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| johnsom | rm_work ping | 04:19 |
| rm_work | johnsom: pong | 04:26 |
| johnsom | Quick question, if the listener's connection count is at connmax in haproxy, should we report the listener operating_status as ERROR or DEGRADED? | 04:26 |
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| johnsom | I am leaning towards DEGRADED. It's an opinion thing, just figured while I was here I would get a second opinion | 04:28 |
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| johnsom | haproxy reports it as OPEN and FULL | 04:29 |
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| rm_work | johnsom: if it's maxxing its connections, I don't know if I'd do either | 04:48 |
| rm_work | but I'd lean toward degraded | 04:48 |
| rm_work | i mean, technically it's operating successfully? | 04:48 |
| rm_work | johnsom: is that a limit set by the customer, or like, the hard limit for what the box can support, set by us? | 04:49 |
| johnsom | Yeah, just at the maximum connections, so some connections may be rejected | 04:49 |
| rm_work | true, but it's still WORKING | 04:49 |
| johnsom | Set by us I think | 04:49 |
| rm_work | ERROR would imply we need to shoot and recycle | 04:49 |
| johnsom | I agree | 04:49 |
| rm_work | DEGRADED would imply ... ??? | 04:49 |
| johnsom | Limping | 04:49 |
| rm_work | I feel like really what that should signal is an autoscale trigger, lol | 04:50 |
| rm_work | but definitely if the only two choices are DEGRADED or ERROR, it'd be DEGRADED | 04:50 |
| johnsom | Well, yes | 04:50 |
| johnsom | Right now we have four choices: ONLINE, OFFLINE, DEGRADED, ERROR | 04:50 |
| rm_work | so yeah, I'd say it'd between ONLINE and DEGRADED | 04:51 |
| rm_work | because technically it's ONLINE | 04:51 |
| rm_work | but | 04:51 |
| johnsom | This can be changed later obviously, just wanted to make a good start | 04:51 |
| rm_work | I guess experience could be DEGRADED since some connections would fail | 04:51 |
| rm_work | what are the other reasons it could be DEGRADED? | 04:51 |
| johnsom | Yeah, that is where I went. Ok, thanks. I will check in working status DB updates tonight | 04:51 |
| rm_work | some members down? | 04:51 |
| johnsom | Right now I don't have any other reason for the listener to be degraded | 04:52 |
| rm_work | does a POOL have an OperationalStatus? | 04:52 |
| rm_work | and if so, would it be DEGRADED if at least one member is down? | 04:52 |
| rm_work | and would that cascade up to the LISTENER? | 04:52 |
| johnsom | I'm just taking the two options haproxy is giving us, OPEN or FULL and interpreting it into our lingo | 04:52 |
| rm_work | yeah | 04:53 |
| johnsom | Yes, pool has seperate op status and degraded is one or more, all down is error | 04:53 |
| rm_work | just curious what all could cause DEGRADED, because from a customer's point of view, they'll have to see the DEGRADED status and figure out what it means | 04:53 |
| rm_work | so if there's really only one or two options, it is easier | 04:53 |
| rm_work | if I see my LB in DEGRADED status, I'll have to think "so, one or more of my members could be down, or else maybe my LB is at full capacity -- i'll have to dig deeper" | 04:54 |
| rm_work | and at that point, what do they query? POOL status and see all members up... so then they infer that it's full capacity? | 04:54 |
| rm_work | is there even a way for them to see the capacity issue? | 04:54 |
| johnsom | Well, we only have the full status tree if you want to see under the lb, so they get it all | 04:55 |
| rm_work | wondering if it deserves another status like FULL or CAPACITY (if we want our statuses to be unambiguous as to the issue, where we define DEGRADED as *only* "one or more members down") | 04:55 |
| johnsom | I think our stats has the conn count, but not sure. | 04:55 |
| rm_work | basically it needs to be clear from the user's perspective what action they need to take | 04:56 |
| rm_work | in this case, that action would be "scale up"... if that were an option | 04:56 |
| johnsom | At this hour I'm thinking I'll leave it degraded and folks can debate on the patchset | 04:56 |
| rm_work | yep | 04:56 |
| rm_work | that seems like the right move :P | 04:56 |
| johnsom | Thanks | 04:56 |
| rm_work | in the interest of actually going home and/or to bed :) | 04:56 |
| rm_work | of which I am already both <_< | 04:56 |
| johnsom | Lucky, home, but not in bed yet | 04:56 |
| rm_work | I work from bed like 90% of the time so it's not abnormal for me | 04:57 |
| johnsom | Hahaha TMI | 04:57 |
| rm_work | heh | 04:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/215088 | 05:11 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/215443 | 05:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Implement UDP heartbeat sender and receiver https://review.openstack.org/201882 | 05:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Adding amphora failover flows https://review.openstack.org/202336 | 05:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: health manager service https://review.openstack.org/160061 | 05:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/215443 | 05:43 |
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| johnsom | Ok, there is some breakage in the failover flows patchset that I had to rebase onto so, done for tonight | 06:22 |
| johnsom | It's more than I can quickly figure out and fix | 06:23 |
| johnsom | It looks like 37 as good, but 38 and subsequently 39 failed the tests | 06:24 |
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| rm_work | hmm | 09:09 |
| rm_work | yeah I guess TrevorV can look at it in the morning | 09:09 |
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| pilgrimstack | hi all | 09:16 |
| pilgrimstack | little question | 09:16 |
| pilgrimstack | on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS | 09:17 |
| pilgrimstack | "LBaaS is currently part of Neutron, plans are underway to make it a separate project" | 09:17 |
| pilgrimstack | That stills true? | 09:17 |
| pilgrimstack | other question, will LB v1 be deprecated? have you an idea of the ETA? | 09:30 |
| rm_work | pilgrimstack: no, that is very out of date | 09:39 |
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| rm_work | LBaaS *was* directly in the Neutron project, now we are a separate project (Neutron-LBaaS) but still under the Neutron tent (as implied by still having neutron in our name) | 09:39 |
| rm_work | LB v1 *will* be deprecated, but I don't know exactly when | 09:40 |
| rm_work | I believe the deprecation announcement should be soon though, possibly within the next cycle, at which point I believe it would remain in deprecated state for at least two more cycles, and then possibly be unsupported | 09:40 |
| rm_work | pilgrimstack: let me know if there's anything else I can help with :) | 09:42 |
| rm_work | within reason, of course -- probably can't help you fix your kitchen sink | 09:43 |
| pilgrimstack | thank you rm_work, so LBaaS v2 is still experimental ? | 09:45 |
| pilgrimstack | that's what API page says | 09:46 |
| rm_work | at the moment, I believe so | 09:46 |
| pilgrimstack | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html#lbaas-v2.0 | 09:46 |
| rm_work | but should be officially releasing as of Liberty | 09:46 |
| rm_work | if things go according to plan | 09:46 |
| pilgrimstack | ok thank you very much | 09:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/octavia: Added support of multi-region environment https://review.openstack.org/215567 | 10:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/octavia: Added support of multi-region environment https://review.openstack.org/215567 | 10:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/octavia: Added support of multi-region environment https://review.openstack.org/215567 | 14:18 |
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| johnsom | A bit blocked on the network driver changes in the failover flow patchset. Devstack with that patch can't build amphora. | 14:51 |
| johnsom | Maybe I should consider dropping it from the dependency chain | 14:52 |
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| pilgrimstack | what is the SSL status? | 15:28 |
| pilgrimstack | discution/implemented/stable ? | 15:28 |
| pilgrimstack | same question on L7 LB ;) ? | 15:29 |
| johnsom_ | TLS offload is in Kilo LBaasV2 | 15:32 |
| johnsom_ | L7 did not make Kilo | 15:32 |
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| xgerman | and is in danger for Liberty | 15:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/octavia: Added support of multi-region environment https://review.openstack.org/215567 | 15:38 |
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| pilgrimstack | ok thx guys ;) | 15:48 |
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| rm_work | johnsom: i can look at the failover issue in trevor's patch since he may not be in office today | 19:29 |
| xgerman | you guys have work optional Fridays ? | 19:37 |
| xgerman | just kidding :-) | 19:37 |
| xgerman | johnsom is at lunch so you stepping in is really appreciated | 19:37 |
| blogan | rm_work: i was going to look at it since ive been helping him out some and it was the reveiw that merged taht broke his | 19:38 |
| blogan | that i did | 19:39 |
| xgerman | cool | 19:40 |
| rm_work | blogan: lol k | 19:44 |
| rm_work | blogan: go for it | 19:44 |
| rm_work | just someone needs to | 19:44 |
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| rm_work | blogan: you have thoughts on that? | 20:27 |
| rm_work | oh and TrevorV just signed on, heh | 20:28 |
| TrevorV | Wait, what? Did I break something? | 20:28 |
| * TrevorV has no scrollback | 20:28 | |
| rm_work | TrevorV: err, that patchset you said you were going to look at | 20:28 |
| rm_work | the failover one | 20:28 |
| rm_work | johnsom was having a lot of issues with it yesterday because the stuff he's working on has it as a dep | 20:28 |
| TrevorV | You mean the thing I've been working on in general over the last few weeks that has been a beast? | 20:28 |
| rm_work | yes | 20:29 |
| rm_work | but apparently broke yesterday | 20:29 |
| TrevorV | Yes, I emailed about it. | 20:29 |
| TrevorV | Internally I mean | 20:29 |
| TrevorV | johnsom, you around? | 20:29 |
| TrevorV | Something was merged into master yesterday before I left for the day. That something broke things like "unplug_network" | 20:30 |
| TrevorV | it was apparently a patch set that had changes from May. | 20:31 |
| TrevorV | Either way, I haven't really been able to lock down what was wrong with it or what it SHOULD do, and its malfunctioning in general. | 20:31 |
| TrevorV | I'm not sure why only my patch has issues though, I was assuming everyone else would have issues, but I haven't verified that by testing master ATM | 20:31 |
| TrevorV | Or at least identifying what the hell is broken with merging it with me. | 20:32 |
| TrevorV | So idk | 20:32 |
| rm_work | which patchset was it | 20:33 |
| rm_work | err which CR | 20:33 |
| TrevorV | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215322/ | 20:34 |
| TrevorV | That is what broke me | 20:34 |
| TrevorV | It is ENTIRELY possible I merged it incorrectly | 20:34 |
| rm_work | hmm | 20:34 |
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| rm_work | yeah that shouldn't have been a big deal i think | 20:34 |
| TrevorV | Now that I put some extra thought into it | 20:34 |
| blogan | TrevorV: yeah what merged was probably the network driver clean up | 20:34 |
| TrevorV | It was the vip allocation issue | 20:35 |
| blogan | TrevorV: adn tahts what probably messed your code up a bit, but it shouldn't be too terrible | 20:35 |
| blogan | vip allocation issue? | 20:35 |
| TrevorV | It was terrible for 6 am me. | 20:35 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:35 |
| rm_work | I was online till around 6am actually, could possibly have helped if you'd been on IRC :( | 20:35 |
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| TrevorV | I was on IRC... | 20:35 |
| TrevorV | I wasn't messaging in IRC | 20:35 |
| blogan | oh that one shouldn't have done anything, it was probably the one that one depended on | 20:35 |
| rm_work | i actually tried to ping you here around 4:30am and you weren't in channel :( | 20:36 |
| rm_work | ah you got on at 5:14 | 20:36 |
| TrevorV | Why would you ping me at 4:30? | 20:36 |
| rm_work | to leave you a note for morning :) | 20:36 |
| TrevorV | <-- has no bouncer | 20:37 |
| TrevorV | Never would have got it | 20:37 |
| TrevorV | tis why I has email | 20:37 |
| TrevorV | How do I go back a number of patchsets? | 20:37 |
| TrevorV | Like, undo patchsets? | 20:37 |
| rm_work | just pull it down, and then checkout that patchset | 20:37 |
| rm_work | then do a "git commit --amend" with no changes | 20:37 |
| rm_work | and git review again | 20:37 |
| rm_work | "check out that patchset" -> git checkout <old_patchset_hash> | 20:38 |
| rm_work | "pull it down" -> pull down the CR with review -d | 20:38 |
| blogan | well you should get it working with the changes in master | 20:38 |
| blogan | TrevorV: i can do the rebase and fix the merge conflicts if you want | 20:39 |
| TrevorV | blogan, that's what I meant to do | 20:39 |
| TrevorV | I meant to revert to a patch set and re-merge | 20:39 |
| TrevorV | just doing it more carefully | 20:39 |
| blogan | ah okay, well i can do that since I have an intimate knowledg eof what should be there | 20:40 |
| TrevorV | Let me do it, so I can get a better idea of it for future | 20:40 |
| rm_work | if it's blogan's code that mucked everything up, might be easier to let him fix it | 20:40 |
| rm_work | but yeah it's still good experience | 20:40 |
| TrevorV | Any way I can watch a little? | 20:40 |
| TrevorV | Like screen share? | 20:40 |
| TrevorV | I don't mind you doing it. | 20:40 |
| blogan | okay | 20:40 |
| TrevorV | Vidyo or hangouts? | 20:40 |
| blogan | vidyo i guess | 20:41 |
| TrevorV | Doesn't have vidyo... RIP | 20:41 |
| rm_work | rofl | 20:41 |
| TrevorV | Ha ha | 20:41 |
| blogan | ok hangouts then | 20:41 |
| TrevorV | I'm not on my laptop | 20:41 |
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| TrevorV | Sorry :( | 20:41 |
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| johnsom | TrevorV Hi. Yeah, patchset 37 was good (I'm using it now) 38+ can't build amps. | 20:46 |
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| TrevorV | yeah, brandon is helping me right now johnsom | 20:48 |
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| johnsom | Awesome, thanks! | 20:48 |
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| johnsom | If no one else comments, I may do a quick update to fix/add the stats too. It's all related code to the health messages | 20:49 |
| rm_work | xgerman: since my time/availability can't be reliably predicted, crc32 is taking over the EventStream thing for status/stats updates to queue | 20:49 |
| xgerman | ok, I have taken a backseat until johnsom’s dust settles | 20:50 |
| johnsom | I was able to test my last patchset on devstack (using failover patchset 37) and the status is making it to the DB | 20:50 |
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| rm_work | cool | 20:53 |
| xgerman | yeah, I didn’t want to break anything while he was working on that :-) | 20:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Franklin Naval proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: WIP: Neutron LBaaS: TLS Barbican Scenario Test https://review.openstack.org/164828 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Brandon Logan proposed openstack/octavia: Adding amphora failover flows https://review.openstack.org/202336 | 21:07 |
| * johnsom Does the happy dance... | 21:07 | |
| blogan | still a failing test, but TrevorV can fix that | 21:08 |
| * johnsom Does a partial happy dance | 21:08 | |
| blogan | but i tested it out end to end, everythign builds, and i can still hit the vip | 21:09 |
| TrevorV | johnsom, blogan hooked me up, so I'm going to fix the test stuffs ASAP and then you should have a "working" failover step... Except its still failing :( | 21:09 |
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| johnsom | Ok, thanks! | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Franklin Naval proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: WIP: Neutron LBaaS: TLS Barbican Scenario Test https://review.openstack.org/164828 | 21:22 |
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| fnaval | ptoohill: please take a look when you get a chance ^^ -- it appears to be working | 21:22 |
| ptoohill | Yea, we just needed that one review i added that got merged. Those tests were working. Want to pull it out of WIP? Well, it still needs the sni test I think. | 21:23 |
| ptoohill | fnaval: | 21:23 |
| fnaval | ah, i thought it was testing sni | 21:24 |
| fnaval | as well | 21:24 |
| ptoohill | Yea, I think it is. But | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Franklin Naval proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Neutron LBaaS: TLS Barbican Scenario Test https://review.openstack.org/164828 | 21:24 |
| ptoohill | not sure thats accurate now | 21:25 |
| ptoohill | hmmm | 21:25 |
| fnaval | take a look anyway and make appropriate comments | 21:25 |
| ptoohill | oh | 21:25 |
| ptoohill | nvm | 21:25 |
| ptoohill | it wont work with octavia quite yet | 21:25 |
| ptoohill | that's right | 21:25 |
| fnaval | there may need to be more comprehensive tests | 21:25 |
| fnaval | it | 21:25 |
| ptoohill | octavia didnt have sni, but theres patches out there now for it. So yea, this test is good | 21:25 |
| fnaval | oh, i tried with octavia with the basic scenario tests -- it seems most tests aren't passing with it | 21:25 |
| ptoohill | Yea, there was a delete issue and maybe something else. blogan has patch for delete issues | 21:26 |
| ptoohill | and sni wont work until my reviews make it in either. But that doesnt affect n-lbaas so this is still good. | 21:26 |
| ptoohill | Things are movin along nicely I think. | 21:27 |
| ptoohill | This needs to make it in n-lbaas at some point also. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188703/ | 21:29 |
| ptoohill | other than that, wwere left with octavia stuff mostly. | 21:29 |
| fnaval | ok cool yea, i've been testing with the n-lbaas instead of octavia | 21:30 |
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| bana_k | deleting LB is not deleting all the ports | 21:59 |
| bana_k | is it a know issue or should I log it bug? | 21:59 |
| xgerman | brogan did some updates regarding ports | 22:01 |
| xgerman | blogan | 22:02 |
| xgerman | bana_k which ports are we leaving behind? Octavia ones or the ones Neutron LBaaS V2 creates? | 22:02 |
| bana_k | I am not sure which ones are created by who | 22:03 |
| xgerman | Octavia in his latest incarnation will add an owner “Octavia" | 22:03 |
| bana_k | oh ok ll check | 22:03 |
| xgerman | thanks | 22:04 |
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| bana_k | xgerman : sometimes on my setup delete lb is not deleting the Amphora, so those extra ports are from that VM. | 22:14 |
| bana_k | I think deleting of the LB vm on LB delete is not yet in. | 22:15 |
| xgerman | yeah, that’s missing | 22:16 |
| xgerman | johnsom would know more though :-) | 22:16 |
| bana_k | oh ok. | 22:16 |
| xgerman | since I believe delete flows should be there | 22:16 |
| johnsom | You rang? | 22:16 |
| xgerman | yep bana_k is saying delete of the vm doesn’t work | 22:17 |
| xgerman | and I was wondering if the delete flows are all in? | 22:17 |
| johnsom | Yeah, we have had on going issues with delete. blogan did some recent work on that. | 22:17 |
| xgerman | yep, he put owners on ports so Octavia only deletes the ports it creates | 22:18 |
| johnsom | Yeah, just checked, the delete of the VM when an amphora is deleted is still not implemented | 22:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Trevor Vardeman proposed openstack/octavia: Adding amphora failover flows https://review.openstack.org/202336 | 22:20 |
| xgerman | ouch | 22:20 |
| TrevorV | johnsom, tests should be passing again | 22:20 |
| xgerman | cool! | 22:20 |
| johnsom | Right now it still marks it as deleted in the DB, but doesn't delete it in nova | 22:20 |
| johnsom | TrevorV Thank you!!!! | 22:21 |
| TrevorV | No problem :) | 22:21 |
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| xgerman | well, that should be an easy fix | 22:21 |
| johnsom | I just about have stats going into the DB | 22:21 |
| TrevorV | I have to go now, I'll talk to you all Monday! | 22:21 |
| johnsom | Yeah, it's a TODO | 22:21 |
| johnsom | Have a good one | 22:21 |
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| xgerman | so we ant to delete when delete is called or in the housekeeping? | 22:22 |
| johnsom | We decided to just do the delete and skip having housekeeping do it | 22:23 |
| xgerman | ok, will see what I can do then | 22:23 |
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| johnsom | xgerman amphora_flows.py:150 | 22:24 |
| xgerman | yep, don’t make it too easy :-) | 22:25 |
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| johnsom | listener_id | bytes_in | bytes_out | active_connections | total_connections | 22:34 |
| johnsom | 44ad4d22-8373-492c-96e2-baa3fa944a80 | 7 | 212 | 0 | 1 | | 22:34 |
| xgerman | Yeah!! | 22:34 |
| madhu_ak | nice stats | 22:35 |
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| madhu_ak | fnaval, ptoohill : for the tls scenario tests that rebased and posted, i think we need to include enabled_Services = barbican in devstack gate setup, then that test can be tested in jenkins though | 22:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: health manager service https://review.openstack.org/160061 | 22:40 |
| openstackgerrit | min wang proposed openstack/octavia: Add cert tracking and rotating in Housekeeping https://review.openstack.org/215359 | 22:42 |
| ptoohill | madhu_ak: What does that require. But yes, it will need Barbican | 22:45 |
| madhu_ak | yeah, ptoohill: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas/blob/master/neutron_lbaas/tests/contrib/gate_hook.sh just inclusion of barbican here | 22:46 |
| openstackgerrit | German Eichberger proposed openstack/octavia: Adding the line to delete amphora https://review.openstack.org/215821 | 22:46 |
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| xgerman | probably did it wrong | 22:47 |
| madhu_ak | ptoohill: I would have worked on that, but internal stuffs keeping me busy :( | 22:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sherif Abdelwahab proposed openstack/octavia: Amphora Flows and Service Drivers for Active Standby https://review.openstack.org/206252 | 22:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Implement UDP heartbeat sender and receiver https://review.openstack.org/201882 | 23:46 |
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