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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: use freezer user for freezer_scheduler container  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76568100:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: [docs] Add python3-venv package to quickstart.rst  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76714700:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: [docs] Add python3-venv package to quickstart.rst  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76714600:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: CI: Avoid tox (and clean up gate setup)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76715700:26
openstackgerritGhanshyam proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove retired Qinling support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76456000:35
openstackgerritGhanshyam proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove retired Searchlight support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76456500:37
gmannmgoddard: yoctozepto ^^ rebased these two due to merge conflict00:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/train: Support CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76641000:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Pin ansible in test-requirements  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76668902:58
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openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add ensure-python task  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/76698407:22
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add ensure-python task  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/76698407:25
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ug_egonI'm having a hard time understanding my review. Could one of you explain this newbie? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/758361/1//COMMIT_MSG08:21
ug_egonI already tried responding to the reviewer and emailing but so far, i received no response.08:21
ug_egonWhy is there "Closes-Bug: 1606143"  should in commit message.08:21
openstackbug 1606143 in kolla-ansible "SSL termination in external loadbalancer" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160614308:21
ug_egonwhile my commit starts with that...08:22
ug_egonand what is a git title in this context?08:22
openstackgerritBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Monasca log-metrics - Drop "notice" and "note" loglevel metrics by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730008:23
openstackgerritBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Monasca log-metrics - Drop "notice" and "note" loglevel metrics by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730108:24
yoctozeptogmann: thanks08:25
yoctozeptomorning08:25
yoctozeptomost master images have built already08:25
yoctozeptocentos8 source still building08:25
yoctozeptowell, built AND got published :-)08:26
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openstackgerritBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Monasca log-metrics - Drop "notice" and "note" loglevel metrics by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730208:37
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openstackgerritBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Monasca log-metrics - Drop "notice" and "note" loglevel metrics by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730208:42
openstackgerritBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Monasca log-metrics - Drop "notice" and "note" loglevel metrics by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730108:42
openstackgerritBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Monasca log-metrics - Drop "notice" and "note" loglevel metrics by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730008:43
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mnasiadkayoctozepto: incredible08:44
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yoctozeptocentos8 source published too08:48
wuchunyangug_egon  hi   please check my new reply08:49
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yoctozeptoand Train unblocked yesterday08:49
yoctozeptothe next step is to do a release for T & U08:50
yoctozeptomnasiadka: you know how to do it, propose it and let mgoddard approve them08:50
mnasiadkawill do08:51
yoctozeptooh what a spam on the k-a gate hah08:51
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mnasiadkayup, my fault :D08:55
mnasiadkaoh, bandit doesn't like kolla_docker tmpfs change08:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix stop containers task in Swift rolling restart  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76408708:57
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fixes for CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/76620308:59
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ug_egonwuchunyang Thanks that will work!09:16
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mgoddardmorning09:19
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fixes for CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/76620309:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Fix stop containers task in Swift rolling restart  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76408509:29
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openstackgerritEgon Rijpkema proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: keep X-Forwarded-Proto of exterbal ssl termination.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/75836109:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix stop containers task in Swift rolling restart  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76408609:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Do not start swift-object-updater on stop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76568509:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix mariadb_recovery when mariadb container is missing  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76645809:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Edit ironic inspector pxe filter driver name none to noop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76591109:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: docs: Add magnum guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76377009:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix an Ansible warning  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76377509:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Add trove smoke test CI  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76319709:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: enable TLS in single node upgrade jobs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/75449909:38
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yoctozeptoah how I missed this spam09:42
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Fix an Ansible warning  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730309:44
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix an Ansible warning  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730409:48
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Revert "Performance: Use import_tasks in the main plays"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730509:51
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Revert "Performance: Use import_tasks in the main plays"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730609:52
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Revert "Performance: Use import_tasks in the main plays"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730709:52
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: CI: Avoid tox (and clean up gate setup)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730809:54
hrwnie to see that amount of jobs on CI again09:56
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support to kolla_docker for tmpfs mounts  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/75437710:02
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for using a tmpfs for Cinder image conversion  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/75437810:02
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: CI: Avoid tox (and clean up gate setup)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730810:21
hrwkevko: are you aware of heat-base failing for debian/binary in master?10:28
hrwkevko: as this is binary I tend to leave it to you10:29
hrwkevko: and it is buster-victoria in master wallaby so maybe it is the reason10:30
kevkohi,10:31
kevkohrw: will check, i am working currently on some patchsets for kolla-ansible against master ..so i will deploy heat and will check/fix10:32
hrwkevko: thanks10:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Add daxio for nvdimm scenario  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76583210:34
kevkohrw: as I currently don't have heat deployed ..do you have some log which I can check now ?10:34
openstackgerritMartin Schuppert proposed openstack/kolla stable/victoria: Add daxio for nvdimm scenario  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76731110:34
hrwkevko: https://1ad6f2e4d61e2bf5ff0b-20b98b64cfa6ea87451df6eaddafb782.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/750621/4/check/kolla-build-debian-binary/17d906e/ for example10:35
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: Cap bandit to 1.6.3 (was Support CentOS 8.3)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76729510:43
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: docs: Add magnum guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731210:46
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: docs: Add magnum guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731310:47
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: docs: Add magnum guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731410:48
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: docs: Add magnum guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731410:49
hrw+2 on all10:52
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: CI: Avoid tox (and clean up gate setup)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730810:54
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Do not start swift-object-updater on stop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731510:54
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Do not start swift-object-updater on stop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731610:55
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Do not start swift-object-updater on stop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731810:56
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bsanjeewaI am having an error when running "kayobe overcloud service deploy", with external ceph configured and gnocchi enabled. gnocchi-statsd is skipped in the /venvs/kolla-ansible/share/kolla-ansible/ansible/roles/gnocchi/tasks/config.yml, but /venvs/kolla-ansible/share/kolla-ansible/ansible/roles/gnocchi/tasks/external_ceph.yml needs the directory to copy files.12:10
bsanjeewahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/801072/12:11
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mgoddardbsanjeewa: set enable_gnocchi_statsd to true in etc/kayobe/kolla/globals.yml12:49
mgoddardbsanjeewa: it looks like a bug - the task in external-ceph.yml should be conditional on enable_gnocchi_statsd12:50
yoctozeptomgoddard, mnasiadka: ok, so we are now failing mostlu on pull rate limits :D - I guess this is what we should discuss today12:50
mnasiadkayoctozepto: noticed that yesterday12:50
mnasiadkafor the sake of CI we could ask docker hub what's the pull limit of this IP and fail the job when it's not sufficient ;)12:51
mnasiadkayoctozepto: actually, if we fail a job in pre - does it get rescheduled to a different node from nodepool?12:58
bsanjeewamgoddard: thanks. A new error occured with zun, /opt/cni/  does not exist when running [Copy loopback binary from zun-cni-daemon container to host] in ansible/roles/zun/handlers/main.yml. Will https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/734135/ address the issue?12:59
mgoddardbsanjeewa: looks relevant. Please try and comment on the review if it works.13:00
yoctozeptomnasiadka: it does, but note mgoddard confirmed we are using caches there, so the same cloud provider would give us the very same ip address13:01
yoctozeptowe really need an infra registry of images13:02
mgoddardyoctozepto: I think there is one, but I don't know how well it would handle us13:02
mgoddardand if clouds are in different parts of the world and there is one registry, how will it perform?13:03
mgoddardbut I think we need to find answers to these questions13:03
mnasiadkawell, ideally there should be a registry that is replicated, but that means syncing gigabytes of data, which we probably don't want to do13:11
mnasiadkathat's why maybe just checking docker hub pull limit via API and failing in pre to get a new node + disabling caching would get us somewhere13:12
mnasiadkalast time I saw a debian kolla build job fail on fetching debian upstream container image13:12
mnasiadkaso I don't know about caching ;)13:12
mnasiadkabut I guess mostly we fail on k-a jobs, publishing weekly and getting it properly distributed (cache or replicated registry) would probably work best13:14
bsanjeewamgoddard: where should I update the code? in src/kolla-ansible or venvs/kolla-ansible?13:21
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hrwhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765807 (tier 2 images) waits for brave reviewers13:58
hrwyoctozepto, mnasiadka, mgoddard, osmanlicilegi?13:58
mgoddardhrw: downstreaming13:59
hrwI keep 'WIP:' in title as I prefer not doing any changes in it before someone look and say 'ok, let go that way'13:59
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mnasiadkahrw: I'm thinking if it wouldn't be better to define a regex/names of ,,critical'' images, but maybe that's me14:02
hrwmnasiadka: comment on patch?14:03
hrwmnasiadka: I coded it as a way to tell 'those are images we care less'14:03
hrwmnasiadka: as we can use profiles to limit amount of 'critical images' on CI14:04
hrw(we use profiles on Linaro CI)14:05
mnasiadkacommented, let's have a discussion then :D14:06
hrwreplied14:08
rafaelweingartnemnasiadka: would you mind providing some more details on your requests at the patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/695432?14:10
rafaelweingartneWe do not understand on what you would like us to achieve by splitting up that patch.14:10
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mnasiadkarafaelweingartne: less complexity, and we need more tests (CI) - that it creates what is needed. Will comment in detail tomorrow.14:11
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rafaelweingartneI understand that, but we do not see what can be splited there14:11
rafaelweingartneFor us, it does not make much sense to introduce half of those changes without it being complete14:12
rafaelweingartneabout CI, depending on what you guys mean by CI, for instance, if it is a test to check the config files that are created, we could create those tests then, if that helps14:13
mnasiadkarafaelweingartne: and for me it's a big chunk of code touching various elements of k-a deployments14:13
mnasiadkarafaelweingartne: you can easily check if identity provider in keystone was created14:13
mnasiadkafor example14:13
mnasiadkanot config files, real configuration done in OpenStack services14:13
rafaelweingartnebut this would be troublesome, we would need a CI with an IdP14:13
rafaelweingartneof course it is touching different files, all of them are necessary to create all of the configs14:14
mnasiadkawell, most of features we provide are tested in a CI, so at least think about a smoke test :)14:14
rafaelweingartnewhat do you mean by smoke test? checking if the config files are what we intended to be?14:15
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mnasiadkarafaelweingartne: idp needs to be created in keystone - check if it is created (using openstack client), at least this basic stuff14:20
mnasiadkaand I guess there should be a test idp somewhere in the internet we could use?14:20
rafaelweingartneah ok14:20
mnasiadkaAt least there's one for saml...14:21
rafaelweingartneso we do not need to test if it is actually working14:21
mnasiadkano, if that's troublesome or impossible - that can be done later or never ;)14:21
rafaelweingartneI do not mind us adding effort to that14:21
rafaelweingartnethe point is that we would like some clear directions14:22
rafaelweingartneif that is the requirement, we will implement it, but we would like to understand if that is the requirement for us to move this on14:22
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rafaelweingartneotherwise, it feels that we do the CI for OpenID Connect, and then somebody else starts to asks SAML support in the same patch, and only when that is also complete, that we can move on14:23
rafaelweingartnewhich would only add more complexity14:23
rafaelweingartneas you said, it is a big chunky already, and we only have that, because it is all together the basic structure we envision to add federated support + the support for OpenID Connect14:23
openstackgerritwu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [doc] Fix a typo in dpdk doc  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76736014:26
tbarronFor a Manila document I'm working on, I'd like to check on the status of manila with kolla-ansible.14:29
tbarronAre there any integration challenges?  Backend support issues?14:29
tbarronOther obstacles?14:30
tbarronI see https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/reference/storage/manila-guide.html which mentions glusterfs in particular.14:30
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mnasiadkatbarron: no CI - that's the most problematic thing, we don't really know if it works :)14:48
tbarronmnasiadka: agree :)14:48
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tbarronmnasiadka: and is the obstacle there cycles and people or something else?14:49
mnasiadkatbarron: I think it's my cycles, at least for the Manila + CephFS part14:49
mnasiadkaand I don't know how problematic it is to test it with glusterfs in opendev CI14:49
mnasiadka(haven't looked into that)14:49
tbarronmnasiadka: for manila + CephFS is your interest in native CephFS, CephFS gatewayed to NFS, or both?14:50
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mnasiadkanative CephFS, the gatewayed NFS stuff is not really production grade, so I don't see why we should test it at all :)14:52
mgoddardmgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak14:52
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mgoddardmeeting in 10 ^14:52
tbarronmnasiadka: ack.  in tripleo we wrap the gatewayed nfs stuff with pacemaker, etc. for HA but it's a pain14:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/victoria: Add daxio for nvdimm scenario  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76731114:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: docs: Add magnum guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731214:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: docs: Add magnum guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731414:54
tbarronmnasiadka: but necessary for deployments that aren't comfortable with CephFS and tenant separation14:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: docs: Add magnum guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731314:54
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tbarronmnasiadka: the good news there w.r.t. native cephfs is that it should be simpler to deploy and test in CI14:55
tbarronmnasiadka: anyways, thanks for updating me on status!  I'd like to see more use of manila with other deployment frameworks than just tripleo14:58
tbarronand kolla-ansible, kayobe, etc, look really nice.14:58
mgoddard#startmeeting kolla15:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 16 15:01:18 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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mgoddard#topic rollcall15:01
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mgoddard\o15:01
yoctozeptoo/15:01
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mgoddard#topic agenda15:04
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mgoddard* Roll-call15:05
mgoddard* Announcements15:05
mgoddard* Review action items from the last meeting15:05
mgoddard* CI status15:05
mgoddard* Victoria release planning15:05
mgoddard* Dockerhub pull rate limits https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/docker-pull-limits15:05
mgoddard* CentOS 8.3 & stream https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2020-December/075451.html15:05
mgoddard* Cinder active/active https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/190406215:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1904062 in kolla-ansible wallaby "external ceph cinder volume config breaks volumes on ussuri upgrade" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Michal Nasiadka (mnasiadka)15:05
mgoddard* Wallaby PTG actions15:05
mgoddard#topic announcements15:05
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mgoddardI suppose we should cancel some meetings15:05
mgoddardthe next two?15:05
mnasiadkafor the next 3 weeks I guess, 6th Jan is designated holiday in Poland15:05
mgoddardoh ok15:06
yoctozepto++15:06
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yoctozeptoI am running masakari's on 22nd15:06
yoctozeptobut yeah, 23rd with kolla might be a bit late15:06
mgoddard#info The next 3 meetings are cancelled15:06
mgoddard#action mgoddard send email to openstack-discuss about meeting cancellations15:06
wuchunyangok15:07
yoctozepto2020-01-13 is the next kolla meeting15:07
wuchunyanghappy new year15:07
yoctozepto2021-01-13 *15:07
yoctozeptohappy new year! :D15:07
mgoddardAny others?15:07
yoctozeptowe got our CI back on track15:07
mgoddard#topic CI status15:07
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mgoddardhooray15:08
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mgoddardthank you to everyone involved in firefighting over the last few weeks15:08
mgoddardwe're not done yet - kayobe is still busted15:09
mgoddardI had it passing yesterday, now there two new failures15:09
yoctozeptoah, yeah15:09
yoctozepto:O15:09
yoctozeptothat went quick15:09
yoctozeptowhat kind of failures?15:09
mgoddardwell, passing in review anyway15:09
mgoddardbifrost changed a default15:09
yoctozeptooh gosh15:10
mgoddardand some weird ironic locking issue15:10
yoctozepto:-(15:10
* hrw at 2 meetings at time15:11
mgoddardanyway let's go over the CI status15:11
mgoddardcentos8-ceph-upgrade jobs seem to be retried 3 times only to fail in some weird way15:11
mgoddardstill seeing it?15:11
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yoctozeptoyes15:12
yoctozeptoobviously not always15:12
yoctozeptohttps://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=kolla-ansible-centos8-source-upgrade-ceph-ansible&project=openstack%2Fkolla-ansible&branch=master15:13
yoctozeptoa SUCCESS is rare15:13
yoctozeptofwiw, ubuntu ain't looking any better https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=kolla-ansible-ubuntu-source-upgrade-ceph-ansible&project=openstack%2Fkolla-ansible&branch=master15:14
mgoddardwonderful15:14
yoctozeptowell, I suppose DISK_FULL is kinda success15:14
yoctozeptoI like your optimism15:14
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kevkoguys, probably i refactor and have completed switch from haproxy to maxscale , everyone who want to check working maxscale can login here15:15
kevkohttp://185.21.197.26:8990/#/dashboard/servers15:15
kevkojust ask for pass in private message ..15:16
mgoddardkevko: meeting time15:16
yoctozeptoyup, these recent ones still failed on "Ensuring config directories exist"15:16
mgoddardlet's move on from CI. At least we're in a better position than before, even if we have loose ends15:17
mgoddard#topic Victoria release planning15:17
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yoctozeptoubuntu does not exhibit that particular behaviour15:17
yoctozeptoall right, Victoria not so victorious15:17
mgoddardend of year release not looking too likely15:18
mgoddardwe're still basically blocked on the cinder issue15:18
mgoddardmnasiadka: any progress?15:18
yoctozeptoyup, super sad this time15:18
mnasiadkamgoddard: have a test env, testing migration from non-cluster to cluster, should have something to push this week15:19
mgoddardperhaps we need to make a call about whether to release without the cinder fix15:19
mnasiadkabackend_host probably won't take too much time, it's not much different, than we have one cinder-volume service instead of 3 or more/less15:19
mnasiadkamgoddard: well, we could release with an issue type reno, but it won't look very good :)15:20
mgoddardno, but it's no worse than what we have already15:20
yoctozepto++15:21
mgoddardthat doesn't mean we should take the pressure off fixing the issue15:21
yoctozepto++15:21
mgoddardvote: release victoria without cinder active/active fix?15:22
mnasiadkaif I won't push any updates to the change tomorrow - I'll make the releases change myself, deal? :)15:23
yoctozeptomnasiadka: otherwise you'll make mgoddard do them? :P15:23
mnasiadkaunless we want to test the migration in a CI15:23
mnasiadkathen it will take for sure more time15:23
yoctozeptolet's release with an issue reno15:24
yoctozeptoussuri is already "broken"15:24
yoctozeptomention that15:24
yoctozeptoit is not a *new issue*15:25
yoctozeptoand it can be workarounded if you just control the process yourself15:25
yoctozeptowhich might be the case with an external ceph ;-)15:25
yoctozeptomgoddard, mnasiadka: decisions, decisions15:27
mgoddardugh15:27
mgoddardlet's give mnasiadka a day or two15:27
yoctozeptothis week indeed15:27
yoctozeptoI might think about extending CI testing15:28
mgoddardwe may not even have the right people around to get a release approved before 202115:28
yoctozeptothat true as well15:28
mgoddard#topic Dockerhub pull rate limits https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/docker-pull-limits15:28
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yoctozeptooh noez15:28
yoctozeptoin nightmares it hunts me15:29
mgoddardyou have reached your dream limit15:29
yoctozeptohttp 429 no sweet dreams for you15:30
yoctozeptosooo15:30
mnasiadkalol15:30
yoctozeptoare we pushing towards an internal registry?15:30
mgoddardI've crossed through docker devil pact option 215:30
yoctozeptobecause I have no idea what to do about this15:30
mnasiadkaso, mostly k-a jobs suffer?15:30
mgoddardwhich leaves switching to another devil, or using the infra registry15:31
yoctozeptomnasiadka: k too15:31
mnasiadkaso, in kolla case we pull only one image from docker hub, right?15:31
yoctozeptomaybe let's try another devil?15:31
yoctozeptomnasiadka: yeah 1 per distro version15:31
mnasiadkaand we fail with that, that's some crazy stuff15:31
yoctozeptobecause we kill it with k-a jobs15:32
mnasiadkaok, so option 1: another devil15:32
yoctozeptoor, well15:32
yoctozeptowe are not using registry mirror in kolla15:32
yoctozeptowhen building those images15:32
yoctozeptothey seem to be coming directly from the dockerhub15:33
yoctozeptomaybe that is where our issue is15:33
mnasiadkaI don't think centos:8 ubuntu:something and debian:devilish_number changes a lot15:33
yoctozeptothey don't15:33
mgoddardif we switch to another registry, I don't know if we get the caching or the mirror15:33
mnasiadkaso we could at least cross out those failures by using a cache15:33
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yoctozeptomgoddard, mnasiadka: could you confirm that in k we are not using any mirror at the very moment15:33
mnasiadkado we know how many pulls credits we use per a standard k-a CI job?15:33
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yoctozeptomnasiadka: 20-3015:34
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yoctozepto*(mirror meaning caching proxy)15:34
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add maxscale support for database  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76737015:35
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openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add maxscale support for database  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76737015:37
mnasiadkayoctozepto: 20-30 is not bad, we have 200 pulls per 6 hours, right?15:37
mnasiadkaor 100?15:37
mgoddard10015:37
mgoddardit's not enough15:37
yoctozeptonot enuff15:37
mgoddardok, key question15:38
mnasiadkaso, if we disable using cache in k-a jobs, and add a check in pre to check if we have enough pulls for current host, is that something we could live with?15:38
mgoddardif I pull from github's registry using a registry mirror, will it cache the image?15:38
mnasiadkamgoddard: good question, I guess it should - but maybe we are both wrong in that assumption :) needs testing15:39
mgoddardI remember reading it doesn't15:39
yoctozeptoyou mean pull-through?15:40
mgoddardyes15:40
yoctozeptoI also think it only caches the primary one15:41
yoctozeptomight be worth gooling15:41
yoctozeptogoogling*15:41
yoctozeptolet me see,15:41
mnasiadkathe standard doesn't15:42
mnasiadkabut there is stuff like https://hub.docker.com/r/tiangolo/docker-registry-proxy15:42
mnasiadkaor probably something else we could use15:42
mgoddardGotcha15:42
mgoddardIt’s currently not possible to mirror another private registry. Only the central Hub can be mirrored.15:43
yoctozeptohttps://github.com/docker/distribution/blob/master/ROADMAP.md#proxying-to-other-registries15:44
yoctozeptomnasiadka: the thing is: infra has to15:44
mnasiadkayoctozepto: I know, that's why we need to think of something we can do now15:45
mgoddardyeah15:45
yoctozeptoand they already have their hands full with the new great gerrit15:45
yoctozeptoI think we should add cache to k15:45
yoctozeptoas I see it is not there15:46
yoctozeptoI wanted you to cross-validate me15:46
mgoddardwhat do you mean?15:46
mnasiadkaand judging by the amount of storage our images need - it might be complicated to find a registry local to nodepool providers :)15:46
yoctozeptono hits of registry-mirrors in kolla job plays15:46
mgoddardoh, I see15:47
yoctozeptokolla-ansible yes15:47
yoctozeptokolla not15:47
mgoddardit would help for some build failures15:47
yoctozeptomgoddard: now you know why I thought what I thought ;-)15:47
mgoddardbut while it might save the build jobs, the deploy jobs are likely to fail15:48
mnasiadkayeah, at least we can fix kolla for now - it's an easy step15:48
yoctozeptoyes, I thought this15:48
yoctozeptowe can move to another registry15:48
yoctozeptobut we still need to fetch15:48
yoctozeptodistro images15:48
yoctozeptoso cache in kolla15:48
yoctozeptoand that is enough15:48
yoctozeptofor kolla15:48
yoctozeptothen move publishing to quay15:49
yoctozeptoor something15:49
mnasiadkaand why quay is better?15:49
mnasiadkahigher limits?15:49
yoctozeptobecause it has only burst limits15:49
mgoddardif we move to another registry we can no longer use the registry mirror, and that will increase external traffic significantly15:49
yoctozeptoif you do too many reqs per sec15:49
yoctozeptobut it has no mirror15:49
yoctozeptoso is trickky15:49
yoctozeptoindeed15:49
mnasiadkaso, in reality the zuul pull through cache is having going over pull limits?15:50
mnasiadkauh, english is complicated15:50
yoctozeptoyes, rephrase pretty please15:50
mgoddardyes, all pulls come from the caches15:50
yoctozeptoin k-a jobs15:51
mnasiadkaand the caches have one ip, so it's not a problem for them to use the quota15:51
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mnasiadkaare we sure that disabling the cache is not a better solution? :)15:51
yoctozeptoone ip addr per cloud more or less15:51
yoctozeptowe are pretty sure regarding the external traffic15:51
mnasiadkawell, not better in terms of traffic, but better in terms of pull quotas15:52
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mgoddardhard to say without trying it15:53
mgoddardit depends on how nodepool is setup15:53
mgoddardif all nodes are in a single project using one router, they'll all use the same IP anyway15:53
yoctozeptoindeed15:53
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mnasiadkawell then it's even worse, if they all share one external IP via SNAT15:54
mgoddardyes15:54
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mnasiadkaso the only way forward is deploying a registry in each nodepool provider and try to sync them (or check for images older than X and build them)15:54
yoctozeptoor cache quay15:55
mnasiadkaor... check the usage of docker pull quota and decide if we need to build the images, or just pull them (if we have the same IP as the pull through cache)15:55
mnasiadka(docker exposes number of pull requests left in API)15:55
yoctozeptoI wonder15:55
yoctozeptoif we are not better of rebuilding the images now each time :P15:55
mgoddardit's a bit racy with multiple jobs though15:56
mnasiadkawell, we can build on first host, push into a registry and use that registry15:56
mnasiadkaand build only a subset that is required for CI15:56
yoctozeptothat is what we are doing15:56
yoctozeptowhen we need to build them15:56
yoctozeptowe are smart (TM)15:56
yoctozeptoso what do you say15:57
yoctozeptowe just enable building by default15:57
yoctozeptoand see how bad that works for us15:57
mnasiadkawell, how longer will it take? 10-20 minutes?15:57
mgoddardwhy don't we try another registry15:57
mnasiadkabut then there's no cache?15:57
mgoddardall other options seem to lack a cache15:58
yoctozeptofolks, 2 minutes15:58
mgoddardor require pulling in data for building15:58
yoctozeptoenable building images each time and see how bad it goes?15:58
yoctozeptofor the time being15:58
yoctozeptoon master15:58
mgoddardcould do it on master15:58
mnasiadkayeah, let's do it on master - and see how that goes15:59
mnasiadkaor even only for source15:59
yoctozeptothen basically kolla-ansible jobs work like they always do in kolla15:59
yoctozeptomnasiadka: no, always, otherwise we might still trigger the duckery15:59
mgoddardkolla-ansible pull | kolla-build15:59
mgoddard||15:59
mgoddarddoesn't work for pre-upgrade though16:00
mgoddardalso true of building16:00
yoctozeptono, just build on master16:00
yoctozeptostable have their own jobs16:00
yoctozeptoso we would still be pulling something extra16:01
yoctozeptoeh, dockerhub16:01
yoctozeptowas that really necessary16:01
yoctozeptoa'ight time is up16:01
mnasiadkayup16:02
mgoddardmaybe we should just accept the Ts & Cs :D16:03
mnasiadkabasically - ideally if infra would deploy something like Harbor in each mirror site and setup replication rules - it would be solved like that16:03
mnasiadkawe would just publish both to docker hub and local registry16:03
mnasiadkawonder what is the traffic volume we create by publishing16:04
mgoddardok, let's finish16:04
mgoddardthanks16:04
mgoddard#endmeeting16:04
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yoctozeptomnasiadka: we would have to do it for infra16:04
yoctozeptothey can't magically do it for us with 0 effort from our side16:05
yoctozeptothanks mgoddard16:05
mnasiadkayoctozepto: I'm not telling we ask them to do it, I'm happy to work on it, if they accept it as a solution :)16:05
mnasiadkaif not, we're left with moving to Quay/Github and setting up a cache for those in opendev?16:06
hrwI am after internal CentOS Stream AMA meeting16:08
hrwinformation about migration from centos:8 to CentOS Stream will be published16:10
hrwso far we can just continue with centos:816:10
sorin-mihai__i'm planning a production deployment and i'm comparing some things with some TripleO concepts. maybe things have changed since those documents where written, but i see that the undercloud is being deployed in just one node. all i know about kayobe so far is that it has the same role as the undercloud. i am concerned about the situation where the kayobe node would be powered off for whatever reason; how would that affect the16:12
sorin-mihai__rest of the kolla-ansible deployment? i'm trying to achieve proper HA for all components of the deployment16:12
yoctozeptosorin-mihai__: it would not care16:14
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mnasiadkahrw: I saw a mail that they are targetting for 1Q 2021 to really get Stream in shape16:16
hrwmnasiadka: there will be CentOS 8.4 and CentOS 8.5 in 2021 so there is a year to switch16:16
sorin-mihai__yoctozepto, so the HA/redundancy is obtained just by having the 3 controllers? what if one of them goes down, how would the compute nodes be affected? i know, silly questions, but so far i didn't find documents that would discuss the "what if/worst case"16:18
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mnasiadkahrw: or more16:29
hrwmnasiadka: depends on RDO probably16:30
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openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add maxscale support for database  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76737016:45
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openstackgerritMartin Schuppert proposed openstack/kolla stable/ussuri: Add daxio for nvdimm scenario  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76737717:05
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yoctozeptosorin-mihai__: yes, you need to have two up to have it working; one going down might cause a small disruption (as services might still be connected to the failed node and take some time to realise the fact; similarly if VIP has to move)18:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Do not start swift-object-updater on stop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731818:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Do not start swift-object-updater on stop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731618:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support to kolla_docker for tmpfs mounts  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/75437718:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for using a tmpfs for Cinder image conversion  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/75437818:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Do not start swift-object-updater on stop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76731518:51
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: CI: Avoid tox (and clean up gate setup)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730818:54
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: CI: test elasticsearch & kibana 6.x migration (Ussuri)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76008419:18
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: CI: test elasticsearch & kibana 6.x migration (Ussuri)  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76008419:18
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adrian-aregarding the docker limits, in another project, after contemplating to host own registry, we just bought a damn docker account, helluva cheaper than over-analyzing, deploying the own registry :)19:25
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adrian-a+ vs. the own registry maintenance cost19:28
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yoctozeptoadrian-a: I am spending enough time upstream not to spend money on it ;-)19:43
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adrian-adefinitely, I mean the Foundation. I can also sponsor a docker account, I'm spending too much time just reading about it! And a lot more wasted effort on this discussion.19:50
adrian-aand all the wasted time watching and rerunning CI jobs19:51
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yoctozeptoadrian-a: yeah, it pains me too; this was a bad year19:56
adrian-aanything else significant, besides the usual (Corona) and docker nuisance?19:59
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yoctozeptoadrian-a: well, centos linux going away is certainly no good news if you ask me ;-)20:03
adrian-ayes, indeed. we'll jump into debian as probably a many folks. but we're still stuck in the rpm world with some systems. fingers crossed for rocky20:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Revert "Performance: Use import_tasks in the main plays"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730520:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Revert "Performance: Use import_tasks in the main plays"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76730720:07
r3ap3rDoes anyone use the Rally option when  deploying with Kolla-Ansible?20:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: [doc] Fix a typo in dpdk doc  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76736020:20
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lbotellHi, I am planning to deploy one controller, one compute and three baremetal nodes20:50
lbotellthat using kolla-ansible deploy?20:50
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openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add maxscale support for database  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76737022:00
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JamesBensonlbotell, not sure if that is a question, but yeah, totally possible.22:17
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/kayobe-config master: Remove Retired Karbor Support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe-config/+/76743523:18
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/kayobe-config-dev master: Remove Retired Karbor Support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe-config-dev/+/76743623:20
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