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| mnasiadka | morning | 06:28 |
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| mnasiadka | maybe it's time to integrate etherpad with some authentication? :) | 06:29 |
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| yoctozepto | morning | 07:11 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: fsck, you won't believe it | 07:57 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: both whiteboard and ptg in Chinese again | 07:58 |
| yoctozepto | .... | 07:58 |
| mnasiadka | as I said, there must be some bot doing that | 07:58 |
| yoctozepto | it looks as though they do it manually | 07:58 |
| yoctozepto | well, semimanually | 07:58 |
| yoctozepto | they skip nicks and urls | 07:58 |
| yoctozepto | or maybe it's just a feature of that bot | 07:59 |
| yoctozepto | fun fact they translate only the top half lol | 07:59 |
| mnasiadka | uhh | 08:01 |
| mnasiadka | timeslider is useless | 08:01 |
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| yoctozepto | indeed | 08:21 |
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| hrw | yay | 08:32 |
| hrw | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0oFzMremvyOz9wSA-W4FkWAktg5dHqKIT744JsKY7E/edit?usp=sharing | 08:33 |
| hrw | I suggest we move notes to gdocs and just leave link in etherpad | 08:33 |
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| mgoddard | hrw: well we would certainly see no chinese in google land... | 08:36 |
| mgoddard | I have restored the export of the pad. Hopefully there were no useful updates over the weekend | 08:37 |
| mnasiadka | well, export/import is one solution | 08:37 |
| hrw | mgoddard: easier to revert edits | 08:37 |
| hrw | mgoddard: or add devs as editors and rest as commenters | 08:37 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: how did you preserve the formatting? | 08:37 |
| mgoddard | HTML export | 08:38 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: my procedure broke it for the whiteboard | 08:38 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: me too | 08:38 |
| mgoddard | it loses headings, but they are easy enough to restore | 08:38 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: could be firefox? | 08:38 |
| yoctozepto | ah, ok | 08:38 |
| yoctozepto | so you did that part manually | 08:38 |
| mgoddard | yes | 08:38 |
| yoctozepto | ack | 08:38 |
| yoctozepto | or rather | 08:38 |
| yoctozepto | you are doing it | 08:38 |
| hrw | Over first hour today I will be voice only or not present | 08:39 |
| hrw | have to walk a dog | 08:39 |
| mgoddard | woof | 08:39 |
| hrw | foow | 08:40 |
| yoctozepto | bark bark | 08:40 |
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| wuchunyang | It seems to be translated by translation software. not manually , | 09:01 |
| yoctozepto | added the same notice to the whiteboard | 09:03 |
| yoctozepto | let's hope it was not a bot | 09:03 |
| wuchunyang | ironically , he add the notice (do not translate the page), but he did it. | 09:08 |
| mgoddard | wuchunyang: I added the notice | 09:10 |
| wuchunyang | ..... I thought it was added by the one translated it | 09:13 |
| mgoddard | maybe we just need to find whatever software is doing the translation, then translate back | 09:14 |
| wuchunyang | need help ？ | 09:14 |
| wuchunyang | i try to translate to english ? | 09:15 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: translating back and forth will surely be fun | 09:15 |
| yoctozepto | let's see if the notice helps | 09:15 |
| wuchunyang | chinese to english != english to chinese | 09:16 |
| yoctozepto | mhm | 09:16 |
| mgoddard | wuchunyang: thanks. It is back in english now but it may happen again | 09:16 |
| yoctozepto | wuchunyang: is that notice in Chinese fine? | 09:16 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard got it from gtranslate | 09:17 |
| wuchunyang | yes, but it is wired . | 09:17 |
| kevko | morning \o/ | 09:17 |
| wuchunyang | wired -> weird | 09:17 |
| yoctozepto | if you can rewrite it then so that it is easy to understand by native speakers, we would be very glad | 09:18 |
| wuchunyang | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-victoria-ptg still in chinese now . | 09:18 |
| yoctozepto | no ducking way..... | 09:18 |
| wuchunyang | rewrite https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-victoria-ptg ? | 09:19 |
| yoctozepto | rewrite the notice begging for no translation :D | 09:20 |
| wuchunyang | ok | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: build: unbreak JSON serializer on failed builds https://review.opendev.org/758957 | 09:25 |
| wuchunyang | done | 09:25 |
| hrw | please review | 09:25 |
| hrw | also added Status.NONE for testing purposes | 09:25 |
| hrw | as py3x tests were failing | 09:26 |
| kevko | guys, if i will want to join to PTG , can someone advise me how to deal with it ? where to join (sorry, never done before ) | 09:27 |
| kevko | somehow i registered to eventbride ..as it is noted in etherpad ..and will add my name to top of the page ..but don't know where to join when it will be .. | 09:27 |
| hrw | kevko: link to video will be added to etherpad. join with mic | 09:27 |
| yoctozepto | wuchunyang: thanks | 09:28 |
| kevko | hrw: ah, ok , thank you | 09:28 |
| yoctozepto | so this is right -> 每个人都可以更改这个页面， 所以请不要翻译此页面。 | 09:28 |
| wuchunyang | this is easy to understand. | 09:29 |
| yoctozepto | ok | 09:29 |
| hrw | and nice polite message | 09:31 |
| hrw | (after zh->en translation) | 09:31 |
| hrw | ok. passed tox ;D | 09:42 |
| hrw | kevko: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/759387/ is something you should review and react | 09:45 |
| patchbot | patch 759387 - kolla - base: use Victoria repos for Debian/x86-64 - 2 patch sets | 09:45 |
| hrw | kevko: and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/759392/1 | 09:45 |
| patchbot | patch 759392 - kolla - mark trove images as buildable for Debian/x86-64 - 1 patch set | 09:45 |
| hrw | kevko: I would add you to reviewers just forgot your real name | 09:45 |
| yoctozepto | hrw, kevko: Michal Arbet perhaps? | 09:46 |
| mgoddard | correct | 09:47 |
| hrw | thanks. added | 09:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: mark trove images as buildable for Debian/x86-64 https://review.opendev.org/759392 | 09:49 |
| hrw | rebased | 09:49 |
| kevko | yes :) | 09:51 |
| kevko | going to check | 09:52 |
| hrw | thanks | 09:53 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: maybe you can check my review about logging :) ..i will fix manila in a while | 09:54 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: or at least ensure you understand it enough to discuss at the PTG | 10:04 |
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| mgoddard | do we want to keep the octavia docs for manual installation? | 10:12 |
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| yoctozepto | kevko, mgoddard: you mean the same thing? ok, it is for tomorrow so I should be able to get to it then | 10:39 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: octavia docs for manual sound sane to keep as auto can always be disabled and approached pretty manually; otoh, it is a burden | 10:39 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: your thoughts? ^ | 10:40 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: yeah, I asked before realising wu.chunyang had added them back | 10:40 |
| mgoddard | I think it mades sense to keep them | 10:40 |
| mnasiadka | it sounds sane to keep | 10:40 |
| mnasiadka | as long as it doesn't add some management burden :) | 10:40 |
| yoctozepto | so we all agree so let's keep | 10:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: docs: add octavia auto-configuration https://review.opendev.org/746409 | 11:03 |
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| hrw | mnasiadka, yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/758957 | 11:16 |
| patchbot | patch 758957 - kolla - build: unbreak JSON serializer on failed builds - 3 patch sets | 11:16 |
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| * hrw later | 11:18 | |
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| kevko | hrw: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/759387/ will be fixed in few minutes | 11:38 |
| patchbot | patch 759387 - kolla - base: use Victoria repos for Debian/x86-64 - 2 patch sets | 11:38 |
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| hrw | kevko: cool. do 'recheck' once repos got updated | 12:07 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: it seems I'll be a bit late for PTG, customer meeting. | 12:09 |
| hrw | can someone add PTG link to channel topic? | 12:10 |
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| *** hrw changes topic to "IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://bit.ly/2MM7mWF | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b | PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-wallaby-ptg" | 12:11 | |
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| hrw | turned out that I can too | 12:11 |
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| yoctozepto | better with bitly, shorter | 12:16 |
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| hrw | yoctozepto: feel free to fix | 12:16 |
| yoctozepto | I GOT THE POWER, POWER <3 | 12:17 |
| *** yoctozepto changes topic to "IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://bit.ly/2MM7mWF | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b | PTG: https://bit.ly/3ou3mMg" | 12:18 | |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html <- may you perhaps want to do the same magic that osa does? :-) | 12:22 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: could do | 12:29 |
| yoctozepto | welcome indeed | 12:29 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: https://review.opendev.org/759253 need this to allow the reno patch and linting in | 12:41 |
| patchbot | patch 759253 - kolla-ansible - [tox] Optimise docs actions - 2 patch sets | 12:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sven Kieske proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: re-add rabbitmq config for interfaces https://review.opendev.org/758576 | 12:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sven Kieske proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: re-add rabbitmq config for interfaces https://review.opendev.org/758576 | 12:47 |
| hrw | uf. zoom | 12:50 |
| hrw | not jitsi, not bbb etc | 12:50 |
| yoctozepto | (ノ ゜Д゜)ノ c┻━┻ | 12:51 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: what about bluejeans | 12:52 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: cinder seems to be using it | 12:52 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: works fine for us at Red Hat | 12:53 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: I see | 12:53 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: and webex? | 12:53 |
| hrw | Bluejeans, Google Meet, MS Teams, Zoom are platforms I know working. | 12:53 |
| hrw | webex is cursed shit | 12:53 |
| kplant | bluejeans is surprisingly great, imo | 12:54 |
| hrw | I know one person which is fine with webex. And several which spit and curse when webex name is mentioned. | 12:54 |
| kplant | zoom doesn't care about privacy or platform stability | 12:54 |
| hrw | kplant: I use zoom 3+ times per week. for meetings up to 7-8 hours. | 12:55 |
| hrw | kplant: from 2 to 30 persons, usually ~half with cameras on | 12:55 |
| kplant | admittedly i haven't joined a zoom meeting since it became public how evil and negligent they are, but prior to that i never had a good experience anyway | 12:55 |
| hrw | kplant: last zoom failure was ~may | 12:56 |
| hrw | kplant: so you run jitsi or bbb on your personal server to make sure that no one else than you affects privacy of attendents? | 12:56 |
| hrw | google meet is evil google, ms teams is evil m$, zoom is evil... | 12:57 |
| kplant | no, but we do use webex (not my favorite) for work releated meetings which as e2e | 12:58 |
| kplant | but zoom is especially crap, if you care this is a pretty good summary of its history: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-security-privacy-woes | 12:59 |
| kplant | these are my opinions, not the opinions of any company or project.. blah blah | 13:00 |
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| Fl1nt | Hi everyone! | 13:00 |
| Fl1nt | mgoddard, do you have any link for PTG that do NOT use zoom ? | 13:01 |
| hrw | kplant: something which is not video? | 13:01 |
| kplant | oh i didn't look at the video, if you scroll down there's a chronological summary | 13:01 |
| hrw | kplant: yeah with 'bug found. bug patched/fixed' etc | 13:02 |
| yoctozepto | let the ptg begin | 13:02 |
| kplant | more like "got caught, backed down" :-) | 13:02 |
| hrw | October 25, 2020 Version number: 5.4.53268.1025 | 13:02 |
| hrw | -End-to-end (E2E) encryption for meetings | 13:02 |
| kplant | i saw, that used to be a paid-only feature. good on them | 13:03 |
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| yoctozepto | > https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-wallaby-ptg < | 13:04 |
| yoctozepto | join zoom | 13:04 |
| Fl1nt | @yoctozepto, any non zoom URL ? | 13:05 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: no, why? | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: +33 1 8699 5831 | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | +33 1 7037 2246 | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | +33 1 7037 9729 | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | +33 1 7095 0103 | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | 998 9673 8912 | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | 466637 | 13:05 |
| yoctozepto | uhm, why so many? | 13:05 |
| Fl1nt | gonna use my own laptop so ^^ | 13:05 |
| hrw | what is passcode for meeting? | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: aren't you the one that wants to switch to proprietary comms? :p | 13:05 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: not 466637? | 13:06 |
| mgoddard | hrw: ptg | 13:06 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: the zoom link should work out of the box though | 13:06 |
| Fl1nt | yeah, Just zoom security being... wacky... | 13:06 |
| Fl1nt | https://meetpad.opendev.org/ <-- and we've got that too :p | 13:06 |
| yoctozepto | it's wacky but worky | 13:06 |
| Fl1nt | anyway, I'm in ^^ | 13:06 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: meetpad makes hrw nogo | 13:06 |
| Fl1nt | ok ok | 13:07 |
| hrw | last time we used meetpad it was supposed to work in some browsers on some platforms. | 13:08 |
| hrw | just was hard to agree for definitions of 'in some' and 'on some' | 13:08 |
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| hrw | will be on headphones | 13:10 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: could use #kolla now blahblah | 13:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rafael Weingärtner proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Kolla-ansible to handle (admin, internal, and public) endpoints via DNS names https://review.opendev.org/759706 | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use native fluent-logger instead of tail - Fluent central_logging https://review.opendev.org/755775 | 15:04 |
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| timss | Hi folks, I'd just like to jump in to say that I've been working on a new production OpenStack deployment using Kolla on Ubuntu lately and have been following the development around Victoria, Kolla on Ubuntu and Kolla in general. Looks like there's a lot of great activity, keep up the good work :D I'm looking to run what'll probably be Victoria on Ubuntu 20.04 when that gets around, but still a lot | 16:09 |
| timss | of work to be done until that gets here. Anyway, /back to lurking | 16:09 |
| Fl1nt | timss, Thanks a lot to you for trusting Kolla project, we hope it helped and eased a lot your deployments. | 16:13 |
| yoctozepto | timss: thanks, it means a lot to hear kind words now and then :-) | 16:18 |
| hrw | timss: thanks | 16:18 |
| hrw | timss: you know that you can run 'master' images too? they are victoria based still | 16:19 |
| hrw | maybe you catch some last moment bugs ;D | 16:19 |
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| yoctozepto | timss: hrw is right debian and ubuntu are pretty much final victoria already | 16:22 |
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| timss | Fl1nt: I've attended one of the "A Universe from Nothing" sessions and kept an eye on Kolla for a couple of years now, but this will be the first time I've had the opportunity to work on it on a dedicated basis (I wear many hats, though..) | 16:29 |
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| timss | I was a bit unsure what went into the master images, I'll have a look, cheers. This will be an offline installation so having a tagged release will make it easier to work with once that's here, but I'll see what I can do | 16:30 |
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| hrw | timss: build own images and push them to local registry? you can tag them as you like | 17:00 |
| hrw | timss: at Linaro Developer Cloud we use ldc-BRANCH-BUILDNUMBER so ldc-victoria-18 for example | 17:00 |
| timss | that's what I recked we'll end up doing as well, just been using the prebuilt images to get started for now | 17:02 |
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| rouk | was the kibana-6 upgrade migration tested much recently? ive had to fix a bunch of stuff to make it upgrade successfully on a cluster that started on rocky | 18:49 |
| rouk | mysteriously, slightly newer clusters had no issue, not sure how. | 18:51 |
| yoctozepto | there are lots of edge cases | 18:51 |
| rouk | well... we had issues with json encoding in ansible single quoting the data before PUTing to elastic for example, which couldnt have ever worked for anyone... | 18:53 |
| rouk | and status_code syntax also broken on the check state of migration | 18:54 |
| rouk | for some reason ansible isnt a fan of [200, 404], tries to int('[200') | 18:54 |
| rouk | and kibana-6 already existing isnt caught, is the last one we hit | 18:56 |
| rouk | i guess i should pack up a patch into a bug? | 18:56 |
| yoctozepto | would be very welcome | 19:00 |
| rouk | looks like someone already attempted the last issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1875812 | 19:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1875812 in kolla-ansible ussuri "invalid_index_name_exception on second deploy of Elasticsearch 6.x" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to XiaojueGuan (xiaojuegaun) | 19:00 |
| rouk | not fixed in ussuri, can confirm nope. | 19:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: base: use Victoria repos for Debian/x86-64 https://review.opendev.org/759387 | 20:01 |
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| rouk | yoctozepto: if multiple tickets related to this issue have been tagged as fixed, and theyre not, how should i go about reviving them? | 20:44 |
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| rouk | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1881862 found this one as well | 20:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1881862 in kolla-ansible "Train->Ussuri upgrade kibana fail" [Undecided,Fix released] | 20:45 |
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| yoctozepto | rouk: report a new one and mention then | 21:07 |
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