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| rm_work | hmm, nothing interesting today | 13:01 |
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| ptoohill_ | :/ | 13:11 |
| ptoohill_ | well, we have our adv svc talks/sessions | 13:11 |
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| rm_work | didn't see anything useful in designs | 14:30 |
| rm_work | maybe talks… but i can't watch those till they go up on youtube later | 14:31 |
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| rm_work | whelp, heading to the dentist, your "productive" day is almost over, right? :P | 15:21 |
| rm_work | i'll be on later but I expect everyone will be partying | 15:21 |
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| blogan_mobile | rm_work: hey | 17:24 |
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| henriquer | rm_work: Thank you for answering my question yesterday, I was only able to check it today. | 17:35 |
| TrevorV | blogan_mobile adam will be back online later | 17:35 |
| rm_mobile | Yeah, still at dentist | 17:37 |
| TrevorV | By which he means the "dentist"... you know... | 17:37 |
| rm_mobile | Heh | 17:38 |
| rm_mobile | They're figuring out my insurance | 17:39 |
| rm_mobile | And telling me I need to floss more | 17:40 |
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| TrevorV | ... I don't think I've flossed ever. | 17:46 |
| TrevorV | Always felt weird to me to floss. Oh well, probably should | 17:46 |
| dougwig | Your dentist must love you. Time for a new beach house! | 17:49 |
| TrevorV | who me dougwig ? | 17:49 |
| TrevorV | my dentist is my aunt, and I can't say I've ever been charged by her :) | 17:49 |
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| rm_work | so blogan is gone for the day by now I assum,e | 19:20 |
| blogan | i am back | 20:09 |
| blogan | rm_work ^ | 20:09 |
| rm_work | yo | 20:09 |
| rm_work | back from partying early? :P | 20:09 |
| blogan | whats up | 20:09 |
| blogan | nah didnt go to the party tonight | 20:09 |
| blogan | just out to eat | 20:09 |
| rm_work | blogan: so, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132578/ | 20:09 |
| blogan | you been busy eh? | 20:10 |
| rm_work | blogan: for anything like that to work, our public-facing (Operator? >_>) API needs to be able to take in EITHER a "container_id" that links to whatever storage mechanism we use, *or* the raw certificate data | 20:10 |
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| blogan | okay | 20:10 |
| rm_work | because there's no way anyone could get their data into a local system, other than through our API | 20:10 |
| rm_work | blogan: so, we'll just have to accept both, and reject their request if it contains a bad combination, I guess? | 20:11 |
| rm_work | but if we accept both, then we're going to be in the business of storing people's cert data in barbican on our own account | 20:11 |
| rm_work | which is fine | 20:11 |
| blogan | yeah we can do that | 20:11 |
| rm_work | but just noting that it'll change it to be two different options | 20:12 |
| blogan | i mean we can do the api validation | 20:12 |
| rm_work | EITHER they set it up in barbican first, or they're lazy and just pass it directly to us | 20:12 |
| blogan | isn't that a shadow copy that no one wanted? | 20:12 |
| rm_work | no | 20:12 |
| blogan | well if they proivde the cert data then its not a copy | 20:12 |
| rm_work | because there's no "original" in storage that we're aware of | 20:12 |
| rm_work | yeah | 20:12 |
| blogan | yeah | 20:12 |
| blogan | so we'll need to either retreive from barbican or store it? | 20:12 |
| rm_work | yes | 20:13 |
| rm_work | if it's in barbican, we verify it and just store the ID | 20:13 |
| rm_work | if they passed us raw data, we verify it and store it in barbican, and then store the ID | 20:13 |
| rm_work | I updated the seqdiagrams actually | 20:13 |
| blogan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121233/14/octavia/api/v1/types/listener.py | 20:13 |
| blogan | doesn't have either | 20:13 |
| rm_work | http://docs.octavia.io/review/130659/specs/version0.5/tls-data-security.html | 20:13 |
| rm_work | diagram #1 | 20:13 |
| rm_work | now has "if Certificate is <c>" | 20:14 |
| blogan | love that octavia.io | 20:14 |
| blogan | we should give phil a cigarette for that | 20:14 |
| rm_work | yeah it is immediately handy | 20:14 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:14 |
| rm_work | I should give Phil a vape for that :P | 20:14 |
| rm_work | ptoohill_: I think I've asked you before if you've ever used a vaporizer instead of actually smoking cigs, don't remember if you had | 20:15 |
| blogan | so why the switch to allow raw cert? | 20:15 |
| rm_work | it's better for ya :P | 20:15 |
| rm_work | blogan: as I was saying, in order to implement any kind of local-storage driver, or possibly certain other keystores, the user won't have access to the storage mechanism outside of our system | 20:16 |
| ptoohill_ | I have not | 20:16 |
| rm_work | ptoohill_: I'll get some decent liquid in mine and let you try it | 20:17 |
| rm_work | mine... does not actually have any nicotine :P | 20:17 |
| ptoohill_ | adam made it actually useful, honestly everything changed so i really did nothing with that | 20:17 |
| blogan | ah okay, makes sense | 20:17 |
| rm_work | ptoohill_: pfft, i just cleaned up the code and fixed some bugs | 20:17 |
| rm_work | it's the same core idea still :P | 20:18 |
| ptoohill_ | which means everything changed :P | 20:18 |
| rm_work | and I only did it because I was bored and you were getting on a plane and couldn't, lol | 20:18 |
| blogan | rm_work: i do hate having to add an api field for testing purposes though, but i suppose it doesn't have to be just for testing, just for incredibly insecure storage | 20:18 |
| rm_work | blogan: or another provider that the user might not necessarily have access to | 20:18 |
| blogan | true | 20:18 |
| rm_work | blogan: for instance, if Barbican was still internal-only at our launch | 20:19 |
| rm_work | like we were afraid it might be | 20:19 |
| rm_work | or for other deployers who don't expose Secret as a Service (Barbican / etc) | 20:19 |
| blogan | okay im convinced | 20:19 |
| rm_work | but will run it internally | 20:19 |
| rm_work | :P | 20:19 |
| rm_work | oh, I made Dev2 BTW :) | 20:20 |
| blogan | congrats! | 20:20 |
| rm_work | now I won't be able to nag jorgem about it tho >_> | 20:20 |
| rm_work | that's almost disappointing | 20:20 |
| blogan | you can still nag him | 20:20 |
| blogan | its what his job is about | 20:21 |
| rm_work | :P | 20:21 |
| blogan | i made dev2 as well | 20:21 |
| blogan | ! | 20:21 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:21 |
| dougwig | we should write a Service as a Service for the new Services group. | 20:21 |
| blogan | also ceo, but thats insider trading | 20:21 |
| rm_work | dougwig: good plan | 20:21 |
| rm_work | dougwig: how abstract can we get, do you think? :P | 20:21 |
| blogan | we should write hotboxing as a service, and dougwig will be the implementation | 20:22 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:22 |
| ptoohill_ | congrats rm_work! | 20:22 |
| rm_work | oh, right, so, if you guys sit down and do any reviews (like maybe if there's not much going around the conference at any point): | 20:22 |
| rm_work | TLS Data Security: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130659/ | 20:22 |
| rm_work | Support for Certificate Data handling: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131889/ | 20:22 |
| rm_work | Insecure (local fs) implementation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132578/ | 20:22 |
| rm_work | Barbican implementation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132580/ | 20:22 |
| rm_work | ptoohill_: thanks :) | 20:22 |
| blogan | i may attempt to tonight | 20:23 |
| blogan | this will be a good test on dougwig's theory that i always give -1's on first review | 20:23 |
| dougwig | blogan: if it makes you feel better, i made a fool out of myself cackling like a madman as i rounded the corner into someone. | 20:23 |
| rm_work | someone on cloudcafe stole 132579 >_> | 20:23 |
| blogan | dougwig: if it makes you feel any better, a woman got in the elevator exactly where you were standing on the next floor and rode the elevator up with me | 20:24 |
| blogan | cloudcafe stole 132579? | 20:24 |
| rm_work | yeah | 20:24 |
| blogan | how? they copied the change-id? | 20:25 |
| rm_work | I submitted both reviews at the same time but they got the middle review # | 20:25 |
| blogan | oh nvm | 20:25 |
| blogan | you wanted the sequence | 20:25 |
| rm_work | yeah :P | 20:25 |
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| rm_work | busy watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwAedB1jiYQ now | 20:30 |
| ptoohill_ | oh dear | 20:30 |
| ptoohill_ | whered that come from | 20:30 |
| ptoohill_ | That should never have been seen again | 20:30 |
| rm_work | looks like a decent crowd :) | 20:31 |
| ptoohill_ | it was | 20:31 |
| ptoohill_ | was nervous | 20:32 |
| ptoohill_ | i choked so much, hahah | 20:32 |
| ptoohill_ | so bad | 20:32 |
| ptoohill_ | turning this off and deleting this from their account | 20:33 |
| rm_work | LOL audience plant | 20:33 |
| rm_work | calling on sbalukoff... pfft | 20:33 |
| ptoohill_ | AND Vivek | 20:33 |
| ptoohill_ | skip to the 13 min mark | 20:34 |
| ptoohill_ | :) | 20:34 |
| rm_work | heh "The first thing we fixed was to create a LoadBalancer root object" | 20:35 |
| rm_work | hahahaha | 20:35 |
| rm_work | that was practically a civil war | 20:35 |
| ptoohill_ | :P | 20:35 |
| rm_work | HEY, 13m would be past your part T_T | 20:37 |
| ptoohill_ | oh, so sam only 7 mins, no wonder :P | 20:38 |
| rm_work | not gonna get away with your shenanigans :P | 20:38 |
| ptoohill_ | EXACTLY | 20:38 |
| ptoohill_ | DAMMIT | 20:38 |
| blogan | why is this recorded, i don't want to see this | 20:38 |
| ptoohill_ | SERIOUSLY | 20:38 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:38 |
| ptoohill_ | Hack into their account, pls | 20:39 |
| rm_work | I am enjoying myself immensely :P | 20:39 |
| ptoohill_ | >< | 20:39 |
| rm_work | yes, only slightly obvious that you were nervous | 20:39 |
| ptoohill_ | >< | 20:40 |
| ptoohill_ | Thats all a blur | 20:40 |
| blogan | 15:12 dougwig almost dropps an f bomb | 20:41 |
| ptoohill_ | yea, hahaha | 20:41 |
| jorgem | oh hey there gents | 20:41 |
| ptoohill_ | heyo | 20:41 |
| blogan | look who it is | 20:41 |
| jorgem | parlevou francais? | 20:41 |
| jorgem | we? | 20:41 |
| ptoohill_ | NO | 20:42 |
| ptoohill_ | :P | 20:42 |
| blogan | oui | 20:42 |
| jorgem | oh yeoui | 20:42 |
| jorgem | oui | 20:42 |
| blogan | i sound like kermit the frog | 20:42 |
| rm_work | so. Tacker. | 20:43 |
| blogan | yes tacker | 20:43 |
| rm_work | do we ditch all the lifecycle management stuff we were doing? :P | 20:43 |
| rm_work | does Tacker serve that purpose? | 20:43 |
| blogan | need to look at it more | 20:44 |
| blogan | some guy suggested looking into heat as well which i don't think is a good idea | 20:44 |
| rm_work | uhhh lolwut no | 20:44 |
| rm_work | Heat would not be especially helpful? | 20:44 |
| rm_work | sorry, that was not meant to be a question | 20:45 |
| rm_work | ooo, Octavia meeting in 15 min | 20:45 |
| ptoohill_ | :P | 20:45 |
| ptoohill_ | in -alt right? | 20:45 |
| rm_work | yep | 20:45 |
| rm_work | doubt anyone will show up :P | 20:46 |
| TrevorV | by -alt you mean a bar in paris, yes. | 20:46 |
| ptoohill_ | :) | 20:46 |
| rm_work | yeah you guys should definitely hold the meeting. in a pub. | 20:46 |
| ptoohill_ | heh | 20:46 |
| ptoohill_ | think most of us are in rooms already | 20:46 |
| blogan | its canceled | 20:46 |
| ptoohill_ | oh | 20:46 |
| rm_work | <_< damnit blogan | 20:46 |
| TrevorV | blogan is against drinking | 20:46 |
| blogan | i drank a glass of wine last night | 20:47 |
| rm_work | ALL FUN CANCELLED, THANKS BLOGAN | 20:47 |
| ptoohill_ | i got him to drink a small/tiny glass of wine | 20:47 |
| ptoohill_ | heh | 20:47 |
| TrevorV | blogan is probably a cryer when drunk | 20:47 |
| blogan | im a happy drunk actually | 20:47 |
| blogan | and quite a social drunk | 20:47 |
| ptoohill_ | +2 | 20:47 |
| blogan | which is why i should get wasted before a talk | 20:47 |
| TrevorV | You can be social and cry | 20:47 |
| ptoohill_ | I think i gave 85 fist bumps last night after 11pm | 20:47 |
| TrevorV | I have stories to tell about New Orleans when you guys get back, fo drizzle | 20:48 |
| ptoohill_ | to random people | 20:48 |
| rm_work | :P | 20:48 |
| blogan | hp's party last night will never be topped i don't think | 20:48 |
| ptoohill_ | was a blast | 20:48 |
| TrevorV | Sounds fun :) | 20:48 |
| rm_work | yeah I heard it was good | 20:48 |
| rm_work | of course now HP has to top it next summit | 20:48 |
| ptoohill_ | Just mute this prior to watch… there was def beer involved | 20:49 |
| ptoohill_ | http://youtu.be/hW9TqBbuK2k?list=UU8DE1SskRqI-TcGEC8eus2w | 20:49 |
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| ptoohill_ | :) | 20:50 |
| ptoohill_ | Notice the cheater getting carried by his colleges | 20:51 |
| dougwig | ow, that was painful to watch. | 20:51 |
| ptoohill_ | heh | 20:51 |
| dougwig | (my part; i skipped everyone else's) | 20:51 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:51 |
| ptoohill_ | :P | 20:51 |
| rm_work | oh hey sbalukoff has a barbican shirt too :P | 20:52 |
| ptoohill_ | haha | 20:52 |
| TrevorV | That's a funny video :) | 20:53 |
| rm_work | how does one cheat? :P | 20:53 |
| ptoohill_ | was letting others pedal | 20:53 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:53 |
| ptoohill_ | its not automagic | 20:53 |
| ptoohill_ | required manpower | 20:54 |
| ptoohill_ | :P | 20:54 |
| ptoohill_ | supposed imgur was blowing up with photos if you guys want to see more of the venue | 20:55 |
| TrevorV | I went to a carousel bar in New Orleans | 20:55 |
| ptoohill_ | awesome | 20:55 |
| ptoohill_ | man powered? | 20:55 |
| TrevorV | The bar was in constant spinning motion... Slowly, but spun. | 20:55 |
| ptoohill_ | oh | 20:55 |
| ptoohill_ | derp | 20:55 |
| TrevorV | Nope, automagic | 20:55 |
| ptoohill_ | so like the tower kinda? | 20:55 |
| TrevorV | Do not suggest when drunk | 20:55 |
| ptoohill_ | haha | 20:56 |
| ptoohill_ | thats best time to do dumb things | 20:56 |
| TrevorV | Well a spinning bar isn't all that dumb... just sitting on it while you're already uneasy is dumb :P | 20:57 |
| TrevorV | It was also a cougar bar, which was interesting in and of itself | 20:57 |
| ptoohill_ | they liked em young? | 20:57 |
| TrevorV | Apparently | 20:58 |
| ptoohill_ | :P | 20:58 |
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| johnsom | Did we have an Octavia meeting today? | 21:11 |
| dougwig | no, it is canceled. | 21:14 |
| johnsom | Ok. I had the meeting down without the UTC component, so thought I missed it. | 21:14 |
| TrevorV | nah its not going johnsom | 21:14 |
| TrevorV | Though I did just add a comment to your newest review | 21:15 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I noticed that too. I'm not sure how that ended up on the review. I checked out head, created a local branch. Any idea how that happened? | 21:15 |
| TrevorV | I'm not entirely sure. As far as I know you'd have to be on that review branch and then do a commit | 21:16 |
| TrevorV | You might have needed to checkout "master" specifically and then make your changes and push a new commit | 21:16 |
| dougwig | your first WIP! | 21:16 |
| rm_work | johnsom: i feel like the same thing happened to me | 21:16 |
| johnsom | Well, I had the spec before | 21:17 |
| rm_work | mine ended up on his review somehow | 21:17 |
| rm_work | instead of HEAD | 21:17 |
| johnsom | Ok, I will attempt to undo that dependency this afternoon. | 21:17 |
| TrevorV | Sure thing | 21:17 |
| TrevorV | Don't forget to update the octavia prioritized reviews etherpad | 21:18 |
| TrevorV | It helps me find everything that's pending really quickly | 21:18 |
| johnsom | FYI, it will build an ubuntu image with the defaults. I haven't put much testing into it yet. It certainly isn't tuned for our needs yet either. | 21:18 |
| johnsom | Yeah, It's WIP, review if you want, but don't spend time that could be used to review others that are not WIP. | 21:19 |
| TrevorV | Sure thing | 21:20 |
| blogan | TrevorV: if you just go here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/octavia,n,z | 21:30 |
| blogan | you'll have everything pending | 21:30 |
| TrevorV | yes, but not prioritized my man blogan | 21:30 |
| blogan | johnsom: thats the point of a WIP, reviewers shouldn't be nit picky, just comment if the structure and direction is flawed | 21:31 |
| blogan | johnsom: glad you got it up, hopefully Ill have time to look at it | 21:31 |
| johnsom | I understand that. I'm not sure everyone does... | 21:32 |
| TrevorV | blogan phrasing bro | 21:32 |
| blogan | TrevorV: just review everything thats open and not a WIP, once that is done your free to do WIPs | 21:32 |
| TrevorV | blogan you anywhere near susanne right now? | 21:33 |
| blogan | i liked my phrasing | 21:33 |
| blogan | no im in my room, its 1030 | 21:33 |
| TrevorV | Damnit | 21:33 |
| TrevorV | She reviewed something of mine and I think got confused about something | 21:33 |
| TrevorV | Now I'm concerned ha ha | 21:33 |
| TrevorV | Oh well, wait til tomorrow I guess | 21:33 |
| blogan | oh i saw it, you responded correctly | 21:34 |
| TrevorV | Yeah? I thought so :) | 21:34 |
| TrevorV | Just wanted to make sure she understood | 21:34 |
| johnsom | Hmm, everyone's current reviews depends on Al's. Maybe this is the way it is supposed to be. Like the git log.... | 21:35 |
| blogan | is Al's right below yours in the git log? | 21:36 |
| johnsom | Yes | 21:37 |
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| blogan | Al's is merged | 21:37 |
| blogan | so you're dependent on master now, so you're good | 21:37 |
| johnsom | Ok, cool. | 21:38 |
| blogan | sballe: TrevorV requested you | 21:38 |
| rm_work | lol dougwig said the code is there now to play around with TLS and such :P | 21:38 |
| rm_work | none of that will work at all ATM I believe <_< | 21:38 |
| sballe | ok | 21:39 |
| sballe | blogan: Just got back from dinner | 21:39 |
| ptoohill_ | rm_work, think he meant in reviews | 21:39 |
| ptoohill_ | Which is correct | 21:39 |
| johnsom | I was trying to figure out how I could have ended up with a dependency on my review because it was a very simple check in and I didn't pull anything out of gerrit | 21:39 |
| rm_work | ptoohill_: err, the code in the CRs for TLS is totally broken | 21:39 |
| rm_work | lol | 21:39 |
| blogan | rm_work: oh well | 21:39 |
| ptoohill_ | while it may not be complete it can be played with | 21:39 |
| rm_work | it actually won't compile at the moment >_> | 21:40 |
| ptoohill_ | oh | 21:40 |
| blogan | it can be played with with the noop logging driver! | 21:40 |
| rm_work | or, you know what I mean | 21:40 |
| blogan | actually nvm | 21:40 |
| blogan | it cant be bc its not in the API at that point | 21:40 |
| rm_work | lol no it can't because the interface isn't broken | 21:40 |
| ptoohill_ | didnt know it was that broken | 21:40 |
| rm_work | err, is broken | 21:40 |
| rm_work | lol | 21:40 |
| blogan | yeah its broken | 21:40 |
| rm_work | yeah i basically abandoned it when we switched to Octavia | 21:40 |
| blogan | won't work without barbican | 21:40 |
| rm_work | yep | 21:40 |
| ptoohill_ | true | 21:40 |
| blogan | well we could just pass it directly to the driver | 21:41 |
| rm_work | and that layer isn't actually implemented properly right now | 21:41 |
| rm_work | because stuff changed | 21:41 |
| blogan | until barbican is complete | 21:41 |
| blogan | if people really wanted to play wtih it | 21:41 |
| ptoohill_ | what is 'it'? | 21:41 |
| blogan | nvm | 21:41 |
| blogan | we require container_id only | 21:41 |
| ptoohill_ | yea, need to fetch something | 21:41 |
| rm_work | ha, just got to the "do you have a dongle" part | 21:43 |
| ptoohill_ | youre still watching that? :P | 21:43 |
| rm_work | i had to pause for a bit | 21:43 |
| TrevorV | sorry sballe you around? | 21:46 |
| TrevorV | sballe I'm leaving for home to beat traffic in this bad weather, I'll jump back on when I get there and see if you're around | 21:48 |
| TrevorV | Sorry! | 21:48 |
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| sballe | TrevorV: No problem. Over here it is bed time. Talk to you tomorrow? | 21:51 |
| blogan | i don't know how the "le" sound got added in | 21:51 |
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| TrevorV_ | sballe you around? | 22:58 |
| TrevorV_ | Its all good, I'll catch her tomorrow hopefully :) | 23:00 |
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| jorgem | I think she's partying :) | 23:24 |
| jorgem | but most likely asleep | 23:25 |
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