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cvstealth | Hi all, our deployment right now is making using of a heavily modified version of Kolla. We are looking at making the step towards Kayobe so that we can start to manage direct baremetal, but from the looks of things it doesn't currently support a fully routed l3 topology. Is that an accurate assement based on the documentation I've read? | 02:14 |
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yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/774622/13 - cores, approve now | 07:03 |
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parallax | I'm just wondering - why container-oriented project isn't using containers in CI for tests - wouldn't it extinguish some of the fires? linters are great candidate for this | 07:30 |
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mnasiadka | I don't think linters are failing, because we are running them not in containers :) | 08:11 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: second thing is - I think requiring a space before comment is yamllint default | 08:16 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: that might be true but you know the case with etc/ is that comments indeed follow this rule but example commented-out values do not | 08:21 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I think there should be a way to add this to skip_list or exclude that path in ansible lint config | 08:22 |
mnasiadka | but indeed the --user approach is fugly... | 08:22 |
yoctozepto | parallax: we indeed extinguish some fires by being kolla and not osa :-) | 08:22 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: nah, that entry in tox for linters is fine | 08:22 |
yoctozepto | but the ansible installation is indeed funky | 08:22 |
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yoctozepto | we should move towards a venv finally | 08:23 |
yoctozepto | I would if I had time | 08:23 |
yoctozepto | perhaps later this week | 08:23 |
yoctozepto | currently focused on machine learning ;-) | 08:23 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: just approve that fix for now and let the CI work | 08:25 |
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parallax | mnasiadka: I'm talking about installing dependencies on the fly with every run instead of having them frozen in a static, battle-tested image | 08:26 |
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mnasiadka | parallax: and we get bug raised by people that get something else installed? nah :) | 08:45 |
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hrw | morning | 08:55 |
hrw | parallax: running docker in docker is iirc not quite supported | 08:57 |
hrw | ok, so main fsckup fixer is at gate | 09:01 |
hrw | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/774351 - vote! | 09:01 |
hrw | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/774602 | 09:01 |
mgoddard | morning | 09:01 |
hrw | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/772507 would be also nice and can be done during morning coffee/drink + doughnut | 09:02 |
* mgoddard waiting for doughnut | 09:03 | |
hrw | mgoddard: there are two waiting in my kitchen. feel free to grab one | 09:04 |
mgoddard | very kind | 09:04 |
mnasiadka | yeah, doughnut day in Poland | 09:08 |
hrw | Fat Thursday | 09:09 |
hrw | mgoddard: is Pancake Tuesday still celebrated in uk? | 09:10 |
mgoddard | hrw: yes - next week! | 09:10 |
hrw | ;) | 09:13 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: fix ceph-ansible installation after cryptography 3.4 release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/775082 | 09:19 |
mnasiadka | oh boy | 09:20 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DNM: Test all scenarios https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/775083 | 09:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Adapt to changes from the Bifrost Victoria release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772607 | 10:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: fix kolla-ansible installation after cryptography 3.4 release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/774622 | 10:19 |
yoctozepto | ya-hoo | 10:23 |
hrw | uf. | 10:23 |
hrw | so now is time to review all other fixes... | 10:24 |
openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Update IPA docs and test build with extra-hardware https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/775093 | 10:24 |
yoctozepto | looking for reviewers on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/773257 | 10:24 |
yoctozepto | (a bugfix) | 10:24 |
hrw | +2 | 10:25 |
openstackgerrit | Giacomo Lanciano proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix monasca-grafana check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/774531 | 10:28 |
yoctozepto | thx hrw | 10:30 |
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hrw | yoctozepto: thank by reviewing ;D | 11:05 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: CI: add Ubuntu overcloud deploy job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/767705 | 11:11 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: CI: add Ubuntu seed VM job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/775119 | 11:11 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: only run cells job on changes to nova role https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/774894 | 11:15 |
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Fl1nt | Hi everyone! | 11:16 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: [docs] Improve contributor's automated setup document https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/774777 | 11:17 |
Fl1nt | mnasiadka, I've stumble upon a ceph monitors weird logging that you seems had a few months ago using ceph-ansible install. I'd like to know if you finally found out what is this all about or just goes with it? | 11:18 |
Fl1nt | https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/42053 | 11:18 |
Fl1nt | I've got the exact same log (no issue the cluster is healthy and correctly operating) | 11:19 |
Fl1nt | I would love to no more about this issue if you have any more information tho ^^ | 11:20 |
mnasiadka | that might be related to this https://github.com/ceph/ceph-container/issues/1396 IIRC | 11:20 |
mnasiadka | if you're running a containerized deployment of course | 11:20 |
Fl1nt | yep | 11:20 |
Fl1nt | mnasiadka, aaaaah ok, perfect, I know what's going on so ^^ thanks, I'll update our images and update the cluster, cool many many thanks! | 11:22 |
Fl1nt | perfect, v4.0.18 stable-4.0 nautilus CentOS-7 is having the patch! | 11:27 |
Fl1nt | https://hub.docker.com/layers/ceph/daemon/v4.0.18-stable-4.0-nautilus-centos-7/images/sha256-e6754787bfdb952806e52d2e45e4e8dce3296bf4aab375420a4c06e90af205e7?context=explore | 11:27 |
Fl1nt | & | 11:28 |
Fl1nt | https://github.com/ceph/ceph-container/blob/stable-4.0/src/daemon-base/__CEPH_BASE_PACKAGES__ | 11:28 |
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yoctozepto | hrw: link me to where you want me to review | 11:31 |
hrw | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/774351 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/774602 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/772507 are my main ones | 11:34 |
hrw | I forgot which one you acked | 11:34 |
yoctozepto | looking | 11:34 |
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yoctozepto | hrw: all +2 | 11:36 |
hrw | thx | 11:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Ubuntu: container image build https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/775129 | 12:01 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Ubuntu: update Apt cache before package installation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/775130 | 12:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Wait for overcloud manage and provide state transitions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/775135 | 12:04 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Remove patch from kolla-ansible dependencies https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/775136 | 12:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Remove trailing whitespace https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772681 | 13:00 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/victoria: Adapt to changes from the Bifrost Victoria release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/774056 | 13:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: fix ceph-ansible installation after cryptography 3.4 release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/775082 | 13:11 |
yoctozepto | cores ~> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/775082 | 13:13 |
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hrw | +w+2 | 13:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Maksim Malchuk proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Correctly configure S3 Token Middleware for Swift https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/774791 | 13:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Refactor mariadb to support shards https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/766952 | 13:42 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Rename role haproxy to loadbalancer https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770618 | 13:42 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add proxysql support for database https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770215 | 13:42 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Edit services roles to support database sharding https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770216 | 13:42 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Test ProxySQL with shards in the nova cells scenario https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770621 | 13:42 |
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Fl1nt | team, need to get some insight from you all with this nasty CentOS-8 -> CentOS Stream move, so basically, what is your feeling about it? Which distrib do you use currently as your infrastructure base? I really want to stick with RH, but I'm really not confident on CentOS stability once it will became being upstream of RHL | 13:59 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DNM: Test all scenarios https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/775083 | 14:03 |
mgoddard | Fl1nt: still watching and waitng | 14:08 |
Fl1nt | yeah, I'm having a bad feeling on this one, and I've security guys that are try to knock heavily at my door ^^ | 14:09 |
Fl1nt | but in the mean time ubuntu is really not stable enough. | 14:09 |
Fl1nt | correction | 14:09 |
Fl1nt | ubuntu doesn't feel stable/strong enough and try to introduce weird shit that no one is using such as plan... | 14:10 |
kevko_ | Fl1nt: for docker host or for Openstack images ? (just asking) | 14:11 |
Fl1nt | both ^^ | 14:11 |
kevko_ | Fl1nt: i love debian :D ..so I'm prefering debian ..or let's say debian-like distros :D | 14:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: CI: add Ubuntu seed VM job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/775119 | 14:16 |
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Fl1nt | kevko_, I really like Debian BUT it lack for descent systemd and nmcli support | 14:27 |
Fl1nt | additionally I would really take benefit of podman and systemd unit like container management ^^ | 14:27 |
kevko_ | understand | 14:40 |
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hrw | Fl1nt: we will move to Stream in Wallaby. And will it differ much? | 15:02 |
hrw | Fl1nt: you used some points in rhel development in past and will have points with stream. just before they were called 'centos release' and it would be 'centos of a day I built an image' | 15:03 |
hrw | Fl1nt: Debian buster has systemd 247 in backports. My Fedora 33 has 246... | 15:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Bartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: rsync package added - dependency to synchronize ansible module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/775188 | 15:09 |
hrw | Fl1nt: and what you mean as 'descent nmcli support'? | 15:09 |
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hrw | Fl1nt: and podman support is something Kolla has on a list for few releases so far. Just no one works on it | 15:16 |
Fl1nt | hrw, I know about podman as I proposed to work on it and started few plan already based on what marc already tried. | 15:17 |
hrw | and when it comes to Debian - I would go with bullseye for host. Hard Freeze is one month from now so there should be no big changes after that date | 15:18 |
Fl1nt | My concern is, as soon as CentOS became Stream and so upstream of RHEL it will FOR SURE 100% SURE be less stable than RHEL itself and so less stable than currently as you don't came from stable basement anymore but from an intermediary state in between development (Fedora) and prod ready (RHEL) | 15:18 |
Fl1nt | I can't just said, ok stream seems to be stable on some other clouds and push it on our infrastructure, we're hosting national wide critical systems. | 15:20 |
hrw | buy rhel licenses? | 15:20 |
Fl1nt | We already do it | 15:20 |
hrw | in 'national wide critical systems' budget it will probably be nearly not visible cost | 15:20 |
Fl1nt | it is | 15:20 |
Fl1nt | RHEL licensing price is dumb shit, not as far as Oracle but still. | 15:21 |
hrw | not my department ;d | 15:21 |
Fl1nt | Don't make me wrong, software quality have to be paid, I do personally agree on that, and I'm really supportive of RH products, but unfortunately, financials guys don't see it as this. | 15:22 |
Fl1nt | what is the current RHEL support on Kolla/Kolla-ansible? Didn't tested it since a while. | 15:23 |
hrw | no idea to be honest | 15:24 |
hrw | I do not remember when last time I looked at it | 15:24 |
hrw | INFO:kolla.common.utils.base:Step 1/35 : FROM rhel:8 | 15:26 |
hrw | ;( | 15:26 |
hrw | ERROR:kolla.common.utils.base:Error'd with the following message | 15:27 |
Fl1nt | One thing that I really hate with RHEL is the filesystem hierarchy that it put on system with optional and supplementary repositories like inception of /etc or /usr etc within /opt >< | 15:27 |
hrw | ERROR:kolla.common.utils.base:pull access denied for rhel, repository does not exist or may require 'docker login': denied: requested access to the resource is denied | 15:27 |
Fl1nt | arff ^^ start to smell bad :p | 15:27 |
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hrw | I have a fix for it in other patch | 15:29 |
Fl1nt | let me know if you get something working, really interested. | 15:32 |
mgoddard | debian/ubuntu users: how do you configure the network on your servers? | 15:34 |
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hrw | mgoddard: systemd-networkd | 15:39 |
kevko_ | mgoddard: netplan | 15:39 |
mgoddard | hrw: have you/would you ever use NetworkManager? | 15:39 |
hrw | mgoddard: on server? what for? | 15:40 |
mgoddard | hrw: consistency with CentOS | 15:40 |
hrw | I use NM on desktop/laptop. but my server is on same IP always so why bother. ipv4 set to DHCP, ipv6 to static address | 15:41 |
hrw | I had a day when I moved several things to systemd daemons. network config, dns, timedate etc | 15:43 |
hrw | Fl1nt: distro=rhel type=rhos is basically broken | 15:43 |
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hrw | distro=rhel type=binary probably would be rdo so why bother | 15:44 |
hrw | mgoddard: I think that it would be good to find out does anyone uses distro=rhel and if not then remove it | 15:45 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: I use on some | 15:45 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: NM on ubuntu? | 15:45 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: on centos, sorry if it was meant to be about ubuntu | 15:46 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: either way, what is your opinion of it? | 15:46 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: it improved greatly in recent times | 15:46 |
yoctozepto | much less painful | 15:46 |
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mnasiadka | mgoddard: I would still opt for using systemd-networkd on both centos and Debian/Ubuntu ;) | 16:19 |
mgoddard | mnasiadka: not available on CentOS | 16:19 |
mgoddard | well, only in EPEL | 16:19 |
mgoddard | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650342 | 16:20 |
openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1650342 in systemd "systemd-networkd support in RHEL 8" [Unspecified,Closed: wontfix] - Assigned to systemd-maint | 16:20 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: I used it in 7 ;) | 16:20 |
Fl1nt | hrw, ok, I guess, I'll pass my turn with k/k-a on RHEL | 16:20 |
mgoddard | mnasiadka: yes, it got removed | 16:20 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: bloody Red Hat | 16:20 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: well, I agree with the comment in BZ that NM is a complex monstrosity. | 16:21 |
mnasiadka | so maybe using EPEL package is not THAT bad | 16:21 |
Fl1nt | hrw, we do use NM as it's really neat and usefull when dealing with host hw management through ansible ;-) additionally, we need specific configuration on teaming etc. | 16:21 |
Fl1nt | mnasiadka, meh? nm is a monstruosity? As for systemd back in good ol'day he he, I really like nm, consistent command/args structure, support everything from wlan to teaming/infiniband etc. | 16:23 |
mnasiadka | Fl1nt: usually I end up with 7 connections called "Wired connection" and stopping it blows the whole box :) | 16:24 |
mnasiadka | I feel like running Windows | 16:24 |
mnasiadka | While with systemd-networkd there are just plain simple config files, used it in CentOS 7 and CoreOS | 16:25 |
Fl1nt | well, that just the naming label of the connection, just change the connection.id and voila ^^ | 16:25 |
mnasiadka | well, probably given enough care - it works | 16:25 |
mnasiadka | But installing NM on Debian/Ubuntu is probably another weird thing to do... | 16:25 |
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Fl1nt | sometimes, Windows is ahead of linux in terms of OPs, having to manage plain text is sometimes useful, sometimes truly a pain in the ass. for networking, it's a pain in the ass. | 16:26 |
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Fl1nt | mnasiadka, yes, agree, using nm on debian is weird and I doubt it would be as solid as on CentOS. Ubuntu loads with nm managed by plan by default ^^ | 16:26 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: yes, networkd is much nicer on servers | 16:27 |
yoctozepto | networkmanager has a ton of bloat | 16:27 |
yoctozepto | but, let's be honest | 16:27 |
Fl1nt | exemple yoctozepto ? | 16:27 |
yoctozepto | anything is better than "the old way" | 16:27 |
Fl1nt | thanks ^^ | 16:27 |
yoctozepto | Fl1nt: networkmanager wants you to be able to set up ppp, tunnels and wifi | 16:28 |
Fl1nt | definitely my point, INI style network management is a pain for manual operation, automated operation and development interaction, you always need to either integrate inotify or reload your process... let's use proper modern DB | 16:28 |
yoctozepto | I don't need it on servers, like, 99.9% of time | 16:28 |
yoctozepto | but otherwise networkmanager is much stabler than it used to be | 16:29 |
yoctozepto | I remember disabling it just because it was acting weirdly | 16:29 |
yoctozepto | then "the old way" was better than having random drops of connectivity | 16:29 |
mnasiadka | well, netplan seems like a nice abstraction that supports both systemd-networkd and NM - but no package on CentOS :D | 16:30 |
Fl1nt | meh? You just have an additional 30Ko code per feature added and not REQUIRED to use them. However configuring a team a vlan a vxlan or a macvlan or even controlling openvswitch is simple and can be instrumented correctly on ansible etc | 16:30 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well, NM had this really irritating part of trying to grasp all wired devices and enable them in the most weird order :) | 16:30 |
Fl1nt | solved now a day as it's using udev indirectly. | 16:31 |
mnasiadka | using OVS ports when OVS is running in a container is a crazy thing to do btw :) | 16:31 |
Fl1nt | but all in all netplan can be ok, that's a yaml wrapper to nm/networkd/other after all, but try to disable DHCPd on cloudinit using plan ;-) | 16:31 |
Fl1nt | you'll feel the burn | 16:32 |
Fl1nt | what do you mean by using an OVS port? Manage it? | 16:32 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: ah, yes, and that funny behaviour | 16:32 |
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yoctozepto | well, thankfully it's much less painful nowadays | 16:32 |
amoralej | hrw, https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2021-February/076503.html | 16:32 |
yoctozepto | so I don't disable it by default | 16:32 |
mnasiadka | Fl1nt: using an OVS port on the host operating system, that is running OVS in a container :) | 16:33 |
Fl1nt | if you just send traffic through it it's fine, what's not is to fuck up with config from outside the container for sure. | 16:33 |
mgoddard | nice, thanks for sharing amoralej! | 16:34 |
mgoddard | hrw: ^ | 16:34 |
amoralej | i hope that helps | 16:34 |
mgoddard | this sounds like a fun way to live: | 16:34 |
mgoddard | We expect the 'stream' tag to automatically move forward to new Streams as | 16:34 |
mgoddard | they come on board. This means when CentOS Stream 9 becomes the Live Stream, | 16:34 |
mgoddard | quay.io/centos/centos:stream will have 9 based content. | 16:34 |
kevko_ | guys, did anyone fixed issue with heat signal which was sent BUT in log of os-collect-config i see , 'Response None \n' | 16:35 |
amoralej | mgoddard, "The 'stream8' tag can be used while Stream 8 is Live" :) | 16:36 |
mgoddard | amoralej: right, I'm just joking | 16:36 |
amoralej | :) | 16:37 |
Fl1nt | On my personnal interest, it's not about "point in time" vs "rolling release" that I'm afraid but more the stability of Stream as it's now no longer derivated from a "stable and tested" distribution. | 16:37 |
Fl1nt | But that seems really weird to get rolling releases using tags on docker but not anywhere else tbh | 16:38 |
hrw | amoralej: yay! thanks! | 16:39 |
hrw | let me use it | 16:39 |
mnasiadka | Fl1nt: I'm rather thinking about a ,,race'' condition during bootup :) | 16:39 |
hrw | INFO:kolla.common.utils.base:Building started at 2021-02-11 17:40:46.905090 | 16:40 |
hrw | INFO:kolla.common.utils.base:Step 1/38 : FROM quay.io/centos/centos:stream8 | 16:40 |
hrw | INFO:kolla.common.utils.base:Successfully tagged stream-11/centos-source-base:11.1.0 | 16:42 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: WIP: switch to CentOS 8 Stream https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/772841 | 16:43 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: WIP: switch to CentOS 8 Stream https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/772841 | 16:44 |
hrw | this time without debian/ubuntu ci | 16:44 |
Fl1nt | mnasiadka, that's what I call managing :D But yeah of course you don't do dumb shit like that ^^ nm by default don't manage nic that are containerized etc so there is no issue here but yeah COULD be an issue if you throw yourself away in a fire pit ^^ | 16:45 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DNM: Test all scenarios https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/775083 | 16:49 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard: let yourself be engulfed in the stream | 16:54 |
yoctozepto | that should be the motto | 16:55 |
yoctozepto | amoralej: feel free to get inspired ^ | 16:55 |
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amoralej | yoctozepto, the stream drags us :) | 16:58 |
kevko_ | mgoddard: are u sure that ci is really fixed ? for me review which was passing now failing somehow .. | 17:00 |
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yoctozepto | kevko_: what is the error | 17:06 |
yoctozepto | amoralej: haha | 17:07 |
kevko_ | yoctozepto: hmm, in the end it is another error | 17:11 |
amoralej | yoctozepto, it could also be, enjoy in a calm stream :) | 17:11 |
kevko_ | yoctozepto: but, it is maxretryerror in os-collect-config | 17:12 |
kevko_ | yoctozepto: oh, are u asking for ci ? :D | 17:12 |
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yoctozepto | amoralej|off: engulfing and dragging sounds more sincere though :-) | 17:55 |
yoctozepto | though I hope it will be calm enough | 17:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: WIP: switch to CentOS 8 Stream https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/772841 | 18:32 |
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hrw | CI jobs renamed, someone needs to look at ansible failures | 18:35 |
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openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla master: Add LetsEncrypt images for cert request/renewal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/741339 | 19:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: [DNM] Work in progress of multiple host image support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772609 | 21:20 |
openstackgerrit | Piotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kayobe master: [WIP] CI: Add Ubuntu seed job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/775267 | 21:32 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix monasca-grafana check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/774531 | 21:34 |
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