Wednesday, 2021-01-20

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openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Refactor mariadb to support shards  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76695200:34
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Rename role haproxy to loadbalancer  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77061800:34
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add proxysql support for database  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77021500:34
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Edit services roles to support database sharding  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77021600:34
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Enable proxysql test  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77062100:34
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kevkomorning :)08:57
mgoddardmorning09:08
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add proxysql support for database  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77021509:10
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Edit services roles to support database sharding  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77021609:10
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Enable proxysql test  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77062109:10
kevkomgoddard: wondering if you can also do some review for me :)09:10
kevkomgoddard: if I am correct, you was writing support DB for nova-cells ..09:10
kevkomgoddard: and my patches will solve also this thing :)09:11
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kevkoi have all tested and passing zuul09:11
kevkoalso upgrade from previous version09:11
mgoddardkevko: dougsz and I worked on cells previously. There is a patch for separate DBs somewhere09:12
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kevkomgoddard: well, if you mean this -> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/61975609:13
mgoddardkevko: I will get around to looking at your patches09:13
mgoddardthat's the one09:13
mgoddardand this https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/619757/09:14
mgoddardkevko: it stalled, but we may pick it up again this year09:15
kevkomgoddard: well, I proposed proxysql support and database sharding ...so defining ONE parameter in all.yml (shard id) will configure ONE VIP:port for ALL databases09:15
kevkoso it is usable for every service ...and it is also usefull for cells ...09:15
kevkoand not listening on different ports ...09:16
kevkocheck it and leave some questions, comments ... I will explain everything what you want09:16
kevko(i've not added it for cells for now , because i wasn't sure ... but basically you just add nova_cell_database_shard_id to cells vars ..and that's it )09:17
mgoddardkevko: there was a proposal to support multiple cell conductors on a single host. I suppose they could share a DB shard09:25
kevkoyes, of course ...09:25
kevkoi just wanted to say that with my patches you can direct database where you want ..and you still can have single point of connection VIP:330609:26
kevkoand no need to define additional group for it, install mariadb cluster manually ...etc etc..everything is automatic09:27
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mgoddardkevko: some may say a single point of connection is a bottleneck for cells :)09:30
mgoddardthat's a different question though. I don't remember if we looked at multiple load balancers or not09:30
kevkohh :D well, now is everything via haproxy :D09:31
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kevkojust check it please .. i've spent big amount of time with implement and test ... and I think it is in very good shape now09:40
hrwmorning09:40
hrwtoday I started developing kolla in VM instance running on kolla build/deployed cloud09:41
kevkomorning09:43
kevkoand ? :)09:43
hrws/^/NOTE(hrw): /09:43
hrwbetter?09:43
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mgoddardkevko: are all patches under the proxysql topic/09:49
mgoddardhttps://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22proxysql%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)09:49
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kevkoclick better hash tag09:56
kevkohttps://review.opendev.org/q/hashtag:%22proxysql%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)09:56
kevkoit is one more patch :) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76578109:56
kevkobetter use hashtag09:56
kevkomgoddard: thanks09:56
mgoddard#ok09:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: [docs] Add link for project's release notes  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77148310:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: [docs] Add link for project's release notes  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77127210:12
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: Remove footer block from intermediate images  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77008710:22
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: CI: revert to public package mirrors after build  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77009010:22
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: CI: revert to public package mirrors after build  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77009010:24
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: Add a storm-base image  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77058010:26
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hrwok. victoria/ussuri/train builds of debian/ubuntu source on aarch64 started. will check logs later and send fixes11:25
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openstackgerritZhouHeng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Replace db-sock with db-nb-sock in template ovn-nb-db  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77159411:44
openstackgerritZhouHeng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Replace db-sock with db-sb-sock in template ovn-sb-db  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/77161711:52
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: CI: Use Docker proxy for pulls  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77097511:53
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: CI: Use Docker proxy for pulls + Ruby fixes  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77097511:55
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: CI: Use Docker proxy for pulls + Ruby fixes  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77097511:56
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: Remove footer block from intermediate images  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77008711:58
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openstackgerritPierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix unit tests on macOS  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/77162011:58
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: CI: revert to public package mirrors after build  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77009011:58
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: Add a storm-base image  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77058011:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/victoria: Remove footer block from intermediate images  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77008512:31
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kevkoguys, why kolla using haproxy for monitor mysql *without_password* if there is mysql_clustercheck where password can be injected ?12:34
kevkoit was reason only when it was checking via haproxy's mysql-check12:35
yoctozeptokevko: where is it without password?12:35
yoctozeptopossibly a bug then12:36
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kevkofor example here -> ansible/roles/mariadb/handlers/main.yml12:37
kevkoor here -> ansible/roles/mariadb/defaults/main.yml12:38
kevkoI can fix it .. i would like to use same user in proxysql for monitor backends ...and i would like to use it also with password :)12:39
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kevkoyoctozepto: what do you mean ?12:40
kevko*think12:40
kevkoand also, i think there is no reason to have user for monitor called haproxy ..i think better is monitor or mysql_monitor or similar12:42
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mnasiadkakevko: you need to remember that one thing is thinking something is better, second thing is changing an existing deployment that goes through upgrades and thinking what needs to be deprecated (especially thinking about deprecation & removal times as according to policies) :)12:55
kevkomnasiadka: I always make changes so that they go through all the tests, even the upgrade tests, to make those changes make sense, and I always consult and change the code according to the comments12:57
mnasiadkakevko: I'm not saying you don't, sometimes it's not worth going through all that to just change a username :)12:58
kevkomnasiadka: agree, that's the reason why I am using haproxy as monitor user for my proxysql changes ...12:59
kevkomnasiadka: one thing is not change name of user (i can live with it ) .. another thing is use monitor user *without password* ..13:00
mnasiadkakevko: raise a bug and fix it :)13:00
kevkomnasiadka: no problem :)13:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/victoria: CI: revert to public package mirrors after build  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/77008813:43
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kevkois it meeting today ( i mean here in irc ? )14:07
hrwin 50 minutes14:10
hrwheh.14:14
hrwkolla is mostly I/O and VM instance can lack good I/O ;(14:14
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hrwmgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak: meeting soon14:58
mnasiadkahave another meeting at this time, will try to keep up14:59
hrwkevko: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla has a list of nicks to ping before meeting ;D15:00
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hrw#startmeeting kolla15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 20 15:00:39 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hrw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
hrw#chair mgoddard15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'15:00
openstackCurrent chairs: hrw mgoddard15:00
hrwlong time since I chaired, hope that mgoddard wake up ;D15:01
hrw#rollcall15:01
rafaelweingartne\o15:01
mgoddardo/15:01
headphoneJameso/15:01
hrwmgoddard: lead, I need coffee15:01
mgoddardthanks for starting hrw, was in another15:01
hrwno problem15:01
hrw#agenda15:03
hrw* Roll-call15:03
hrw* Announcements15:03
hrw* Review action items from the last meeting15:03
hrw* CI status15:03
hrw* Hot issues15:03
hrw  ** https://anonymoushash.vmbrasseur.com/2021/01/14/elasticsearch-and-kibana-are-now-business-risks15:03
hrw  ** Dockerhub pull rate limits https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/docker-pull-limits15:03
hrw  ** Cinder active/active https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/190406215:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1904062 in kolla-ansible wallaby "external ceph cinder volume config breaks volumes on ussuri upgrade" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Michal Nasiadka (mnasiadka)15:03
hrw* Wallaby release planning15:03
yoctozepto\o/15:03
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hrwforgot about #topic ;D15:03
yoctozeptodoh15:04
hrw#topic announcements15:04
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hrwanyone?15:04
yoctozeptowant me to chair?15:04
hrw#chair yoctozepto15:05
openstackCurrent chairs: hrw mgoddard yoctozepto15:05
yoctozeptoleadership of USA is changing15:05
yoctozeptoright today15:05
hrwnot related to openstack15:05
yoctozeptothat's pretty important in terms of global politics15:05
yoctozeptoand openstack is tied to US15:05
yoctozeptoso close enough! :D15:05
mgoddardpolitics--15:05
yoctozeptonobody likes it but it affects us15:06
yoctozeptoanyhow15:06
yoctozepto3 chairs15:06
yoctozeptolet's progress :-)15:06
yoctozepto#topic Review action items from the last meeting15:06
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yoctozeptomnasiadka configure registry mirror for kolla CI15:06
mgoddardmnasiadka configure registry mirror for kolla CI15:06
yoctozeptohe did15:06
yoctozeptoand I backported15:07
mgoddardyou running this thing yoctozepto?15:07
yoctozeptotrain pending last time I checked15:07
mgoddardI'll go grab a beer then :D15:07
yoctozeptomgoddard: a'ight, whatever pleases you15:07
yoctozeptoso all actions completed15:07
yoctozeptoand watching for results in Train15:08
yoctozepto#topic CI status15:08
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yoctozeptokolla GREEN15:08
yoctozeptotrain pending but should pass soon15:08
yoctozeptoin fact let's check now15:08
yoctozeptoERROR! Unexpected Exception, this is probably a bug: SQLAlchemy 1.3.0 or greater is required.15:09
yoctozeptoDUH15:09
hrwI am running train/ussuri/victoria/master builds on aarch64 to check how we are there as I saw some issues. Expect some patches15:10
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yoctozeptonoted the above error in the whiteboard15:11
yoctozeptounless you know right away what the culprit is, let's move onto k-a15:11
yoctozeptooh yes, we stopped all the periodics it seems :-)15:12
yoctozeptopretty hard to tell if stable branches are affected15:12
yoctozeptoanyhow, train surely is as that is k-a job that fails15:12
yoctozepto(and it's k-a's part of it)15:12
yoctozeptomaster GREEN for sure15:13
yoctozeptoother stable unknown15:13
yoctozeptowell, k victoria passed today15:14
yoctozeptoso that one should be k-a green15:14
yoctozeptoussuri yesterday so let's assume too15:14
yoctozeptonow unto kayobe15:14
yoctozeptomaster looks green15:15
yoctozeptoadded link for victoria15:15
yoctozeptoand victoria looks green15:15
yoctozeptoussuri too15:15
yoctozeptotrain perhaps affected or soon to be affected15:15
yoctozeptobut so far looking green15:16
yoctozeptostein green15:16
yoctozeptoothers unknown; perhaps broken as indicated15:17
yoctozeptoplease remove from the whiteboard if not cared about15:17
yoctozeptoa'ight that's it for the CI status15:17
yoctozepto#topic https://anonymoushash.vmbrasseur.com/2021/01/14/elasticsearch-and-kibana-are-now-business-risks15:17
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yoctozeptoyeah, that's a burning issue15:18
yoctozeptowe should perhaps pin the versions and issue a communication about it15:18
mgoddardI think we're still on 6.x?15:18
* yoctozepto 's interest in Monasca and Venus intensifies15:18
mgoddardyeah, ELK 6.x on master15:19
yoctozeptomgoddard: on master (Wallaby) too? I thought I have seen a move to es7 but yeah, I remember es6 on stable branches15:19
yoctozeptomgoddard: ack, great15:19
mgoddardpossibly proposed, not merged15:19
yoctozeptothen communication that it's going to stay at this15:19
yoctozeptocould be15:19
hrwthere was es7 proposal15:19
mgoddardI guess it should be an opendistro proposal15:20
mgoddardwhether it's a clean migration, I don't know15:20
yoctozeptoI can't find it in gerrit15:20
hrwhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/74098615:22
yoctozepto#link https://opendistro.github.io/for-elasticsearch/15:22
hrw"Upgrade service configuration for ELK 7"15:22
yoctozeptoyup, so that I have seen; thanks hrw15:22
yoctozeptoopendistro looks interesting15:23
mgoddardit was pushed by AWS15:23
mgoddardthe kings of open source15:23
hrw'the kings'15:23
yoctozeptofwiw, they include es and kibana, but not logstash; just what we want15:24
yoctozeptoand they provide the docker images15:24
mgoddardcommented on the kolla patch15:26
mgoddardmove on?15:26
yoctozeptohttps://github.com/opendistro/for-elasticsearch-docs/issues/715:27
yoctozepto#link https://github.com/opendistro/for-elasticsearch-docs/issues/715:27
yoctozeptoit needs a dump and a restore15:27
yoctozeptoor so it seems15:27
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yoctozeptocommented too15:29
yoctozeptoa'ight15:29
yoctozeptolet's move on15:29
yoctozepto#topic Dockerhub pull rate limits https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/docker-pull-limits15:29
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yoctozeptohow bad is it?15:29
yoctozeptoit seems it's not that bad after our actions?15:30
mgoddarddefinitely better15:30
mgoddardI think we can live with it for a while15:31
mgoddardwe have two options open, if/when we decide to use them15:32
yoctozeptoagreed15:33
yoctozeptoI'll remove this point from the agenda then15:33
yoctozeptoshould we remove the es one too?15:34
yoctozeptoprobably; because it's already handled in the relevant change15:34
yoctozeptonot much to say about it15:34
yoctozeptolet's move on15:35
yoctozepto#topic Cinder active/active https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/190406215:35
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1904062 in kolla-ansible wallaby "external ceph cinder volume config breaks volumes on ussuri upgrade" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Michal Nasiadka (mnasiadka)15:35
yoctozeptoi wrote a summary in the whiteboard15:35
yoctozeptobut did not do much15:35
yoctozeptoif anything15:35
yoctozeptoany comments on it?15:36
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* mgoddard reading15:37
* yoctozepto waiting for mgoddard to finish reading15:37
yoctozeptoothers are welcome to read as well15:37
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mgoddardseems like we need to understand those -ing states15:39
yoctozeptoyup, it was raised by mnasiadka15:39
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yoctozeptowho is not entirely available for a conversation atm15:39
mnasiadkawell, as long as we don't stop anything while a _working_ agent is doing something with a volume in -ing state, we should be fine.15:40
mgoddardis that generally true?15:40
mgoddardregardless of this active/passive discussion15:40
mnasiadkawell, let it do what it needs to do with the volume, and then we can change anything - if we stop it - we might stop it from doing something in the middle of it's job - and it might bring us to some incosistency15:41
mnasiadkaso my opinion is we need to check for those states during cinder role run, and if it's there - just fail15:42
yoctozeptoso it's regarding any upgrade whatsoever15:42
mnasiadkaseems so :)15:43
mnasiadkaof course we need to remap the volumes to a new agent after we change to cluster15:43
yoctozeptothey remap themselves15:43
mnasiadkaoh, cool15:43
mnasiadkaso just remove the old agent?15:43
yoctozeptochange config, restart, be happy15:43
yoctozeptothat's what worked in the CI15:43
mnasiadkagreat15:44
mnasiadkaso just to be on the safe side - we need a check if any volumes are in -ing state15:44
yoctozeptowith only -ed states15:44
yoctozeptowell, we never did15:44
yoctozeptoit would be a nice addition but we can't help it15:44
yoctozeptothere could be -ing at any point in time15:44
yoctozeptoperhaps we should be rolling with disabling agents, waiting and restarting?15:45
mnasiadkaother option is to not add it, and wait until someone raises a bug (or not)15:45
yoctozeptobut still, it's orthogonal to active/passive15:45
mgoddardis the concern that a volume in an -ing state won't get remapped?15:45
mnasiadkarather a concern is that it would be (created|snapshotted|whatever) but with no update to the state in cinder database15:46
mnasiadkaso when you start a new agent, it does the same thing, and probably fails15:46
mgoddardok15:47
mgoddardsounds like a wider issue15:47
yoctozeptoyup15:47
yoctozeptook, so for active/passive15:47
yoctozeptowe should perhaps recommend to keep one cinder-volume active?15:47
yoctozeptoor let users known the tradeoffs involved?15:47
mgoddardprechecks would be a good way to tell people their config is broken/risky15:48
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yoctozeptoI_KNOW_WHAT_I_AM_DOING_PLEASE_LET_ME-kind of thing?15:49
mgoddardyes15:49
yoctozeptoand the only active-active that we really support is ceph, no?15:50
mgoddardas far as I'm aware15:52
yoctozeptowell, that's awkward15:52
yoctozeptobut life is life15:52
yoctozeptoand then15:53
yoctozeptoshould we impose the coordination now?15:53
yoctozeptoor only use prechecks here as well15:53
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mgoddardprechecks15:54
yoctozeptoand now unto the backend_host15:56
yoctozeptoI had no time to check that scenario15:56
yoctozeptoit breaks out of the box15:56
yoctozeptoif you did not investigate it, then I guess there is not much to talk about15:56
yoctozepto:-)15:56
yoctozepto#topic Wallaby release planning15:57
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yoctozeptogogo Wallaby15:57
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headphoneJamesthe letsencrypt feature is ready for initial reviews15:58
headphoneJameshttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/74134015:58
headphoneJamesthe test case is still absent, that will be my next bit15:59
yoctozeptoyay, lovely15:59
mgoddardnice, thanks headphoneJames15:59
headphoneJamesnot sure if there is precedence for test cases that mock the service16:00
hrwallowed to fail will get requested cleanup and done16:00
yoctozeptothanks for your summaries16:01
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yoctozeptowe have to finish16:01
yoctozeptothanks all16:01
yoctozepto#endmeeting16:01
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hrwthanks16:01
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: implement "allowed to fail" images  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76580716:01
mgoddardthanks yoctozepto16:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe stable/victoria: Fix overcloud host image resolv workaround on CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/77124418:31
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