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| openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting backend HAProxy traffic https://review.opendev.org/664516 | 00:27 |
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| watersj | how do you reset /rebuild your rabbitmq cluster? | 01:11 |
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| cosmicsound | watersj , you can always reconfigure kolla | 03:13 |
| cosmicsound | that will reconfigure your rabbitmq | 03:14 |
| cosmicsound | or you could check with docker ps where it runs and remove it manually and redeploy | 03:14 |
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| osmanlicilegi | morning | 06:55 |
| yoctozepto | morning | 06:55 |
| osmanlicilegi | how's going folks? | 06:56 |
| osmanlicilegi | if you ask me, I'll say I've missed kolla :] | 06:56 |
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| osmanlicilegi | for the last few weeks I'm spending all of my time for the new datacenter drama | 06:57 |
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| mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: so you’re not bored, right?:) | 07:22 |
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| osmanlicilegi | sri_: if you compare kolla and tripleo, what would be your concerns about choosing tripleo over kolla. | 07:52 |
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| sri_ | osmanlicilegi, I can't say much i am thinking about using tripleo just because of I've been using it for longer, there is lot of power failures in your datacenter is tripleo always comes up without any issues. I've never had change test k-a ansible on that level | 07:57 |
| osmanlicilegi | good point, power failues which I had several times for the last few months. I can clearly say the problematic part was often mariadb cluster and ceph. | 08:00 |
| sri_ | "pcs status" "pcs resource cleanup" is lifesaver | 08:01 |
| osmanlicilegi | I was lucky k-a has mariadb_recovery and it always saved my life | 08:02 |
| osmanlicilegi | also, thanks yoctozepto for making mariadb deployment better than ever | 08:02 |
| sri_ | osmanlicilegi, yes i've also used mariadb recovery in my lab it's always works | 08:02 |
| sri_ | also lot of enterprise customers like some kind of technical support something like rhosp | 08:07 |
| osmanlicilegi | we prefer spending the money for servers :] | 08:12 |
| sri_ | :) | 08:15 |
| osmanlicilegi | either way, openstack is good. doesn't matter how you manage it... | 08:18 |
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| sri_ | true that | 08:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: CI: Add linuxbridge jobs https://review.opendev.org/708318 | 08:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Remove dbus from bindep and playbooks https://review.opendev.org/708082 | 08:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Stop using deprecated stores and default_store in glance https://review.opendev.org/708114 | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow setting additional galera WSREP options https://review.opendev.org/707817 | 09:00 |
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| cosmicsound | good day | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yongjun Bai proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting glance/heat api https://review.opendev.org/707131 | 09:26 |
| yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi: praise is always welcome! | 09:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Deprecate deployment of MongoDB https://review.opendev.org/708508 | 09:30 |
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| AjiArya | Hello guys, I'm having issue with deploying k8s cluster with magnum and octavia has anyone deployed it properly? I'm using kolla-ansible multinode | 09:40 |
| AjiArya | Has anyone deployed magnum and octavia and runs properly? | 09:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow setting additional galera WSREP options https://review.opendev.org/707817 | 09:42 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: any idea how https://review.opendev.org/#/c/623976/ was updated with no history entry? | 09:46 |
| patchbot | patch 623976 - kolla-ansible - Convert '-' to '_' in ansible facts for interface ... - 6 patch sets | 09:46 |
| yoctozepto | AjiArya: the fact is I don't remember anyone praising our magnum nor octavia deployment so it might be faily atm | 09:47 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: better ask infra - I have no clue :) | 09:47 |
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| AjiArya | Ok Thanks for the kind answer, appreciate it. | 09:51 |
| AjiArya | What is the channel of kolla-ansible infra, please? | 09:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow setting additional galera WSREP options https://review.opendev.org/707817 | 09:57 |
| mnasiadka | AjiArya: that was not regarding your topic - you might want to share on paste.openstack.org what are your errors - if we won't be able to help you - we'll direct you to #openstack-containers (Magnum dev team channel) | 09:57 |
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| yoctozepto | AjiArya, mnasiadka: yes, all kolla questions are handled here :-) | 10:01 |
| yoctozepto | AjiArya, mnasiadka: in the worst case we will ask you to file a bug on us | 10:01 |
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| AjiArya | This is the error log http://paste.openstack.org/show/789740/ | 10:05 |
| yoctozepto | AjiArya: well, odd, I did not expect that :D which release is this? (kolla-ansible, openstack) | 10:08 |
| yoctozepto | e.g. 9.0.1 + train | 10:08 |
| yoctozepto | or something else | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: CI: Add linuxbridge jobs https://review.opendev.org/708318 | 10:10 |
| AjiArya | I'm using the latest version | 10:11 |
| AjiArya | kolla-ansible 9.0.1 | 10:11 |
| AjiArya | + train | 10:11 |
| mnasiadka | AjiArya: which os distro? | 10:13 |
| AjiArya | CentOS | 10:13 |
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| mnasiadka | well, then it's all clear | 10:16 |
| AjiArya | We've working on it for a little while but haven't figured out the error | 10:16 |
| mnasiadka | -rw-r--r-- 1 magnum magnum 2749 Feb 19 07:08 keystone_auth_default_policy.sample | 10:16 |
| mnasiadka | in the image | 10:16 |
| mnasiadka | AjiArya: it's kolla-ansible bug - can please file one in bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible ? | 10:16 |
| AjiArya | Is there anyway I can fix it? | 10:18 |
| AjiArya | Ok Will be filed | 10:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Will Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Make docker registry volume configurable https://review.opendev.org/708607 | 10:19 |
| mnasiadka | AjiArya: well, one this is that you're missing the /etc/magnum/keysdtone_auth_default_policy.json - this is not something you can fix easily | 10:19 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: it's in etc this way? | 10:19 |
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| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: yes, RDO delivers a bloody .sample | 10:20 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: bah lol | 10:20 |
| yoctozepto | AjiArya: CentOS binary or source? | 10:20 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: what about source? | 10:20 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: sorry, it's source - let me check binary | 10:20 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: haha, then no blooding on rdo ;p | 10:21 |
| AjiArya | I'm using source | 10:23 |
| brtknr | AjiArya: checkout https://github.com/RSE-Cambridge/cumulus-kayobe-config/blob/rocky/etc/kayobe/kolla/config/magnum/policy.json | 10:24 |
| brtknr | I am not sure if this is the solution | 10:24 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well, in binary even that file does not exist | 10:25 |
| mnasiadka | so maybe Magnum is able to cope with it | 10:25 |
| mnasiadka | seems the real issue is the 5th line in the paste - ssl certificate self signed | 10:25 |
| yoctozepto | brtknr: well, random hints help from time to time anyway :-) | 10:26 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: WARNING more important than ERROR? what world do we live in? | 10:27 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: ah, it's just openstack, phew | 10:27 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: that said, magnum bumps in my list of priority scenarios | 10:28 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: after we handle the neutron bajzel | 10:28 |
| mnasiadka | yeah, I love bajzel | 10:28 |
| mnasiadka | Ussuri cycle is for getting neutron working properly I see :D | 10:29 |
| AjiArya | I'll try brtknr | 10:29 |
| brtknr | AjiArya: sample keystone policy: https://seashells.io/v/FHVAknjH | 10:29 |
| brtknr | AjiArya: sample keystone policy: https://seashells.io/p/FHVAknjH | 10:30 |
| brtknr | this is if you want to use k8s cluster using keystone credentials | 10:30 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: you know that we also need to do octavia with magnum? :D | 10:30 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: one step at a time, one step :-) | 10:31 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: for getting neutron clean | 10:31 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: we both already cleaned it up a lot | 10:31 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: and it's getting ovn now | 10:31 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: and we know we might be dropping vmware/hyperv there | 10:31 |
| mnasiadka | yeah, I need to remember to remove networking-ovn installation when we dump centos7/train on master :) | 10:31 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: that said I don't remember if I acted on that thing to deprecate | 10:32 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: why remove? | 10:32 |
| yoctozepto | wdym? | 10:32 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I think you can for sure deprecate hyperv - the company behind OpenStack work on Hyper-V didn't respond to my mail :) | 10:32 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: networking-ovn has been moved to neutron base | 10:32 |
| mnasiadka | as an in-tree driver | 10:33 |
| mnasiadka | but since we use train in centos7 CI - it needs to stay there for a bit :) | 10:33 |
| mnasiadka | I mean in our Dockerfile definitions | 10:33 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: ah, this | 10:33 |
| mnasiadka | already on Ubuntu we have a bit of an issue, because we have the OVN driver in two places :) | 10:33 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: well, osmanlicilegi said he wants to play with hyperv | 10:33 |
| yoctozepto | or /me mistaken | 10:33 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: he doesn't really need that hyperv role in k-a | 10:34 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: and I doubt it even works | 10:34 |
| mnasiadka | I mean configuring the Windows side of things using k-a | 10:34 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I doubt it either | 10:34 |
| mnasiadka | and it's even better to do it your own way, instead of relying on something totally not tested | 10:35 |
| yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi: wdyt? ^ happy about deprec and removal for now? | 10:37 |
| osmanlicilegi | yoctozepto, mnasiadka: Alessandro Pilotti will join Open Infra Days Turkey and I will talk with him about supporting kolla. I will be clear then. | 10:37 |
| mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: so tell him to reply to my mail | 10:37 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: you remember what was about vmware? | 10:37 |
| osmanlicilegi | mnasiadka: I will :] | 10:37 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: it's the same guy? | 10:37 |
| osmanlicilegi | https://openinfradayturkey.com/speakers/alessandro-pilotti/ | 10:38 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: yeah, the guy I sent mail to - he's the CEO of CloudBase | 10:38 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: CEOs are usually busy ;-) | 10:39 |
| mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: btw, you wanted someone from Kolla to run some session on that OpenInfra Day? | 10:39 |
| osmanlicilegi | I'm not sure if I can handle hyperv part alone with myself. | 10:39 |
| osmanlicilegi | mnasiadka: tomorrow I'll have a meeting with the organizers and I will confirm what they want. | 10:39 |
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| yoctozepto | they want mnasiadka for sure | 10:40 |
| yoctozepto | dead or alive :D | 10:40 |
| yoctozepto | or not necessarily dead | 10:40 |
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| osmanlicilegi | I know some sponsors will not join because of the wuhan crisis and this can result as limitting technical sessions. | 10:40 |
| yoctozepto | I see | 10:41 |
| osmanlicilegi | If they decide to limite technical sessions, I'm planning to organize a community meetup for kolla | 10:42 |
| osmanlicilegi | out of infra days of course... | 10:42 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka, osmanlicilegi: I replied to myself on ml | 10:45 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka, osmanlicilegi: will propose deprec some time later | 10:45 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: replying to yourself is a bit funny, right? | 10:45 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: well, there was no other reply to reply to :-) | 10:46 |
| osmanlicilegi | yoctozepto loves himself :] | 10:46 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: feel free to deprecate, if there's no CI - it's really hard to claim that anything is working | 10:46 |
| yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi: it's not illegal | 10:46 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, I'm following cinder steps | 10:46 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: one cannot expect to maintain this in blind | 10:47 |
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| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: yup | 10:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Follow up on Ansible version checking https://review.opendev.org/705171 | 10:50 |
| AjiArya | Here's the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1863877 | 10:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1863877 in kolla-ansible "Magnum SSL Error" [Undecided,New] | 10:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: change tripleo centos-7 build containers to centos-8 https://review.opendev.org/708218 | 10:55 |
| yoctozepto | ^ woop | 10:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla stable/rocky: nova-libvirt: add UEFI packages to support UEFI instances https://review.opendev.org/706065 | 11:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla stable/train: CI: Replace cinder-lvm scenario with zun scenario https://review.opendev.org/706563 | 11:10 |
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| mnasiadka | ok, seems linuxbridge works | 11:15 |
| mnasiadka | I'll add depends-on on the /run neutron change - let's see if it doesn't break anything | 11:15 |
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| mnasiadka | but still I need to create a bridge and veth pair in CI, so we could ssh into the vms | 11:15 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, that's the next step | 11:21 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: anything bad in the logs? | 11:21 |
| yoctozepto | 2020-02-19 10:57:27.144 6 ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ip_lib [req-6900834a-6c89-4465-b174-b6f49db9d3a1 - - - - -] Device brqcd477d85-a2 cannot be used as it has no MAC address | 11:21 |
| yoctozepto | 2020-02-19 10:57:40.357 6 ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ip_lib [req-6900834a-6c89-4465-b174-b6f49db9d3a1 - - - - -] Device brq15c017b1-74 cannot be used as it has no MAC address | 11:21 |
| yoctozepto | 2020-02-19 10:57:24.796 6 ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ip_lib [req-8f9d9627-058e-42cf-a56a-6f161d23d1d0 - - - - -] Device ns-740b8018-95 cannot be used as it has no MAC address | 11:21 |
| yoctozepto | hmm, not promising xD | 11:21 |
| yoctozepto | looks like linuxbridge on ubuntu creates same error messages as dhcp agent | 11:22 |
| mnasiadka | well, I think those are some special ports, but why do they lack a mac address? that's at least weird | 11:22 |
| yoctozepto | "error" and "cannot be used" sound like "borky borky, fixy pleasy" | 11:23 |
| yoctozepto | though it's not happening on centos | 11:23 |
| yoctozepto | let's see there | 11:23 |
| yoctozepto | 2020-02-19 11:15:00.637 8 ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ip_lib [req-a68aea40-6a2c-4597-b17a-19884d6694ae - - - - -] Device ns-3013809e-3c cannot be used as it has no MAC address | 11:25 |
| yoctozepto | 2020-02-19 11:15:03.278 6 ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ip_lib [req-c49f623c-977e-4756-8c5d-e96fa29a4b81 - - - - -] Device brqdf3f666c-5b cannot be used as it has no MAC address | 11:25 |
| yoctozepto | 2020-02-19 11:15:17.634 6 ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ip_lib [req-c49f623c-977e-4756-8c5d-e96fa29a4b81 - - - - -] Device brq2c514673-9b cannot be used as it has no MAC address | 11:25 |
| yoctozepto | 2020-02-19 11:16:13.825 6 ERROR neutron.agent.linux.utils [req-c49f623c-977e-4756-8c5d-e96fa29a4b81 - - - - -] Exit code: 255; Stdin: ; Stdout: ; Stderr: Unknown argument: '--among-src'. | 11:25 |
| yoctozepto | 2020-02-19 11:21:11.911 6 ERROR nova.compute.manager [req-8755f595-53e0-40cc-9ef2-108075b2f6a2 86833bf449414ff0971b753c0c361be8 c415f21b52a14e6bbb7ef1814b0c17a4 - default default] [instance: b4557d6a-8fe5-4468-92ef-85f6ae79a30d] Instance failed to spawn: nova.exception.VirtualInterfaceCreateException: Virtual Interface creation failed | 11:25 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: not really worky ^ | 11:25 |
| mnasiadka | unknown argument - I love it | 11:25 |
| yoctozepto | and somehow it managed to squeeze out dhcp agent error on it, very nice | 11:25 |
| yoctozepto | notice it did not happen with ovs | 11:26 |
| yoctozepto | did it silently ignore us due to wrong mtu? | 11:26 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: it could be that c8 changed bridging utils enough to break it | 11:26 |
| yoctozepto | still, the dhcp case is very interesting | 11:27 |
| mnasiadka | ubuntu succeeded, centos8 failed, let's see if centos7 also fails | 11:28 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: indeed | 11:31 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I replied to your last comment, not agreed / confused | 11:32 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: passed | 11:33 |
| mnasiadka | so centos8 is special | 11:33 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah | 11:33 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: ubuntu breaks a little | 11:34 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: and c8 completely | 11:34 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: answer my comment and let's move on to vxlan refactoring and more thorough connectivity testing | 11:34 |
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| rlljorge | Hello there, I have multiples backends in Cinder, I created 2 types for set one as a default I put default_volume_type=Standard in cinder-volume.conf but not work, this is the correct way ? | 11:42 |
| yoctozepto | rlljorge: it does not work in what sense of not working? | 11:42 |
| yoctozepto | error message, data loss, no effect, nude fairies in terminal? | 11:43 |
| rlljorge | yoctozepto When I create a new volume without specify the volume-type the volume did not have a volume-type | 11:45 |
| yoctozepto | rlljorge: as in horizon? it does not read that file so it has no idea | 11:47 |
| yoctozepto | rlljorge: ah, I see you set it in cinder-volume, I believe cinder wants it set in api | 11:49 |
| yoctozepto | as it's api that decides | 11:49 |
| rlljorge | yoctozepto http://paste.openstack.org/show/789744/ | 11:50 |
| yoctozepto | rlljorge: yeah, I reflected above | 11:51 |
| yoctozepto | rlljorge: configure cinder-api with this param | 11:51 |
| yoctozepto | and then reconfigure | 11:51 |
| rlljorge | yoctozepto ok ! I will try now ! Thanks | 11:52 |
| paddyoniell | question about the development workflow for kolla-ansible, during installation I ran pip install inside the kolla-ansible repo directory, which installs the playbooks to /usr/local/share/kolla-ansible. If I make changes to ansible playbooks in the git repo do I need to rerun pip install to update the playbooks in /usr/local/share/kolla-ansible? | 11:55 |
| yoctozepto | paddyoniell: yeah, if you want to act on it this way | 11:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Yongjun Bai proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting glance/heat api https://review.opendev.org/707131 | 11:55 |
| yoctozepto | paddyoniell: it's more efficient to do an editable install (-e) and run from tools/kolla-ansible | 11:56 |
| yoctozepto | then you get both current code and playbooks :-) | 11:56 |
| paddyoniell | yoctozepto: thanks, will try the editable install, didn't know that was a thing. | 11:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Zhao proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Load known, standard kernel modules from the host, not within containers https://review.opendev.org/708628 | 11:59 |
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| watersj | is there any persistent data with in rabbitmq cluster? meaning if I destroyed the containers and redeployed rabbit cluster will start up properly again | 12:09 |
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| osmanlicilegi | watersj: it will work. maybe you will need to restart some services after the new rabbitmq deployment. | 12:17 |
| osmanlicilegi | watersj: the keypoint is just removing the containers is not enough for a fresh rabbitmq deployment. you also need to remove its volumes. | 12:17 |
| osmanlicilegi | watersj: docker stop rabbitmq && docker rm rabbitmq && docker volume rm rabbitmq | 12:18 |
| watersj | osmanlicilegi, thx. I had to repurpose one of my controllers and it magically was the master for rabbitmq. Of course i discovered this after the fact | 12:20 |
| watersj | then power outage | 12:20 |
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| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: the ebtables missing --amon-src seems to have a corresponding bug in redhat - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1720637 | 12:33 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1720637 in nftables "Ebtables don't have support for the among match" [Medium,Closed: duplicate] - Assigned to psutter | 12:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Add linuxbridge jobs https://review.opendev.org/708318 | 12:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow setting additional galera WSREP options https://review.opendev.org/707817 | 12:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Add linuxbridge jobs https://review.opendev.org/708318 | 12:57 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: I won't be available for the meeting later tonight, I haven't done anything with the centos8 backports to train, just rechecked some of them, will work on it today/tomorrow | 12:58 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: but mnasiadka did well on neutron stuff | 12:58 |
| yoctozepto | watersj: there is no "master" concept in rabbitmq | 12:59 |
| yoctozepto | all are created equal | 12:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Add linuxbridge jobs https://review.opendev.org/708318 | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Fine tune Galera gmcast.peer_timeout to 15 seconds https://review.opendev.org/707818 | 13:05 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: how is tripleo handling this regarding linuxbridge compat? | 13:13 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: could you test debian as well? | 13:17 |
| mnasiadka | I can do anything :) | 13:18 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: cool, lemme send you my todo and you can start right away | 13:19 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: yeah, right ;) | 13:20 |
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| rlljorge | folks, there any documetaion in kolla for complete setup for octavia ? | 13:21 |
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| yoctozepto | rlljorge: nope :-) | 13:29 |
| mgoddard | hi all | 13:33 |
| rlljorge | yoctozepto deploy octavia is a journey ... | 13:34 |
| yoctozepto | rlljorge: openstack is a journey, we write this poem every day :-) | 13:34 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: well, hello | 13:35 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: \o | 13:35 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 13:35 |
| mgoddard | looks like it's been busy | 13:35 |
| mgoddard | I won't read scrollback as I don't have all day, but is there anything worth sharing? | 13:35 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: ppl praising our work | 13:41 |
| mgoddard | I thank them for their praise on behalf of all kolla contributors | 13:41 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: with mnasiadka we are on better testing of networking | 13:41 |
| mgoddard | +1 for that | 13:42 |
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| jlfont | Hi! I have been tinkering recently with kolla-ansible and Monasca (stein). I am wondering if it is possible to just enable monasca-agent for an kolla-ansible controlled cluster, using an external stand-alone Monasca instance | 13:54 |
| mgoddard | dougsz: ^ | 13:54 |
| jlfont | I have seen that enabling monasca enables the whole stack of services | 13:54 |
| mgoddard | jlfont: dougsz will confirm, but I don't think that's possible currently. Seems like a reasonable request though | 13:55 |
| jlfont | mgoddard, thanks :-) | 13:56 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1863901 | 13:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1863901 in kolla-ansible ussuri "[Ussuri] Ceph recommendations break nova direct snapshot" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:57 |
| yoctozepto | that's what one gets following best practices | 13:57 |
| yoctozepto | bEsT pRaCtIcEs | 13:57 |
| jlfont | doing this with logging is kind of easy, cause fluentd is already there taking care of the logs, you only have to change its configuration to point to whatever monasca | 13:58 |
| dougsz | jlfont: Enabling just the monasca-agent in a Kolla deployment isn't currently supported, although you might be able to get it to work by removing the other Monasca services from the inventory. I expect what you really want is a flag, enable_monasca_agent. | 13:59 |
| jlfont | dougsz: yes, I was wondering if something like that was contemplated | 13:59 |
| jlfont | I will try as you suggest | 14:00 |
| dougsz | It seems like a reasonable thing to support to me. | 14:00 |
| dougsz | What we typically do is use an ansible role outside of Kolla to deploy it | 14:00 |
| dougsz | We use this: https://github.com/stackhpc/ansible-role-monasca-agent | 14:01 |
| dougsz | I expect you want logs as well? | 14:01 |
| dougsz | The Monasca Fluentd output config depends on the enable_monasca flag, but that could be changed, or you could use custom Fluentd config. | 14:01 |
| jlfont | dougsz: yes, initially I have been just hacking the fluentd conf for the logs | 14:02 |
| jlfont | with good results | 14:02 |
| dougsz | Good to hear :) | 14:02 |
| jlfont | we already have a OpenStack cloud running, and we want to create a separated Monasca cluster, just enabling monasca-agent, like we can do with fluent would be super convenient | 14:03 |
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| dougsz | Yeah - it makes sense, for one to get Monasca off the control plane HAProxy | 14:04 |
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| jlfont | thanks a lot guys, I will report how it went :-) | 14:05 |
| dougsz | Please do, thanks jlfont | 14:06 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: and it passed (linuxbridge) - so removal of that mount is good to go | 14:13 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: well, not quite, needs misc cleaning before approval | 14:14 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I have one more thing to check there as well | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: Remove useless neutron-linuxbridge-agent env vars https://review.opendev.org/708658 | 14:19 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: ^ | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Use latest release of StackHPC iDRAC role https://review.opendev.org/708347 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Improve Ansible version check error handling https://review.opendev.org/705261 | 14:47 |
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| mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi | 14:54 |
| mgoddard | meeting in 5 ^ | 14:54 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: makes sense | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Add linuxbridge jobs https://review.opendev.org/708318 | 14:57 |
| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 19 15:00:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:00 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:00 |
| cosmicsound | o/ | 15:00 |
| osmanlicilegi | o/ | 15:00 |
| dougsz | \o | 15:00 |
| osmanlicilegi | o/ | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:01 |
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| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| mgoddard | #undo | 15:02 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic announcements | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from last meeting | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | * CI status | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | * Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | * Ussuri release planning (kayobe) | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | ** XenAPI deprecated in Nova Train, removal pending | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | * Kolla SIG (aka Kolla Klub?) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| mgoddard | Looks like we have none on the agenda. Anyone have any? | 15:03 |
| osmanlicilegi | nope | 15:03 |
| dougsz | I was going to raise an issue, but I think I have a workaround. | 15:04 |
| dougsz | so, nope, for now at least | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | We can discuss in open discussion if you like | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #topic review action items from last meeting | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:05 | |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto to deprecate mongodb for ubuntu, drop for centos | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | I think I saw it proposed. | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | good work | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:06 | |
| mgoddard | "general issues with new py, affects tripleo as well, and jobs used from k-a" | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | what is this? | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | still an issue? | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | anyone? | 15:08 |
| osmanlicilegi | I'm not sure about the details | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | kolla CI looks green | 15:08 |
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| mgoddard | date is 13/2/2020, possibly an old one | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | we got past that | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | cool | 15:09 |
| mnasiadka | yeah, but still the workaround is applied I guess | 15:09 |
| mnasiadka | with installing newer virtualenv or something | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | it is | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | testing revert now | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | oh it's that thing | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | looks passy | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707623/ | 15:10 |
| patchbot | patch 707623 - kolla - Revert "Upgrade virtualenv in pre" - 1 patch set | 15:10 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: kolla-ansible part as well? :) | 15:10 |
| yoctozepto | well, you won't see from here unless you have zuul plugin in browser | 15:10 |
| yoctozepto | yeah | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | ok, let's try to get those merged | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | onto k-a | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | stein ubuntu binary fails on neutron migrations (foreign key blah blah) | 15:10 |
| yoctozepto | it failed recently yeah | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | I remember seeing it | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | is it a persistent failure? | 15:11 |
| yoctozepto | let's check :-) | 15:11 |
| yoctozepto | https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=kolla-ansible-ubuntu-binary&branch=stable%2Fstein | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | looks bad | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | anyone want to investigate? | 15:12 |
| mnasiadka | neutron backported the fail to stein? :D | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | rechecking https://review.opendev.org/#/c/706078/ | 15:12 |
| patchbot | patch 706078 - kolla-ansible (stable/stein) - Fix multiple issues with MariaDB handling - 1 patch set | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: no idea | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: somehow only binary | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | I wonder why it's binary only. Maybe the package needs a bump? | 15:13 |
| mnasiadka | I already raised two bugs to neutron, not gonna look into third one :) | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | or stein needs a release | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | in uca | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | yes | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | but they surely should know theu have b0rken debs | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | let's se | 15:13 |
| mnasiadka | we could check the neutron version in UCA stein-testing - if there's a version difference | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | sounds like a volunteer | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | #action mnasiadka to check ubuntu stein UCA neutron versions and request release if necessary | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | thanks :) | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | report back if it's more complicated than that | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Yongjun Bai proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting glance/heat api https://review.opendev.org/707131 | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | "general issues with new py when run from kolla side" | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Yongjun Bai proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting glance/heat api https://review.opendev.org/707131 | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | assume this is the virtualenv issue? | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: the same | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | removing | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: 14.04 got to updates some time ago, probably it's broken-ish | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | 14.04?? | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | neutron-server 14.04 | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | whatever it is on Ubuntu side :) | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | lol, thought you meant ubuntu 14.04 | 15:17 |
| mnasiadka | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/stein_versions.html | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: and what is current | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | 14.1.0 | 15:18 |
| mnasiadka | I don't like the 1 in the middle :) | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | 14.0.4 vs 14.1.0 | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: why? | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | it's a bumpy in reqs most likely | 15:18 |
| mnasiadka | it basically means normally it's a big change or some feature backport :) | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | or exactly fix for our issue which required dep update ;-) | 15:19 |
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| yoctozepto | anyways, mnasiadka pokes uca and we are good | 15:19 |
| mnasiadka | might be | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | #undo | 15:19 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/stein_versions.html | 15:19 |
| mnasiadka | well, another bug to raise I guess | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | #undo | 15:19 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action mnasiadka to check ubuntu stein UCA neutron versions and request release if necessary | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/stein_versions.html | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | #action mnasiadka request neutron 14.1.0 in stein UCA | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | pretty precise | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | precise pangolin? | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | anyways | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | xD | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | #topic Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:20 | |
| mgoddard | Any Ussuri features we need to discuss this week? | 15:21 |
| mnasiadka | maybe not a feature, but a community goal - can I get some reviews on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707800/ ? | 15:21 |
| patchbot | patch 707800 - kolla - [community goal]: Add contributor and PTL guide - 2 patch sets | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | will try to get a looko | 15:22 |
| mnasiadka | good | 15:22 |
| yoctozepto | "So You Want to Contribute..." is in the goal? ;D | 15:22 |
| mnasiadka | would love some reviews on OVN patch | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | my review queue seems to be growing faster than I can process | 15:22 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: complain to the goal coordinator :) | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: I started a review of OVN :) | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: good to hear :) | 15:23 |
| osmanlicilegi | ah I feel ashame now. mnasiadka I'm so sorry I couldn't spent time for the comments you wait from me :| | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | will try to finish | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: easy, fix your datacenter :) | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | can we mark https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/ceph-ansible complete? | 15:24 |
| mnasiadka | well, I'd like to add prechecks for keys existence - but it's rather optional and nice to have | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/remove-ceph | 15:24 |
| mnasiadka | yeah, that one for sure | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: the blueprint is just about CI | 15:25 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: right, I just took the extra mile to make it more user friendly :) | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | always appreciated | 15:25 |
| mnasiadka | whoa, remove-ceph was never approved :) | 15:25 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well, it's better to beg for forgiveness, than to ask for permission - that's my life motto :) | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: gets things done faster | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | rm -rf; echo sorry | 15:27 |
| mnasiadka | yeah, sorry is the key | 15:27 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I've almost spilled my drink | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | apologies | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | although I did already say sorry | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | anything else to discuss? | 15:29 |
| yoctozepto | only stuff for later | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | #topic Ussuri release planning (kayobe) | 15:29 |
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| mgoddard | dougsz | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | Can't see priteau or jovial | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | where them folks at | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | where, where | 15:30 |
| dougsz | hmm.. what do we have, possibly a cells config cleanup | 15:31 |
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| mgoddard | dougsz: what needs to be done for that? | 15:32 |
| cosmicsound | So ceph stays? :D | 15:32 |
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| * cosmicsound chuckels | 15:32 | |
| mgoddard | cosmicsound: ceph? too late - it's gone | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Fine tune Galera gmcast.peer_timeout to 15 seconds https://review.opendev.org/707818 | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | aha, priteau & jovial[m] | 15:32 |
| priteau | o/ | 15:32 |
| jovial[m] | hi | 15:33 |
| dougsz | mgoddard: Anything to make it more manageable for high numbers of cells | 15:33 |
| dougsz | on the topic of ceph.. do we have any Kayobe references to remove? | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | there is more work cells planned for k-a, will you be looking at it before ussuri? | 15:34 |
| dougsz | We need shared cell controllers sooner or later | 15:34 |
| dougsz | I will try to | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Add linuxbridge jobs https://review.opendev.org/708318 | 15:34 |
| dougsz | We already have some half backed patches around that | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | yep | 15:35 |
| dougsz | *baked | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | I think a separate nova-compute role might make it more scalable, but that needs investigation | 15:35 |
| dougsz | agreed | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | on the ceph removal, I created https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007295 | 15:35 |
| jovial[m] | a high priority for me would be to implement the custom extension points proposal | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | we have a role to label block devices | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | anyone want to pick up ceph removal? | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | should be therapeutic if you like removing code | 15:36 |
| jovial[m] | I will volunteer if no one else wants it | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | #action jovial[m] to remove kayobe ceph block device labelling support https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007295 | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | thanks | 15:37 |
| dougsz | thanks jovial[m] | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: is it possible to volunteer from outside? | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | ah, too late :-) | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | anyone can volunteer to work on kayobe | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | there is no outside in open source :) | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | well, you know, making it official | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | and stuff | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | could get to know kayobe better | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | you want to take it? | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | I'm sure jovial[m] won't mind too much :) | 15:38 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: yeah, therapeutic | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | #undo | 15:38 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action jovial[m] to remove kayobe ceph block device labelling support https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007295 | 15:39 |
| jovial[m] | fine by me :) | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | #action yoctozepto to remove kayobe ceph block device labelling support https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007295 | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | thanks yoctozepto | 15:39 |
| dougsz | +1 | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | ;-) | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m] is away for a while anyway | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m]: you would like to see the custom extension points proposal | 15:40 |
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| mgoddard | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001663 | 15:40 |
| cosmicsound | :) | 15:40 |
| dougsz | We certainly have an issue with exporters, would be nice to use it for that | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m]: want to pick it up? | 15:40 |
| jovial[m] | for sure - lots of people want this I believe | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | +1 | 15:41 |
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| mgoddard | it will make for a smoother ride in many cases | 15:41 |
| priteau | Extension points and multiple environments are two big requested features | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | #action jovial[m] to work on custom extension points | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | yep | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | folks, remember some extensions might better fit in k-a | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | and these are welcome as well | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard to correct me :-) | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: you are right | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | we will try to use judgement | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | OK | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | this is about a framework for running hook playbooks at various points in kayobe workflows | 15:43 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: yeah, skimmed over story | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | onto the other big feature then - multiple environments | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002009 | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | anyone interested in picking this up? | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | it's a bigger task | 15:44 |
| dougsz | not enough cycles, sorry | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | could potentially be a collaboration between multiple people | 15:44 |
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| dougsz | Maybe someone is willing to help fund it? | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | I'd like to be involved to some extent, but CentOS 8 is eating my cycles at the moment | 15:45 |
| jovial[m] | another must have feature in my opinion | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | I think we have a funder (getting a bit internal here though :)) | 15:46 |
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| mgoddard | ok, no takers yet | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | keep it in mind | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: slightly off topic; bored with bifrost, how is bikolla going? I really liked the "containerized bifrost" | 15:46 |
| jovial[m] | how long have we got until the next release? | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | Kolla feature freeze: Apr 27 - May 01 | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: has it any roadmap or whatever? | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | Kolla RC1: May 11 - May 15 | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | Kolla final release: Jun 1 - Jun 5 | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | can we fit it any place? | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | when you say containerised bifrost you don't mean our current bifrost container :) | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I mean bikolla hence "" | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | :D | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | dougsz was looking at it recently | 15:48 |
| yoctozepto | dougsz: how's bikolla? :-) | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | still at the proposal/design stage though IIRC | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | or possibly just blocked on cycles :) | 15:48 |
| yoctozepto | I'd like to be in for any eventual discussion | 15:48 |
| dougsz | we need it for deploying a large number of hypervisors | 15:48 |
| dougsz | I was also wondering about just using the top level ironic for that | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | noted yoctozepto | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | thanks | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | dougsz: what do you mean by "top level" | 15:49 |
| dougsz | the overcloud ironic, not bifrost ironic | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | that is the other option | 15:50 |
| mnasiadka | dougsz: don't you want to use it for standing up the overcloud? :) | 15:50 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, I'm confused too | 15:50 |
| dougsz | well, bifrost can still handle a small number of controllers, just not the hypervisors | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | I thought bikolla is about deploying standalone ironic with kolla | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | so bifrost via kolla without bifrost | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | correct | 15:51 |
| mnasiadka | dougsz: looking from Kolla side - I would be happy to deprecate and remove bifrost container, and this way we would need to maintain it :) | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | +1 | 15:52 |
| dougsz | yeah, it is balancing the maintenance of bifrost against the work required for bikolla | 15:52 |
| jovial[m] | would kayobe need a name change? ;-) | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | jovial[m]: not it's a snake | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | be become bikolla | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | kayobikolla? | 15:53 |
| yoctozepto | kolla on bi...kolla on bi..kolla ..... | 15:53 |
| yoctozepto | perpetum kayobile | 15:53 |
| jovial[m] | :D | 15:53 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: looking from another perspective - maybe it would make sense to document bikolla in k-a and make it easier to use for users? I don't think anybody is really aware of using bikolla instead of bifrost. | 15:53 |
| yoctozepto | ^ that's also what I meant | 15:53 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka better at putting my thoughts in words | 15:53 |
| yoctozepto | thanks mnasiadka | 15:53 |
| mgoddard | we could do that | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | "but we won't" | 15:54 |
| mnasiadka | well, anybody with spare cycles can do that | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka to pick it up? | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | I am too nooby atm ;p | 15:54 |
| mnasiadka | I can add it to my list, although not with a very high priority :) | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | high is fine ;-) | 15:55 |
| mnasiadka | hell, we could even do deploy-bikolla with some stock inventory file and stock globals to deploy it on localhost | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | docs to deploy the containers should be easy enough | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | using the thing and a full tested procedure would take longer | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | that said, does kayobe have docs on how ci is configured? | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | aka what is tested | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | (exactly what k-a misses ;-) ) | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | and how | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | it's covered as well as in k-a :) | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | ack ;-) | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | let's move on | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | #topic XenAPI deprecated in Nova Train, removal pending | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | 3 minutes | 15:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "XenAPI deprecated in Nova Train, removal pending (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:57 | |
| yoctozepto | indeed let's | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | quickie from me | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | we seem to use xenapi with our xen integration | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | I want you to confirm that | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | (or deny) | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | looks like it | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | and then we deprecate and remove following nova | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | thank you | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Stop using deprecated stores and default_store in glance https://review.opendev.org/708114 | 15:57 |
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| mgoddard | certainly lots of greps for xenapi in k-a | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | well, that was fast | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: your thoughts? | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | jovial[m], priteau, dougsz, osmanlicilegi: any kolla xen experience? | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | are they removing completely, or extracting into a separate lib? | 15:58 |
| dougsz | nope | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: they deprecated for removal in future | 15:58 |
| mnasiadka | it was not really clear what are they doing | 15:58 |
| osmanlicilegi | I'm not using xen since 2015 :] | 15:58 |
| priteau | none, sorry | 15:58 |
| jovial[m] | afraid not, I'ma libvirt only man | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | in *Train* | 15:58 |
| mnasiadka | we don't have xen CI | 15:58 |
| mnasiadka | there was somebody that was trying to make it work | 15:59 |
| egonzalez | cberent (non online now) i believe he o some of his clients were using xen | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: thanks, sherlock! | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | yeah, JamesBenson maybe? | 15:59 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: that was the guy - not overly active now | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | wonder how they doing | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | hi egonzalez :) | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | egonzalez: what is full name of cberent? | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | maybe we should wait for nova removal? | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | (or was) | 15:59 |
| dougsz | Is there time for a quick question about /etc/security/limits.conf? | 15:59 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: I would just deprecate for now | 16:00 |
| egonzalez | yoctozepto: Christian Berendt | 16:00 |
| mnasiadka | with some nice warning message when enabled | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: berendt is his IRC nick | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | deprecation makes sense | 16:00 |
| yoctozepto | egonzalez, mgoddard: oh, that's the guy who started helping with reviews again | 16:00 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: ^ | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | (which is what yoctozepto said) | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | yes | 16:00 |
| mnasiadka | yeah, Christian got a bit active today | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | #topic open discussion | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
| mgoddard | dougsz has a qq | 16:01 |
| yoctozepto | nice reviews, we should keep him in core team as we can't add him more | 16:01 |
| dougsz | 1. deployment uses base image with some settings in /etc/security/limits.conf | 16:01 |
| generalfuzz | If we could have a couple eyes on https://review.opendev.org/664516 it would be greatly appreciated | 16:01 |
| patchbot | patch 664516 - kolla-ansible - Add support for encrypting backend HAProxy traffic - 19 patch sets | 16:01 |
| yoctozepto | as for xen - I'll post it to ml | 16:01 |
| dougsz | 2. Settings make their way into nova-ssh container | 16:02 |
| mnasiadka | (they make their way to all container I guess) | 16:02 |
| dougsz | 3. One of the settings is nproc, the number of processes a user can open | 16:02 |
| dougsz | 4. That setting restricts the number of SSH sessions | 16:02 |
| dougsz | So.. should the Nova SSH container own that file, to prevent this? | 16:02 |
| yoctozepto | generalfuzz: we can't handle that root thingy with current sudo? | 16:03 |
| dougsz | Should we support customising it explicity? | 16:03 |
| dougsz | Or just use custom config in the Docker file to modify it in the Nova SSH container? | 16:03 |
| yoctozepto | generalfuzz: I mean, it breaks current assumptions we use sudo to gain root in containers | 16:03 |
| mnasiadka | dougsz: What is their setting of max concurrent live migrations? | 16:03 |
| cosmicsound | dougsz , +1 that could be also a security issue | 16:03 |
| mgoddard | dougsz: I think the problem is that VMs and other processes are created as the nova user, which is also used by the nova-ssh container | 16:03 |
| dougsz | yeah | 16:04 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: I don't know if VMs and other processes use a workflow to get pam_limits in the way, or not | 16:04 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: without using dimensions it's a tricky thing | 16:04 |
| yoctozepto | rebuild is pain for this, let's make it customizable too | 16:04 |
| mnasiadka | well, another thing - why not use docker dimensions a.k.a. docker run --ulimit for that? | 16:05 |
| generalfuzz | yoctozepto: I will investigate it with sudo | 16:06 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: I imagine that would be a different cgroup-based limit | 16:06 |
| yoctozepto | generalfuzz: thanks, that would limit the scope of the patch, otherwise we need splitting AGAIN :D | 16:06 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: are you sure? https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/commandline/run/#set-ulimits-in-container---ulimit | 16:06 |
| mnasiadka | well, dimensions are other thing - I confused everybody I think :) | 16:07 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: this way instead of copying file, we could set Ulimits via Docker API | 16:07 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: dimensions == ulimit | 16:08 |
| mgoddard | that would be nicer | 16:08 |
| mgoddard | and also easy to verify | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Will Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Introduce influxdb_datadir_volume https://review.opendev.org/707861 | 16:08 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: well, I thought dimensions == --cpu-percent and others from Docker CLI - then I confused myself even more :) | 16:08 |
| yoctozepto | oh my | 16:09 |
| yoctozepto | so much confusion | 16:09 |
| yoctozepto | :S | 16:09 |
| mgoddard | https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/rocky/reference/resource-constraints.html | 16:09 |
| mnasiadka | I would ask why it's called dimensions instead of ulimits :) | 16:09 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: so then I'm right | 16:09 |
| mgoddard | doesnhttps://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/reference/deployment-config/resource-constraints.html | 16:09 |
| mgoddard | https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/reference/deployment-config/resource-constraints.html | 16:09 |
| mnasiadka | these are not ulimits, just cgroups resource constraints | 16:09 |
| mnasiadka | so I was thinking correct | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | has ulimits | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | added in stein? | 16:10 |
| mnasiadka | then it's an easy thing | 16:10 |
| mnasiadka | just use ulimits in the dimensions | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | yes. question is whether it should be default or local config | 16:10 |
| mnasiadka | instead of doing it with pam_limits | 16:10 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: well then, it's up to the user/operator - they can use a default/global and only override locally on nova_ssh (or nova_*) | 16:11 |
| mgoddard | yeah, although it was quite a nasty bug to track down - maybe we should fix it for everyone? or provide a tuneable? | 16:12 |
| mnasiadka | care for an example? The only thing I can think of is warning if there are constrains defined in pam_limit :) | 16:12 |
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| yoctozepto | so outside docker ulimit overrides limits from internal security? | 16:13 |
| yoctozepto | (I lost track of discussion due to all confusion) | 16:13 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well now it's a good question, which one wins | 16:14 |
| mnasiadka | :) | 16:14 |
| yoctozepto | ah-ha | 16:14 |
| mnasiadka | Be careful setting nproc with the ulimit flag as nproc is designed by Linux to set the maximum number of processes available to a user, not to a container. For example, start four containers with daemon user. | 16:14 |
| mnasiadka | this is also a good note from the documentation | 16:14 |
| mnasiadka | maybe we should add it to our docs as well | 16:14 |
| mnasiadka | and recommend using Docker API based ulimits, instead of delivering that file | 16:15 |
| mnasiadka | that in a file | 16:15 |
| mgoddard | this is why VM procs in nova_libvirt affect nova_ssh | 16:15 |
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| mgoddard | I think some investigation needs to be done into how to fix this | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | use a separate user? | 16:16 |
| mnasiadka | how? :) | 16:16 |
| mgoddard | same user - nova | 16:16 |
| mgoddard | although I would exect UID namespaces to differ | 16:16 |
| mgoddard | seems PAM doesn't care :) | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I'm adding confusion, don't confuse me | 16:16 |
| yoctozepto | hmm, odd | 16:17 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: well, it's PAM... | 16:17 |
| mgoddard | I think there are too many unknowns to discuss this now | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | needs investigation and let's end the meeting | 16:17 |
| mgoddard | someone needs to investigate and report back | 16:17 |
| mgoddard | are you picking that up dougsz? | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | dougsz? | 16:17 |
| mnasiadka | yes, dougsz came with a question, so he should investigate :D | 16:17 |
| dougsz | I will start by writing a bug report :) | 16:17 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I wrote that at the same time ;-) | 16:18 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: it's asking dougsz ;-) | 16:18 |
| dougsz | and do some investigation | 16:18 |
| yoctozepto | dougsz: bug report +1 | 16:18 |
| mgoddard | #action dougsz to write bug report about nova SSH nproc issue | 16:18 |
| yoctozepto | otherwise no problem | 16:18 |
| yoctozepto | :-) | 16:18 |
| dougsz | thanks guys | 16:18 |
| yoctozepto | thanks dougsz | 16:18 |
| mgoddard | 18 minutes over, what chatterboxes | 16:19 |
| mgoddard | thanks all | 16:19 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kolla IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - see agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b" | 16:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 19 16:19:12 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-02-19-15.00.html | 16:19 |
| mnasiadka | thanks | 16:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-02-19-15.00.txt | 16:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-02-19-15.00.log.html | 16:19 |
| mgoddard | One day I will forget to end the meeting and we will have a week long meeting | 16:19 |
| osmanlicilegi | :))) | 16:20 |
| yoctozepto | shappens ;-) | 16:20 |
| osmanlicilegi | "the never ending meeting of kolla" | 16:20 |
| osmanlicilegi | thx and good evening folks | 16:22 |
| cosmicsound | need to prepare my designate findings and tls / ssl issues | 16:23 |
| cosmicsound | opened a bug yet surely can get more details for it | 16:23 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: I think we have week long meetings already, just we have an hour (which we exhaust) of ,,official meeting'' :) | 16:24 |
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| cosmicsound | question, after your experience what is most reasonable storage backend for openstack? | 16:37 |
| cosmicsound | so much wanted to give a try to ceph, yet more and more people told me is not best compared to price and size. | 16:38 |
| egonzalez | overall ceph, but Im happy with netapp in prod now | 16:38 |
| cosmicsound | netapp paid solution or FOSS software | 16:40 |
| cosmicsound | Aww appliances | 16:40 |
| egonzalez | paid $$$$, nfs version | 16:41 |
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| yoctozepto | cosmicsound: what's wrong with ceph anyways? | 16:42 |
| cosmicsound | yoctozepto , from what i've researched around it, its much more complex on planning and more costly it seems | 16:45 |
| cosmicsound | anyhow will surely give it a try together with k-a and ceph-ansible | 16:45 |
| cosmicsound | for the moment is still working well | 16:45 |
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| cosmicsound | egonzalez , this are all SAN based? | 16:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: Try waiting for Monasca API to come up https://review.opendev.org/656528 | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: CI: Add monasca scenario https://review.opendev.org/649893 | 16:53 |
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| cosmicsound | egonzalez , thanks for feedback, surely will check all options before picking any | 17:13 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka, dougsz: btw, k-a centos8 cells jobs are really faily, not sure why | 17:15 |
| mgoddard | hmm | 17:15 |
| mnasiadka | Huh, novncconsole leak | 17:16 |
| mnasiadka | I mean novncproxy | 17:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Anderson proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update docs to say that external Ceph required https://review.opendev.org/708708 | 17:35 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: as long as you don't let randoms read your logs you are fine | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Clean up some kolla-kubernetes cruft in OVS https://review.opendev.org/708710 | 17:39 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard joins in cleanup competition :-) | 17:40 |
| * mgoddard never stopped cleaning up :) | 17:41 | |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: re ceph keyrings - does not ansible decrypt on copy? | 17:41 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: so they could be just encrypted? | 17:42 |
| mnasiadka | They could, putting them in passwords.yml won’t help with anything - still you need to template them out to files on computes:) | 17:43 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I’ve done so much with ceph recently, that I’m happy to see what others would want to do :) | 17:44 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, but I think his problem is not existent :-) | 17:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla master: Remove start-ovsdb-server script from openvswitch-db-server https://review.opendev.org/708711 | 17:45 |
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| yoctozepto | oh no, efried is leaving us :< | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Get rid of Python 2 support https://review.opendev.org/691316 | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Drop weird swift rootwrap config (xenapi with placeholder values) https://review.opendev.org/708733 | 19:54 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: '"networking-hyperv>=5.0.0,<6.0.0"' <- that's on kolla master, pretty unsupported :D | 20:07 |
| yoctozepto | I'm proposing deprecs but hyperv looks like immediate drop to me ;p | 20:08 |
| yoctozepto | C:\Program Files\Cloudbase Solutions\OpenStack\Nova\bin\mkisofs.exe | 20:11 |
| yoctozepto | pretty interesting | 20:11 |
| kplant | ew, hyperv | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Deprecate Hyper-V integrations https://review.opendev.org/708740 | 20:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Deprecate VMware integrations https://review.opendev.org/708741 | 20:20 |
| bjolo | is kolla-ansible planning to support OVN? | 20:26 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: mkisofs for config drive, and yes - this constraint of version is weird | 20:26 |
| mnasiadka | bjolo: yes, there is a change under review, so it should land in Ussuri | 20:26 |
| yoctozepto | ah, mnasiadka was faster :-) | 20:27 |
| bjolo | ok cool :) | 20:27 |
| bjolo | looking forward to test it out | 20:27 |
| noxoid_ | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/696841/ | 20:27 |
| patchbot | patch 696841 - kolla-ansible - OVN Support - 92 patch sets | 20:27 |
| noxoid_ | for the curious | 20:27 |
| yoctozepto | it's mnasiadka's work btw, so he gets most praise :-) | 20:27 |
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| noxoid_ | indeed, the ovn documentation shows a lot of benefits compared to a pure neutron SDN. i plan to look at migrating to ovn once ussuri has been out for a few months | 20:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Deprecate XenAPI integrations https://review.opendev.org/708743 | 20:33 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: all deprecated | 20:34 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: we might want to write up more details about these but I think it's a decent start | 20:35 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: especially when nobody cares ;-) | 20:35 |
| bjolo | kudos to mnasiadka :) | 20:35 |
| yoctozepto | kudos indeed | 20:35 |
| bjolo | ovs is a pain. we have a lot of weird behaviors | 20:36 |
| yoctozepto | bjolo: well ovn is ovs in a nicer packaging | 20:38 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: INFO:kolla.common.utils.opendaylight:[91mhttps://nexus.opendaylight.org/content/repositories/opendaylight-carbon-epel-7-x86_64-devel/org/opendaylight/integration-packaging/opendaylight/6.5.0-0.1.20180430snap36.el7.noarch/opendaylight-6.5.0-0.1.20180430snap36.el7.noarch.rpm: [Errno 12] Timeout on | 20:38 |
| yoctozepto | https://nexus.opendaylight.org/content/repositories/opendaylight-carbon-epel-7-x86_64-devel/org/opendaylight/integration-packaging/opendaylight/6.5.0-0.1.20180430snap36.el7.noarch/opendaylight-6.5.0-0.1.20180430snap36.el7.noarch.rpm: (28, 'Operation too slow. Less than 1000 bytes/sec transferred the last 30 seconds') | 20:38 |
| yoctozepto | nice way to end the day :-) | 20:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Anderson proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [gnocchi] Disable statsd daemon by default https://review.opendev.org/671618 | 21:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Anderson proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [gnocchi] Disable statsd daemon by default https://review.opendev.org/671618 | 21:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/kolla master: Add a generic header https://review.opendev.org/708758 | 21:59 |
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| ne0h|nihilist | hi, is there a way to verify if a custom configuration I'm making is being merged or applied to the container? Im trying to configure an external iscsi storage backend in cinder. | 22:28 |
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