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| apuimedo | ltomasbo: ping | 08:19 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, pong | 08:19 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: I'll review the rest of the patches in the series today. But we'll still need Irena to merge on Sunday | 08:20 |
| ltomasbo | ok | 08:20 |
| ltomasbo | I think I addressed her comments | 08:21 |
| ltomasbo | I'll be traveling next week (sunday-wednesday) | 08:21 |
| ltomasbo | so, not sure if I will be able to commit modifications during those days, but I'll do my best.. | 08:21 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: leisure or business | 08:22 |
| ltomasbo | Cloud Control Conference | 08:22 |
| ltomasbo | I'll talk about kuryr there! | 08:22 |
| apuimedo | awesome | 08:23 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: link? | 08:23 |
| ltomasbo | http://cloudresearch.org/workshops/11th/ | 08:24 |
| ltomasbo | it is a research gathering | 08:24 |
| ltomasbo | where a couple of universities join together a lot of companies doing research in cloud computing | 08:24 |
| ltomasbo | so, I'm on behalf of Red Hat, but there are intel, ibm, google, microsoft, ericsson, ... going too | 08:25 |
| apuimedo | cool | 08:28 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: escaping from the heat in Madrid, eh? | 08:28 |
| ltomasbo | cool and cold! :D | 08:28 |
| ltomasbo | jejeje | 08:29 |
| ltomasbo | I've been leaving for 4 years in the north of Sweden, so I guess the heat will be still welcome for a while... | 08:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Add support for running kuryr with ocata devstack. https://review.openstack.org/470586 | 08:35 |
| apuimedo | do we have somebody working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1696051 ? | 08:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1696051 in neutron "Missing binding details for bulk port creation requests" [Undecided,New] | 08:35 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, I was planning to take a look, but didn't get the time yet | 08:36 |
| ltomasbo | this only affect us for the generic (neutron) vif case | 08:36 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: you should bribe one of the guys in Madid | 08:36 |
| apuimedo | tell them if they fix it today. That's one fuet | 08:37 |
| ltomasbo | xD | 08:37 |
| ltomasbo | I'll try! | 08:37 |
| ltomasbo | now that I'll go to Sweden, I can threaten them with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming | 08:40 |
| dmellado | hi fellows | 08:42 |
| dmellado | Im going to merge all of the gerrithub's tempest plugin patches | 08:42 |
| dmellado | in order to create the pipy package | 08:42 |
| dmellado | FYI | 08:42 |
| * dmellado sighs | 08:43 | |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: you should get some salmiak | 08:43 |
| * apuimedo adores salmiak | 08:43 | |
| dmellado | what's that? | 08:43 |
| apuimedo | licorice + ammonium chloride | 08:43 |
| apuimedo | dmellado: ok, merge away | 08:43 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: I didn't recall that it was so tedious to create a new openstack project | 08:44 |
| dmellado | otherwise I would've voted against that goal xD | 08:44 |
| dmellado | patch to project.config | 08:44 |
| dmellado | patch to governance | 08:44 |
| dmellado | zuul | 08:44 |
| dmellado | pipy | 08:44 |
| * dmellado sighs xD | 08:44 | |
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| apuimedo | dmellado: that's what you get with self service infrastructure | 08:45 |
| apuimedo | if we would just say "create a project, pretty please" it would be probably faster | 08:45 |
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| dmellado | apuimedo: I'll create a project | 08:48 |
| dmellado | self-service fuet | 08:48 |
| dmellado | be prepared | 08:48 |
| dmellado | xD | 08:48 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: wasn't in sweden where they had some kind of weird cigarrettes? | 08:49 |
| ltomasbo | yep, that too | 08:49 |
| ltomasbo | do you want some? | 08:49 |
| dmellado | no, please! | 08:50 |
| dmellado | if those are the ones I recall | 08:50 |
| dmellado | they had some kind of weird 'fish' inside | 08:50 |
| dmellado | xD | 08:50 |
| * dmellado recalling his short time in Karlstad | 08:50 | |
| dmellado | xD | 08:50 |
| dmellado | 'the sunny city' they said, I do defy them to dare coming to Madrid | 08:50 |
| apuimedo | xD | 08:54 |
| apuimedo | I wish I had some salmiak | 08:55 |
| dmellado | I wish I would recall where does enigmail stores his pubring | 08:58 |
| * dmellado has forgotten his pipy creds xD | 08:58 | |
| apuimedo | lol | 08:59 |
| dmellado | oh, it was just so painfully slow xD | 08:59 |
| apuimedo | want me to create the project? | 08:59 |
| apuimedo | (in pypi. no way I'm doing the rest) | 08:59 |
| dmellado | nah, no worries | 08:59 |
| dmellado | I just got the ack email | 08:59 |
| dmellado | it just took a couple of minutes | 08:59 |
| dmellado | so I can log in back now | 08:59 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: a lot of these tests you did, I'd rather move them to functional in the future | 09:01 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: ho ho ho | 09:01 |
| apuimedo | a lot of things are just testing that helper methods were called and such | 09:01 |
| dmellado | so now I have an excuse of getting ltomasbo to improve testing xD | 09:01 |
| apuimedo | and this sets my spidey sense | 09:01 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: but which spiderman are you | 09:01 |
| dmellado | I even saw an indian one | 09:01 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, what tests are you talking about? | 09:01 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: a lot of the ports pool ones | 09:02 |
| apuimedo | I see a lot of assert_called | 09:02 |
| ltomasbo | ahh, ok | 09:02 |
| apuimedo | for non API methods | 09:02 |
| apuimedo | it's fine to have it now since there's no functional testing | 09:02 |
| ltomasbo | yep, it will be great to have funcional tests... | 09:02 |
| apuimedo | but in general goes against my religion | 09:02 |
| dmellado | TODO(ltomasbo): move foo to FT | 09:03 |
| dmellado | xD | 09:03 |
| ltomasbo | :D | 09:03 |
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| apuimedo | ltomasbo: can you make a patch on the tip of the branch that changes GenericVIFPool into NeutronVIFPool | 09:05 |
| apuimedo | (for consistency) | 09:05 |
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| apuimedo | ltomasbo: your branch is approved | 10:05 |
| apuimedo | now you need to nag other cores | 10:05 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, thanks! | 10:11 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: ar yu suar? | 10:14 |
| dmellado | xD | 10:14 |
| apuimedo | dmellado: I hope so | 10:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kirill Zaitsev proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Enforce E128 pep8 check https://review.openstack.org/472249 | 10:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kirill Zaitsev proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Update installation documentation https://review.openstack.org/472653 | 12:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas Bolivar proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Nested vlan vif pool driver extension to precreate reusable subports https://review.openstack.org/436894 | 13:29 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, ping | 13:29 |
| ltomasbo | I sent a new version of the last patch for the ports pool | 13:29 |
| ltomasbo | can you check it | 13:29 |
| ltomasbo | it is just a small modification to ensure proper behavior after kuryr-controller reboot | 13:29 |
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| ltomasbo | apuimedo, I'm trying to push the patchset with the modification to NeutronVIFPool instead of GenericVIFPool | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | but getting some internal server error... | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | so, I'll try it later... | 14:22 |
| mchiappero | hi guys | 14:27 |
| mchiappero | sorry I've been super busy these days | 14:28 |
| mchiappero | ltomasbo: I'm not too sure on how to answer your question | 14:28 |
| dmellado | o/ hi mchiappero np! ;) | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | hi :) | 14:29 |
| ltomasbo | hi! | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | because I'm not sure there is a way to check it from the switch | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | I should check the code in Neutron | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | do you think you might have an idea already? | 14:33 |
| mchiappero | because I'm not sure Neutron applies and return or successfully enqueues the request and passes it down to the agent | 14:34 |
| ltomasbo | well, I assume this is some rule that the neutron-server needs to include in the DB | 14:39 |
| ltomasbo | and then te agent where the port is, needs to include in ovs | 14:40 |
| ltomasbo | just not sure if the call will return before the agent applies the rule, or it will wait for it | 14:40 |
| ltomasbo | not sure if this could work, but, perhaps you can try to disable the neutron agent, and trigger the command | 14:41 |
| ltomasbo | and see if it returns or gives you an error | 14:41 |
| ltomasbo | mchiappero, ^^ | 14:41 |
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| mchiappero | ok, but the problem is: do we have a way to get that feedback back from the agent? | 14:47 |
| mchiappero | otherwise we have no choice anyway | 14:48 |
| mchiappero | :( | 14:48 |
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| kzaitsev_ws | as far as I understand the feedback is indirect for ovs ports at least | 14:48 |
| kzaitsev_ws | i.e. if the vif is not active — controller keeps pinging neutron | 14:49 |
| mchiappero | you mean that you may get a 200 from neutron but checking the port later would work? | 14:50 |
| kzaitsev_ws | when neutron says that port is ready controller says ok. marks vif as ready. then the CNI reads an update in the annotation and says OK pod is ready | 14:50 |
| mchiappero | the port will never become active as there is no actual pluggin | 14:50 |
| mchiappero | *plugging | 14:50 |
| mchiappero | I'll try to make some tests, I'll let you know | 14:51 |
| kzaitsev_ws | you mean neutron would always think that it's down? | 14:51 |
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| kzaitsev_ws | I think what ltomasbo wants is to be sure, that you can use network on the pod the moment CNI says 'ok' | 14:52 |
| ivc_ | mchiappero kzaitsev_ws what kind of feedback are you discussing? | 14:53 |
| mchiappero | yeah sure, but the port will stay down | 14:53 |
| mchiappero | it's only used for the ip address | 14:53 |
| kzaitsev_ws | ivc_: I just jumped into mchiappero and ltomasbo discussion on macvlan nested ports =) | 14:54 |
| mchiappero | ivc_: on the allowed address pairs | 14:55 |
| ltomasbo | mchiappero, yep, the port status it does not matter | 14:56 |
| ltomasbo | but the status of the allowed address pairs does | 14:56 |
| ltomasbo | if the neutron-agent has not include it the rule by the time the container starts | 14:56 |
| ltomasbo | then we end up in the same problem we could have if not doing the pooling for the port to become active in the other cases | 14:56 |
| mchiappero | no, I understand perfectly | 14:58 |
| ivc_ | ltomasbo mchiappero thats another reason not to use allowed address pairs then :) | 14:58 |
| mchiappero | I'm just thinking of: 1) how to correctly check it 2) whether having that check that slows the process down is a good tradeoff anyway | 14:59 |
| ltomasbo | mchiappero, ivc_, I was just wondering if the neutron call returns once the actions is applied | 15:01 |
| ivc_ | mchiappero i'm not sure if it's even possible to check at all | 15:01 |
| ltomasbo | or just once it is in the DB | 15:01 |
| ivc_ | ltomasbo its just the DB | 15:01 |
| ltomasbo | that was my feeling, and thus my concern | 15:01 |
| mchiappero | ivc_: that is what I was trying to understand | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas Bolivar proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Nested vif driver extension to enable ports reuse https://review.openstack.org/436893 | 15:04 |
| mchiappero | so what then? :) | 15:04 |
| ltomasbo | well | 15:06 |
| ltomasbo | you can do some pooling | 15:06 |
| ltomasbo | and request the port info and ensure the allowed pairs is updated | 15:06 |
| ltomasbo | or that information is updated upfront too? | 15:06 |
| mchiappero | I think ivc_ implied the latter | 15:07 |
| ltomasbo | I guess we need to see in neutron agent triggers any notification, and how that one is handled by the neutron-server (i.e, what is changed upon notification) | 15:08 |
| ivc_ | ltomasbo mchiappero i'm greping the code now, but if you have an env you can prolly check it (by running a vm, killing neutron agent after vm is ready and then updating allowed_address_pair) | 15:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas Bolivar proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Generic vif pool driver extension to precreate reusable ports https://review.openstack.org/436877 | 15:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas Bolivar proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Nested vif driver extension to enable ports reuse https://review.openstack.org/436893 | 15:10 |
| mchiappero | I'll try soon | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas Bolivar proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Nested vlan vif pool driver extension to precreate reusable subports https://review.openstack.org/436894 | 15:12 |
| ltomasbo | umm, not sure why my patches Ids got somehow corrupted, I had to manually do a rebase, one by one... | 15:13 |
| ltomasbo | ivc_, yep, that was my idea on how to test that | 15:15 |
| ltomasbo | if it gives you an error, or at least following commands on openstack port show does not show that information | 15:15 |
| ltomasbo | then we are good | 15:15 |
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| apuimedo | I'm deep in devstack-overcloud-heat hell | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | man... Writing deployment tools sucks | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Luis Tomas Bolivar proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: Change from GenericVIFPool to NeutronVIFPool https://review.openstack.org/472734 | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | it's very nice to use once it exists though | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | doesn't help that fscking openstack cli does > /dev/null with a lot of info | 15:18 |
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| ltomasbo | apuimedo, check the last ports pool patch (I lost the +2 after some minor update) | 15:22 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, and the new patch to keep aligned with NeutronVIF | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | okey dokey | 15:22 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, thanks! | 15:24 |
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| mchiappero | ivc_: ltomasbo: it seems it's stored in the port right away | 16:08 |
| ltomasbo | mchiappero, you mean in the db? and in the port show info? | 16:09 |
| ltomasbo | with the agent down? | 16:09 |
| mchiappero | yes | 16:10 |
| ltomasbo | mchiappero, that's bad... | 16:10 |
| ltomasbo | we need to think in a way to get that info then | 16:11 |
| mchiappero | it's how it works in kuryr-libnetwork though | 16:11 |
| ivc_ | mchiappero *works most of the time maybe? :) | 16:12 |
| ivc_ | if you are lucky and its faster than app startup you'll be fine :) | 16:12 |
| mchiappero | ivc_: I meant that it's the same logic we implemented in kuryr-libnetwork | 16:13 |
| mchiappero | does the timing make any difference? | 16:14 |
| mchiappero | I mean, the biggest problem is not having the flows | 16:14 |
| mchiappero | having them is still a problem but less severe | 16:15 |
| ivc_ | mchiappero i mean when you tell neutron to add allowed pair it takes time on neutron/agent side, but at the same time you update annotation and cni needs some time to detect it | 16:17 |
| ivc_ | mchiappero so as long as it takes more time on container side than on neutron side, your app will have access | 16:17 |
| ivc_ | mchiappero and i'm not trying to say its ok :) | 16:18 |
| mchiappero | I understood already | 16:18 |
| ivc_ | its (works sometimes) vs (just works) :) | 16:19 |
| mchiappero | no, ok, I used a bad wording | 16:20 |
| mchiappero | what I meant to say is that, having a delay in getting the connectivity is a problem but it would work in the end | 16:21 |
| mchiappero | if for some reason there is a failure it's impossible to detect it, and it's fairly severe. Although in that case probably you would be out of luck anyway | 16:22 |
| mchiappero | ok, then? | 16:26 |
| mchiappero | actually it's something that in theory should be fixed in neutron | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoni Segura Puimedon proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes master: [WIP] contrib: devstack-overcloud-heat https://review.openstack.org/472763 | 17:13 |
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