Tuesday, 2014-09-30

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bloganping dougwig00:00
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dougwigAck00:05
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dougwigblogan: here00:22
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blogandougwig: sorry got pulled away01:22
dougwigno worries.01:23
dougwigwhat's up?01:24
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bloganin the openstack/common/middleware package01:30
blogandid the oslo incubator installer automatically change the deprecated in_favor_of to "octavia.middleware.CatchErrors"01:31
bloganhttps://github.com/stackforge/octavia/blob/master/octavia/openstack/common/middleware/catch_errors.py#L3501:32
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dougwigyes02:06
dougwigit had entirely more magic than i liked for a python lib02:06
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blogandougwig: yeah it should have stayed oslo.middleware02:47
bloganoh well02:47
dougwigsame thing happened in the neutron code, so i was guessing it was intentional.02:47
bloganoh yeah didn't even think to look at that02:48
dougwigblogan: you want me to deal with the migration nits on the plugin review?03:04
dougwigi'm fine with helping out there, to minimize the octavia distractions.03:04
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* maishsk says hello08:14
maishskAnyone around?08:14
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maishskenikanorov: Hi - are you around?12:03
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ptoohillmornin'14:37
sballemorning14:37
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blogandougwig: ill deal with them, i meant to last week but forgot sorry16:02
dougwigno worries.16:02
blogani feel like there was a reason I didnt do the foreign key constraint though16:11
bloganbut i can't remember hwy16:11
bloganwhy16:11
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dougwigbecause you hate joy and happiness and peace on earth?16:24
bloganwho doesn't?16:24
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dougwigTime to change that password18:25
rm_workxhunterx?18:27
rm_workerr, damnit, hunter218:27
blogandougwig: I don't have the rebase button in gerrit for these branches becaue you own them :(18:33
blogani have to do it manually now...woe i sme18:34
rm_workcan just tell dougwig to press it for you :P18:34
dougwigI'll do it.  I have button, until you reclaim.18:34
rm_workactually, can dougwig pass CR ownership?18:34
dougwigYou just have to upload with same change is18:35
dougwigI'd18:35
rm_workno18:35
rm_workthat changes the current author, but not the owner18:35
rm_workstill can't rebase/abandon/etc18:35
rm_workI had that problem on the old TLS review18:35
rm_workand I was hoping you could transfer ownership of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123492/ to me somehow so I don't continue to have that problem :P18:36
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bloganyep18:39
bloganrm_work is right18:39
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blogandougwig: may as well wait for the rebase until the db migration review gets approved18:49
bloganin case another rebase is needed18:49
dougwigThat's what I've been waiting on.  I'm only keeping on up the chain current18:51
dougwigOne, not on18:52
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bloganoh okay18:52
bloganglad i can look at brocade's CI logs18:53
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dougwigblogan: can you not?19:25
bloganno19:25
dougwigand dang, i thought i'd seen owner flip before a bunch of times.  i wouldn't have submitted them all if i'd known.19:25
dougwigi'll ping the owner, but it's not voting, so it shouldn't block anything.19:28
bloganyeah i know19:28
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maishskcan anyone help me out with a lbaas and netscaler question?19:29
rm_workwho maintains the netscaler driver?19:29
maishskI have no idea19:29
rm_workhmm19:29
bloganwasn't it yousef?19:30
dougwigwhat's the question?  if it's super specific to netscaler, i don't think anyone here will know the answer.19:31
maishskYoucef Laribi - was the user who created the wiki page19:32
maishskdougwig: it is quite specific to netscaler19:32
bloganah yeah, i misspelled his name, good thing he's not in here to shame me19:32
maishskfrom what I see in the driver it connects to something called an NCC (Netscaler Control Center)19:33
maishskwhat the heck is that?19:33
dougwigi'd suggest contacting the maintainer directly: http://stackalytics.com/driverlog/?project_id=openstack%2Fneutron&vendor=&release_id=19:33
bloganmaishsk: i think you'd get a better and faster answer if you emailed him directly, alternatively you could email the ML but not sure how much Youcef pays attention to it19:33
bloganmaishsk: i do not know that answer either19:33
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maishskblogan: thanks - will do19:34
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sballedougwig: blogan I looked at this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics and was wondering if we had a blueprint or a spec to attach to the sessions we are proposing?19:39
sballeI am wonderign if that would increase our chances to be picked and get a slot19:40
blogansballe: not for the one I put in about drivers without DB access19:40
blogandougwig is probably gonig to put in one for LBaaS UDP19:41
blogansince he loves it19:41
dougwigwe don't, nor do i think any of the lbaas topics are contentious enough to warrant a session.  maybe if we added something about lbaasv2/octavia/flavors integration we're starting to get close to enough argument.19:41
bloganand there are two LBaaS Incubator topics there but they're not moot19:41
dougwigUDP is an under-rated protocol.19:41
bloganmind if i take out the LBaaS v2 incubator ones?19:42
dougwigdo it.19:42
sballeYeah incubator is dead now19:43
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blogani changed one to feature branch adn path to kilo, but that doesnt sound like a design session19:43
sballeI thought rm_work had a spec for the: LBaaSv2 - TLS19:44
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rm_workyeah, but is that re: design sessions? because I got the boot for the summit :/19:45
sballeDo we know what criteria is going to be used to select sessions? We need some time to discuss topics and I just assumed it would happen during the summit sessions.19:46
sballerm_work: It says on the etherpad that I am assuming you proposed a session around LBaaS v2 TLS. I just notice that some folks put specs next to the session topic. I am assuming maybe wrongly that that would give it a better change to be selected19:48
rm_workwell, Rackspace decided they can afford to spend the $1000 on cancellation fees for my ticket and hotel reservations but can't actually afford to send me to the conference... <_<19:49
rm_worknot sure whose session that is then19:49
rm_workI was working on slides but I dropped that a bit ago19:50
sballerm_work: Sorry to hear that you won't be there.19:50
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rm_workI can provide what I have though to whoever is running it maybe? if I still have those files...19:50
rm_workmight have to piece something together again\19:50
rm_workI mean, there's the CR that's up with the stubs19:50
rm_worknot sure how up-to-date the BP behind it is, Evgeny was managing that I think19:51
rm_workhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/SSL19:51
rm_workhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-ssl-termination19:51
sballeMaybe Evgeny is going to Paris19:52
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rm_workuhh so, question22:32
rm_workI don't know much about the infrastructure of openstack in actual deployments -- is it a problem to have a hard-dependency on Keystone API v3?22:32
rm_worksbalukoff: ^^22:32
rm_worksballe: ^^22:32
rm_workdougwig: ^^22:32
rm_workjkoelker: ^^22:32
rm_workdoes everyone actually have keystone v3 deployed and enabled?22:33
rm_workall the configs I have seen still seem to reference v2.0 mostly, but I don't know if that's just because it's a local / outdated setup22:33
dougwigour private cloud here is vanilla icehouse and looks to be using v122:35
rm_workuhh22:35
rm_worki did not know keystone v1 was actually... a thing22:35
rm_workwell anyway, if we rely on Trusts we will be introducing a hard-dependency on keystone identity v322:35
dougwigsorry, v2.022:35
rm_workis that going to be "a problem"22:36
dougwigdo we have a realistic choice to not rely on trusts?22:36
rm_workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9kJ6IJnBz022:36
rm_workdougwig: not really22:36
rm_workwell22:36
rm_workMAYBE22:36
rm_workbut it's hacky and gross22:36
dougwigi just added that question to the lbaas meeting agenda.  might also want to add it to the octavia agenda.22:39
rm_workwell, Octavia won't need to use Trusts, so22:39
rm_workit shouldn't matter22:39
dougwigoh, we're duplicating the cert?  blech, but ok.22:40
rm_workright, because Octavia is an appliance22:41
rm_workit has its own internal cert storage mechanism (Barbican)22:41
rm_workpretend the outside world doesn't exist22:41
rm_workit's easier to think about that way22:41
rm_workwe COULD require all drivers to take a Barbican Container ID instead of cert info, but then every driver would essentially have to duplicate the same code to talk to Barbican and pull out the data using trusts, which is a bit insane22:42
rm_workbecause all of the existing appliances are definitely using their own internal keystores and aren't going to be able to handle Barbican IDs >_>22:43
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dougwigno, let's not invite all the bugs of duplicating the barbican interaction.22:47
dougwigand i would *never* steal secrets and stash them for my own use.  never.  nope.  not me.  um.22:48
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rm_worklol23:25
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