| xgerman | sbalukoff: Another talk idea - how to be a good reviewer | 00:08 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: That's a good one, eh! If only I knew how to do that. XD | 00:18 |
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| dougwig | these are the general session talks; most of those didn't go into any real depth, so 40 minutes of TLS interaction would be outside the norm, i'd think. | 01:47 |
| dougwig | btw, i wired up udp load balancing, so if you want a running demo (and a keg), we can make that happen. | 01:48 |
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| Pattabi | hello all | 14:15 |
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| blogan | hello Pattabi | 14:19 |
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| dougwig | hello Pattabi | 14:34 |
| Pattabi | wanted to make sure i joined the right meeting. i am not seeing any conversations. am i missing something ? | 14:36 |
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| ptoohill | join* | 14:38 |
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| blogan | bbiab | 15:01 |
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| sbalukoff | Hmm... vjay2 isn't here... | 15:01 |
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| sbalukoff | Woot! Netsplit! | 15:02 |
| xgerman | yiu are using Neutron at home? | 15:10 |
| blogan | alright i am back | 15:12 |
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| sbalukoff | I really hope we can lay the TLS stuff to rest so that we can, you know, actually implement it. :P | 15:25 |
| blogan | haha to implement woudl mean it can be implemented | 15:25 |
| blogan | as in what im doing is in a state where it can be derived from | 15:25 |
| blogan | soon | 15:25 |
| xgerman | yeah, didn't we originally want to exclude SNI to not slow us down... | 15:26 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 15:26 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: question about L7, what is your opinion on status on the L7 rules and policies entities? | 15:27 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Yes, I think so. Supporting SNI is a hard requirement for us... and I thought it would be stupid simple. Turns out I wasn't aware there were so many stupid vendor "implementations" of it. :P | 15:28 |
| sbalukoff | (Again, using quotes because I think some can only charitably be claimed to actually implement SNI. :P ) | 15:28 |
| xgerman | L7 looks pretty good - BUT I ma not sure if the vendors had time to comment | 15:28 |
| blogan | maybe your implementation of it is stupid | 15:28 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: My impression is that L7 is looking OK. There's not a whole lot of disagreement on the spec right now from what I can tell. | 15:28 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: That's entirely possible. | 15:29 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: well im talking more about an actual status attribute on the entities since right now every entity has a status | 15:29 |
| xgerman | only one? | 15:29 |
| blogan | and that status has been a big reason why we do not allow sharing of entities | 15:29 |
| blogan | or at least we've been holding off on sharing entities | 15:29 |
| xgerman | yep, the can of worms with member down for LB1 but up for LB2 | 15:30 |
| sbalukoff | Oh! | 15:30 |
| sbalukoff | My opinion on status there: There shouldn't be one for L7 entities. | 15:30 |
| xgerman | there has been some fondness for an administrative status - aka ON/OFF | 15:30 |
| blogan | thats admin_state_up attribute | 15:30 |
| sbalukoff | What's the meaning of an L7 rule or policy being "DOWN"? | 15:31 |
| blogan | and that should be there, btu when its shared it'll be turned off for everything sharing it | 15:31 |
| xgerman | yeah, and that is definitely awkward | 15:31 |
| sbalukoff | Also, I thought we weren't sharing L7 rules or policies? | 15:31 |
| sbalukoff | I could be remembering that incorrectly though. | 15:32 |
| xgerman | yeah, I thought we decided on not sahring for almost anyhting in v2 :-) | 15:32 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: well if its a top level resource then i'm assuming it can be shared | 15:32 |
| xgerman | never assume :-) | 15:33 |
| blogan | listeners and pools are top level because we wanted the leave open the possibility of sharing them later | 15:33 |
| sbalukoff | An L7 policy is essentially a way to join a Listener with a non-default pool. (Well, it can also 'REJECT' or 'REDIRECT' a request, too.) | 15:34 |
| sbalukoff | As such, it probably makes sense for L7 Policies to be top-level. | 15:34 |
| blogan | i mean if we absolutely choose not to ever share them i'd prefer to just make them child resources of listener | 15:34 |
| sbalukoff | But not really for them to be shared, per se. | 15:34 |
| sbalukoff | L7 Rules should always be subservient to L7 Policies. | 15:34 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: I don't have a problem with that. | 15:35 |
| sbalukoff | I suspct samuel might. | 15:35 |
| blogan | so /lbaas/listeners/<listener_id>/l7policies/<l7policy_id>/l7rules/<l7rules_id> | 15:35 |
| sbalukoff | I think he's the one who was advocating shared L7 policies... but again, it's been many weeks since that was discussed so I might be remembering incorrectly. | 15:35 |
| blogan | yeah ill bring it up in the spec | 15:35 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Seems fine to me. | 15:36 |
| blogan | just to watch the world burn | 15:36 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 15:36 |
| xgerman | yep, weeks of discussions to follow because vendor Y shares them | 15:36 |
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| sballe_ | I would like for us to check the following blueprints and comment: | 18:29 |
| sballe_ | The revised/latest copies are available in the ceilometer-specs repository at: | 18:29 |
| sballe_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102647/ (Event collection mechanism) | 18:29 |
| sballe_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101967/ (Event content/format) | 18:29 |
| sballe_ | This is how ceilometer plans to get metrics from the Platform Services including LBaaS | 18:29 |
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| dougwig | sballe_: thank you. | 19:53 |
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| dougwig | have i mentioned how much i hate unit tests? | 22:27 |
| xgerman | not yet -- but duly noted | 22:31 |
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| sbalukoff | But hey! Maybe one of these times the openstack bot will get ops back. XD | 22:53 |
| xgerman | ;-) | 22:53 |
| rm_work | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107845/ | 22:53 |
| rm_work | sorry xgerman, "observers" never made it T_T | 22:54 |
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| xgerman | yeah, I figured nobody was as excited about Fringe as me | 22:54 |
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| lordd | Hi folks | 23:02 |
| lordd | does anybody can tell what are the current IceHouse proprietary drivers? | 23:03 |
| lordd | both openstack wiki, proprietary doc doesn't agree | 23:04 |
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