat is what is running now.  I have it downloading the image from our CDN.  My hope is this will drop the devstack setup time from 30 minutes and give the test enough time to run15:50
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rm_workhmm k15:54
johnsomHere is a run from yesterday that was succeeding, but timed out: http://logs.openstack.org/65/223265/7/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-api/897d0b6/console.html15:55
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rm_workthx16:00
rm_workjohnsom: in that log, I see VM builds taking 4-7 minutes16:01
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rm_workthat is much more like what i expected16:01
johnsomDevstack took 27 minutes to setup16:02
rm_workah, yeah16:02
rm_worki thought you were saying the VMs were taking 30m to build16:03
johnsomNo, the devstack setup16:03
johnsomThat is what I'm trying to reduce16:03
rm_workhmm and that's mostly the amp image? got it16:03
johnsomWell, the amp image build can take some time, so giving it a shot16:03
blogani dont think saving 30 minutes will help, i still think the job will still take 3 hours at a minimum16:05
johnsomYeah, could be16:05
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blogan4-7 minute build times for each load balancer is the killer, whereas the namespace driver just spun up a process and booted in like 3 seconds16:06
johnsomYeah, it's less than a minute if you have the vt-x available16:07
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bloganthat would cut it down by a lot for sure16:07
johnsomIt's the VM inside a VM problem with qemu dropping to tcg16:07
bloganbut you said it wouldn't be soon before they fixed that16:08
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johnsomYeah, I don't think so.  We would need both your systems and ours to enable it16:10
bloganis that a decision that can be made by infra or is that like rackspace and hp enabling it in their public cloud?16:11
blogani dont know how all that works16:11
johnsomI don't really either, but my guess is that our clouds would have to enable it16:11
johnsomhttp://kashyapc.com/2012/01/14/nested-virtualization-with-kvm-intel/16:11
johnsomThere is also this: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/devstack-with-nested-kvm.html16:12
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rm_workjohnsom: ok, so i know we use quite a bit of disk now for some reason?16:29
rm_workgot the advice that it is actually quite I/O bound more than anything, and reducing disk size of flavors helps a lot16:30
johnsomSorry, can't quite parse that16:30
rm_workand IIRC we just increased the disk size a bit?16:30
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johnsomI didn't increase the disk size, I told it that we could have up to 24G available to nova for the amps16:31
rm_workoh, k16:32
rm_workcan we REDUCE the disk size?16:32
rm_workhow much does it really need?16:32
johnsomI set VOLUME_BACKING_SIZE=24G16:32
rm_workk16:33
johnsomWe give the root disk, via flavor, 5GB.  I think we really only use 2GB of that.16:33
johnsomI don't really understand how that is going to make any difference though16:34
johnsomIt's 1.6GB of used space actually16:35
johnsomIf we want to drop that from 5 to 2 we can try it.16:35
johnsomI just want to see how we do on timing with this test16:35
rm_workyeah we should try that16:38
rm_workthey said it's the I/O of creating the disk images and such is a lot16:39
johnsomLet me double check 2GB boots on my devstack while we wait for this16:39
rm_workk16:40
rm_workjohnsom: do you see a flavor "42" in devstack?16:43
rm_workjohnsom: and if so, what are the specs on it16:43
johnsom| 42 | m1.nano   | 64        | 0    | 0         |      | 1     | 1.0         | True      |16:43
rm_workerr so that's16:44
rm_work64mb memory???16:44
rm_work1g disk?16:44
rm_worknot sure of the solumns16:45
rm_work*columns16:45
johnsom64MB RAM, 0GB disk16:45
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rm_worklol16:46
rm_workwell, maybe 5->2GB will help16:46
johnsomyeah, no idea16:46
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rm_workjohnsom: i also wonder if either increasing or reducing the RAM would help16:56
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rm_workdepends on what is blocking i guess16:56
johnsomI had to reduce it with the custom flavor as it said there wasn't enough RAM available in the gate host to boot the amp16:57
dougwigwould anyone be available to attempt to convert the lbaas tempest tests to this framework?  http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/plugin.html   (xgerman?)16:57
xgermanin M?16:57
xgermanand we don’t want to go rally?16:57
dougwigtempest folks are at a code sprint, working on that interface right now, so it'd be interesting if we could give it a go and give them feedback (similar to what we did with the devstack plugin.)16:58
johnsomrm_work Ok, I built a 2GB image and booted it in a smaller flavor.  After this test I will re-work the patches and give it a go.16:59
johnsomrm_work just don't understand this issue, since I can reproduce these speed issues with vt-x on and off16:59
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johnsomrm_work It's a check box on my VMWare host.17:01
rm_workah yeah, one would assume that if it doesn't slow the build with vt-x on, then... yeah17:01
rm_workhmm17:01
johnsomI've give it go though.  I just want to see the speedup with the download on this run.17:02
blogani assume trove has the same issues but they just run less tests?17:02
rm_workyeah i think their advice was like... do less tests17:02
rm_worklol17:02
rm_workor "use nova-lxc"17:02
bloganyeah17:02
johnsomYeah, the trove and cue guys just boot one or two vms for all of the tests17:02
bloganwhich i think is going to end up being our best option17:02
johnsomWe talked to them about it17:02
openstackgerritCarlos Garza proposed openstack/octavia: Implementing EventStreamer  https://review.openstack.org/21873517:02
rm_workbut would nova-lxc work with our existing nova/neutron compute/network drivers?17:03
bloganwell we'd ahve to restructure the tests for that17:03
johnsomYeah, I agree.  Containers are probably the answer17:03
bloganrm_work: no bc im sure they dont support hot plugging, but if we got phils patches reviewed and merged they m ight work with that17:03
johnsomWow, download went from 30 minutes for devstack build to ~417:03
rm_workbut then, that also wouldn't test our default compute option <_<17:03
bloganthen again i dont know how nova-lxc works, is that magnum or something nova extension?17:04
bloganwell if we can default to containers i dont think anyone woudl complain17:04
bloganwell i wouldnt17:04
blogan:)17:04
johnsomOh, nevermind, devstack build failed17:04
rm_workheh17:04
rm_workbut isn't HP planning on full VMs?17:04
bloganjohnsom: i tried building the amphora image on a 2GB disk size flavor and it failed for me17:04
rm_workso we'd need to make sure that code path works <_<17:04
blogani've heard whispers of using containers17:05
crc32<psst>containers</psst>17:05
johnsomDid you rebuild the image down to a 2GB size?   You have to do that17:05
bloganjohnsom: ah probably not17:05
johnsomrm_work blogan Do you guys know how to get the devstacklog.txt for that last dsvm run?17:08
blogani do not17:08
johnsomThe console log says they were kept, but I can't find them via the link17:08
rm_workhmm17:14
rm_workjohnsom: did the whole jenkins run finish?17:14
rm_worki am never able to find the log links until the entire zuul job finishes and jenkins votes17:14
johnsomIt failed on devstack setup.17:14
rm_workthen the vote includes the log links17:14
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xgermanblogan/dougwig: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Meeting_2015-09-1617:39
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Don't build amphora image if one is available  https://review.openstack.org/22392217:42
johnsomrm_work Ok, running a 2GB image and flavor17:46
rm_workk, it might help SOME at least... maybe a minimal amount :/17:47
rm_workbut yeah given your earlier results i wouldn't imagine it's a gamechanger17:48
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rm_workjohnsom: yeah watching a local devstack build and it really does take a while for that image builder <_<18:02
rm_workI will grab your patch and see how my local builds improve18:02
johnsomYeah, it does18:02
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rm_workso the only issue i see with this18:10
rm_workis that we then have issues testing changes that touch our image builder18:10
rm_workbecause we make a change... and it flies through the gate without actually testing it18:10
rm_workif we can solve that, then i'd vote to merge (something like) this18:11
johnsomYeah, agree, I was exploring this as an experiment18:11
rm_workyeah18:11
rm_workshould be solvable18:12
rm_workjust have to think a bit18:12
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Updates for containers functionality  https://review.openstack.org/19995418:33
johnsomHmmm, wondering if that last run picked up the right image18:34
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rm_workjohnsom: stack.sh run in RAX public cloud went from 1918 to 1200 seconds18:35
rm_workin my one test18:35
johnsomCool.  I'm just wondering if it got the 2gb image or if the timing was bad and it downloaded the 5gb image18:35
rm_workalso yeah, 5gb -> 2gb would reduce download time for the image, unless it is sparse?18:35
rm_workis it sparse?18:35
rm_worki actually hope it's sparse18:36
crc32rm_work: the isinstance method on __eq__ is actually the pythonic way of testing for equality. Its the only safe way to make quality work in a SOLID pattern.18:36
rm_workhmm18:36
crc32yea I originally didn't have it.18:36
johnsomYeah, it's sparse so it really didn't change the image size at all.18:36
rm_worki have mostly heard differently, but maybe it is different for __eq__18:36
rm_workmight be an exception18:36
johnsomJust trying to address your request of a 2GB image and flavor vs. the default 5gb18:36
rm_worki will look around a bit18:36
rm_workyeah18:36
rm_workwe'll see what happens to build times18:37
rm_workthey MIGHT speed up some18:37
rm_workbecause it is true that it has to allocate the space18:37
rm_workmight be like 20s each or so tho :/18:37
crc32If I don't use it and instead just call "==" directky for some reason differen't sub classes will look identicle even when they have different data.18:37
rm_workyeah, you def need to include __eq__18:39
rm_workah, i think i see18:39
rm_workyeah, so i guess without isinstance() in your __eq__ method, it's more like javascript's shitty ==18:40
rm_workand WITH isinstance() it's more like ===18:40
rm_workso yeah, i think you changed my mind, i wasn't really considering exactly where it is18:40
rm_work__eq__ seems like a good exception for the "avoid using isinstance()" rule I follow18:41
crc32I don't understand it either but for some reasons subclasses with differen't values end up passing the equality test with out isinstance. I'm looking for the example18:44
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openstackgerritmin wang proposed openstack/octavia: Add cert tracking and rotating in Housekeeping  https://review.openstack.org/21535920:30
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rm_workdougwig: it looks like ALL jobs for neutron-lbaas pipe through a single template21:00
rm_workdougwig: do I need to add {subbranch-designator}? lol21:00
rm_workwe run: gate-neutron-lbaasv2-octavia-dsvm-api21:01
rm_workerr this doesn't make sense21:02
rm_work'{pipeline}-neutron-{lbaasversion}-dsvm-{lbaastest}{branch-designator}'21:02
rm_workgate-neutron-lbaasv2-octavia-dsvm-api21:02
rm_workthat doesn't line up21:02
rm_workam I looking at the wrong thing?21:02
johnsomYes, that is the experimental gate.21:03
johnsomIgnore that for now21:03
dougwiglbaasv2-octavia is the lbaasversion.21:03
rm_workrofl ok21:03
dougwigthat field is a misnomer now.21:03
dougwigbut yeah, we need to stretch that template a bit more.21:04
rm_workand so "api" is the {lbaastest}21:04
dougwigright21:04
rm_workand there is no {branch-designator}?21:04
dougwigthat's a standard thing, we don't touch that21:04
rm_workk21:04
rm_workthe value of the would be like21:04
rm_work"-liberty"?21:04
rm_workthe parsing on this is really wonky21:05
rm_workthis doesn't look like a sane regex, for example21:05
rm_work(ignoring the obvious "sane regex?" joke)21:06
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dougwigthat's like sane perl. my brain won't even parse the words.21:09
rm_workhow does this tell what {branch-designator} is?21:10
rm_workthere's no split21:10
rm_workit looks to me like .*.*21:10
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dougwigrm_work: you're going to hurt your brain, insisting on looking into every dark corner of that stuff.21:13
rm_workugh21:13
rm_worki'll just throw random shit at this wall and see if it sticks21:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Move roadmap to wiki  https://review.openstack.org/20876321:18
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sbalukoffYay!21:24
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rm_workcan someone who is better at BASH explain what this does:21:28
rm_worktestenv=${2:-"apiv2"}21:28
rm_workis that like .... $2 if it exists or else "apiv2" ?21:28
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madhu_akrm_work yes. even if there is no $2, it sets $2 apiv2 as default21:29
rm_workkk21:29
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openstackgerritAdam Harwell proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Split up gate tests for LBaaSv2  https://review.openstack.org/22434523:21
rm_workerm, I THINK that should do it23:21
rm_workjohnsom: ^^23:22
rm_workdougwig: ^^23:22
johnsomCool, I will take a look23:22
rm_workI added some comments23:26
rm_workdougwig: hoping that is what you had in mind23:31
bana_kjohnsom: So for active stand we need to use rest driver and not the ssh driver ?23:36
bana_kstandby*23:37
johnsomCorrect.  We are going to obsolete the ssh driver23:37
bana_kok23:37
johnsomSo the developer didn't implement ssh23:37
bana_koh ok thought so :)23:37
bana_kthanks23:37
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rm_workpersonally I still like the SSH driver <_<23:45
rm_workbut23:45
rm_workyeah23:45
rm_workjohnsom: https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-api/1254/console23:46
rm_workappears to have worked23:46
rm_workI set the default to only do "load_balancers" tests23:46
rm_workjohnsom: try depending on this for your change to update to octavia ref?23:46
rm_workjohnsom: and it should be able to pass gate23:46
* johnsom gives rm_work a thumbs up23:46
rm_workwe might want to pick a nice subset of tests later to be the "default"23:47
johnsomOk, let me look at that.  I feel like I should undo some of my hacks too23:47
johnsomOr at least make them better hacks23:47
bana_kjohnsom : Error while creating the LB. https://gist.github.com/banveerad/90611a894b7775e86b8923:50
johnsomHmmm, I wonder if there is a missing dependency23:51
johnsombana_k The first one is because the amphora image was built with the MASTER code and not the code in this patch.23:57
johnsomThe second one uncovered an old bug23:57
johnsomCool!23:57
bana_kjohnsom : Oh I had applied the patch23:58
rm_youwoo old bugs23:58
bana_kn I can see the new config file for the octavia23:58
johnsomYeah, a revert in code in master is updating status instead of provisioning/operating status23:58
bana_kn in octavia db load_balancer does not have the status column23:59
bana_koh ok so I will take the new code from master23:59

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