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openstackgerritdou proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Edit ironic inspector pxe filter driver name none to noop  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76591107:33
yoctozeptokolla CI red; see https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard07:37
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openstackgerritMartin Schuppert proposed openstack/kolla master: Add daxio for nvdimm scenario  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76583207:40
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osmanlicilegimorning08:09
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yoctozeptoreview.opendev.org went down temporarily08:13
yoctozeptoI see we might have a fix proposed already for powertools being renamed08:14
yoctozeptothough it needs a bug report cycle as it affects train+08:14
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yoctozeptoI asked on #centos-devel whether this was planned08:16
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kevkomorning08:27
openstackgerritPiotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla master: WIP: Add Prometheus 2.x image  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76591608:28
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yoctozeptoyeah, this was planned: https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS8.2011#Yum_repo_file_and_repoid_changes08:36
openstackgerritPiotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla master: WIP: Add Prometheus 2.x image  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76591608:37
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mnasiadkayoctozepto, hrw, mgoddard: ^^ - just thinking, what should be the idea with ,,infra'' images? We download latest available from source/github, or use rpm/deb packages?08:58
yoctozeptomnasiadka: I do not get your question really08:59
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mnasiadkayoctozepto: I don't like managing versions in each Dockerfile, we could use rpms/debs for prometheus - but then we can get different versions :)09:00
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parallaxusually rpm/deb repositories do not follow official GitHub releases closely09:03
parallaxit's more likely you'll get new Prometheus version with an Ubuntu upgrade, but not before :)09:03
hrwmorning09:03
hrwmnasiadka: infra is whatever !openstack binary/source.09:04
mnasiadkayeah, but if we supply a version in Dockerfile, somebody needs to bump it, and we're not really good at it :)09:04
mnasiadkamaybe time to write a version checker for github downloaded binaries09:04
hrwand add it into version-check.py?09:04
hrwpowertools issue is fixed09:05
mnasiadkayeah, probably the best place09:05
hrwand has patches on top09:05
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Support CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76585409:10
yoctozeptomnasiadka: ah, I was confused as you referenced "infra" rather than just saying you mean "prometheus"09:12
yoctozeptomnasiadka: I think parallax summarised well why we are doing what we are doing09:12
yoctozeptojust need to update it :D09:13
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mgoddardmorning09:24
mgoddardyoctozepto: seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1906288 ?09:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1906288 in kolla-ansible "Fluentd custom config not copied" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Doug Szumski (dszumski)09:25
hrwgerrit online09:27
mnasiadkayoctozepto: well, last time you didn't like we do curl to download releases :D09:28
hrwyoctozepto: add https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS8.2011#Yum_repo_file_and_repoid_changes to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765854 commit message?09:31
yoctozeptomnasiadka: I'm just hard to please09:32
yoctozeptomgoddard: not yet, looks bad09:33
mgoddardyoctozepto: yeah, thinking revert and ask questions later09:33
yoctozeptohrw: agreed, will do09:34
hrwthx09:34
yoctozeptomgoddard: not opposing; where did it go?09:34
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mgoddardyoctozepto: where did what go?09:34
yoctozeptomgoddard: the change; which branches are affected09:34
mgoddardyoctozepto: oh. everywhere09:35
yoctozeptoprecisely why I asked09:35
mnasiadkayoctozepto: well, I'm getting it harder to manage all those versions in Dockerfiles, will look into moving that somewhere.09:35
yoctozeptofugly09:35
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mgoddardyoctozepto: hmm, I wonder if it's affected by running the common role in a separate play or not09:45
mgoddarddougsz: which version did you hit the fluentd config issue on?09:45
yoctozeptomgoddard: why would it? is the file check happening in a different role?09:46
dougszmgoddard: Ussuri09:46
yoctozeptodifferent play*09:47
dougszI can take another look soon09:47
mgoddardyoctozepto: previously the common role was imported multiple times. If that was hidden behind an include it might behave differently than an import. Just a hunch, it could be broken in both cases09:50
yoctozeptomgoddard: hmm, true09:52
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Support CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76585409:54
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Support CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76585409:58
openstackgerritOliver Horecny proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Removing of unused nova services after upgrade  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76534710:08
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla master: Remove retired Searchlight support and images  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76456610:19
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove retired Searchlight support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76456510:23
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove retired Searchlight support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76456510:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe-config master: Remove retired Searchlight support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe-config/+/76457410:26
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla master: Remove retired Qinling support and images  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76455910:31
yoctozeptohmm, I think I can't see the drop of karbor10:31
yoctozeptomgoddard: can you see it10:32
yoctozeptowas it missed or karbor got restored?10:32
mgoddardyoctozepto: I don't see any patches proposed10:32
yoctozeptome neither10:33
yoctozeptogmann: could you clarify the state of karbor retirement?10:33
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove retired Qinling support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76456010:34
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove retired Searchlight support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76456510:40
hrw+2 on all10:41
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yoctozepto+2 to rule them all10:42
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hrwyoctozepto: I do not remember who and why enabled powertools. Now, when ozzzo made a patch to rename it, I took a time to check how it goes if we disable it by default.10:43
yoctozeptohrw: ack10:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe-config master: Remove retired Qinling support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe-config/+/76455410:49
hrwpowertools were enabled since we added centos810:50
hrwhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765807 - can someone take a look at it?11:10
hrwtier 2 images stuff11:10
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openstackgerritPiotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: Add Prometheus 2.x  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76597311:34
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Fl1ntHi everyone!12:37
Fl1ntteam, if I want to create new documentation about cloudkitty and keystone features, do I need a new bug report or can I just write done the doc on a patch?12:41
Fl1ntother question12:41
Fl1ntwhat is currently the more natural/best location to put those documentations?12:41
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: [CI] Stop testing lower-constraints  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76599513:05
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yoctozeptoCentOS 8 releases are discontinued -> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2020-December/075451.html14:11
kplant-_-14:12
yoctozeptokplant: my thoughts exactly14:13
yoctozeptokplant: well, they have limited resources14:14
mgoddardyoctozepto: good find. I've added a priority to switch to stream in Wallaby14:19
yoctozeptomgoddard: thanks, acting in qa too14:26
yoctozeptowe surely should switch to stream, now it's mandatory14:27
yoctozeptothankfully, 8.3 made it closer to stream14:27
yoctozepto(just what hit us)14:27
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mnasiadkawell, we already build images from stream, right?14:33
mnasiadkaor not14:35
mnasiadkaI always thought centos:8 is stream14:35
yoctozeptomnasiadka: me too, but it was like 1.5 month ago when I discovered this is not the case :-)14:37
yoctozeptoglad I was not alone!14:38
yoctozeptosent a centos-8 notification mail to the ml: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-December/019279.html14:40
yoctozeptowe will very likely switch victoria as well14:43
yoctozeptoto stream I mean14:43
kplantmgoddard: we finally got that dev i've been teasing14:51
kplanthe's in here already: cybermind14:51
kplanti'll let him introduce himself when he's around, currently doing day 1/2 orientation14:51
yoctozeptocybermind sounds like what we need14:51
yoctozeptoI mean who we need14:51
yoctozeptowelcome in the community!14:51
kplantwe intend for him to spend most of his time here and to become a core :-)14:52
yoctozeptowe truly need more so it sounds good14:52
yoctozeptoflame war on the centos devel ml14:56
yoctozeptogeez, on #centos-devel it's fun as well14:57
kplantQ5: Does this mean that CentOS Stream is the RHEL BETA test platform now?14:59
kplantA: No. CentOS Stream will be getting fixes and features ahead of RHEL. Generally speaking, we expect CentOS Stream to have fewer bugs and more runtime features than RHEL until those packages make it into the RHEL release.14:59
kplanthow does that make _any_ sense14:59
yoctozeptothey *expect*, you know15:00
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Fl1ntFor god sake... RH is shooting at them...15:02
openstackgerritPiotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla master: Add Prometheus 2.x image  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76591615:02
yoctozeptowow15:03
yoctozeptojust learned centos 8 stream lifespan is only 5 years15:03
kplantyep :-(15:03
yoctozeptosheeeeet15:03
Fl1ntWhat's really annoying with these moves is that they kind of lead you to either use a fedora like distribution on production platform, or switch to RHEL but RHEL is a pain to integrate with anything not RH stamped...15:03
kplantmight be time for a s/centos/debian at my company15:03
yoctozeptowhere is that ubuntu cd I've thrown into the recycle bin15:03
Fl1ntyeah, I think I'll goes with a LFS15:04
yoctozeptoI'm going to take it back and say I'm sorry15:04
Fl1ntall in all, I just need Kernel/Grub/SystemD/LVM15:04
Fl1ntyoctozepto, same feeling... it hurts...15:04
gmannyoctozepto: karbor retirement is not yet started, Kendal volunteer to do that, so waiting for that.15:08
yoctozeptogmann: ack15:08
gmannyoctozepto: i meam retirement is final but work is not yet started15:08
yoctozeptothanks15:08
gmannmean15:08
yoctozeptoahh, ok15:08
yoctozeptomakes sense15:08
openstackgerritOliver Horecny proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Removing of unused nova services after upgrade  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/76534715:16
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bsanjewaHi, anyone met with this? https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200842915:25
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priteaubsanjewa: CentOS images ship with an ens3 file which is removed by the MichaelRigart.interfaces role used by Kayobe15:50
priteauNot sure why you ended up with a file called ifcfg-ens3-115:50
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bsanjewapriteau: anything updated in the CentOS image, may be? Yesterday there was a problem in the bifrost_deploy with libgcrypt. The version installed was giving an error, so had to run yum upgrade libgcrypt within the container. It was when running kayobe seed service deploy16:12
priteauWhat's your CentOS image version?16:12
bsanjewaIt says CentOS Linux release 8.3.201116:13
bsanjewaovercloud16:13
yoctozeptoyes, they published it16:14
yoctozeptoit bit our bottoms due to renamed repos16:15
yoctozeptoit could have other surprises16:15
bsanjewabifrost_deply is CentOS Linux release 8.2.2004 (Core)16:15
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bsanjewaso may be stick to the old image by mentioning it somewhere in the config files?16:20
priteauThat's what Kayobe does for the seed VM16:21
priteauHowever, the overcloud root disk image is built by diskimage-builder and this may pull the latest16:22
bsanjewaoh, seems a little more debugging then16:23
Fl1ntyoctozepto, Can you keep in touch if the guy that proposed a CentOS fork contact you? I'm interested on it.16:25
priteaubsanjewa: I confirm that this is an issue with the new CentOS image16:28
priteau# ls -l /mnt/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/16:28
priteautotal 1216:28
priteau-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 278 Dec  4 17:41 ifcfg-ens316:28
priteau-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 278 Dec  4 17:41 ifcfg-ens3-116:28
priteau-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 126 Dec  4 17:42 ifcfg-eth016:28
yoctozeptoFl1nt: sure, I will let the community know when I learn anything16:28
yoctozeptono reason for me to hide it from you16:29
Fl1ntOh no no, not implying any hide, just didn't knew if it was something that was of interest of anyone else.16:30
bsanjewapriteau: well when the host is configured, then it comes to the services, doesn't it? Never had the chance to go beyond overcloud host configure. so let's see16:33
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yoctozeptoFl1nt: oh, no worries16:37
yoctozeptoI will definitely write it here and to the ml ;-)16:38
yoctozeptowell, unless I'm incapable for some other reason16:38
Fl1ntI'm really starting to think about throwing out some money and resources in order to create a real linux enterprise ready distribution not aiming for money but for stability and operational automation/easyness.16:39
Fl1ntlike, a mix between what CoreOS promised and CentOS16:39
dswebbheh, you guys talking about the centos 8 announcement going rhel devel version?16:40
dswebbjust came here to see what you guys thought about it16:40
yoctozeptodswebb: I'm sad about the short lifespan16:43
dswebbyeah, end of 202116:43
yoctozeptodswebb: I mean of stream16:43
yoctozeptodswebb: 2024, like 7 :-(16:43
dswebbreally?  I didn't even see that16:43
yoctozeptoinstead of the planned, glorious 202916:43
yoctozeptodswebb: yes, really16:44
yoctozeptohalved life16:44
yoctozeptolike due to a curse in an rpg16:44
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dswebbwhere have you seen that?  I only see mention of centos 7 going end of maintenance in 2024, and that centos 8 goes away 2021 to be replaced by stream.  but no dates as to when stream specifically ends16:46
yoctozeptodswebb: it is supported as long as rhel 8 is in full support16:46
yoctozeptodswebb: we are discussing that on #centos-devel if you care to join and say how unhappy you are about red hat breaking their promise16:47
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Fl1nt"Discussing" I'm worry that RH decided about things already.16:52
Fl1ntWhat I'm more and more not really liking within the Opensource community is those boards of members filled with no devs or contributors or any technicals trying to push things and make the open source community looking and behaving like a company.16:53
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Fl1ntlike, the board of OS and RH decided a lot of things lately based on "We ear of someone willing to ..." or "We expect..." or yet "Some told us, so..." and they don't provide any real numbers, any proof and just move on with the changes even if the whole community is telling them to not.16:55
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Fl1ntIt's hurting a lot as we start to feel more like lemmings that used by someone else or even companies than a real community driven by fun and willing. CNCF is an additional example.16:57
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yoctozeptoFl1nt: yeah, it's not like we can change their minds17:03
yoctozeptoFl1nt: care to elaborate on OS and CNCF?17:04
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dswebbit doesn't sound quite as apocalyptic as their announcement made it out to be.17:08
dswebbbit of a shame though that it will now be rhels guinea pig release17:09
yoctozeptodswebb: I like stream, I just don't like the very short life of it17:10
yoctozeptoplus all those vendors that force point compatibility17:11
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Fl1ntdswebb, It's not apocalyptic in theory, but in practice, I'll wait and see ;-) I've already been bit hard by Google/Facebook/Microsoft/CoreOS on those rolling things.17:15
dswebbyeah,the continuous release of stream will be somewhat difficult.  we use kernel-ml and know all about how it's short life cycle can make your life hell17:16
yoctozeptodswebb: woosh, why are you using kernel-ml17:17
dswebbbecause we're doing lots of work with mellanox offloads and ovn17:17
dswebband some of the tcflower offloads only come in the later kernel releases17:18
yoctozeptoah, this17:18
Fl1ntI'm ready to bet a dim that it will backfire them during 2021 at some point, one will introduce a package change that will be unitary tested, distro tested but don't get interaction tested and will broke, like keepalived/haproxy or apache/php-fpm etc17:18
yoctozeptoI'm more optimistic about this side of the problem17:18
dswebbbut yeah, it means we need to create our own snapshots of the kernel repos to make sure we get well defined versions.  I imagine we'll have to do the same thing with stream so we can get a defined build for our testing->staging->production17:19
Fl1ntyoctozepto, Regarding CNCF and OS, if you look deeper at the boards meetings, and are close to people that have been hurted by those boards, you'll get the under the hood politicals and reasons of changes, like with Google/RedHat killing Docker by forcing them to became obsolete.17:24
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yoctozeptoFl1nt: I see, but it did not really answer my question; true that docker's case can be now shown both how not to do open source and *why* not to do open source which is sad17:28
Fl1ntregarding the OS boards, look at the recent discussion about diversity or release lifespan etc, it's becoming more and more evident that they just throw away ideas and try to enforce them by having few community members trying to convince everyone but then trigger an endless discussion and so finally telling everyone: We're not listening anymore, we move on.17:31
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yoctozeptoFl1nt: what was wrong about diversity?17:34
yoctozeptogenuinely asking17:34
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix copying Swift ring files  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/76605917:35
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Fl1ntyoctozepto, Nothing about diversity itself, just the arguments and way of doing things, I'm more than happy to welcome anyone, but some discussion are just non sens and US focused about the problem they rise.17:36
Fl1ntExemple of silly discussion/decision17:37
yoctozeptohmm, I likely was not paying enough attention17:37
Fl1ntthey want to vault usage of words or any hurting characters/expressions but without taking count of specific local divergence between US and EU for instance. Like, they enforce/forbid the usage of some smileys on chan that can show them, because they're offending for some users.17:39
Fl1ntbut then17:39
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: DNM: Test Swift  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/76461717:39
Fl1ntthose offending symbols completely mean something else in Italie or even France/Europe17:39
Fl1ntlike this one:https://www.ouest-france.fr/leditiondusoir/data/66104/NextGenData/Image-384-512-12704634.jpg?t=%22f9a73abed2bae9249bb63f1b240ba296gzip%2217:40
Fl1ntthis icon on Italy/France means, everything is OK or that's perfect17:40
Fl1ntbut I hardly learned that it is offending in the US (Still don't know why).17:40
yoctozeptoah yes17:41
Fl1ntSo17:41
Fl1ntall in all, they're telling people17:41
yoctozeptowell, this is an international community17:41
yoctozeptoI don't mind17:41
yoctozeptoI don't need to put my fingers like this all the time :D17:41
Fl1ntWe love diversity discussion and exception when it hurt US based community, but doesn't think about other or just deny them. Few other contributors vocalized that lately, some from China, some from EU and we faced political answers all along.17:42
Fl1ntyoctozepto, Of course I'm not focusing on such discussion but it stack up over all those bullshit everywhere instead of focusing on what actually matter, the project.17:43
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yoctozeptoI see; anyhow, logging out; I might push some change later but now taking an irc break17:44
yoctozeptohave a nice evening17:44
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: DNM: Test Swift  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/76461717:50
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Fl1ntyoctozepto, cheers, doing the same, have a nice evening!17:55
yoctozeptoFl1nt: you too (ah the joy of notifications)17:58
Fl1nt^^18:01
kevkoguys, how i can disable upgrade and restart l3-agent ..is it possible to comment whole block of l3-agent in defaults ?18:03
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bsanjewaHi, could anyone look at this? https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200843018:19
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: [CI] Slim down  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76608319:38
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Support CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76585419:40
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Support CentOS 8.3  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/76585419:41
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ozzzoIs anyone else having trouble running Ussuri Horizon containers on Centos 8.3?21:04
ozzzoThe error is: {"log":"CommandError: An error occurred during rendering /var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/openstack_dashboard/templates/horizon/_scripts.html: Couldn't find any precompiler in COMPRESS_PRECOMPILERS setting for mimetype '\\'text/javascript\\''.\n"21:04
ozzzo_scripts.html looks like it is just loading compress and then compressing a list of files21:05
ozzzohttps://paste.centos.org/view/23ba271121:05
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