Tuesday, 2014-09-23

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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/octavia: Added Operator API spec for Octavia v0.5  https://review.openstack.org/12233804:47
bloganyeah boi!04:49
sbalukoffWoot!04:50
bloganmaster plan has begun04:50
sbalukoffblogan: When do I get my illuminati card?04:51
blogancheck your pocket04:51
sbalukoffI hear there are some sweet discounts at the snack bar.04:51
sbalukoffOoh! Sneaky!04:51
* blogan throws his smoke bomb and disappears04:51
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bloganmagic04:52
sbalukoffHeh!04:52
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed a change to stackforge/octavia: Adding initial glossary of terms  https://review.openstack.org/12231405:01
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed a change to stackforge/octavia: Adding initial glossary of terms  https://review.openstack.org/12231406:05
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed a change to stackforge/octavia: Adding initial glossary of terms  https://review.openstack.org/12231406:08
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IZebraHi all, is there anyone here?15:05
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dougwigi'm here, what's up?15:17
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*** dougwig changes topic to "LBaaS and Octavia reviews - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas_reviews"15:18
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blogangood day!15:52
dougwigmorning16:00
dougwigi think i've got all of your reviews moved to the feature branch.  see the wiki above.  i'm working on the tls/l7 stuff now, drivers after that.16:00
bloganoh you were doing that?16:05
bloganthose look like all of them, other than other drivers16:06
dougwigyeah, i'm almost done.  you can reclaim on the next change.16:09
dougwigalembic needed tweaking everywhere.  otherwise it's been mechanical16:09
bloganhow so?16:10
dougwigno more conditional migrations, and had to unbranch the first one.16:12
bloganoh okay what ann commented on16:13
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dougwiglet me get l7 up, then i'm going to drive into the office.  i'll do the drivers after some meetings.16:23
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markmcclaindougwig: thanks for reprosing the patches to the feature branch16:49
markmcclains/reprosing/reproposing/16:49
dougwignp, it was a good learning experience.16:50
bloganis it essentially just git review feature/branch16:50
bloganor soemthing like that?16:50
bloganor do I need the learning experience as well16:51
dougwigno, it easier than that.  let me put it in our wiki.16:54
dougwigbasically just:16:54
dougwiggit checkout feature/lbaasv216:55
dougwig(note the lack of a -b, so it'll track remote).16:55
bloganyeah16:55
dougwigthen the .gitreview inside that branch will get things to the right place, so you can treat that as master.16:55
bloganah16:55
bloganthat is easy16:55
bloganand better than the other way16:55
bloganwho is in charge of rebasing the branch with master then?16:56
bloganand when should that happen16:56
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dougwigany of us, and that's up to us.  it's just another gerrit review, as far as the the repo is concerned.16:57
bloganwell i can see how changes in master could drastically affect this feature branch16:57
bloganso we'll have to be very careful16:58
dougwigi think it should be at least weekly.  the faster we merge master, the faster we get CI feedback if some interface we need gets changed/broken.16:58
dougwigexactly.  the weakest link here is that if master breaks, we're now in a position to have to fix master, instead of the review being blocked by CI before it gets into master.  if that was coherent, this early.16:59
bloganwe'll have to discuss it more, i got a long meeting now16:59
dougwigok.  was planning a few agenda items around this at thursday's meeting.17:00
markmcclainyeah… for now hold off on the master rebasing17:01
markmcclainfortunately with the freeze for juno and the early kilo work should avoid any big surprises17:01
dougwigmarkmcclain: it's a good thing there isn't a massive api refactor happening while we live on this branch.  oh, wait.  :)17:02
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markmcclaindougwig: my plan with that is coordinate with you all17:03
dougwigall, the reviews on the feature branch are up.  please give at least the first one (plugin/db additions) some love: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas_reviews17:03
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dougwigmarkmcclain: ok.  and i was thinking of adding a job to my 3rd party CI to get master, then our branch, then test, on every review to master.  probably not comment anywhere, until we see if merge conflicts are going to be a common thing.17:06
markmcclainthat's fine for testing… I just don't want to have lots of merges for a bit17:07
dougwigagreed, it's just to keep an eye on things.17:08
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TrevorVI dropped the ball so hard on the meeting minutes... I just updated them to the basic info of full transcript / meeting minutes in the wiki.  Sorry sbalukoff19:49
dougwigi demand a refund of all monies paid to you.19:49
* TrevorV is dragged unwillingly to the stocks19:50
sbalukoffTrevorV: Eh... life can get busy, eh.20:05
TrevorVtis true sbalukoff.  Not sure its a valid excuse for something so simple though o_020:06
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johnsom_sbalukoff - What restructured text spec/reference are you using?  I haven't seen glossary before and http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/directives.html doesn't have it.20:09
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johnsom_Any rst pointers you have would be cool20:09
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blogansbalukoff: I'd like to add an item to the meeting agenda tomorrow20:20
roharablogan: i made some good progress on the octavia client, next i need to stub out the subcommands. thoughts on what subcommands to define? might be easily derived from a doc i'm not finding atm20:25
sbalukoffblogan: Go head!20:27
sbalukoffahead!20:28
sbalukoffI'll be updating the agenda later today.20:28
sbalukoffjohnsom_: I've mostly been using google when trying to figure out how to do something new. Otherwise, I'm copying structure I see elsewhere. In any case, though, running tox will help you know both whether the docs you write pass pep8, and what the resultant generated html docs look like.20:30
johnsom_sbalukoff - ok, thanks.  I was hoping to find other goodies I didn't know about in rst20:31
dougwigrohara: i'd suggest starting with the lbaas v2 syntax, modified to fit the object model in octavia.20:31
sbalukoffjohnsom_: It's not a very involved markup language.20:31
sbalukoffdougwig: +120:31
bloganrohara: you can go off of this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122338/20:37
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed a change to stackforge/octavia: Initial creation of repository classes and tests  https://review.openstack.org/12092720:37
blogansbalukoff: Neutron lbaas v1 and v2 right now creates a neutron port before passing any control to the driver, we need to decide how Octavia is going to handle that20:38
roharadougwig, blogan: thanks. that is what i was looking for20:40
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sbfoxHey lbass folks, what hardware load balancers are currently support in Icehouse. Sometimes its hard to determine the state of a driver20:58
blogansbfox: i don't know of any hardware load balancers being supported even now, but it could be my ignorance21:00
dougwigsbfox: netscaler, radware in tree, a10 (pip install a10-openstack-lbaas) and f5 (private) with out of tree drivers21:02
sbfoxPerfect, thanks for the answers21:03
bloganthanks dougwig for showing my ignorance, i just assumed netscaler, radware, and a10 were software load balancers21:16
xgermanthey are to some degree but you buy the software as part of a box21:16
dougwigthey also all have both software and hardware products, so the line gets blurry.   but if you want an absurd number of cores, fpga's, and ssl chips, paired with hardware HA, i'm gonna call that a hardware load balancer.  :)21:17
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openstackgerritStephen Balukoff proposed a change to stackforge/octavia: Adding initial glossary of terms  https://review.openstack.org/12231421:57
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rm_workblogan: I am going to try to play GO tonight23:13
rm_workwe'll see if that works out23:13
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xgermanrm_work: GO the Japanese board game?23:40
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