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r3ap3rQuick question. I'm looking at the external ceph configuration for Kolla-Ansible and I am wondering if I set the keyring ownership to their respective services while they are on the Kolla "deployment host" before running the `bootstrap/deploy` or do I wait until afterwards and make sure the ownership is right after the deployment? Part of me says the latter is dumb because there would be no storage at deployment00:50
r3ap3rtime and it would error out. Then again, if I change the ownership before I `bootstrap/deploy` I'm wondering it Kolla-Ansible will be able to use the keyrings due to no user/group ownership of the files?00:50
r3ap3rI'm guessing chmod could handle that problem but I'm not sure what would be "safe" permissions to set for Ceph keyrings? The docs don't appear to point to anything definitive in that regard?00:53
r3ap3rI mean the Ceph docs located here: https://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/  ^01:00
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mnasiadkar3ap3r: safe is putting the ceph keyrings in an encrypted form (ansible-vault), not putting them on the filesystem in unencrypted form :)06:27
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: CentOS 8: CI: Test CentOS 7 to 8 migration  https://review.opendev.org/71160107:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: add region name for tasks  https://review.opendev.org/74791808:38
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mgoddardif anyone wants a large but trivial review: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739109/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739811/10:43
patchbotpatch 739109 - kolla-ansible - Performance: replace unconditional include_tasks w... - 5 patch sets10:43
patchbotpatch 739811 - kolla-ansible - Performance: use import_tasks for register and boo... - 3 patch sets10:43
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kayobe master: Move dnf.yml earlier in host configure workflow  https://review.opendev.org/74816110:59
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: keystone fernet follow up follow up  https://review.opendev.org/74615311:05
mnasiadkamgoddard: trivial or not, is it a trivialfix or it does require a release note? :)11:09
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r3ap3rmnasiadka: understood and I'm working my way there. Babysteps. So would I set the Glance keyring ownership `glance:glance` on the deployer host/ansible vault?11:40
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mgoddardmnasiadka: it should be a noop in terms of functionality12:02
mgoddardso didn't add a reno12:02
mnasiadkamgoddard: I think we should improve reno guidelines in docs12:02
mgoddardmnasiadka: feel free12:02
mnasiadkaOnce I will get out of deployment bunker - sure12:03
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Fl1ntGood afternoon everyone!12:06
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mgoddardhi Fl1nt12:15
Fl1ntwhat's up @mgoddard? did you took some vacation?12:15
mgoddardFl1nt: I had a few days off last week12:15
mgoddardotherwise still around12:16
Fl1ntcool, I hope it was relaxing ^^12:16
mgoddardyes, mostly :)12:16
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Fl1ntNice ^^12:18
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r3ap3rmnasiadka: looks like I have to revisit my Ansible Vault notes. ;)12:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe master: Remove XenAPI integration  https://review.opendev.org/74697112:45
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Fl1nt@mgoddard, I'm redacting a "wish list" for the kolla project that sum up pitfalls that we've faced and some suggestions to solve them, I've already integrated some suggestion already made by some folks of the community such as the image build system discussion.12:50
Fl1ntWhich channel do you prefer to discuss that document? mailing list? irc?12:50
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mgoddardFl1nt: mailing list might be good12:53
Fl1ntok, noticed thanks12:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Drop option http-tunnel for neutron-server  https://review.opendev.org/74763713:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix tz handling for newly introduced services  https://review.opendev.org/74679113:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update conf for magnum  https://review.opendev.org/74438713:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use iSCSI multipath for libvirt  https://review.opendev.org/70091013:57
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: keystone fernet follow up follow up  https://review.opendev.org/74615313:58
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: keystone fernet follow up follow up  https://review.opendev.org/74615313:58
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dcapone2004I recently upgraded and restarted a kolla ansible dev cluster and I am running into some rabbitmq issues....after some digging it appears that the configuration in rabbitmq changed somehow and the naming of the rabbitmq is out of sync... I am trying to determine if this was an intentional change in a new release of KA or if something else happened14:28
dcapone2004that threw things out of sync14:28
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dcapone2004essentially rabbitmq is now appending .localdomain to to my hostnames when testing if rabbitmq services are up....this of course results in a non-existent domain error....if I update the hosts file in the container to be able to resolve hostname.localdomain, rabbitmq is now able to resolve and I instead get an error about the configuration hostname14:30
dcapone2004mismatch14:30
dcapone2004output of rabbitmqctl -l status from inside the rabbitmq container14:32
dcapone2004attempted to contact: ['rabbit@dlhl1-hypcos01.localdomain']14:33
dcapone2004"rabbit@dlhl1-hypcos01" believes its node name is not "rabbit@dlhl1-hypcos01" but something else.14:33
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mgoddardmgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak14:55
mgoddard^ meeting in 5 minutes14:55
mgoddard#startmeeting kolla15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 26 15:00:15 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'15:00
mgoddard#topic rollcall15:00
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mgoddard\o15:00
Wasaaco/15:00
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mgoddardmgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak15:03
dougsz\o15:03
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mgoddard#topic agenda15:05
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mgoddard* Roll-call15:05
mgoddard* Announcements15:05
mgoddard** Kolla feature freeze fast approaching: Sep 28 - Oct 0215:05
mgoddard* Review action items from the last meeting15:05
mgoddard* CI status15:05
mgoddard* Mundane priorities: need to enact kolla-cli deprecation15:05
mgoddard** https://review.opendev.org/730431 -> https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/repository.html#deprecating-a-repository15:05
patchbotpatch 730431 - project-config - Retire kolla-cli project - step 1 end project gating - 2 patch sets15:05
mgoddard* Victoria release planning (kayobe)15:05
mgoddard* Victoria release planning (kolla ansible)15:05
mgoddard* Victoria release planning (kolla)15:05
mgoddard#topic announcements15:05
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mgoddardKolla feature freeze fast approaching: Sep 28 - Oct 0215:06
mgoddard#info https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728448/15:06
patchbotpatch 728448 - kolla-ansible - Support TLS encryption of RabbitMQ client-server t... - 8 patch sets15:06
mgoddard#undo15:06
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #info https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728448/15:06
mgoddard#info Kolla feature freeze fast approaching: Sep 28 - Oct 0215:06
mgoddardAny others?15:07
mgoddard#topic Review action items from the last meeting15:08
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mgoddardmgoddard to message openstack-discuss about focal & victoria upgrade15:08
mgoddardThis is getting silly now15:08
mgoddard#action mgoddard to message openstack-discuss about focal & victoria upgrade15:08
mgoddard#topic CI status15:08
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mgoddardok, how are we looking?15:09
mgoddardkolla train & earlier not happy15:10
mgoddardI did start looking at the bifrost issue but didn't finish15:10
mgoddardthe ironic conductor issue looks similar15:10
mgoddard#action mgoddard to investigate bifrost CI issue on train15:11
mgoddardI have a feeling the ironic issue is a similar root cause15:11
mgoddardpossibly ansible related15:11
mgoddardkolla ansible looks green15:12
mgoddardkayobe is better now15:12
mgoddard#topic Mundane priorities: need to enact kolla-cli deprecation15:13
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mgoddardyoctozepto: this sounds like one of yours15:14
yoctozeptoyes15:14
yoctozeptohttps://review.opendev.org/730431 -> https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/repository.html#deprecating-a-repository15:14
patchbotpatch 730431 - project-config - Retire kolla-cli project - step 1 end project gating - 2 patch sets15:14
mgoddardso we need to announce to the mailing list?15:14
yoctozeptowe should follow the deprecation procedure and drop kolla-cli master branch15:14
yoctozeptowe already have a deprecation notice15:15
yoctozeptoneed to move with patchsets15:15
mgoddardok. who wants to do this?15:16
mgoddard#action mgoddard to continue kolla-cli deprecation15:18
wuchunyangretire kolla-cli ？15:19
mgoddardyes15:20
mgoddardwell deprecate first15:20
wuchunyangmaybe i can help15:20
mgoddardok, thanks15:21
mgoddard#topic Victoria release planning (kayobe)15:22
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mgoddardjovial[m] dougsz mnasiadka bbezak  Wasaac15:22
mgoddardI went through the V features on the whiteboard15:23
mgoddard#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard15:23
mgoddardL35515:23
dougszthx15:23
mgoddardlet's say kayobe has not made much progress on its priorities this cycle :)15:23
mgoddardwe have 1 month until feature freeze15:24
dougszyeah, other time pressures unfortunately15:24
jovial[m]luckily ussuri was a great release ;-)15:24
mgoddardindeed, ussuri was good15:24
mgoddardI think we should definitely do the documented config walk though15:24
Wasaac+115:25
dougszOthers like bikolla are pushing it15:25
mgoddardmultiple environments would be nice, if priteau (or anyone) gets time15:25
mgoddardbut I think docs are a must15:25
mgoddardso plan of action15:25
mgoddardI think we should get a few heads together to work out how best to do it15:26
mgoddardperhaps in the kolla klub meeting slot tomorrow (15:00 UTC)15:26
mgoddardwho is interested?15:26
WasaacHappy to help15:27
dougszI have a meeting clash tomorrow15:27
mnasiadkaI'll try to join Kolla Klub for the first time :)15:27
mgoddardI think bbezak expressed an interest15:27
mgoddardmnasiadka: no actual kolla klub this time15:27
mnasiadkamgoddard: damn15:27
mgoddardsummer break15:28
mnasiadkamgoddard: but yes, Bartosz expressed interest, so I think he'll be tehre15:28
mnasiadka*there15:28
mgoddardok15:28
mgoddarddougsz: are you keen to join? If so I can send out a doodle15:28
bbezakSure15:28
mgoddardI guess priteau is busy with dougsz tomrrow15:29
mgoddardnot that I wanted this to become a committee meeting :)15:29
mgoddardbut it would be good to agree on a direction before setting off15:29
mgoddardI'll send a doodle to the mailing list15:30
dougszI have quite a large existing backlog so I can't commit to much apart from reviewing - feel free to host the meeting tomorrow15:30
mgoddardok15:30
mgoddardwe have some open reviews, if anyone has time: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/kayobe+status:open15:31
mgoddardany other kayobe things?15:32
dougsznothing from me15:33
mgoddard#topic Victoria release planning (kolla ansible)15:33
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mgoddardok15:33
mgoddardagain, I have added my best guess at status updates to the whiteboard for our V prioritie15:34
mgoddardfeel free to update them15:34
mgoddardhttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard15:34
mgoddardL25015:34
mgoddardlet's go through15:35
mgoddardlets encrypt15:35
mgoddardneeds some reviews15:35
mgoddardI did a quick skim earlier but not enough15:35
mgoddardseems like there is a bit of a bootstrapping question about how to initially deploy haproxy15:36
headphoneJamesalso, where should cert bot run? anisble controller or openstack deploy15:36
mgoddardnext to haproxy?15:37
mgoddardansible controller should be assumed to be ephermal15:37
mgoddardephemeral15:37
headphoneJamescan cert bot retrieve the same certificate across many nodes?15:37
mgoddardcould you expand?15:38
headphoneJameshow we do get the initial certificate and distribute to all the nodes? Once we want to refresh an expired certificate, how does happen across all the nodes at the same time?15:40
headphoneJamesor maybe I don't understand the problem correctly15:40
mgoddardthese are good questions15:42
mgoddardto which I don't know the answer right now15:42
headphoneJameswould it be worth have a separate meeting about this?15:42
mgoddardyou could look at how OSA does it15:43
mgoddardhttps://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/user/security/ssl-certificates.html#letsencrypt-certificates15:43
mgoddardhttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server15:43
mgoddardwe could have a meeting. I think the main obstacle is that I don't know enough about it to be too helpful15:44
mgoddardI will try to spend some time brushing up on it15:46
mgoddardperhaps others are more familiar15:46
mgoddardhave you spoken to diurnalist about it?15:46
mgoddardheadphoneJames:15:46
mgoddardok, I think we need to move on15:48
mgoddardwuchunyang: around?15:48
wuchunyang?15:48
mgoddardhi15:48
mgoddardlooks like good progress with octavia, and you had some good feedback from johnsom15:48
wuchunyang:-)15:48
mgoddardI will put it in my browser tab queue15:48
wuchunyang i don't get some new feedback now15:49
mgoddardat this point in the release, I think we need to focus on features that already have good progress, and octavia is a good example15:49
johnsomLet me know if there are patches you would like me to look at. I did an initial pass, but haven't kept up with updates.15:50
mgoddardthanks johnsom o15:50
mgoddardlooks like no progress on designate15:50
mgoddardfederated keystone has made good progress, let's try to land it15:51
wuchunyangjohnsom i have updated ps follow up  your comments thanks15:51
mgoddardhttps://review.opendev.org/69543215:51
patchbotpatch 695432 - kolla-ansible - Add support to OpenID Connect Authentication flow - 31 patch sets15:51
mgoddardcontainer health checks needs an update15:51
mgoddardAnsible handlers bug is blocked on whether ansible accepts the fix15:52
mgoddardLots of patches up for performance & scalability.15:52
mgoddard#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/performance-improvements15:52
mgoddardreviews appreciated15:52
mgoddardironic TLS backend needs an update to fix ubuntu15:52
mgoddardrabbitMQ TLS needs reviews https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728448/15:53
patchbotpatch 728448 - kolla-ansible - Support TLS encryption of RabbitMQ client-server t... - 8 patch sets15:53
mgoddardAnything else we should discuss for kolla ansible?15:53
mgoddardanything not on the priority list?15:53
mgoddard#topic Victoria release planning (kolla)15:54
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mgoddardlast one15:54
mgoddardhttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard15:54
mnasiadkaI think it would be good to follow up to doc updates we agreed on Kolla Kall15:54
mgoddardL20415:54
mgoddardmnasiadka: agreed15:55
mgoddardI think we need to organise the notes into a set of changes to be made, and each pick some up15:55
mgoddard#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kollakall15:56
headphoneJamesI might try to enable tls for neutron api15:56
headphoneJamesseems like one of the last core services without tls15:56
mgoddardheadphoneJames: ok. non-trivial as it needs the RPC worker splitting out15:56
headphoneJamescopy that15:56
mgoddardbut yes, that would I think complete the core set15:56
mgoddardmariadb TLS seems quite important also15:57
mgoddardanyone want to volunteer to organise the docs notes into a set of changes to be made?15:58
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mgoddardalternatively, just make some changes15:59
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mgoddardbut let's focus on useful improvements, given the backlog of code reviews15:59
mgoddardon kolla16:00
mgoddardwe have infra images16:00
mgoddardhttps://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/infra-images+(status:open+OR+status:merged)16:00
mgoddarda few patches to review16:00
mgoddardI think the main blocker is that the CI job is now non-voting for all16:01
mgoddardImage tiering not started16:02
mgoddardFocal complete (ish)16:02
mgoddardStable branch life-cycle16:02
mgoddardhttps://review.opendev.org/73890616:02
patchbotpatch 738906 - kolla - version-check: handle using of stable branch tarballs - 3 patch sets16:02
mgoddardlet's try to get that merged soon16:02
mgoddardwe're over time16:04
mgoddardthanks everyone16:04
mgoddardnot the most interactive meeting16:04
headphoneJames<><><>16:04
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mgoddardbut the summary is, please help to review existing priority patches16:04
mgoddardas the freeze will be here soon16:05
mgoddard#endmeeting16:05
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mnasiadkaack, thanks for meeting - got to run :)16:05
mgoddardheadphoneJames: realistically, I would focus either on letsencrypt or neutron16:05
mgoddardheadphoneJames: I don't see us landing both16:05
headphoneJamesyup16:06
mgoddardwithout deprioritising other things16:06
headphoneJamesmy guess is neutron is lower hanging fruit16:06
mgoddardfewer unknowns, for sure16:06
mgoddardmaybe I'm underestimating the last minute crunch :)16:07
mgoddardbut people seem generally less available this cycle, which isn't too surprising16:07
headphoneJamesnothing like summer + pandemic + my state being on fire16:09
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla master: version-check: handle using of stable branch tarballs  https://review.opendev.org/73890616:09
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: keystone fernet follow up follow up  https://review.opendev.org/74615316:22
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openstackgerritJames Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support TLS encryption of RabbitMQ client-server traffic  https://review.opendev.org/72844818:10
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