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| openstackgerrit | Vijay Kumar Venkatachalam proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: NetScaler driver for LBaaS V2 extension https://review.openstack.org/148541 | 06:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Fedoruk proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: L7 capability extension implementation for lbaas v2 https://review.openstack.org/148232 | 09:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jorge Miramontes proposed stackforge/octavia: Queue Consumer Specification https://review.openstack.org/147699 | 16:13 |
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| blogan | good afternoon everyone | 20:24 |
| ptoohill | Good afternoon-ish | 20:38 |
| jorgem | xgerman: Hey Germna | 20:53 |
| jorgem | German* | 20:53 |
| jorgem | and johnsom | 20:53 |
| xgerman | hi | 20:54 |
| jorgem | xgerman: So, Brandon and I have been talking and I wanted to see if you were okay with me passing in deltas for the update methods | 20:55 |
| jorgem | I'd like to get to deployable code quicker | 20:55 |
| jorgem | then iterate | 20:55 |
| johnsom | Hello | 20:55 |
| jorgem | johnsom: Hey | 20:55 |
| xgerman | well, so the api server would manage the history? | 20:56 |
| jorgem | xgerman: johnsom: Adding a task/event table right now seems to be a little heavy for 0.5 | 20:56 |
| jorgem | So we wouldn't have history for 0.5 | 20:56 |
| jorgem | for 1.0 yes | 20:56 |
| xgerman | well, the question is who is reading the DB then | 20:57 |
| jorgem | but I think both Rackspace and HP will be happier once we have something working. The quicker we do that the better IMHO | 20:57 |
| jorgem | The deploy worker will be | 20:57 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:57 |
| jorgem | I'll explain in the spec if that makes it easier | 20:58 |
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| xgerman | I am just wondering where the best place is to deal with history. Deploy Worker, Queue Consumer, or API | 20:58 |
| jorgem | so history would be in deploy worker to | 20:58 |
| jorgem | I see the deploy worker as the horse that does the work | 20:58 |
| jorgem | But that wouldn't be until 1.0 | 20:58 |
| jorgem | is what I'm advocating now | 20:58 |
| xgerman | ok, then we can keep the method signature and just defer in the spec to a later version/spec | 20:59 |
| jorgem | I know I was speaking about it but after some thought I'd rather get something out sooner for 0.5 | 20:59 |
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| jorgem | So... | 20:59 |
| jorgem | I would need to add a parameter for the update methods in my spec | 20:59 |
| jorgem | in order to get the deltas | 20:59 |
| jorgem | Basically deploy worker will query db for old state and I'll pass you the delta so that you can make the change | 21:00 |
| jorgem | if a rollback occurr the provisioning status will go into ERROR status or something like that | 21:00 |
| jorgem | Operating status will remain ACTIVE | 21:00 |
| jorgem | Then... | 21:00 |
| xgerman | ok, sound s like a plan | 21:00 |
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| jorgem | user can still make requests even though provisioning status will be in ERROR | 21:01 |
| xgerman | so you are sending the delta or just the lb-id and then I look up in DB what needs to be provisioned | 21:01 |
| jorgem | again, just for 0.5 | 21:01 |
| jorgem | I'll pass both | 21:01 |
| xgerman | yep, cool | 21:01 |
| jorgem | this is just changing for the update methods | 21:01 |
| jorgem | it's not necessary for the delete and create methods | 21:01 |
| jorgem | So cool then, I'll update my spec again | 21:02 |
| xgerman | well, the original plan was that api server would put the desired state into the DB and we would the load it and make it so | 21:02 |
| jorgem | should be out in a few minutes | 21:02 |
| jorgem | xgerman: Correct, but we do that here at Rackspace and if a rollback occurs we can't allow the user to update lbs in ERROR status | 21:03 |
| jorgem | plus... | 21:03 |
| johnsom | My concern is the deploy worker is passing DB id's to the drivers, so deploy worker would have to hold the old state and re-submit to the DB if things fail? | 21:03 |
| jorgem | johnsom: no changes to db would need to be made in the event of a rollback except you need to update prov status to ERROR | 21:04 |
| jorgem | for 0.5 | 21:04 |
| jorgem | for 1.0 we will have a separate table as discussed the other day | 21:04 |
| jorgem | and you still won't have to update db in that case | 21:04 |
| jorgem | unless the request succeeds of course | 21:04 |
| jorgem | Let me know if I am not explaining adequately | 21:05 |
| xgerman | well, if the requets fails we want ot put it into error | 21:05 |
| jorgem | that too | 21:06 |
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| jorgem | The deploy workers should do the following: | 21:06 |
| jorgem | ... | 21:06 |
| jorgem | 1) Happy path - update database with new updates plus provisioning status to ACTIVE | 21:07 |
| jorgem | 2) If rollback occurrs update prov status to ERROR and no need to update other attributes | 21:07 |
| jorgem | 3) If error occurs do the same as #2 | 21:07 |
| xgerman | and for 1.0 we chnage #2 | 21:08 |
| xgerman | sounds good to me | 21:08 |
| jorgem | and 3 | 21:08 |
| jorgem | yes | 21:08 |
| jorgem | for 1.0 we will have a "Task/Event" table that will hold the ERROR info | 21:08 |
| xgerman | well, then wew do the recoverable/non-recoverable error game | 21:08 |
| jorgem | for 0.5 we don't, for 1.0 customer will see the task/event table via the API somehow and leave the decision up to them | 21:09 |
| jorgem | obviously we can discuss that route in more detail later | 21:09 |
| jorgem | which is why I don't think we should do it now == more time | 21:09 |
| xgerman | yeah, I think we know enough for now :-) | 21:10 |
| jorgem | sweet | 21:10 |
| johnsom | I think I am ok with the happy path for v0.5 and fix for 1.0 | 21:10 |
| jorgem | k, updates to my spec coming in the next 30 minutes | 21:10 |
| jorgem | thanks guys | 21:10 |
| xgerman | thank you! | 21:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jorge Miramontes proposed stackforge/octavia: Queue Consumer Specification https://review.openstack.org/147699 | 21:28 |
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| jorgem | xgerman: johnsom^^ | 21:33 |
| xgerman | yep, will have a look ;-) | 21:34 |
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| jorgem | thx | 21:41 |
| xgerman | blogan, reading through jorge's document the database now basically hast the state the system is in instead of the desired state... I though the api you wrote was writing the desired state into the DB | 21:46 |
| xgerman | juts trying to clarify | 21:46 |
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| jorgem | xgerman: That is correct. The desired state will only be persisted once the deploy worker completes successfully | 22:28 |
| jorgem | It kind of makes sense too | 22:28 |
| jorgem | from a user's perspective | 22:28 |
| xgerman | yeah, absolutely. I was more worried that our existing code didn't do it that way | 22:29 |
| xgerman | mainly blogan's api code | 22:29 |
| jorgem | ah I'll confirm with Brandon. He's off whiteboarding somewhere | 22:29 |
| xgerman | cool -- thanks | 22:30 |
| blogan | xgerman: yes that api code needs to be changed, i was going to get Carlos to just add that in his spec, or if preferred I can do it pretty quickly | 22:33 |
| xgerman | just wanted to make sure we are all on the same page | 22:34 |
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| blogan | xgerman: sounds like we are | 22:38 |
| xgerman | yep, violent agreement | 22:39 |
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| blogan | i see no violence | 22:44 |
| blogan | xgerman are you about to break a bottle and start stabbing in agreement? | 22:47 |
| xgerman | I was about to sacrifice a goat... | 22:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Jorge Miramontes proposed stackforge/octavia: Queue Consumer Specification https://review.openstack.org/147699 | 22:54 |
| jorgem | xgerman: all done | 22:56 |
| xgerman | +2'd | 22:57 |
| jorgem | sweetness | 22:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/octavia: Queue Consumer Specification https://review.openstack.org/147699 | 23:08 |
| jorgem | I'm all grown up now :) | 23:11 |
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