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| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: implement automatic deploy of octavia https://review.opendev.org/740180 | 03:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add missing barbican.conf support https://review.opendev.org/752900 | 05:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add healthchecks option to kolla_docker https://review.opendev.org/743958 | 05:24 |
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| Fl1nt | Hi everyone! | 06:50 |
| yoctozepto | hi Fl1nt | 06:52 |
| yoctozepto | morning channel | 06:52 |
| Fl1nt | Morning @yoctozepto | 06:53 |
| oklhost | morning @all | 06:53 |
| Fl1nt | Morning channel ^^ | 06:53 |
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| Fl1nt | qq: We don't set any prometheus password except for the exporter DB ? | 07:13 |
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| bjolo | morning | 07:27 |
| mnasiadka | morning | 07:29 |
| Fl1nt | morning! | 07:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Lin PeiWen proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for GlusterFS NFS Manila backend https://review.opendev.org/746384 | 07:33 |
| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, When we add a new role within kolla-ansible, do we add it opiniated for kolla project usage or do we want to implement it the way it's defined by the project itself? (Config ref/etc)? | 07:36 |
| Fl1nt | because for instance | 07:36 |
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| Fl1nt | gnocchi project even if having some sane default variable hardcoded that allow for a keystone auth and endpoint automatic discovery and connection, does explicitly declare the auth type and creds in order for a standalone installation | 07:37 |
| Fl1nt | to work fine too | 07:38 |
| Fl1nt | Exemple, gnocchi provide a default user and endpoint type for seamless config/authentication when relying on keystone. But it explicitly declare them too within the gnocchi.conf as it can be a standalone install not relying on keystone and so users can have chosen to use a different user name or endpoint type. | 07:40 |
| Fl1nt | Cloudkitty by calling the keystone_authtoken section with an implicit admin user is so able to connect to it seamlessly. | 07:41 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: remember that any config option can be set via config overrides | 07:42 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: so normally our policy is to provide a sensible default configuration | 07:42 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: then allow customisation through overrides | 07:42 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: there are always exceptions | 07:42 |
| Fl1nt | so for cloudkitty for instance, we're fine if we do explicitly declare all "explicitly implemented" config directive right? | 07:43 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: in particular, where we already have the necessary information, for example it may make sense to define multiple variables based on the value of a flag | 07:43 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: could you give an example? | 07:44 |
| Fl1nt | yes | 07:44 |
| Fl1nt | within cloudkitty official documentation, they explicitly set the following storage and collector configuration: https://docs.openstack.org/cloudkitty/latest/admin/configuration/collector.html & https://docs.openstack.org/cloudkitty/latest/admin/configuration/storage.html | 07:45 |
| Fl1nt | so as you mentioned it on my change, the gnocchi collector section is already working fine without explicitly setting them as we use the admin user within the keystone_auth section (we should use the cloudkitty one I think). | 07:46 |
| Fl1nt | whoops | 07:46 |
| Fl1nt | sorry | 07:46 |
| Fl1nt | we don't use admin, we already use cloudkitty | 07:46 |
| openstackgerrit | wu.shiming proposed openstack/kayobe master: Bump hacking min version to 3.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/753242 | 07:46 |
| Fl1nt | Do we give cloudkitty user the admin role within for the service project ? That would explain why you don't need to use the gnocchi credentials to get it working. | 07:48 |
| bjolo | is stable/train broken? was runing 9.1.0 and upgraded to train latest and a lot of things broke. new init scripts for keystone for ex. ./ansible/roles/keystone/templates/keystone-startup.sh.j2 | 07:49 |
| mgoddard | bjolo: not that we're aware of. | 07:55 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: yes, cloudkitty user has the admin role | 07:56 |
| bjolo | need to look around so i did not make an ooups | 07:57 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: did we backport the followup to fernet fixes to train? | 07:57 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: I believe so | 07:57 |
| mnasiadka | bjolo: would be nice if you could share what broke, so we can think what's the issue :) | 07:58 |
| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, ok, thanks a lot. | 08:01 |
| Fl1nt | @bjolo, I did the same upgrade a couple days ago and it went fine. | 08:02 |
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| Fl1nt | @bjolo, are you sure you actually used the train 9.2.0 ? There is nothing like keystone-startup.sh.j2 within that tag. | 08:04 |
| Fl1nt | oh, wait, you used the stable/train branch instead of a tag right? | 08:04 |
| bjolo | yes, between 9.2.0 and train latest keystone-startup.sh was introduced. | 08:06 |
| Fl1nt | Yeah, hence why I never use branches, they're "guarantee" to work as named stable, but my experience is. Changes can occurs in between deployment that make your whole plateform either instable as not using the same settings/files etc or have some weird behavior. | 08:07 |
| Fl1nt | I rather prefer to rely on tags as they're immutable and guarantee to be equals from my staging environment to the production env. | 08:08 |
| Fl1nt | so if it works on staging it will in prod | 08:08 |
| Fl1nt | Branches can't guarantee that. | 08:09 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, for reproducibility one should use stable commit ids | 08:09 |
| bjolo | the upgrade errored out on haproxy, since that did not come backup up, but list of containers that does not work are nova_scheduler, haproxy, keystone | 08:09 |
| yoctozepto | for humans it usually means using tags | 08:09 |
| Fl1nt | TBN: It doesn't happens often but yet ^^ | 08:09 |
| bjolo | i do for prod, this is in the lab :) | 08:09 |
| Fl1nt | oh ok so no rush ^^ | 08:10 |
| hrw | hm. infra changes went to gate. | 08:10 |
| hrw | morning | 08:10 |
| Fl1nt | morning @hrw | 08:10 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: yup, at least those that are green | 08:10 |
| bjolo | normally i would not "report" minor errors on branch latest, but introducing a new startup scripts seems like a merge gone wrong | 08:10 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: we need to give some thought for those sad CI runs | 08:10 |
| Fl1nt | @bjolo, you can redeploy the platform if required, it will normally restart everything stale. | 08:11 |
| yoctozepto | but it's good to get the machinery in | 08:11 |
| yoctozepto | we came to that conclusion with mgoddard during our last kall | 08:11 |
| Fl1nt | the new startup script is just taking care of fernet tokens | 08:11 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: using @ in irc feels oh so wrong | 08:11 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: that CI one is disaster in a need of serious rethinking | 08:11 |
| Fl1nt | yoctozepto, aaarrrgh good old habit of Discord/Teams/Slack you name it :p | 08:12 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: mhm, it seems we can't really let it build all in one patch | 08:12 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: s/good/bad/ | 08:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix container_proxy usage https://review.opendev.org/753246 | 08:12 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: but understood ;p | 08:12 |
| Fl1nt | ah ah ah ^^ | 08:12 |
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| Fl1nt | bjolo, if your containers didn't started up properly, you may have a volume/image cache stale issue | 08:13 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: now we need to get k-a to work with --infra-rename enabled | 08:14 |
| Fl1nt | gosh I feel so disturbed switching over all those communication channels all the time ^^ None of them use the same shortcuts and way to highlight ^^ | 08:14 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: yeah, that's yet another story :-( | 08:14 |
| bjolo | Fl1nt: yes, i thought we did not do changes like that on an old branch. Introducing change of behavior used to be reseverved for major releases | 08:14 |
| Fl1nt | bjolo, this one is more like a major patch required for when fernets goes nasty... unfortunately it can happens as fernets even if lightweight and efficients introduced the requirement of a working fine sync mechanism. | 08:15 |
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| mgoddard | bjolo: it is a bug fix. It wasn't expected to have any negative effects, and is limited to kolla-ansible so doesn't need to sync up with kolla | 08:26 |
| mgoddard | if there's an issue with it then we can address it | 08:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Introduce 'kolla_infra_install_type' variable https://review.opendev.org/706982 | 08:41 |
| hrw | now we can make CI job which builds kolla images with --infra-rename and then k-a uses those images by setting kolla_infra_install_type to infra | 08:42 |
| hrw | I just do not know which project should get such | 08:42 |
| hrw | probably k-a with depends-on kolla | 08:43 |
| hrw | but k-a way of building images needs to be in sync with kolla probably | 08:43 |
| mgoddard | hrw: h-a needs a flag | 08:44 |
| mgoddard | hrw: then kolla sets the flag for k-a jobs | 08:44 |
| mgoddard | then when new images are published we change the flag in k-a | 08:44 |
| hrw | moment. | 08:49 |
| hrw | now we have binary/source images built and published. once my two kolla patches land we still have binary/source | 08:49 |
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| hrw | I would prefer to get binary/source/infra images with CI job which checks is k-a ready for it | 08:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: create 'add_binary_source_envs' macro and use it https://review.opendev.org/752928 | 08:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow setting container_proxy per service https://review.opendev.org/753246 | 08:55 |
| mgoddard | hrw: yes. you can do that if you have a zuul flag in k-a to use infra images | 08:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Create 'infra' type of images https://review.opendev.org/698753 | 08:59 |
| hrw | ok. so https://review.opendev.org/706982 needs to go | 09:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: [WIP] add centos8 images for source+infra CI job https://review.opendev.org/753260 | 09:02 |
| ug_egon | Does some kind of management command for nova-conductor exist to recreate the rabbitmq channels? | 09:03 |
| hrw | like this one job | 09:03 |
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| mgoddard | hrw: actually that is not what I was thinking, but it might be a simpler approach | 09:06 |
| mgoddard | hrw: still, we need some way of building a consistent set of images in CI | 09:07 |
| mgoddard | hrw: with that approach they will not share layers, so it will have the opposite effect of what we want | 09:07 |
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| mgoddard | hrw: the main problem that needs to be solved is the kolla-build-centos8 job. Either split it up with dependencies between jobs, or make it pass | 09:09 |
| hrw | mgoddard: this job is test not for serious merge | 09:12 |
| mgoddard | hrw: ok | 09:13 |
| mgoddard | hrw: still, I think we need to focus on the build job problem if we are going to merge | 09:13 |
| hrw | mgoddard: are job dependencies granted to run on same machine? | 09:13 |
| mgoddard | hrw: different machines I think. We would need to push images somewhere | 09:14 |
| mgoddard | or at least the base image | 09:14 |
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| hrw | kolla-build-centos8-{base,binary,source,infra} | 09:15 |
| mgoddard | hrw: yes | 09:15 |
| hrw | it works for publishing jobs but what about non-publishing ones? | 09:16 |
| mgoddard | hrw: for non-publishing jobs we could initially rebuild base every time | 09:16 |
| hrw | we do not want to have kolla/centos8-source-nova-base:master-review-784342-11-recheck-3 | 09:16 |
| mgoddard | hrw: well | 09:17 |
| mgoddard | if we can use the infra docker registry, maybe it doesn't matter | 09:17 |
| hrw | in theory base should be the same each time if same repos used | 09:17 |
| mgoddard | (ping yoctozepto) | 09:17 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: reading | 09:18 |
| hrw | mgoddard: and then we need kolla-build-centos8-cleanup job which will remove images after whole set was built and tested | 09:18 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, hrw: infra allows us to share a local registry between jobs | 09:18 |
| yoctozepto | so we could theoretically create a job dependency graph | 09:19 |
| yoctozepto | one job builds the base | 09:19 |
| mgoddard | that's what we need | 09:19 |
| hrw | kolla-build-centos8-{base,binary,source,infra,cleanup} | 09:19 |
| yoctozepto | the others build the rest | 09:19 |
| yoctozepto | what's cleanup for? ;d | 09:19 |
| hrw | or even kolla-build-centos8-{base,binary,source,infra,k-a,cleanup} | 09:19 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: we build few thousand images daily | 09:19 |
| yoctozepto | true, we could run promotion after k-a runs | 09:19 |
| yoctozepto | the registry would be ephemeral | 09:20 |
| yoctozepto | we publish once a day | 09:20 |
| yoctozepto | to the public, permanent registry | 09:20 |
| hrw | I talk about normal jobs. not publishing ones | 09:21 |
| yoctozepto | and I say the registry would be ephemeral | 09:22 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: ok. I run recheck on 789089. kolla-build-centos8-base starts and needs working registry. which creates it? | 09:23 |
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| yoctozepto | hrw: https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul-jobs/docker-image.html | 09:24 |
| yoctozepto | really need to re-ask infra how to use it | 09:25 |
| hrw | k | 09:25 |
| yoctozepto | I see my old notes are at the bottom of https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | 09:26 |
| hrw | then would be nice to have registry and dependent jobs to be run in same infra/cloud | 09:27 |
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| hrw | -ENOCOFFEE | 09:28 |
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| mgoddard | looks like we should be able to use that | 09:33 |
| yoctozepto | we should indeed | 09:34 |
| yoctozepto | it was already researched initially but abandoned due to time constraints | 09:35 |
| mgoddard | it would be a good thing for us to do | 09:39 |
| mgoddard | it will take a significant effort to do it for victoria though | 09:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix default mode in haproxy_single_service_split https://review.opendev.org/753276 | 10:00 |
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| hrw | INFO:kolla.common.utils.base:Successfully tagged kolla/centos-infra-base:10.1.0 | 10:39 |
| hrw | INFO:kolla.common.utils.cron:Successfully tagged kolla/centos-infra-cron:10.1.0 | 10:39 |
| hrw | INFO:kolla.common.utils.cyborg-agent:Successfully tagged kolla/centos-source-cyborg-agent:10.1.0 | 10:39 |
| hrw | so it works on CI just fine | 10:39 |
| mgoddard | hrw: what works? | 10:44 |
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| hrw | mgoddard: source-infra job | 10:44 |
| hrw | once https://review.opendev.org/#/c/706982/ gets merged I plan to check will it work | 10:45 |
| mgoddard | hrw: but if you add binary too it fails? | 10:45 |
| patchbot | patch 706982 - kolla-ansible - Introduce 'kolla_infra_install_type' variable - 12 patch sets | 10:45 |
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| hrw | mgoddard: should work | 10:45 |
| hrw | mgoddard: but does not fit in 3h | 10:46 |
| mgoddard | hrw: I doubt that is the problem. ubuntu takes 30 minutes. If you look at logs, the node sends no logs for ~2 hours | 10:46 |
| mgoddard | so could be something locks up, or maybe the disk is full | 10:47 |
| hrw | lovely | 10:47 |
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| mgoddard | it's probably not an impossible problem to solve, just needs some debugging | 10:49 |
| mgoddard | if disk space is the problem, we could delete images | 10:49 |
| mgoddard | not for publishing though | 10:50 |
| hrw | so we need to add steps which check disk space before and after | 10:54 |
| hrw | and if it is missing then ask infra for more | 10:54 |
| hrw | or split into tree as we discussed | 10:54 |
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| mgoddard | hrw: long term, splitting jobs is the right approach IMO. If we want to push for Victoria then a single job might be the fastest approach | 11:11 |
| hrw | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/706982/ passed zuul. please review | 11:11 |
| patchbot | patch 706982 - kolla-ansible - Introduce 'kolla_infra_install_type' variable - 12 patch sets | 11:11 |
| hrw | mgoddard: we have feature freeze really soon now. | 11:12 |
| mgoddard | hrw: yes | 11:12 |
| hrw | mgoddard: so infra slips to W | 11:12 |
| hrw | mgoddard: we have basic parts merged and real enablement in W - sound good? | 11:12 |
| mgoddard | hrw: with enough effort it could be done in V. But without it will slip to W | 11:13 |
| hrw | mgoddard: we start asking infra team to do this/that/otherthat and they say 'we have a pile of feature freeze related stuff' | 11:14 |
| hrw | anyway - review k-a patch ;D | 11:14 |
| hrw | mgoddard: thanks | 11:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add variables for API VIP address and FQDN https://review.opendev.org/753289 | 11:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Introduce 'kolla_infra_install_type' variable https://review.opendev.org/706982 | 11:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add healthchecks option to kolla_docker https://review.opendev.org/743958 | 11:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 11:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Krzysztof Klimonda proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Create stable document ids when pushing logs to elasticsearch https://review.opendev.org/753291 | 11:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Krzysztof Klimonda proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Expose fluentd's request_timeout for elasticseach output https://review.opendev.org/753292 | 11:34 |
| hrw | now should cover all | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Bump hacking min version to 3.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/753242 | 12:01 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: hi, can I identify all containers that are not openstack-services ? for example nova-libvirt ? from code ? | 12:25 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: hi! not easily but they should not be children of openstack-base | 12:47 |
| yoctozepto | they are usually named project-service but inheriting from base rather than project-base | 12:48 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: well, i want to determine which containers I can mark logging_conf_support: true/false | 12:48 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: best default to assuming it's false - no need to set it everywhere else then | 12:49 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: tanks | 12:55 |
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| kevko | yoctozepto: around ? | 13:41 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: when policy file is copying in designate-backend-bin9 ..there is no mechanism to not copy policy file to backend-bind9 container .. this should be fixed also , right ? | 13:42 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: yes, the described behaviour sounds incorrect to me | 13:44 |
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| kevko | yoctozepto: i'm just curious ..why in ./ansible/roles/nova-cell/templates/nova-conductor.json.j2 is not policy file defined | 14:23 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: because it does not use policy | 14:23 |
| kevko | even if | 14:23 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: yes..sorry ..i got it right after i asked :D | 14:23 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: no problem | 14:24 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: today i'll push new patchset for custom logging .. I hope | 14:24 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: cool, looking forward to it | 14:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Change the default haproxy template to split variant https://review.opendev.org/753369 | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add ``with_frontend`` and ``with_backend`` https://review.opendev.org/753380 | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for with_frontend and with_backend https://review.opendev.org/753380 | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Reduce the use of SQLAlchemy connection pooling https://review.opendev.org/749632 | 15:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Reduce the use of SQLAlchemy connection pooling https://review.opendev.org/749632 | 15:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Performance: Parallelise Kolla Ansible host vars generation https://review.opendev.org/745354 | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Performance: avoid set_fact in Kolla Ansible host vars https://review.opendev.org/745569 | 16:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix common role when using external mariadb https://review.opendev.org/749463 | 16:33 |
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| born2bake | Hi guys, quick question - if I have only 1 net.interface available on machine.. can I use it as compute/storage node? | 16:58 |
| priteau | Sure, you can still use separate networks if you can use VLAN tagging | 17:00 |
| born2bake | nah, dont have manageable switch to configure it either. so it means I can have vms and volumes and that machine but all networking (vxlan, floating ip's etc) will be done from my control/network nodes? | 17:01 |
| priteau | well, the compute node does one half of the vxlan encapsulation | 17:03 |
| priteau | That just means your tunnel network will be shared with other network, like internal api | 17:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix typo and capitalisation in help message https://review.opendev.org/753441 | 19:59 |
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