Thursday, 2020-10-15

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yoctozeptoFl1nt: oh, that's a nasty blocker (ceph podman)06:37
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yoctozeptomgoddard: if there are no objections from your side, I would cancel today's kall too - let's push the reviews instead07:08
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mgoddardyoctozepto: we probably need to cancel the next N meetings07:45
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mnasiadkamorning07:49
mnasiadkayoctozepto: ceph-ansible now doesn't allow you to enforce docker?07:49
mgoddardcertainly in nautilus you could use docker07:50
openstackgerritEgon Rijpkema proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Closes-Bug: 1606143  https://review.opendev.org/75836107:57
openstackbug 1606143 in kolla "SSL termination in external loadbalancer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160614307:57
ug_egonAs this is my first review, i hope i followed the Guide well enough....07:59
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mgoddardug_egon: thanks, looks like a good start08:01
mnasiadkamgoddard: seems you still can in master, so I don't get Fl1nt's issue08:17
openstackgerritDoug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Wait for Monasca API to come up  https://review.opendev.org/65652808:37
openstackgerritDoug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Add monasca scenario  https://review.opendev.org/64989308:37
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yoctozeptomgoddard, mnasiadka: then me neither :-)08:59
yoctozeptomgoddard: next 2 at least08:59
yoctozeptomgoddard: one today, one conflicts with ptg08:59
yoctozeptomgoddard: are we cancelling/rescheduling the next 2 irc meetings as well? (as they conflict with open infra summit and ptg respectively?)09:01
openstackgerritwu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: octavia: support tenant management network  https://review.opendev.org/75558909:01
mgoddardyoctozepto: yes09:01
yoctozeptomgoddard: and the kolla klub?09:01
mgoddardyoctozepto: everything!09:02
yoctozepto(one instance)09:02
yoctozeptomgoddard: OK09:02
mgoddardcancel it all09:02
mgoddardcancel the summit09:02
mnasiadkacancel everything, deprecate everything?09:02
mnasiadka:)09:02
mgoddardcancel culture09:02
yoctozepto%$&^%&&Q09:02
yoctozeptoxD09:02
mgoddardcancel cancel culture09:02
yoctozeptoI beg to differ, sir09:02
yoctozepto:D09:02
mgoddardthat is a discussion for another time :)09:03
yoctozeptowell, anyhow09:03
yoctozeptoasking because I wanted to write a mail to ml09:03
yoctozeptoand it does not make sense to deliver 3 separate mails09:03
mgoddardsure, go for it09:05
mgoddardthanks09:06
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yoctozeptohttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-October/017985.html09:15
yoctozeptomgoddard: ^09:15
yoctozeptoI'll add to meeting pages as well09:16
mgoddardack09:16
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Fl1ntGood morning everyone!09:17
openstackgerritDoug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Add monasca scenario  https://review.opendev.org/64989309:19
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yoctozeptoFl1nt: morning; what about that ceph+podman? @ mgoddard, mnasiadka09:41
openstackgerritwu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: octavia: support tenant management network  https://review.opendev.org/75558909:44
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openstackgerritwu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: octavia: support tenant management network  https://review.opendev.org/75558909:50
Fl1ntHi yoctozepto09:50
Fl1ntIt works, what however is incertain is if having two runtime manager running in parallel isn't a little clanky ^^09:51
Fl1ntactually, I really like the podman approach as it is really closer to what a container is.09:51
mgoddardFl1nt: but you can configure ceph-ansible to use docker, right?09:57
Fl1ntnot with CentOS-8 it's podman defacto09:57
Fl1ntbecause the python-docker old library they used to manage docker containers on C7 doesn't exist anymore on C809:59
yoctozeptoAh, the rpm package they want09:59
Fl1nthonestly, migrating to podman for C8 based installation is smart, it's fresher, cleaner and easier to manage (systemd units vs broker calls).10:00
yoctozeptoYeah, podman feels better overally10:00
mgoddardFl1nt: it's not smart if you want to keep using kolla :D10:01
Fl1ntmgoddard, except if I take on me to work on the podman transition :p10:01
Fl1ntonce I'll have finish with cloud kitty of course :p10:01
mgoddardFl1nt: if you think you will do it in the Wallaby cycle, please add to the PTG agenda10:01
Fl1ntfor now my roadmap priority is: Get the platform back using C7 based image on the test region, then get cloudkitty to work by the end of the week, if not just jump on ADFS based Federated keystone as the priority of this feature is way more important for us, then10:03
Fl1ntonce I'll have finished with ADFS related works10:03
Fl1ntI'll finish cloudkitty10:03
Fl1ntand then works on C8 migration roadmap.10:03
Fl1ntso, I think all in all it lead me to 2021 with our current schedule, when is Wallaby cycle supposed to finish mgoddard ?10:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe stable/train: Add missing barbican.conf support  https://review.opendev.org/75807710:04
mnasiadkajust playing a devils advocate - what is wrong in running podman and docker containers on the same host?10:04
Fl1ntmnasiadka, I don't know as I never tested it, but I'm not a fan of running two manager of namespaces on a production env.10:05
mgoddardFl1nt: well we will be wrapping up Victoria soon, then it will be ~6 months until the Wallaby release10:05
openstackgerritwu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: octavia: create and test a load balancer  https://review.opendev.org/75428510:06
mgoddardthey should be able to coexist10:06
Fl1ntmgoddard, with my current planning I doubt I'll be able to push a WIP podman change until January/February10:07
mgoddardthat could be early enough for Wallaby10:07
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mgoddardbut really it's a bit task, and probably needs a full cycle to get it done properly10:08
Fl1ntThat's the "should" that worry me, I need the platform to be stable for 15 December, if I receive my ordered servers in time for me to get enough capacity on my staging zone, then I'll be able to test that assumption, but with10:08
mnasiadkaFl1nt: anyway, I'm pretty sure I used ceph-ansible on CentOS 8, so I doubt there is no way to use it and you're doomed for podman.10:08
mnasiadkaFl1nt: and why not use cephadm?10:08
Fl1ntcurrent COVID status all over the world... delivery is a little bit shaky ^^10:08
Fl1ntmnasiadka, did you used it on a hyperconverged design ?10:09
mnasiadkaFl1nt: yeah10:09
Fl1ntcephadm is only available starting Octopus, and don't yet provide container "dimensions" where I use them now on a nautilus cluster.10:09
openstackgerritwu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: remove octavia interface configs  https://review.opendev.org/74395410:10
mnasiadkadimensions on ceph containers? you're brave10:10
Fl1ntmnasiadka, hold on, let me make myself up, hyperconverged design and docker runtime ? How did you managed to get ceph-ansible to work without that missing python-docker rpm ?10:10
Fl1ntyep, it works really well actually.10:11
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Fl1ntI can literally feel the difference of performance on a host with NUMA binding and cpu/memory tight restriction over a host with less restrictive cpu/memory but still numa binding.10:12
Fl1ntwithout having the cluster to crash10:12
Fl1ntor even OSDs to crash10:13
mgoddardFl1nt: are you using cloudkitty with the ES storage backend?10:14
Fl1ntyes10:14
mgoddardFl1nt: if so, did you need to create the index manually?10:14
Fl1ntyes, but I've created the patch for that already ^^10:14
mgoddardFl1nt: upstream?10:14
Fl1ntI just need to push it ^^10:14
Fl1ntyep10:14
mgoddardFl1nt: could you do it now? :)10:15
Fl1ntlet me check if everything is in place.10:15
mgoddardI have a good opportunity to test it10:15
mgoddardI don't mind if it's a WIP10:15
Fl1ntok, hold on10:15
mgoddardthanks10:15
Fl1ntswitching to my openstack workspace10:15
mnasiadkaFl1nt: in which playbook does it try to install it?10:18
mnasiadkapython3-docker is well available from RDO OpenStack repo10:18
mnasiadkaif you really need to have it in rpm form10:18
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Fl1ntmnasiadka, I'll dig that and tell you.10:19
mnasiadkaFl1nt: remember to run ceph-ansible with --skip-tags with_pkg, because it will reinstall Docker runtime and do other weird things10:20
Fl1ntmnasiadka, it won't there is a var that I used that prohibit that actually.10:21
openstackgerritGaĆ«l THEROND proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [WIP] - Add missing cloudkitty storage and collector backend support.  https://review.opendev.org/75296510:22
Fl1ntmgoddard, here it is10:22
Fl1ntmnasiadka, I'll have a closer look this afternoon as I may have missed something according to your feedback. This platform release day becoming more pressing, I've may have miss something.10:23
Fl1nt*I may have10:23
Fl1ntmgoddard, don't worry about the whole vars insanity, I'll clean that out on the next push as I've made is cleaner on our own side.10:25
mgoddardthanks Fl1nt, looks good10:25
Fl1ntespecially for all those TLS things.10:26
Fl1ntjust be sure to use a ES6 structure for index10:26
Fl1ntbecause of the infamous document typing no longer required anymore on ES6.10:26
* Fl1nt is going to lunch, will be back around 4pm UTC.10:27
kevkohi, why check-containers.yml was removed from config.yml ?10:32
kevkooh, i see, it was moved to deploy10:35
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use native fluent-logger instead of tail - Fluent central_logging  https://review.opendev.org/75577510:36
mgoddardFl1nt: I just used the bootstrap task, but it worked. Thanks10:40
Fl1ntmgoddard, perfect :D10:47
kevkomgoddard: could you please just check my question in my review ? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/755775/4 ..10:55
patchbotpatch 755775 - kolla-ansible - Use native fluent-logger instead of tail - Fluent ... - 4 patch sets10:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe stable/train: Performance: skip LVM configuration if no groups configured  https://review.opendev.org/75807411:57
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mnasiadkamgoddard: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/747319/1 - does it qualify as a feature and needs to wait for W? :)13:43
patchbotpatch 747319 - kolla-ansible (stable/ussuri) - Add trove-guestagent.conf - 1 patch set13:43
mnasiadkaah it's backport13:43
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kplantwe just deployed a new cloud with external https, not internal13:44
kplanthowever horizon and nova are trying to produce vnc links with http and not https13:45
kplantand are failing as a result13:45
kplantany idea where this is coming from?13:45
kplantlooks like all the service endpoints are http for some reason, going to try a reconfigure13:49
Fl1ntkplant, a simple deploy should be enough13:49
Fl1ntkplant, seems like your public_protocol didn't were replaced with https, did you set the kolla_enable_tls_external boolean ?13:52
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: docs: Add initial all-in-one scenario  https://review.opendev.org/74858213:52
kplantsure did13:52
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Fl1ntwhat is your KOLLA_STRATEGY? COPY_ALWAYS ?13:52
kplantyeah13:53
Fl1ntweird, maybe your Ansible host is using cache too much.13:53
kplantfatal: [192.168.0.11]: FAILED! => {"msg": "The conditional check '(keystone_bootstrap.stdout | from_json).changed' failed. The error was: Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0)"}13:53
kplantoof13:53
kplantthis is not going well13:53
Fl1ntwith a reconfigure?13:53
kplantyeah13:53
Fl1nthence why I told you to use deploy instead.13:54
kplantyeah, already trying with deploy13:54
kplantthis is the first configure i've ever had fail on me13:54
kplantreconfigure*13:54
Fl1ntactually that doesn't matter as reconfigure call deploy and tasks may include subtask or not depending on your kolla action value.13:55
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mgoddardFl1nt: deploy == reconfigure13:55
Fl1ntyep13:56
Fl1ntkplant, this issue came from the register task13:56
mgoddardkplant: check keystone logs13:56
Fl1ntseems like your keystone container isn't in a good shape.13:57
mnasiadkakplant: check docker logs keystone :)13:57
kplantyeah it _was_ fine before the reconfigure13:58
kplanttrying to track down what made it unhappy13:58
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kplantERROR: Primary token 3 is stale.13:59
kplantseems to be the only error i see13:59
mnasiadkaso it wasn't fine :)13:59
kplantno it was, that's why it isn't running now14:00
kplantif it weren't i wouldn't have been able to experience my root problem earlier14:00
mnasiadkakplant: using latest code from git or point release?14:00
kplantlatest from stable/train14:00
mnasiadkafix for this check was merged like 2-3 weeks ago14:01
mnasiadkapaste the numbers from comparison before that error message14:01
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kplant+ '[' 395964 -gt 259200 ']'14:01
kplantthat guy?14:01
mnasiadkawell, your token is over 4 days old14:02
mnasiadkamgoddard: I'm wondering if we shouldn't just run rotation and push the tokens when it's stale... but then there's a chance it's getting rotated soon-ish.14:03
mgoddardmnasiadka: how do you coordinate between hosts?14:04
mgoddardover-rotation is bad too14:04
kplanthow can i get around this?14:04
mgoddardkplant: could you share the cron schedules from each of your keystone-fernet containers?14:06
kplantsure14:07
Fl1ntactually, fernet token can be rotated pretty much whenever you need it, customers with now invalidated tokens just have to authenticate again.14:07
kplant0 0 * * 0 /usr/bin/fernet-rotate.sh14:08
kplant0 0 * * 3 /usr/bin/fernet-rotate.sh14:08
kplantand no schedule on the 3rd14:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe stable/train: Document migration of seed VM to CentOS 8  https://review.opendev.org/75705614:09
mnasiadkakplant: since it's thursday, your second node should have rotated yesterday night, question why it haven't14:10
mnasiadkakplant: it's centos?14:10
kplantyeah - centos 714:10
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kplanti manually ran the rotation script, seems to have been successful14:14
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM]: Keystone fernet rotation testing  https://review.opendev.org/75843414:15
kplantdeploy has gotten further after14:16
kplantthat's weird14:16
Fl1ntmgoddard, nice one for the retry on bootstrap for cloudkitty and index existence validation. I'll integrate that too.14:18
Fl1ntand for the typos :D14:18
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kplantdeploy fixed the endpoint issue btw14:29
kplantthat was super weird14:29
Fl1ntkplant, glad to read that ^^14:29
kplantshould i worry about the tokens not cycling on their own?14:29
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: docs: Add initial all-in-one scenario  https://review.opendev.org/74858214:40
mgoddardkplant: yes, I'd be concerned. I think we are seeing similar issues in ussuri, so I expect we'll investigate14:41
mgoddardkplant: in the mean time, add a couple of weekly reminders to your calendar :)14:42
kplant:-(14:42
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add log for cron script fernet-rotate.sh  https://review.opendev.org/75608314:42
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM]: Keystone fernet rotation testing  https://review.opendev.org/75843414:42
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM]: Keystone fernet rotation testing  https://review.opendev.org/75843414:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Delete the /var/log/kolla directory should use sudo  https://review.opendev.org/75806514:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Performance: optimize genconfig  https://review.opendev.org/75780914:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: replace internal with openstack_interface  https://review.opendev.org/75806815:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: replace internal with openstack_interface  https://review.opendev.org/75806915:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix glance-tls-proxy logrotate and fluentd log permissions  https://review.opendev.org/75806715:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Delete the /var/log/kolla directory should use sudo  https://review.opendev.org/75806615:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Delete the /var/log/kolla directory should use sudo  https://review.opendev.org/75806415:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Add trove-guestagent.conf  https://review.opendev.org/74731915:10
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yoctozeptomgoddard, mnasiadka: will we be postponing victoria due to fernet?15:30
mgoddardlooks that way15:30
yoctozeptoAck15:30
mgoddardalthough it did previously rotate, so maybe we can revert as a last resort15:31
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix --limit with commas  https://review.opendev.org/75845916:08
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SvenKieskeHi there! I was wondering if someone in here knows the ins and outs of configuring rabbitmq via kolla-ansible? I just posted my question to the openstack-discussion ML, but figured I might get help here quicker?17:04
SvenKieskeFor reference, the questions are here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-October/018014.html17:05
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dmsimardjust wondering if I'm maybe just not looking in the right place -- is there no implementation of "nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows" in kolla-ansible out of the box ?18:52
openstackgerritAlbert Braden proposed openstack/kolla master: Closes bug 1897948  https://review.opendev.org/75848619:18
openstackbug 1897948 in kolla-ansible "Incorrect setting for --incremental-history-name in kolla/docker/mariadb/backup.sh" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189794819:18
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