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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix hacking min version to 3.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/727502 | 00:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/kolla-cli master: Fix hacking min version to 3.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/727503 | 00:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhouHeng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: dpdk-vswitchd: some ovs tools require ovs daemons pidfiles https://review.opendev.org/727624 | 03:19 |
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| bjolo_ | morning | 05:41 |
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| yoctozepto | r3ap3r: sounds like a bug to me (elastic) | 06:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting Barbican API https://review.opendev.org/726258 | 07:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Barbican scenario https://review.opendev.org/719037 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Barbican scenario https://review.opendev.org/719037 | 08:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Barbican scenario https://review.opendev.org/719037 | 08:01 |
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| hrw | morning | 09:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/train: Use ensure-docker role instead of install-docker https://review.opendev.org/727684 | 09:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/stein: Use ensure-docker role instead of install-docker https://review.opendev.org/727686 | 09:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/rocky: Use ensure-docker role instead of install-docker https://review.opendev.org/727687 | 09:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting Barbican API https://review.opendev.org/726258 | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Will Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add support for encrypted block devices https://review.opendev.org/720040 | 09:55 |
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| Fl1nt | Hoowdy everyone!! | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Custom haproxy script for monitoring galera https://review.opendev.org/710213 | 10:05 |
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| r3ap3r | yoctozepto: morning, I will submit one when I get to the office for elastic. Thanks. | 11:51 |
| yoctozepto | headphoneJames: hi, around? are you working on tls for neutron? | 11:54 |
| yoctozepto | r3ap3r: thanks | 11:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add support for encrypted block devices https://review.opendev.org/720040 | 12:45 |
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| r3ap3r | yoctozepto: sorry took me a little while, I try to be thorough and end up quadruple checking myself to make sure I have things right and accurate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1878412 | 12:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1878412 in kolla-ansible "CentOS 8 Failure of Restart elasticsearch container" [Undecided,New] | 12:54 |
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| yoctozepto | r3ap3r: thanks; testing quadruple is actually desired :-) | 13:35 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: community meeting clashes with Kolla meeting, I guess it's postponed? | 13:35 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: just noticed it's one hour later, still can't figure out timezones :D | 13:42 |
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| hrw | ;D | 13:43 |
| hrw | Debian binary builds again. packages got fixed | 13:44 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: re community - go with more complete tls story | 13:48 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: currently only neutron lacking but I guess we can squeeze that one in too | 13:49 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: (as far as core core is concerned that is :-) ) | 13:49 |
| r3ap3r | yoctozepto: ;-D | 13:56 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: you do remember you are presenting, right? :D | 14:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add extend_lists option to merge_yaml https://review.opendev.org/685671 | 14:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support customizing prometheus.cfg files https://review.opendev.org/686205 | 14:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add extras directory to prometheus config https://review.opendev.org/688374 | 14:31 |
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| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 13 15:00:27 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:00 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:00 |
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| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:01 |
| hrw | ~o | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi | 15:02 |
| headphoneJames | o/ | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:03 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** OpenStack Ussuri released! https://www.openstack.org/software/ussuri | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from last meeting | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * CI status | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Ussuri release planning (kayobe) | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Kolla Klub https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| mgoddard | #info OpenStack Ussuri released! (but not kolla yet...) | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | Kolla is a cycle-trailing project, so we now enter the time of confusion where Ussuri is released but Kolla is not | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #link https://www.openstack.org/software/ussuri | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | congrats headphoneJames on making the front page ^ | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | (via backend TLS) | 15:05 |
| headphoneJames | team effort ;) | 15:05 |
| mnasiadka | o/ | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #topic Review action items from last meeting | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:06 | |
| hrw | I hope that this time we will release sooner than later ;D | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | None | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:07 | |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix hacking min version to 3.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/727502 | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | Ah yeah | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | #info Ansible 2.9.8 breaks kolla-ansible master branch | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | #info Ansible 2.9.9 released! | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | #link https://pypi.org/project/ansible/2.9.9/ | 15:08 |
| hrw | nice | 15:08 |
| hrw | with fix? | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | yes | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | My second ansible bug & fix to trigger a day 2 release :) | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | seems kolla-ansible is a better test of ansible than ansible's CI | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | ok CI | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: nice :-) | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | kolla & kolla-ansible lookin' green | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Fix hacking min version to 3.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/727501 | 15:10 |
| wuchunyang | kolla-ansible is a test project for ansible. :-) | 15:10 |
| yoctozepto | we are doing more ansible than ansible does ansible :-) | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-cli master: Fix hacking min version to 3.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/727503 | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | kayobe CI got hit by a zuul role name rename | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | backports in progress | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | #topic Ussuri release planning (kayobe) | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ussuri release planning (kayobe) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:12 | |
| mgoddard | priteau | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | https://tiny.cc/kayobe-review-dashboard2 | 15:14 |
| priteau | o/ | 15:14 |
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| jovial[m1 | hi all | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | hi | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | quite a few backports open | 15:15 |
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| jovial[m1 | Any chance of getting mnasiadka's custom seed containers into ussuri? | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | Looks like I need to refresh the c8 docs patch | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | That depends on mnasiadka :) | 15:16 |
| priteau | I went over open patches recently and reviewed almost all of the ready ones | 15:16 |
| jovial[m1 | I've started using it in places you see :D | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | jovial[m1: I'll work on it today - specially for you ;) | 15:16 |
| priteau | I would like to see the seed container support too :) | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | high demand feature | 15:17 |
| jovial[m1 | thanks mnasiadka - It seemed to work well in my testing - very useful feature | 15:17 |
| priteau | Quick question: should we keep the six removal patch for just before branching, like the rest of py2 removal? | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m1: I can't see LUKS. Did it land? | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | priteau: +1 | 15:17 |
| jovial[m1 | my fix didn't work :( | 15:17 |
| priteau | LUKS doesn't pass CI | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | hmm | 15:18 |
| priteau | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720040/ | 15:18 |
| patchbot | patch 720040 - kayobe - Add support for encrypted block devices - 11 patch sets | 15:18 |
| jovial[m1 | I have to investigate what we are missing in the generic cloud image | 15:18 |
| jovial[m1 | works as expected in vagrant | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | misses criteria to make the dashboard | 15:18 |
| priteau | "Could not find the requested service systemd-cryptsetup@loopback-crypt.service: host" | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m1: I'd suggest pointing requirements.yml to a branch of the role and iterating rather than releasing and hoping for the best :) | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | or (better) test locally. sausage has cloud images | 15:20 |
| jovial[m1 | good call - I was just so sure I squelched it :) | 15:20 |
| priteau | mgoddard: The reason I haven't approved "Constraint python-openstackclient install with requirements.txt" backport is because we discussed fixing it differently in master, by using a different venv | 15:21 |
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| mgoddard | ok | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m1: what about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/724818/ ? | 15:22 |
| patchbot | patch 724818 - kayobe - Add ability to run playbooks before and after a ka... - 7 patch sets | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | will it land? | 15:22 |
| jovial[m1 | I noticed the six patch conflicts with the centos 8 support one - which one should we merge first? | 15:23 |
| jovial[m1 | mgoddard: I put a note about it being experimental and subject to change in the README | 15:23 |
| jovial[m1 | does that give use clearance to merge and improve on it later? | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | ok. looks like it needs another review | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | on my list | 15:25 |
| priteau | I haven't looked at hooks patch yet, I was excluding patches that didn't pass CI | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | only docs fail | 15:25 |
| priteau | I've just seen that it's only docs failure | 15:25 |
| priteau | I can review it probably only on Friday | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | I'll mark some patches with RP+1 | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | I think we need another push | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | Anything else for Kayobe? | 15:27 |
| priteau | Not from me | 15:28 |
| priteau | Except this patches that presumably fix CI on stable branches: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/727684/ | 15:28 |
| patchbot | patch 727684 - kayobe (stable/train) - Use ensure-docker role instead of install-docker - 1 patch set | 15:28 |
| priteau | s/this/these/ | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | yes, approvals for those please | 15:29 |
| priteau | We haven't run any CI job on stable branches recently but I expect it is broken | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | #topic Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:29 | |
| mgoddard | I suppose we ought to start working through the release process | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | #link https://docs.openstack.org/kolla/latest/contributor/release-management.html | 15:31 |
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| mgoddard | e.g. switch to released tarballs | 15:31 |
| mgoddard | Does anyone want to pick that up? | 15:32 |
| hrw | mgoddard: before or after branching? | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | hrw: before | 15:32 |
| hrw | will prepare patch | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | all in the doc above :) | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | #action hrw to switch source tarballs to ussuri final releases | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | What do we have as FFEs? | 15:34 |
| mgoddard | Backend TLS? | 15:34 |
| headphoneJames | hopefully :) | 15:34 |
| hrw | we may consider drop of gnocchi btw | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | may we? | 15:35 |
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| mgoddard | I think our ceilometer users may be a bit annoyed | 15:35 |
| hrw | last release July 2019 | 15:35 |
| priteau | AFAIK it still works fine | 15:35 |
| Fl1nt | \o hi | 15:36 |
| hrw | and nearly no trace of activity | 15:36 |
| Fl1nt | sorry was in a job meeting | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | hi Fl1nt | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | I think we can keep gnocchi and reconsider if it starts breaking on us | 15:36 |
| Fl1nt | ceilometer may benefit from it but it can use another backend | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | not in an existing cloud | 15:37 |
| hrw | will write comments to tarballs patch | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:38 |
| priteau | It's possible to use Monasca as Ceilometer backend now, but that's still fairly new. I don't see why Gnocchi should be dropped as long as it is the recommended backend for Ceilometer. | 15:38 |
| Fl1nt | yep definitely, that's not because there are no activity that it means it doesn't work anymore | 15:39 |
| priteau | At the very least, deprecate it in one release and drop it only in the next one | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | let's see how it evolves. There still seem to be people interested in using it. Maybe they will also maintain it | 15:39 |
| Fl1nt | interesting (old but relevant) article from Julien that would explain a lot: https://julien.danjou.info/lessons-from-openstack-telemetry-deflation/ seems like people are transitioning from ceilo to prometheus etc | 15:41 |
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| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: no wonder as all telemetry components seem to be low-activity | 15:41 |
| yoctozepto | a bit sad though | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | At this point in the release people should be switching to testing the new release and fixing bugs | 15:42 |
| Fl1nt | yep, Julien explain it pretty well on its article and especially why | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | still, maybe this aspect is better handled at more general level | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | fixing bugs is indeed what is on my radar :-) | 15:42 |
| Fl1nt | I'm on sync with you @priteau and @mgoddard we should keep it for compatibility until it really break something. | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | Do we have anything else to discuss for Ussuri? | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: ++ | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: rather not, maybe only tls | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | are we getting tls for neutron? :D | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | it seems it's the major lacking component | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | it doesn't have apache | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: ah, so it counts as pitb | 15:45 |
| headphoneJames | I can take a look shortly | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | yes | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | headphoneJames: I would prefer to focus on finishing what we have | 15:45 |
| yoctozepto | headphoneJames: thanks, don't sweat it though | 15:45 |
| yoctozepto | indeed ^^ | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | i.e. https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tls_tasks | 15:45 |
| hrw | ~curse rally | 15:45 |
| Fl1nt | @hrw, why? It work pretty well. | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | would the world end if we used native neutron-server & TLS? | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/configuration/neutron.html | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | certfile/keyfile | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | could always switch to apache later, but would be a simple change to complete the core set | 15:47 |
| Fl1nt | what do you mean by native neutron server? | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | at the moment we use the python web server | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | no httpd | 15:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Switch to Ussuri release tarballs https://review.opendev.org/727810 | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | not sure which library it uses under the hood | 15:48 |
| Fl1nt | oh ok | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | anyways, it's not top of the list | 15:48 |
| headphoneJames | I added it to the bottom | 15:49 |
| Fl1nt | As for the docker philosophy, I would use neutron-server native as it's already a wsgi app | 15:49 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: rally or rally-openstack? ;D | 15:49 |
| Fl1nt | rally and rally-openstack | 15:49 |
| Fl1nt | adding another process within the container would make it a good candidate for PODs rather than docker actually | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: we use httpd for many of our APIs | 15:50 |
| Fl1nt | even if I know that there are many containers already usign httpd ^^ | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | better performance & reliability | 15:50 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: rally does not use openstack/releases at all | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | #topic Kolla Klub https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig | 15:51 |
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| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, yeah, and that's actually the best way to decide, does it add value by improving performance and stability? Then it's OK ^^ | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EwQs2GXF-EvJZamEx9vQAOSDB5tCjsDCJyHQN5_4_Sw/edit# | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | We have no topic for the next meeting | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | (21st May) | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | What should we discuss? | 15:52 |
| Fl1nt | I've had a quick side chat | 15:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Switch to Ussuri release tarballs https://review.opendev.org/727810 | 15:52 |
| Fl1nt | with an attendee of the last meeting | 15:52 |
| Fl1nt | and it seems folks are interested by how is kolla/kolla-ansible/kayobe team can actually simplify code contribution as it's an easier step to climb. | 15:53 |
| Fl1nt | like | 15:53 |
| Fl1nt | they asked a lot about something like a clean and easily discoverable onboarding page. | 15:54 |
| Fl1nt | and of course, communication channels | 15:54 |
| mgoddard | we have a community goal this cycle to improve the contributor page | 15:54 |
| mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/707800 | 15:55 |
| patchbot | patch 707800 - kolla - [community goal]: Add contributor and PTL guide - 2 patch sets | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | Reviews appreciated | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | Also, the first topic proposed for kolla klub is 'project onboarding' | 15:55 |
| Fl1nt | yep, I think that the process is pretty straight forward if you carefully read all openstack related documentation, but it yet lack a lot of discoverability | 15:56 |
| Fl1nt | and the fact that the way to contribute to openstack projects differs a lot from any other GIT hosted projects is kind of a pain point for them. | 15:56 |
| Fl1nt | "a lot" | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | we can't change that | 15:56 |
| Fl1nt | yep I know ^^ | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | we can improve our docs and discoverability though | 15:57 |
| Fl1nt | it's not that difficult honestly and maybe that entry level kind of filter a lot of bad things too. | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | if you have ideas, please propose or draft up | 15:57 |
| Fl1nt | yep | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | (after reviewing the proposed patch, since that is what the future looks like) | 15:57 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: I would be glad if somebody could take the burden of improving contributor and PTL guide :) | 15:58 |
| mnasiadka | (from my hands) | 15:58 |
| Fl1nt | I'll have a look at that doc topic as I'll have to write a bunch of. | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | I think often though the problem is 'I simply don't know where to start or what to search for' | 15:58 |
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| Fl1nt | yep, that what I call discoverability | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | Yes, what I am saying is that if you don't know what to ask for, I don't know how to help :) | 15:59 |
| hrw | I think that starting with 'I have a problem with service XY' is good way | 15:59 |
| Fl1nt | but that point is coming from two factors too, 1 is the openstack doc site being a pain of UI/UX and Search engine such as google still referencing really old docs as first answers. | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | yes, SEO is a problem. It was discussed on ML recently | 16:00 |
| yoctozepto | it is discussed again and again | 16:00 |
| hrw | and will be | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | we're out of time | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | Shall I propose an onboarding session for the klub next week? | 16:01 |
| Fl1nt | yep, that would be cool actually | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | ok | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | I have slides. Anyone want to help present? | 16:01 |
| yoctozepto | I can | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | thanks | 16:02 |
| yoctozepto | I did onboard | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard and yoctozepto to sync up on onboarding for kolla klub | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | I'll send an email with the topic | 16:02 |
| yoctozepto | ok | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | That's all folks | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Please feel welcome to join Kolla SIG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig | Kolla IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - see agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 13 16:02:59 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-05-13-15.00.html | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-05-13-15.00.txt | 16:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-05-13-15.00.log.html | 16:03 |
| Fl1nt | My main concern with Klub is that it feels people are waiting something but can't vocalize what exactly | 16:03 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: what do you mean? | 16:04 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/11gGW93Xu7DQo_G1LiRDm6thfB5gNLm39SHuKcgSW8FQ/edit?usp=sharing | 16:04 |
| Fl1nt | I think, many people subscribed to the etherpad as they're waiting something for the kolla contributors (presentations/roadmap/interactivity) but without thinking about what they can actually ask or bring etc. | 16:05 |
| Fl1nt | I don't know how to express that | 16:06 |
| Fl1nt | from not for | 16:06 |
| Fl1nt | like, I'd like to hear from attendees about what are their most day to day issues etc. | 16:07 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: I expect you're right | 16:08 |
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| mgoddard | But a lot of these people don't have a lot of time for upstream, and I wanted to create something they could participate in without too much time. If we ask everyone to contribute it becomes a drag | 16:09 |
| Fl1nt | I'll try to think about few topics that could bring a more open discussion. | 16:09 |
| Fl1nt | like | 16:09 |
| Fl1nt | Did you guys explore new features faster thanks to kolla? Did you tested OVN/Geneve things? etc <- example | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | But also, I'm hoping that by getting some of these presentation sessions done we can keep interest up and build up a community. Maybe then they will feel involved enough to contribute | 16:10 |
| Fl1nt | yep | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | All good ideas. Please add to the doc | 16:10 |
| Fl1nt | within the etherpad or the google doc? | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | Google doc | 16:10 |
| Fl1nt | ok | 16:10 |
| Fl1nt | Like, here is a relevant exemple | 16:11 |
| Fl1nt | last time I presented, it was cool, I had few questions, even some coming from you | 16:11 |
| Fl1nt | but it ended up by having more questions outside of the meeting, from people on IRC or reddit | 16:11 |
| mgoddard | that's ok | 16:12 |
| mgoddard | maybe you could follow up on those at the start of the next meeting? | 16:12 |
| Fl1nt | that's a good idea, I'll try to compulse a list of topics asked. | 16:13 |
| mgoddard | cool. I'll add to the agenda | 16:13 |
| mgoddard | sometimes people don't like to ask questions, or think of the question too late | 16:13 |
| Fl1nt | yep, that's why I'm trying to find a way to trigger a more natural and open discussion than having someone presenting and then other listening. | 16:14 |
| mgoddard | there are a few topics like that | 16:15 |
| mgoddard | * operator feedback | 16:15 |
| mgoddard | open discussion on openstack/storage/monitoring/other | 16:15 |
| mgoddard | downstream fork amnesty | 16:15 |
| Fl1nt | Those questions should trigger more discussion you're right, I've just opened and see the meeting plan, seems good actually | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: thanks; I would appreciate getting edit caps on that presentation as well | 16:19 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: I'll clone it and open up | 16:19 |
| Fl1nt | Just to let you know @mgoddard I've just cloned the k-a repository and started to work on all these rocky fix that I collected, I'll start small with CEPH external keyring issue for nova and then see the bigger one after that | 16:20 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: cool | 16:21 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: excellent :) | 16:21 |
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| mgoddard | Fl1nt: bear in mind that changes must first go to master (where applicable) then backport after merge | 16:22 |
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| Fl1nt | Ok, how do I manage patches that have already been made on master but not yet backported to stable/rocky for instance? | 16:23 |
| Fl1nt | someone actually fixed the ceph thing on master | 16:23 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: top right in gerrit - download button - cherry pick | 16:24 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YyRbp-UW9EXTtG9_sTaRov13X6V8FjCztj9c0EkT754/ | 16:24 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: this presentation has too many slides. I am thinking we split into two | 16:24 |
| Fl1nt | ok, I'll gonna have a look | 16:24 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: this session we cover how to contribute, gerrit, lp, etc | 16:24 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: agreed, let's create another copy, apply different names, share both and we can clean it | 16:24 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: separately we do the source code orientation | 16:25 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I'm thinking also about more hands-on, showing this on screen | 16:25 |
| mgoddard | +1 | 16:25 |
| Fl1nt | hum... actually it's fixed because radoslaw made a lot of rework on ceph-external and extracted the role, with rocky the role is still spread among different services. | 16:25 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: really I think the Help section at the end is what I'm looking for this time | 16:26 |
| Fl1nt | @yoctozepto, +10 Hands on and "live lab" sessions would be really cool | 16:26 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: hah, yeah, need to start with this :-) | 16:27 |
| mgoddard | ok, down to 14 slides | 16:28 |
| mgoddard | signing off now | 16:28 |
| Fl1nt | ok, so I'll need to take this task: https://opendev.org/openstack/kolla-ansible/src/branch/master/ansible/roles/nova-cell/tasks/external_ceph.yml#L49 and make it in here: https://opendev.org/openstack/kolla-ansible/src/branch/stable/rocky/ansible/roles/nova/tasks/external_ceph.yml#L29 | 16:29 |
| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, bye! have a nice evening. | 16:29 |
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