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| openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DNM: enable TLS for all jobs pt 2 https://review.opendev.org/736088 | 05:21 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: morning, could we get this in? https://review.opendev.org/723342 | 08:20 |
| patchbot | patch 723342 - kolla-ansible - Coordinate haproxy and keepalived restarts - 8 patch sets | 08:20 |
| yoctozepto | I have 1 core +2 and 2 cores +1 | 08:20 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I don't like the ignore_missing parameter in kolla_docker, if I would force myself to like it - then I don't like it's default value | 08:21 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: why? it keeps the current behaviour | 08:23 |
| yoctozepto | now it makes it possible to ignore this | 08:23 |
| yoctozepto | the default is False so backwards-compatible | 08:24 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: so the logic from the beginning was broken ;) | 08:24 |
| yoctozepto | well, Christian would disagree | 08:24 |
| yoctozepto | anyhow, this is the expected minimal impact | 08:25 |
| yoctozepto | and the change itself works quite nice, making those bumps nicer on services | 08:25 |
| yoctozepto | so that they learn the connection is dropped | 08:25 |
| yoctozepto | most of the time at least | 08:25 |
| yoctozepto | still better than roughly never atm | 08:25 |
| hrw | morning | 08:25 |
| hrw | looks like osmanlicilegi is on holidays | 08:26 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, no ping responses | 08:26 |
| yoctozepto | morning hrw | 08:26 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: 8 days idle ;D | 08:26 |
| yoctozepto | idling hard | 08:27 |
| hrw | happy sysadmin day everyone | 08:27 |
| yoctozepto | yay! thanks! | 08:28 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: will look later, after downstream | 08:37 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: sure, thanks | 08:38 |
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| wuchunyang | hi , could any help review my octavia patch? | 08:43 |
| wuchunyang | hi , could someone help review my octavia patch? | 08:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: CI: Add the KVM jobs https://review.opendev.org/741509 | 09:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Remove TODO in libvirt script https://review.opendev.org/741510 | 09:06 |
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| jbalciunas | hey :) what about workflow for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739193/ | 09:23 |
| patchbot | patch 739193 - kolla-ansible - prometheus-openstack-exporter config service filte... - 4 patch sets | 09:23 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I <3 the crowned koala :D | 09:53 |
| mgoddard | :) | 09:54 |
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| hrw | someone fancy looking at infra changes? | 10:13 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: the bifrost slide is missing explanation for the asterisk near 'minimal' | 10:13 |
| hrw | basic one adds everything and does not change image builds by default | 10:13 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: also, was not rabbitmq dropped from bifrost? | 10:13 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: scheduled for today | 10:14 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: you are right, should probably be "minimal" | 10:14 |
| mgoddard | and yes, no rmq | 10:14 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: recycling slides :) | 10:14 |
| mgoddard | good for the environment | 10:14 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: 1st patch adds infra handling and --infra-rename switch (off by default), 2nd enables infra rename by default, 3rd adds infra install type to allow to build only infra images | 10:15 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: haha, thought so; but I like them so raising any issues I see so that they can get even better :-) | 10:15 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: appreciated | 10:15 |
| hrw | 3rd adds --infra switch to build binary+infra or source+infra images at once (infra+infra is possible too) | 10:15 |
| hrw | no release notes in any of patches as first I want to have something which works and is acceptable | 10:16 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I see you made Stallman happy in there | 10:16 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: I did? | 10:16 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: well, except for talking about the clouds, fortunately these are private :-) | 10:17 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: yup, by including the GNU logo with Linux | 10:17 |
| mgoddard | ah, yes | 10:17 |
| yoctozepto | because, you know, it's never just Linux | 10:17 |
| yoctozepto | it's GNU/Linux | 10:17 |
| yoctozepto | and it is exactly gnu on that penguin | 10:18 |
| hrw | not always | 10:18 |
| yoctozepto | true that | 10:18 |
| yoctozepto | but in most cases | 10:18 |
| yoctozepto | :D | 10:18 |
| hrw | there are Linux distros without GNU | 10:18 |
| hrw | and I do not mean android ;D | 10:18 |
| yoctozepto | but then they include bsd systems | 10:18 |
| yoctozepto | and similar | 10:18 |
| yoctozepto | raw linux is hard to use | 10:19 |
| hrw | no. musl as C lib + busybox etc | 10:19 |
| yoctozepto | ah, yeah, busybox is gpl but not gnu project, true that | 10:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Add a way to disable build summary https://review.opendev.org/739732 | 10:19 |
| hrw | and you can use clang to build | 10:20 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: added reno as requested | 10:20 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: you make Richard cry :-( | 10:20 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: I do not care much about rms | 10:20 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: https://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2014/09/09/i-am-starting-to-dislike-gnu-project/ | 10:21 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: could use mentioning veth interfaces | 10:21 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: also user bootstrapping overlaps with user accounts I guess | 10:22 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: in name, yes | 10:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: ubuntu: move to 20.04 Focal https://review.opendev.org/743502 | 10:36 |
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| hrw | mgoddard: added check for >= 20.04 | 10:36 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I did not get the primary difference then! | 10:41 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: but really great presentation out there | 10:42 |
| yoctozepto | I enjoyed it even though I kinda knew the answers already, hehe | 10:42 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: bootstrapping is for kayobe & kolla users. Other is for arbitrary users | 10:43 |
| mgoddard | thanks | 10:43 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: yeah, but it's basically the same functionality, no? :-) | 10:43 |
| yoctozepto | I mean, both are unix users, nothing magical with either, except for their usage | 10:44 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: sort of. we have to use a bootstrap user account to setup the kayobe user | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Run Monasca Tempest in CI https://review.opendev.org/743164 | 10:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Configure Monasca Grafana user roles https://review.opendev.org/667671 | 10:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Register Elasticsearch in Keystone https://review.opendev.org/744121 | 10:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Test Swift upgrades https://review.opendev.org/722798 | 10:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: prometheus-openstack-exporter config service filtering https://review.opendev.org/739193 | 10:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Performance: optimize genconfig https://review.opendev.org/743961 | 12:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix Masakari role missing deploy-containers https://review.opendev.org/743973 | 13:25 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/70844 hit this today; we really need to deprecate ansible at some point... ;D | 13:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix Masakari role missing deploy-containers https://review.opendev.org/744169 | 13:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix Masakari role missing deploy-containers https://review.opendev.org/744170 | 13:39 |
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| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: come on, they closed it 8 days ago ;) | 13:45 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: not released yet :-) | 13:45 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: and affects two releases in row | 13:45 |
| mnasiadka | sorry, opened 8 days ago | 13:45 |
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| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: so pin to earlier? :) | 13:56 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: well, it's not breaking but frustrating to lose idempotency | 14:02 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: frustration might be breaking :) | 14:02 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: mental breaking | 14:06 |
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| nikparasyr | dougsz: can you check https://review.opendev.org/#/c/743578/. made the modifications/improvements. ty | 14:11 |
| patchbot | patch 743578 - kolla-ansible - Enable glance role to copy extra configuration - 7 patch sets | 14:11 |
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| oyrogerg | Hi again all. I'm looking for info on comparing Kolla Ansible with OpenStack Ansible, to help inform deciding which one to pursue for replacing our OpenStack control plane. I've looked at docs, attended and now reviewed Maciej's and Maciej's fine Denver talk, and chatted briefly with Stig. Can anyone point me to any discussions or dscriptions of a comparison of the two? | 14:54 |
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| oyrogerg | I'll head offline now, and check back over the weekend. TIA! | 15:04 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: oyrogerg might like your OSA vs KA thoughts | 15:23 |
| yoctozepto | oyrogerg: as for me, I haven't written down a comparison per se but the config approach of KA appealed to me much more (very little indirection - simple merging of overrides vs ansible-controlled config) | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | also docker >> lxc | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | (k-a has docker) | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | as for the current state - we have already released ussuri with working centos8 base | 15:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [WIP] Fix looped notifies and optimize further https://review.opendev.org/744207 | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: ^ please consider reviewing even though it's incomplete, get yourself acquainted with the commit message :-) | 15:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [WIP] Fix looped notifies and optimize further https://review.opendev.org/744207 | 16:02 |
| yoctozepto | just pushed extra thoughts | 16:02 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: I was thinking of pushing the config check logic inside kolla_docker | 16:31 |
| mgoddard | would be more performant than unrolling the loop | 16:31 |
| mgoddard | i suppose that doesn't cover the case where config has changed on disk but container has not | 16:32 |
| mgoddard | actually wait, if we put the config check inside check_container it works | 16:33 |
| mgoddard | sorry, compare_container | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla master: masakari: Add crm_mon to masakarimonitors sudoers https://review.opendev.org/744225 | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add support for custom Masakari configuration https://review.opendev.org/744228 | 16:57 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: still need to unroll or indirect (like here with include) to avoid ansible quirk; I mentioned the optimization in message - if we make compare_container try config comparison by itself we save one task | 17:07 |
| yoctozepto | which could be a nice win | 17:08 |
| yoctozepto | anyhow, having it refactored makes it no-brainer to optimize further | 17:08 |
| yoctozepto | just let me know if this is fine for you and I will proceed with other services | 17:08 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: the handlers would need to also do the config check | 18:07 |
| mgoddard | unrolling is a killer for performance | 18:07 |
| mgoddard | having just spent a lot of time removing includes I'd rather not add some more :) | 18:08 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard: for example, neutron/nova with lots of containers - one looped task becomes one looped task plus 2N tasks | 18:16 |
| mgoddard | on every compute host | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: masakari: support host monitor https://review.opendev.org/744235 | 18:19 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: ^ you may be interested | 18:21 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: replied there | 18:43 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: ps: you promised to review haproxy+keepalived, I hope you do it early next week :-) | 18:53 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: I did. It's in my browser tab queue | 19:24 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: splendid! :D | 19:39 |
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