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| openstackgerrit | Dongcan Ye proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Check overlapping subnet cidr when creating subnetpool https://review.openstack.org/373977 | 00:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhang Ni proposed openstack/fuxi: Enable Fuxi to use Manila share https://review.openstack.org/375452 | 00:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dongcan Ye proposed openstack/kuryr: Add ExportPortFailure https://review.openstack.org/377182 | 03:18 |
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| apuimedo | portdirect: hi! | 07:14 |
| apuimedo | you got me curious with the mention of libnetwork + kubernetes, we are not using kuryr-libnetwork in our prototypes | 07:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dongcan Ye proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: [TrivialFix] Fix README https://review.openstack.org/376173 | 07:42 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: could you check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374257/4 ? | 07:57 |
| apuimedo | I'd like to finish with the removal of netaddr | 07:58 |
| vikasc | aure apuimedo | 07:59 |
| vikasc | *sure | 07:59 |
| apuimedo | thanks vikasc | 07:59 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, yw! | 07:59 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: Could you please add steps to reproduce in the bug descriptions? (I was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr/+bug/1627911 ) | 08:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627911 in kuryr "'module' object has no attribute 'ExportPortFailure'" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen) | 08:09 |
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| yedongcan | apuimedo: I just modify src code and test exposed function. But that's obvious, it's missing ExportPortFailure in kuryr-lib. | 08:12 |
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| yedongcan | apuimode: If we mets exception, the bug occurs | 08:14 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: ok. In general I like to reproduce the bugs. I can see that the code is bugged, but I was trying to figure out how you reached the "raise exceptions.ExportPortFailure", what kind of SG creation error took you there | 08:14 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: I just want to try create sec group in on API, so I modify the code. | 08:15 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: do you think you could add a unit test that mocks app.neutron.create_security_group so that the bug is exposed if it appears again? | 08:15 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: Maybe we can't add multi sec group rules in one API, so raise that exception | 08:16 |
| apuimedo | (a patch for kuryr-libnetwork | 08:16 |
| apuimedo | ) | 08:16 |
| apuimedo | lately we are fixing too many bugs without adding unit tests to avoid regressions :( | 08:16 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: Sure, I will. | 08:16 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: But I will resumbit a new patch in kuryr-libnetwork. | 08:17 |
| apuimedo | sure, sure. I mean a new one. The current one I already +2 ;-) | 08:17 |
| apuimedo | thanks for the fix yedongcan | 08:17 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: welcome :) | 08:18 |
| yedongcan | I had sumit a bug in lauchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr-libnetwork/+bug/1627922 | 08:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627922 in kuryr-libnetwork "Optimize add security group rules for exposed ports" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen) | 08:18 |
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| yedongcan | If user wants to expose ranges of ports for a container, we will call Neutron client many many times to create Neutron security group rules. | 08:19 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: sounds like it is the case | 08:20 |
| apuimedo | we should improve that | 08:20 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: Yes, maybe a wishlist. | 08:24 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: no, we can just create a normal bug | 08:24 |
| apuimedo | and classify it as "importance - Medium" | 08:24 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: Got it. :) | 08:24 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: Could you mark it? | 08:25 |
| apuimedo | sure | 08:25 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: give me the link | 08:26 |
| apuimedo | oh, it's here | 08:26 |
| apuimedo | :P | 08:26 |
| yedongcan | :) | 08:26 |
| yedongcan | Thanks | 08:26 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: please, add a docker command example for running the container with exposed ports | 08:27 |
| apuimedo | this way it is easier for new contributors to try | 08:27 |
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| yedongcan | apuimedo: Mohammad Banikazemi had already add it. #Link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372783/ | 08:29 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: no, I meant to the bug description ;-) | 08:29 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: Ok, I will update. | 08:30 |
| apuimedo | thanks! | 08:30 |
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| apuimedo | yedongcan: Looking again at the missing exception class, I think it may make more sense to have this exception in openstack/kuryr-libnetwork | 09:04 |
| apuimedo | I'm not sure we'll need an exception named like that from Kubernetes | 09:04 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: what do you think? | 09:05 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: If we no need to use in kuryr-kubernetes, we can remove to kuryr-libnetwork. | 09:09 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: let's keep it in kuryr for now and let's merge it, we can remove it in the future ;-) | 09:10 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: Agree | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoni Segura Puimedon proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: tox: Install like other OpenStack projects https://review.openstack.org/377401 | 09:26 |
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| portdirect | apuimedo: hey | 09:29 |
| apuimedo | hi portdirect | 09:29 |
| apuimedo | ! | 09:29 |
| apuimedo | is this yours portdirect http://port.direct/ ? | 09:30 |
| portdirect | I'm using a teaked version of midonets prototype raven for cni, and kuryr for docker | 09:31 |
| portdirect | yup | 09:31 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: :-) | 09:31 |
| apuimedo | the question is why do you need kuryr-libnetwork for docker? | 09:31 |
| apuimedo | docker gets called via kubelet | 09:31 |
| apuimedo | which also calls cni | 09:31 |
| apuimedo | so kuryr-libnetwork should not have to be necessary | 09:32 |
| portdirect | Ah, it's not for pure kube - but I'm using kuryr to act as a bridge between hosts and the neutron networks. | 09:33 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: so, IIUC, you have kubernetes-api kubernetes-controller-manager and kubernetes-scheduler unmodified | 09:34 |
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| apuimedo | then instead of running kube-proxy, you run midonet prototype raven | 09:34 |
| apuimedo | which annotates the resource in kubernetes api | 09:34 |
| portdirect | on each host I'm creating a docker bridge network, and then patching it into the network created by raven to allow pod in the hosts network namespace (like nova compute) to acees the cluster | 09:35 |
| portdirect | https://github.com/portdirect/harbor/blob/latest/docker/openstack/openstack-kuryr/openstack-kuryr-uplink/assets/start.sh | 09:35 |
| apuimedo | so when kubelet calls CNI, it calls the kuryr (from midonet poc) CNI | 09:35 |
| portdirect | yup | 09:35 |
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| apuimedo | you use https://github.com/portdirect/harbor/blob/latest/docker/openstack/openstack-kuryr/openstack-kuryr-uplink/assets/start.sh so that kuryr-libnetwork is used to preset the network that raven will use with external access and the like, right? | 09:36 |
| apuimedo | (and monitoring, I see) | 09:37 |
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| apuimedo | portdirect: what's this uplink image? | 09:39 |
| portdirect | At the moment I'm using a tradional external network for outbout connectivity, and this "uplink" network on each host is used for inbound connections - I have an nginx ingress controller running on each node that provides access to wervices withing the cluster. | 09:40 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: in midonet's prototype and our idea in Kuryr is to use neutron lbaasv2 for that | 09:41 |
| portdirect | Thats what I'm doing for services within the cluster. | 09:42 |
| portdirect | the router image is here, basicly dows nothing atm: https://github.com/portdirect/harbor/blob/latest/docker/services/router/router/assets/start.sh | 09:42 |
| apuimedo | aha | 09:44 |
| portdirect | the teaks I made to midonets prototype are here: https://github.com/portdirect/kuryr/commit/55b73333cd4f06f1447216dfed68bfb29b478480 | 09:44 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: are you following what we are doing with kubernetes? We have both the midokura prototype and ivc's python2 compatible patches | 09:44 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: I see you also moved it to lbaasv2 | 09:46 |
| portdirect | I must confess I'm not up to speed with where you are, I'm getting involved with the kolla peeps to bring over some of the stuff I've done - It would be great to know what your plans are. | 09:46 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: well, we're bringing either midonet's poc or ivc's work to openstack/kuryr-kubernetes | 09:47 |
| portdirect | do you have a link for ivc's stuff? | 09:47 |
| apuimedo | disclaimer: I was at Midokura doing the PoC | 09:47 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:ichukhnakov%40mirantis.com+status:open | 09:48 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: does the loadbalancer type show up correctly in k8s? | 09:49 |
| portdirect | cheers, I'll have a look at that | 09:49 |
| apuimedo | I thought the status has to be done with a provider | 09:49 |
| portdirect | I'll need to double check with the latest version, but I'm sure it did when I tested it last - I had some difficulty displaying the external IP, but I *think* I got that sorted. | 09:51 |
| apuimedo | well, if you got that sorted out, I'm even more interested in seeing it ;-) | 09:52 |
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| portdirect | Cool - I'm afraid the latest build has a few bugs - but I should have an AMI and QCOW image that 'just works' this afternoon again :) | 09:53 |
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| apuimedo | cool | 09:54 |
| portdirect | I think that a 'raven' like approach makes loads of sense - I've also got cinder providing persistant storage directly, it would br great to make raven pluggable so that non-networking watchers could be added, lesee thats too much feature creep? | 09:55 |
| portdirect | *unless | 09:55 |
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| apuimedo | portdirect: the idea is for it to be pluggable | 09:58 |
| apuimedo | you just make a new watcher | 09:58 |
| apuimedo | the upstreaming has this concept that you can add a new watcher in the config file saying what it should watch and which is the python path | 09:58 |
| apuimedo | it's not close to being finished though | 09:59 |
| apuimedo | so you could use it with external code | 09:59 |
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| portdirect | nice, getting called into a meeting :( I'll drop back in when I've uploaded new images - its really simple to get going - litereally just log in and run "systemctl start kubelet", and then wait an hour for it to build itself (would be much quicker but takes a while for FreeIPA to generate certs and set up a KRA vault for secret storage) | 10:07 |
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| apuimedo | very well | 10:07 |
| apuimedo | freeipa :O | 10:08 |
| apuimedo | I like to see that used in the wild | 10:08 |
| apuimedo | portdirect: how much ram should I have? | 10:08 |
| portdirect | it'll go on 16, but 24 is the min i think. | 10:09 |
| apuimedo | 24gigs? ehhhh. I just have 16 :P | 10:10 |
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| portdirect | actually: | 10:11 |
| portdirect | total used free shared buff/cache available | 10:11 |
| portdirect | Mem: 30678 9821 4697 36 16159 20414 | 10:11 |
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| portdirect | so you may be ok | 10:11 |
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| apuimedo | good then | 13:29 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: ping | 13:30 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: did you go over the ovo port model? | 13:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kuryr: Add ExportPortFailure exception https://review.openstack.org/377182 | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoni Segura Puimedon proposed openstack/kuryr: binding: Add ipvlan and macvlan support for nested https://review.openstack.org/375864 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Antoni Segura Puimedon proposed openstack/kuryr: tox: Install like other OpenStack projects https://review.openstack.org/377713 | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: tox: Install like other OpenStack projects https://review.openstack.org/377401 | 14:24 |
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| jgriffith | apuimedo: ping | 14:29 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: errr... pong :) | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: :-) | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | did you manage to get to talk with the fuxi developer? | 14:30 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: I did not, and actually it doesn't seem that fuxi quite works | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | :/ | 14:31 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: It didn't report in to the docker daemon, and I couldn't see where the endpoint was actually implemented either, so I was kinda confused | 14:31 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: do you know the devs IRC nic? | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: it did not answer to the docker daemon? | 14:32 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: nope, unless there was something I missed | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: he's not showing up on IRC, I asked some of his colleagues | 14:32 |
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| apuimedo | but didn't get far with that | 14:32 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: the service launched, and that seemed good, but it never actually logged in | 14:33 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: so what do you think of pulling in the golang stuff that I wrote? | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: the problem is that the TC bars us from that :( | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | they decided on python only | 14:33 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: nah :) | 14:33 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: Well, yeah... but this particular case I think is different than what was proposed before | 14:34 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: perhaps you're right though and it's not worth bringing up | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: I asked particularly about the the docker/kubernetes integration case | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | and they told me that the most we can do | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | is to have golang parts outside of openstack | 14:35 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: ahhh... so you've been down this road yourself :( | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | that we use from a python openstack/ repo | 14:35 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: well I certainly think that's short sighted of them and would have no problem taking the issue up with the TC if there were people interested and it mattered | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | I also think it is short sighted and raised the complaint with some of the TC members | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | I think the TC is 70 vs 30 on this issue | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | mestery can confirm ;-) | 14:36 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: well, I'm happy to be an advocate; I'll even propose the golang version under Big Tent | 14:36 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: or, screw it... I'm find if it's not under the OpenStack umbrella | 14:37 |
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| jgriffith | s/find/fine/ | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | what is clear is that we would benefit from a Docker cinder driver in openstack | 14:37 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: agreed | 14:37 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: I still need to hit up the folks at Docker again; there was some willingness to consider adding it to the docker repo | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: did you use the gophercloud golang client to talk to cinder? | 14:37 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: yeah | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: wow, that's much more than the libnetwork folks ever considered for us | 14:38 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: gophercloud and the docker plugin helpers | 14:38 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: well, I'm not getting too excited, I think it's possible that I just haven't talked to the *wrong* person yet :) | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: that is quite possible | 14:38 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: I'm sure when a PR goes up it'd get shot down | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | that seems to be the pattern for us | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | or ignored | 14:39 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: but there is some interesting precedence in docker-machine now | 14:39 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: and I was looking at a way to go that route | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | for the openstack driver in docker machine? | 14:39 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: right | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | it's not exactly the same, but it is worth it to try to use that as a precedent | 14:40 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: it's a stretch, but I was playing with the layout of the repo and some of the code to see if I could make something happen | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | I originally wanted to have our libnetwork driver in Docker and only library parts in openstack namespace | 14:40 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: ahhh | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | but alas, that didn't fly with them | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | s/but alas/alas/ | 14:41 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: well... what if we worked on a proposal for the TC together and gave it one last shot? | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: I'm up for not giving up | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | let me check how the resolution read the last time | 14:42 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: the thing is in this particular case it makes a lot more sense to leverage existing open source libs and use golang as opposed to reinventing/rewriting *everything* | 14:42 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: I talked with ttx in NYC about this and he seemed open to considering it | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: and in kubernetes integration even more | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | because otherwise we have to replicate the kubernetes client code | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | which is a drag | 14:43 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: right, and honestly that just seems like a waste of time and effort IMHO | 14:43 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: there is a world outside the confines of OpenStack :) | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: I really don't like how they are tying the python and the openstack communities | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2016/tc.2016-08-16-20.02.log.txt | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | there was some Java precedent here? | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | maybe | 14:45 |
| jgriffith | I have a couple large'ish tasks I'm finishing up on Cinder right now, but maybe talk to some folks in Barcelona? | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | but they seem to draw the line on offering a REST | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: agreed | 14:45 |
| jgriffith | or maybe I'll run for TC again and try and influence the vote that way :) | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | that would be good too | 14:45 |
| jgriffith | Let's chat some more later this week. I'll look at the possibility of broaching the subject with the TC again | 14:46 |
| jgriffith | I think we could do this in such a way that it's for very specific cases (docker integrations) which saves the trouble of "everybody" wanting a different lang | 14:47 |
| jgriffith | which I get the desire to avoid that | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | ok | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | jgriffith: the last vote is at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2016/tc.2016-08-02-20.01.log.txt | 14:48 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: yeah, I've read it | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: I'll refrain from adding my editorial... except for one thing | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | o ttx was for, but there is a big core | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | opposed to it | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: those that think we've developed some thing that makes it *easier* for developers is crazy | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | apuimedo: we've created some extremely convoluted and complex python code, with a LOT of intense process around it. | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | not saying that's good or bad, just saying the arguments that "we've created something for everyone to leverage" doesn't fly with me | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | anyway, before I get spun up on that rat hole :) | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | it just doesn't seem pragmatic to me | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | agreed | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | banix: hey! | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | good to see you | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | can I bother you about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374257/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377713/ | 15:00 |
| * apuimedo trying to close down stuff and release kuryr-libnetwork :-) | 15:00 | |
| banix | apuimedo: yes sure; give me a few minutes | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | thanks banix! | 15:00 |
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