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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kuryr: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/357683 | 03:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/351976 | 03:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dongcan Ye proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Duplicate utils code in kuryr-lib and kuryr-libnetwork https://review.openstack.org/362857 | 04:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | janonymous proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Docker Daemon to use port 2375 instead of 23750 at some places https://review.openstack.org/363414 | 05:57 |
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| apuimedo | vikasc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362094/ | 07:12 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, done | 07:13 |
| apuimedo | thanks vikasc! | 07:14 |
| vikasc | np | 07:14 |
| vikasc | :) | 07:14 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: also, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355714/ | 07:15 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 07:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Update requirements and test-requirements https://review.openstack.org/362094 | 07:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kuryr: Drop unused requirements https://review.openstack.org/361937 | 07:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kuryr: requirements: add missing oslo i18n dep in order https://review.openstack.org/361972 | 07:24 |
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| irenab | apuimedo: hi | 08:15 |
| apuimedo | irenab: Hey! | 08:15 |
| apuimedo | nice to see you! | 08:15 |
| irenab | apuimedo: same here:-) | 08:15 |
| apuimedo | irenab: you are not on PTO any longer, or some very bothering bearded guy prompted you to pause your PTO? | 08:16 |
| irenab | apuimedo: haha, coming back from PTO tomorrow | 08:17 |
| irenab | just wanted to say hello | 08:17 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 08:17 |
| apuimedo | irenab: sending you the invite now | 08:19 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 08:20 |
| irenab | apuimedo: thanks | 08:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kuryr: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/357683 | 09:09 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/351976 | 09:09 |
| openstackgerrit | vikas choudhary proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Move kuryr_libnetwork/common/* to kuryr_libnetwork https://review.openstack.org/361567 | 09:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | vikas choudhary proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Code restructuring: neutron client as rest driver from Kuryr lib https://review.openstack.org/342614 | 09:27 |
| openstackgerrit | vikas choudhary proposed openstack/kuryr-libnetwork: Nested-Containers: Add vlan management apis https://review.openstack.org/363524 | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | vikas choudhary proposed openstack/kuryr: Add 'deployment_type' configuration parameter https://review.openstack.org/362023 | 10:14 |
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| ivc_ | apuimedo: devvesa: hey guys, i've spent some time thinking about py2/py3 and asyncio/eventlet stuff. and now i'm thinking - what if we just use regular python threads instead of async/eventlet? we only have a very limited number of "?watch=true" watchers which are kind of serialized by its nature anyway | 11:18 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: what do you mean with 'kind of serialized'? That you don't get more that one event per watcher? | 11:21 |
| apuimedo | (at the same time) | 11:22 |
| ivc_ | yup | 11:22 |
| ivc_ | tho it does not need to be that way as we only need to serialize operations on the same objects (i.e. that add/modyfy/delete from the same pod/service are serial but not necessary across different services/pods) | 11:24 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: that is true. However, in that scenario, then you'd probably want to have then separate threads for the translators so they don't stall the event watching (potentially even putting the translators in another subprocess that receives the requests via messaging like grpc | 11:24 |
| ivc_ | yes thats what i'm thinking | 11:24 |
| ivc_ | so we have separate threads for watchers and a pool of workers that will drain queues | 11:25 |
| ivc_ | and we can have several queues/workers based on object hash | 11:25 |
| ivc_ | don't think we'd need another subprocess tho. we'r io bound, not cpu bound are we? | 11:26 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: that is true | 11:27 |
| apuimedo | I was just reminiscing my original plans | 11:27 |
| apuimedo | which were to use golang watchers that reused the official k8s client code | 11:28 |
| ivc_ | and we can also have either threads or greenlets supported by the same code | 11:28 |
| apuimedo | and that we'd have grpc to a python process that did the OSt stuff | 11:28 |
| apuimedo | :P | 11:28 |
| apuimedo | (that was the way to have the least amount of code) | 11:28 |
| pablochacin | apuimedo ivc_ what you comment is interesting, mostly because it points to the need of clear separation o watchers and translators | 11:31 |
| apuimedo | pablochacin: I knew you'd like that | 11:31 |
| pablochacin | not only on code, but at execution | 11:31 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 11:31 |
| pablochacin | :-) | 11:31 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: I'll try to make some diagram about the option you present for tomorrow's meeting | 11:31 |
| apuimedo | brrrr... Back to figuring out packaging | 11:35 |
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| sdake | say did keystone v3 make kuryr ? | 12:07 |
| * apuimedo rebasing the patch now that we fixed devstack | 12:09 | |
| apuimedo | Did we run out of time for the kolla freeze :( ? | 12:09 |
| sdake | apuimedo i am considering pushing our freeze into rc1 for certain features | 12:10 |
| sdake | milestone 1 is today | 12:11 |
| sdake | rc1 is 15th | 12:11 |
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| apuimedo | sdake: it will be there for rc1 | 12:12 |
| apuimedo | we are just that patch away from making the 1.0.0 kuryr-lib release | 12:12 |
| apuimedo | and I'm also working on the rpm packages | 12:12 |
| apuimedo | so that kolla can also build it from package | 12:13 |
| sdake | apuimedo i'd take from src for now, we can always do from package in a bug fix | 12:15 |
| apuimedo | sdake: ok, so I'll change the priority (I was first doing the package) | 12:17 |
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| sdake | apuimedo ya the base support would be great - so huikang can finish he job on he patches | 12:18 |
| apuimedo | understood. Getting to it | 12:19 |
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| devvesa | sdake: kuryr-kubernetes is starting. Code does nothing but the service already runs and listens k8s events. you can consider it for the next release :) | 12:43 |
| sdake | devvesa sounds good - although I won't be ptl of kolla ;) | 12:44 |
| apuimedo | sdake: who are the candidates? Sam? | 12:45 |
| sdake | sam doesn't participate with kolla since the release of mitaka | 12:45 |
| apuimedo | oh | 12:45 |
| apuimedo | sdake: I hope you'll still be in the community :-) | 12:46 |
| sdake | of course - staying core for atleast a year | 12:46 |
| sdake | maybe more | 12:46 |
| sdake | future filled with emotions - difficult to predict the future is ;) | 12:46 |
| devvesa | sdake: Oh... Well, we'll try to bribe whoever it will be the PTL | 12:48 |
| sdake | devvesa really depends on the developers not the ptl | 12:49 |
| sdake | devvesa i've really worked to blunt the power of the ptl in kolla the last two cycles | 12:49 |
| apuimedo | sdake: great to hear we'll still have you there! | 12:49 |
| devvesa | that's too much people to bribe. We'll try to do an interesting service, then :) | 12:49 |
| apuimedo | sdake: we didn't even want to have a PTL in Kuryr | 12:50 |
| apuimedo | but governance forced us | 12:50 |
| sdake | devvesa i don't thiink its healthy for a mature project to have a indespensible leader | 12:50 |
| apuimedo | we even tried to bargain to have co-PTLs | 12:50 |
| sdake | governance structure is moving to co-ptls over time | 12:50 |
| sdake | by hving coordinators for certain areas | 12:50 |
| sdake | i.e. release coordinator | 12:51 |
| sdake | etc | 12:51 |
| apuimedo | sdake: devvesa is also a more for cooperative non-boss style | 12:51 |
| sdake | i think they are called "iasons" rather then coordinators | 12:51 |
| sdake | ya not making criticisms of kuryr | 12:51 |
| sdake | just telling you about kolla ;) | 12:51 |
| sdake | tbh i have no idea what your governance structure is | 12:52 |
| sdake | ever project is a little bit diferent | 12:52 |
| apuimedo | I know. I meant that I am glad for what you have been pushing. Showing that we tried to avoid the strong PTL thing too | 12:52 |
| apuimedo | sdake: we have gsagie as PTL, dealing with OSt governance | 12:52 |
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| apuimedo | and I take care of the day to day reviewing and coordinating | 12:53 |
| sdake | nice | 12:53 |
| apuimedo | thanks | 12:53 |
| sdake | i sort of want kolla to struggle a bit to evolve its leadership at htis point | 12:54 |
| sdake | so htings are more evenly distributed | 12:54 |
| devvesa | Actually, I absolutely ignore the functions of a PTL. I see it like a comunication point between governance/fundation and projects | 12:54 |
| apuimedo | sdake: the struggle may be for the best | 12:54 |
| sdake | ptls have a lot of responsibility when a project becomes super mature | 12:54 |
| sdake | kolla has had about 180 committers during its lifetime | 12:55 |
| sdake | thats a whole lot of peole to manage ;) | 12:55 |
| apuimedo | devvesa: it's a bit of boring work too, like being admin to the gerrit groups and stuff | 12:55 |
| apuimedo | sdake: more than 10x what we had | 12:56 |
| apuimedo | xD | 12:56 |
| sdake | we also have 420 stars on git hub :) | 12:56 |
| apuimedo | ah no, apparently we had 49 contributors | 12:56 |
| apuimedo | but not regulars | 12:56 |
| sdake | our teamsize with the governance teamstats repo is 35/36 | 12:56 |
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| apuimedo | that's a very healthy sie | 12:58 |
| apuimedo | *size | 12:58 |
| sdake | heat (39.55% | 32.53% | 35.17% | 26.32%) | 13:06 |
| sdake | (52.47% | 60.27% | 64.14% | 47.37%) | 13:06 |
| sdake | ( 26 | 31) | 13:06 |
| apuimedo | sdake: how do you extract that? | 13:07 |
| sdake | apuimedo the governance repository | 13:07 |
| sdake | kolla (23.12% | 19.29% | 24.80% | 27.78%) | 13:08 |
| sdake | (38.63% | 36.57% | 46.11% | 44.44%) | 13:08 |
| sdake | ( 36 | 37) | 13:08 |
| sdake | lower percentage = higher diversity | 13:08 |
| sdake | kuryr (21.94% | 42.70% | 61.42% | 50.00%) | 13:08 |
| sdake | (37.42% | 59.15% | 78.41% | 66.67%) | 13:08 |
| sdake | ( 6 | 26) | 13:08 |
| sdake | kuryr doing well considering its age | 13:08 |
| sdake | it wasn't until kolla was about 2.5 yers old tht things really took off | 13:08 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 13:08 |
| apuimedo | thanks | 13:08 |
| apuimedo | we are a slight bit short on cores atm | 13:09 |
| apuimedo | for my taste | 13:09 |
| apuimedo | but we'll get there | 13:09 |
| apuimedo | I don't want to have the people wait too much for reviews | 13:09 |
| sdake | ya we hae that problem in kolla | 13:09 |
| sdake | too much input not enough core reviewers | 13:09 |
| sdake | andwe have 12 or 13 people on the cr team | 13:09 |
| sdake | we just hired two more | 13:09 |
| sdake | apuimedo git clone http://github.com/openstack/governance | 13:11 |
| sdake | python tools/teamstats.py | 13:11 |
| apuimedo | we have 5 | 13:11 |
| apuimedo | and in summer time... PTO hits hard | 13:11 |
| sdake | that should be plenty | 13:11 |
| apuimedo | thanks. I didn't notice the tools dir | 13:11 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 13:11 |
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| sdake_ | apuimedo http://paste.fedoraproject.org/418051/14726493/ -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/418051/14726493 | 13:17 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 13:19 |
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| apuimedo | thanks for the merges banix! | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes: [WIP] translators https://review.openstack.org/363757 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes: [WIP] Introduce the translator layer https://review.openstack.org/363758 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed openstack/kuryr-kubernetes: [WIP] Introduce the translator layer https://review.openstack.org/363758 | 15:42 |
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| apuimedo | devvesa: you've been busy today | 15:46 |
| apuimedo | :-0 | 15:46 |
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| devvesa | Actually is just a single patch that I forgot to amend and then I stashed :) | 15:56 |
| devvesa | *squashed | 15:57 |
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| apuimedo | :P | 15:59 |
| devvesa | This is basically the patch that we can discuss upon | 16:02 |
| devvesa | tomorrow | 16:02 |
| apuimedo | very well | 16:03 |
| apuimedo | I'll check it in the night | 16:03 |
| apuimedo | now going to the playground | 16:03 |
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| devvesa | have fun! | 16:03 |
| apuimedo|away | thanks! | 16:03 |
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