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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788321 | 08:09 |
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| mgoddard | morning | 08:11 |
| yoctozepto | thx mnasiadka | 08:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe-config-dev master: Sync kayobe-config-dev with kayobe changes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe-config-dev/+/788426 | 08:14 |
| hrw | morning | 08:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: move to Debian 'bullseye' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788304 | 08:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe-config master: Sync kayobe-config with kayobe changes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe-config/+/787924 | 08:19 |
| hrw | rebased | 08:21 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/787753 :) | 08:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe-config-dev master: Sync kayobe-config-dev with kayobe changes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe-config-dev/+/788426 | 08:23 |
| hrw | Status: Downloaded newer image for quay.io/openstack.kolla/debian-source-base:master | 08:23 |
| hrw | ()[root@df0d14496356 /]# lsb_release -a | 08:23 |
| hrw | No LSB modules are available. | 08:23 |
| hrw | :) | 08:23 |
| hrw | Distributor ID: Debian | 08:23 |
| hrw | Description: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid | 08:23 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: you can +W https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/786591 now | 08:23 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: approoooved :D | 08:24 |
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| hrw | ok, centos repos on mirrors are out of sync | 08:37 |
| hrw | so CI fails | 08:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: docs: aio: add note with link to automated setup https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788291 | 08:42 |
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| hrw | mgoddard: wallaby bullseye does not conflict anymore | 08:48 |
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| mgoddard | hrw: k | 08:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: releasenotes: we move to Debian bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788260 | 08:51 |
| hrw | linked to wallaby version | 08:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: [release] Tidy release notes for Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788432 | 08:53 |
| hrw | guys: look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/787513 and give opinion. It moves check for 'is it proper base image' to be the first thing in build. without installing anything | 08:53 |
| hrw | allows us to say "Debian GNU/Linux bullseye" and ignore is it "bullseye" or "testing/sid" or "bullseye/sid" | 08:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Ubuntu: install qemu-img on seed-hypervisor https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788457 | 09:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/kolla failed: Pin erlang https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788045 | 09:12 |
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| hrw | o, first V-1 info | 09:17 |
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| yoctozepto | V-2 | 09:18 |
| yoctozepto | V-1 are ignored | 09:18 |
| yoctozepto | for they can come from legit issues ;-) | 09:18 |
| yoctozepto | sadly, we seem to run with epel enabled in base | 09:19 |
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| hrw | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765864 disables epel | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Deprecate enable_host_ntp https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788321 | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Monasca Grafana deprecation notice https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788227 | 09:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/kolla failed: Disable trove for Debian/binary https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/787986 | 09:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Disable epel early https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788461 | 09:27 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: sorry, did not notice; I proposed a simpler, easily backportable one ^ | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Add Monasca Grafana deprecation notice https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788438 | 09:30 |
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| hrw | yoctozepto: it needs refresh anyway | 09:31 |
| yoctozepto | yeah | 09:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: centos: clean up repo enable/disable/keys https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765864 | 09:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: centos: do not install CentOS Rabbitmq twice on AArch64 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788462 | 09:35 |
| * hrw out | 09:36 | |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: [release] Tidy release notes for Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788432 | 09:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: cephadm: Set auth_allow_insecure_global_id_reclaim to true https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/787753 | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Bump up python version for Debian Bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/786591 | 09:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: cephadm: Set auth_allow_insecure_global_id_reclaim to true https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788439 | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Revert to binary images for nova https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788472 | 11:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Bump up python version for Debian Bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788442 | 11:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Bump up python version for Debian Bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788442 | 11:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/kayobe failed: Switch to reboot module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788238 | 11:08 |
| priteau | Is this new? ^^^ | 11:14 |
| priteau | I never noticed it before | 11:15 |
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| mnasiadka | yes, we added V-2 notifications priteau | 11:20 |
| mnasiadka | well, yoctozepto added :) | 11:20 |
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| yoctozepto | yeas, I did :-) | 11:22 |
| yoctozepto | V-2 help to notice things to recheck quickly | 11:23 |
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| hrw | morning | 11:34 |
| yoctozepto | hrw reset his day | 11:35 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: handled paperwork in two offices | 11:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe-config-dev master: Set os_distribution automatically https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe-config-dev/+/788475 | 11:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Ubuntu: add documentation & release note https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788476 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Ubuntu: CI: rely on os_distribution, remove interfaces pause https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788478 | 11:54 |
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| yoctozepto | ok, so CI fried by epel today? | 12:09 |
| hrw | looks like | 12:12 |
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| hrw | ok, CI passes | 12:26 |
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| mgoddard | mmm fried CI | 12:37 |
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| hrw | do you like smell of fried CI in the morning? | 12:40 |
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| dswebb | Hi All, quick question. In doing version upgrades with kolla-ansible, is it recommended that they be done in sequence (eg ussuri -> victoria -> wallaby) or is jumping of versions supported (eg, ussuri -> wallaby)? | 13:10 |
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| mnasiadka | in sequence | 13:12 |
| yoctozepto | ffu might easily break | 13:17 |
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| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: we don't support ffu, we don't even do ffu ;) | 13:25 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788439 - another one ;) | 13:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla master: centos: switch to RDO final release of Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/785622 | 13:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: centos: switch to RDO final release of Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788490 | 13:34 |
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| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: moved the RDO change to stable/wallaby - like we spoke yesterday | 13:38 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: unfortunately gerrit created a new change number, but Change-Id is the same ;) | 13:38 |
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| dswebb | mnasiadka, cheers | 13:41 |
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| jhorstmann | could someone maybe help me understand the current situation of rollout serialisation in k-a? we recently had some trouble, because of a short unavailability of the control plane during a heat stack upgrade running in parallel to `kolla-ansible deploy`. | 13:46 |
| mgoddard | kevko: you might want to chip in here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-April/022110.html | 13:50 |
| kevko | mgoddard: oh, thank you, I will | 13:51 |
| mgoddard | kevko: could be a good opportunity to collaborate | 13:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Ubuntu: define implied VLAN parent interfaces in networkd https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/787960 | 13:52 |
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| jhorstmann | we could probably deploy updated containers for each control node sequentially, but maybe there is some sort of locking mechanism for service restarts I have missed | 13:53 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: looking at the list from this mail, I think we forgot to talk about Ansible core vs Ansible base (with prepackaged collections) on Xena PTG | 13:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: move to Debian 'bullseye' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788304 | 13:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: releasenotes: we move to Debian bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788260 | 13:55 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: how much does it affect us? | 13:55 |
| mgoddard | kolla-ansible does not list it as an explicit dep | 13:55 |
| mgoddard | kayobe does, and installs ansible | 13:55 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: well, if we go ansible-core - then we need to install collections and move to those longer module names I think | 13:55 |
| mnasiadka | sooner or later we have to | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Bump up python version for Debian Bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788442 | 13:56 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: feel free to add to a meeting agenda | 13:56 |
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| kevko | mgoddard: one thing I wanted to ask | 14:02 |
| kevko | well, all of you | 14:02 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: ok, added | 14:03 |
| kevko | we have new client which has 15 regions worldwide .. and want to have token from keystone trusted in all regions -> so, get token in regionA and will be valid in regionB etc .. | 14:03 |
| kevko | so, i've tested it ..and if user-id and project-id are same in all regions ..only one thing has to be done ..fernet rotate and push mechanism | 14:04 |
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| kevko | currently fernet-push is pushing to all ips from keystone group .. | 14:04 |
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| mnasiadka | kevko: I don't think we are keystone experts, have you tried asking on #openstack-keystone? It seems like something that has already been investigated in edge deployments - so Edge WG also can have some experience with it. But others may have better answers :) | 14:09 |
| kevko | well, it's not that hard :) | 14:09 |
| kevko | i know how to implement ..but it will be needed to change kolla-ansible little bit to support this .. | 14:11 |
| kevko | more precisely said ..change one line in kolla-ansible template | 14:11 |
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| mgoddard | kevko: it might not be hard to do what you suggest, but have you considered if it is the best thing to do? | 14:20 |
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| mgoddard | kevko: typically we'd suggest federation for that use case | 14:20 |
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| kevko | mgoddard: well, federation is something little bit different | 14:33 |
| mgoddard | it is | 14:34 |
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| mnasiadka | that’s why I mentioned edge - keystone to keystone federation was one of their recommendations I think | 14:51 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/782308 - maybe it won’t fail in gate ;) | 14:51 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak parallax Fl1nt | 14:51 |
| mgoddard | ^ meeting in 1- | 14:51 |
| mgoddard | 10 | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Ubuntu: CI: rely on os_distribution, remove interfaces pause https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788478 | 14:57 |
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| hrw | meeting in 2? | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Switch to reboot module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788238 | 14:59 |
| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 28 15:00:49 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:00 |
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| yoctozepto | \o/ | 15:01 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:01 | |
| mnasiadka | o/ | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | \o\ | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | /o/ | 15:02 |
| hrw | [o] | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | ]o[ | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | Oo/ | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | ooh, is that a baby head? | 15:02 |
| priteau | \o/ | 15:02 |
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| wuchunyang | o | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Agenda | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Xena PTG completed https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-xena-ptg | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Kolla Wallaby RC1 & stable/wallaby created | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from the last meeting | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * CI status | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Wallaby release planning | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Deprecate the Tempest image | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Xena cycle planning | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Ansible (prepackaged collections) vs ansible-base/core | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | ** Ansible 2.10 and auto transformation of invalid group names (https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/56930) | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | * Open discussion | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:05 | |
| mgoddard | #info Xena PTG completed | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-xena-ptg | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard to write up Xena PTG summary for openstack-discuss | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla Wallaby RC1 & stable/wallaby created | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | The master branch is still frozen for features | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | and in launchpad as well | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | indeed, thanks | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | Any others? | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | not really | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | small one | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | #info OpenStack wallaby released | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | #link https://www.openstack.org/software/wallaby/ | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | #link https://docs.openstack.org/wallaby/ | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | #topic Review action items from the last meeting | 15:07 |
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| * yoctozepto thinks we had it announced already | 15:07 | |
| yoctozepto | but meh | 15:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: neutron: Remove vmware-nsx and networking-mlx from binary https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788455 | 15:08 |
| yoctozepto | gerrit slow | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard email openstack-discuss about quay.io credentials | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto deprecate enable_host_ntp | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard still did not | 15:08 |
| * yoctozepto did it | 15:08 | |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard email openstack-discuss about quay.io credentials | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:08 | |
| yoctozepto | and now in wallaby | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | oh well, gerrit slow | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Deprecate enable_host_ntp https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788516 | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | Kolla looks ok from the whiteboard | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | I wonder if monasca-grafana still fails | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | it does | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | we are dropping it | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | just cleaned the issues on kolla, yes | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | ;-) | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | well, we have deprecated it in Wallaby | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | not dropped just yet | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | yes | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | are we still seeing that 'Operation not permitted' issue on Centos stream? | 15:14 |
| mnasiadka | I haven’t | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | I have not either, must have got fixed | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | cephadm neither, no? | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka? | 15:15 |
| mnasiadka | Yup | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | I remember we joked about it | 15:15 |
| mnasiadka | Only Ubuntu | 15:15 |
| mnasiadka | But that is getting worked around | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | rmq also quite stable | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | just remember we have the staggered upgrade | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | if it starts again | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | Ubuntu upgrade in UCA change | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | But today it did not fail | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: just rechecked it | 15:17 |
| mnasiadka | If it won’t fail it’s good to go | 15:17 |
| mnasiadka | So no persistent CI issues | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I approved it :/ | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | the prometheus alertmanager one sounds worthy of a bug | 15:18 |
| mnasiadka | I’m thinking if we should raise bugs for CI issues with CI tag | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | who would like to create one? | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | prometheus yes | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | #action yoctozepto create a bug for alertmanager issue | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | CI tag seems like a good idea | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | although let's not assume it means CI only | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | but prometheus is not only in CI | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | indeed | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | though the others are | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | I will report bug on prometheus | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | k | 15:20 |
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| yoctozepto | and not the others | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | what's the tacker/aodh one? | 15:20 |
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| yoctozepto | just I am not fixing nfv if nobody cares | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | missing from GATE_IMAGES? | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | needs to add aodh to the built images | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | yes ;-) | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | k | 15:21 |
| * yoctozepto was waiting for nfv caring ppl | 15:21 | |
| mnasiadka | Drop nfv job? | 15:21 |
| mnasiadka | If nobody cares? | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard fix one line nfv job | 15:22 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: seemingly mgoddard cared enough :D | 15:22 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: good for him:) | 15:22 |
| yoctozepto | good for mgoddard indeed | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | care enough to fix one line | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | And then you’ll realise you opened a box of issues?:) | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | I think kayobe CI is fine now, thanks to priteau for fixing this week's fire | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | #topic Wallaby release planning | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Wallaby release planning (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:24 | |
| mgoddard | First item: Deprecate the Tempest image? | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | and presumably rally with it? | 15:24 |
| mnasiadka | Rally is being used | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/victoria: Disable Bifrost cleaning by default https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788281 | 15:25 |
| mnasiadka | At least by me :) | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | Why would we delete one without the other? | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | s/delete/deprecate/ | 15:25 |
| yoctozepto | why not? | 15:25 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: rally doesn’t use tempest docker image? | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | no, but if tempest is out of scope for kolla then so is rally | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | Rally installs tempest during runtime | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: can we just document | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | how to use them | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | from a regular venv? | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | how they are normally used 99.9% of the time | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | Why would we document it? | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | Is it Kolla or Tempest/Rally? | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | s/document/link to the proper documentation | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | in that sense I would drop both | 15:27 |
| yoctozepto | well, deprecate in W and drop in X | 15:27 |
| yoctozepto | but you know the drill :-) | 15:27 |
| hrw | quick job | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | personally I don't think kolla is the right place for them, and we don't do a great job with them | 15:28 |
| yoctozepto | we do no job with them | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | OTOH, it seems some people use them | 15:28 |
| yoctozepto | but these are clients | 15:28 |
| yoctozepto | we will never deploy them as services ;-) | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | k-a has roles for them | 15:28 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, but they are not services | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | rally is a bit more than a client - it has state. Agreed it's not a service though | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | perhaps a spinoff project? | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | with only the master branch | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | we can pull it off ;-) | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | kolla-stressor | 15:31 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: and you will be PTL there to stress yourself | 15:31 |
| mgoddard | https://opendev.org/openstack/rally/src/branch/master/DOCKER_README.md | 15:31 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: no, under kolla we have one PTL - the great mgoddard | 15:31 |
| yoctozepto | all others are just usurpers | 15:31 |
| yoctozepto | ok, just link to the documentation | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | and we are golden | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | who is with me | 15:32 |
| jovial[m] | Personally I find docker execing into a sleep infinity container a bit clunky | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | We normally try to get some feedback before going for deprecation | 15:33 |
| hrw | deprecate++ | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | deprecate > feedback | 15:34 |
| hrw | mgoddard: we may deprecate in W and hold with dropping | 15:34 |
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| mgoddard | ok | 15:34 |
| hrw | in worst case we de-deprecate it | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | hrw++ | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | we don't have to drop right away | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | just during the cycle | 15:34 |
| mgoddard | but I feel feel that rally and tempest are in the same bucket | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard++ | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | deprecate both | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | *still | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka may be unhappy | 15:35 |
| mnasiadka | Well, I have one year to update a simple playbook | 15:35 |
| mnasiadka | I’ll manage | 15:35 |
| hrw | we have gazillion of images. we marked some as 'maybe someone support but not us' | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | ok, let's move on | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: mnasiadka will be better off with the common way rather than sleep infinity | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | #action yoctozepto deprecate rally & tempest | 15:36 |
| yoctozepto | what an honor, sir! | 15:36 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I like sleeping! | 15:36 |
| * yoctozepto Lord Deprecator | 15:36 | |
| mgoddard | now onto actual wallaby release stuff :) | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | 15:36 |
| hrw | Bullseye is in ;D | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | L166 | 15:36 |
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| yoctozepto | merging, merging | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | hmm | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | why did we abandon https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/785622 ? | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | (centos-release-openstack-wallaby on master) | 15:39 |
| hrw | yoctozepto, mnasiadka: your work | 15:40 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: we do it directly on wallaby | 15:40 |
| yoctozepto | pointless on master since branched | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | I thought we were planning to keep master == wallaby for a while this cycle? | 15:41 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: well, it would make things like the bifrost job irrelevant | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | I guess what we need is | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | k-a testing voting with w images | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | but this is just RDO packages | 15:42 |
| mnasiadka | We already have RDO packages in master | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: won't we revert all other kolla changes? | 15:43 |
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| yoctozepto | to get kolla master == world master ? | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | this is Xena chat. Let's revisit later | 15:43 |
| mnasiadka | And we didn’t conclude on the approach for master | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, perhaps we misunderstood | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | let's chat later | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | some things still merging on master | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | as we want them there | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | and then backported to wallaby | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | some pending merge on wallaby/stable | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fkolla+branch:stable%252Fwallaby | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | well, stable/wallaby | 15:44 |
| * yoctozepto head spin | 15:44 | |
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| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fkolla-ansible+branch:stable%252Fwallaby | 15:45 |
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| mgoddard | kevko: do you have time to address the mariadb shards docs? | 15:45 |
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| hrw | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/784923 - do we want sorted-out APT keys in wallaby? | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | we may | 15:48 |
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| mgoddard | seems like a big change for this point in the cycle | 15:49 |
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| mnasiadka | Does it affect users? | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | well, then we need to revert that deprecation | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | as we know it's phony | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | which deprecation? | 15:50 |
| hrw | should not affect as repos are the same | 15:50 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: the one reverted in that commit | 15:50 |
| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/784923/15/releasenotes/notes/deprecate-apt-keys-eff6e68272923b6b.yaml | 15:50 |
| hrw | ah. have to rephrase it to version in 10th revision | 15:50 |
| hrw | or rewrite | 15:51 |
| hrw | as it turns out that apt_keys will stay with us for longer ;( | 15:51 |
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| mgoddard | looks like we need to revert that deprecation then | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "deprecate use of GnuPG ids for APT keys" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788519 | 15:54 |
| hrw | done | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | fast | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | I think that unless there is some nice benefit to the change in APT key usage we should keep it for Xena | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | approved | 15:55 |
| hrw | mgoddard: and we need https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/784923 for that - so we have keys linked to repos | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | we have other big changes going on | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | hrw: I thought that's the patch we're talking about | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | big boys with their big... changes | 15:56 |
| hrw | mgoddard: si | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | almost out of time for this week | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | #topic Open discussion | 15:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:57 | |
| headphoneJames | can I get some initial reviews for: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/787420 | 15:57 |
| headphoneJames | broke up the LE work | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | what happened to the old patch? | 15:58 |
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| headphoneJames | still there, not yet abandoned | 15:59 |
| headphoneJames | if more useful, I can rework this into the old one | 15:59 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: what happened with the Xena topics? | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: out of time | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | next week | 16:00 |
| mnasiadka | ok then | 16:00 |
| yoctozepto | need to push wallaby | 16:00 |
| yoctozepto | thanks mgoddard for chairing | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | headphoneJames: it might be nice to keep the history, but it's up to you | 16:00 |
| hrw | push wallaby and then days of new development before moving to Xena sources/binaries | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | perhaps you're tired of that patch number :) | 16:00 |
| mnasiadka | hrw: development before going on vacation you mean ;) | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | Thanks all | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://bit.ly/2MM7mWF | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 28 16:01:47 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-04-28-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-04-28-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-04-28-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: sort of | 16:01 |
| * hrw out | 16:01 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: centos: switch to RDO final release of Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788490 | 16:03 |
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| mnasiadka | interesting, UCA change is rechecking and gating at the same time | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Cleanup CentOS repo installation on aarch64 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788539 | 16:10 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, I did not notice that mgoddard issued a recheck | 16:11 |
| yoctozepto | whichever wins now | 16:11 |
| mnasiadka | the upgrade failed on recheck | 16:11 |
| mnasiadka | wonder what will happen if the gate is green | 16:12 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: it will merge | 16:12 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I can w-1 | 16:12 |
| mnasiadka | well, we don't really know why floating ip sometimes doesn't work | 16:12 |
| yoctozepto | but only on upgrade? | 16:13 |
| mnasiadka | only | 16:13 |
| mnasiadka | and it's single node, so a lot of things can go wrong I guess | 16:13 |
| mnasiadka | by the way | 16:14 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: you meant "*not* many to go wrong" ;-) | 16:14 |
| mnasiadka | did we loose cephadm jobs on every commit? | 16:14 |
| yoctozepto | if it's singlenode heh | 16:14 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: did we? | 16:14 |
| mnasiadka | seems kolla doesn't run cephadm jobs | 16:14 |
| yoctozepto | oh lol what again | 16:14 |
| yoctozepto | naming issue most likely | 16:14 |
| yoctozepto | ah no, they are only run | 16:15 |
| yoctozepto | when needed | 16:15 |
| yoctozepto | (cinder touched etc.) | 16:15 |
| mnasiadka | oh okay | 16:15 |
| mnasiadka | ah right, we've moved some to experimental | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | when we move to hrw's way of changing Dockerfile instead of sources.list | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | then Zuul will run those | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: they just have these file guards | 16:16 |
| mnasiadka | but something is wrong | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | oh, yes | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | you are totally right | 16:16 |
| mnasiadka | files: ^docker\/(base|cinder|glance|mariadb|openstack-base|rabbitmq)\/.* | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | they should get triggered if they were not experimental | 16:17 |
| mnasiadka | we changed docker/base/sources.list | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | my bad | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | yes | 16:17 |
| * yoctozepto blind | 16:17 | |
| mnasiadka | so we need to move them out of experimental? | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: no, we can issue them on deman | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | demand( | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | demand* | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | just dif | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | did* | 16:17 |
| mnasiadka | well, are you really certain we will remember it next time? | 16:18 |
| mnasiadka | upgrade in gate failed as well | 16:18 |
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| yoctozepto | we surely will not | 16:18 |
| mnasiadka | but now we'll get two ubuntu upgrade jobs | 16:18 |
| yoctozepto | well, I w-1 anyway | 16:18 |
| mnasiadka | if it will help with anything | 16:18 |
| yoctozepto | let's wait for multinode results | 16:19 |
| yoctozepto | perhaps they shed some light | 16:19 |
| yoctozepto | or not | 16:19 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: so maybe we should move them out of experimental, if they are triggered on file changes... and I think we need them | 16:19 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: aye, we moved them away because of the fires | 16:19 |
| yoctozepto | as it took ages to merge fixes | 16:20 |
| mnasiadka | well, we remove fire here, but get another fire somewhere else :) | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Will Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Honor custom ssh args in kayobe-ansible-user.yml https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/788276 | 16:21 |
| yoctozepto | wise words, wise words | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla master: CI: Remove kolla_python_version from Debian/Ubuntu jobs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788550 | 16:24 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: ^^ | 16:24 |
| mnasiadka | funny we never removed it after upgrading to Focal 10 months ago :D | 16:25 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: approved | 16:25 |
| yoctozepto | guess why | 16:25 |
| yoctozepto | we were fighting fires ;-) | 16:25 |
| mnasiadka | ok then, let's wait for UCA multinode upgrade results and try to tackle that tomorrow | 16:27 |
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| Anthraxs | How can I determine what Openstack version do I have installed? | 16:30 |
| Anthraxs | When I first started to configure Openstack it was Victoria, so I left the #openstack_release: "master" variable commented. I just finished with all the configuration, and now I have no clue what version I have. I'm assuming that some services are from Wallaby, some from Victoria... | 16:30 |
| Anthraxs | Is there any way to check this? | 16:30 |
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| yoctozepto | ooh, you got yourself into one of the openstack nightmares (tm) | 16:35 |
| Anthraxs | why is that?:D care to elaborate please? i'm still new to openstack and kolla-ansible | 16:37 |
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| yoctozepto | because there is no easy way to check that now | 16:40 |
| yoctozepto | master is a moving target :-) | 16:40 |
| yoctozepto | you can go to each container and check what versions of software they have | 16:40 |
| yoctozepto | `pip list` will help with openstack components | 16:40 |
| yoctozepto | package manager listings for others | 16:40 |
| yoctozepto | and then map the versions to the ones in actual victoria-wallaby images | 16:41 |
| Anthraxs | would it work if I would just change the openstack_release to victoria (the desired one) and then run de koll-ansible deploy command? | 16:41 |
| yoctozepto | if it got wallaby migrations in the database, then that would not work | 16:42 |
| Anthraxs | that makes sense.. | 16:42 |
| yoctozepto | first of all, you should really grab a kolla-ansible version that is for the desired release | 16:42 |
| yoctozepto | the wallaby one is still WIP | 16:42 |
| yoctozepto | so your best bet is victoria still | 16:42 |
| yoctozepto | then that would default to victoria images | 16:42 |
| yoctozepto | and understand what victoria is | 16:43 |
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| Anthraxs | not sure if this is a good way, but I think I can filter the docker images by label: | 16:48 |
| Anthraxs | root@victoria:~# docker images --filter "label=kolla_version=12.1.0" or root@victoria:~# docker images --filter "label=kolla_version=11.1.0" | 16:48 |
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| yoctozepto | yeah, that's a rough filter | 16:53 |
| yoctozepto | it just doesn't take into account the interim periods | 16:53 |
| yoctozepto | but might be just enough for your issue | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/kolla failed: [release] Use UCA Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/782308 | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: CI: Remove kolla_python_version from Debian/Ubuntu jobs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788550 | 16:56 |
| Anthraxs | great, thanks for your time, have a good one | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: [CI] Fix Ubuntu cephadm jobs names https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/788563 | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Deprecate enable_host_ntp https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/788516 | 18:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: [release] Use UCA Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/782308 | 21:35 |
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