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lizheming | hi,all | 01:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Ensure hostname resolved by kolla configured /etc/hosts file https://review.opendev.org/696047 | 04:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Split out OVS/Linuxbridge agent configs from ml2_conf.ini https://review.opendev.org/695367 | 06:06 |
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yoctozepto | morning | 06:27 |
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mnasiadka | morning | 07:54 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: Slawek confirmed in the review that we don't need the security groups part in ml2_conf.ini ;) | 07:54 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: how glad I am! Miód na moje uszy! | 07:56 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I will rephrase your releasenote if you don't mind | 08:01 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I don't, have a go ;) | 08:01 |
hrw | morning | 08:05 |
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hrw | fun fact: ubuntu 19.10 has too old erlang (22.0 instead of 22.1+) for rabbitmq needs. poor 20.04 lts users | 08:59 |
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yoctozepto | hrw: lol, then it's upstream forever ;p | 09:42 |
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mnasiadka | I see distro maintainers are getting better and better in their job | 09:50 |
Blinkiz | hrw: Erlang "1:22.1.8+dfsg-1" is in Debian Sid (testing) and Ubuntu 20.04 (proposed). | 09:50 |
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hrw | Blinkiz: Debian testing yes. good to know that it got to proposed in ubuntu | 10:06 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix kolla_ansible python module check https://review.opendev.org/696077 | 10:07 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Split out OVS/Linuxbridge agent configs from ml2_conf.ini https://review.opendev.org/695367 | 10:10 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Split out OVS/Linuxbridge agent configs from ml2_conf.ini https://review.opendev.org/695367 | 10:11 |
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hrw | yoctozepto, mnasiadka: take a look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/695465/ - probably last thing to do there is removal of 'WIP' | 10:29 |
patchbot | patch 695465 - kolla - WIP: Enable repos only when needed - 14 patch sets | 10:29 |
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mgoddard | morning | 10:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix kolla_ansible python module check https://review.opendev.org/696281 | 11:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support python 3 in kolla-ansible script https://review.opendev.org/696143 | 11:16 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Use python 3 for local kolla-ansible execution https://review.opendev.org/696061 | 11:16 |
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sri_ | mgoddard, if you have min, glance failing when i tried to create image from volume "FailedToDropPrivileges: privsep helper command exited non-zero" http://paste.openstack.org/show/786791/ | 11:37 |
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sri_ | mgoddard, I'm not sure is this that right place to ask this question :( | 11:38 |
yoctozepto | sri_, mgoddard: sudo asked for password ;D | 11:41 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, is it inside container ? | 11:42 |
yoctozepto | sri_: yah | 11:42 |
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yoctozepto | we might be missing some config for sudo | 11:42 |
yoctozepto | which release is it? | 11:43 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, stain | 11:43 |
sri_ | centos base, this bug also looks very similar https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1658367 | 11:44 |
openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1658367 in openstack-glance "Glance store for cinder fails on PrivSep" [Medium,Closed: notabug] - Assigned to akekane | 11:44 |
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yoctozepto | sri_: for completeness - source or binary? | 11:58 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, source | 11:58 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: can you look in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/695170/ ? | 12:37 |
patchbot | patch 695170 - kolla - Update skydive version to 0.26.0 - 1 patch set | 12:37 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: done | 12:39 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: thx | 12:43 |
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hrw | ok, back to erlang | 12:45 |
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yoctozepto | sri_: if you read this later, let us know what backend you are using for glance | 12:56 |
yoctozepto | (or any other specific config) | 12:56 |
yoctozepto | weird we would not get this issue earlier | 12:56 |
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yoctozepto | sri_: and report a bug, surely there is some | 13:12 |
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sri_ | yoctozepto, glance backend is ceph, http://paste.openstack.org/show/786798/ | 13:16 |
yoctozepto | sri_: weeeird, I have glance stein centos source working with ceph | 13:17 |
yoctozepto | does it happen with regular glance usage or only via karbor? | 13:17 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, only with karbor | 13:18 |
yoctozepto | (or could it be that enabling swift misconfigured glance?) | 13:18 |
yoctozepto | ah, understood | 13:18 |
yoctozepto | wonder what it does that makes glance use its privsep helper | 13:18 |
yoctozepto | sri_: post a bug on kolla-ansible, we'll handled it from there | 13:19 |
sri_ | Sure, thank you: yoctozepto | 13:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Split out OVS/Linuxbridge agent configs from ml2_conf.ini https://review.opendev.org/695367 | 13:35 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: ^^ this meant to be simple, now it's getting complicated :D | 13:37 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: what can we do? | 13:37 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: as always, deprecate | 13:38 |
* yoctozepto and mnasiadka - the openstack deprecators | 13:39 | |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: thanks for addressing this | 13:40 |
yoctozepto | one minor and one optional test asked for | 13:41 |
yoctozepto | and you are free to work on something else :D | 13:41 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: that is healthy for us, especially in the light of linux bridge not being deprecated, and plan to deprecate ml2/ovs in some time | 13:41 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Split out OVS/Linuxbridge agent configs from ml2_conf.ini https://review.opendev.org/695367 | 13:42 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: around testing fake nova/neutron - I'll do it later in the afternoon, to make sure it works | 13:43 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, that's why I proposed to split and refresh our view on this | 13:43 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: great, thanks | 13:43 |
mnasiadka | but for now all my VMs are burning cycles on healthchecks and OVN ;) | 13:43 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: employ CI :D | 13:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: CI: Move to CentOS 8 nodepool images https://review.opendev.org/692794 | 13:47 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto, sri_: following that tripleo bug, looks like they add some volumes to glance-api and run in the container in privileged mode when cinder is the glance backend | 13:52 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: I imagine the privilege hides the privsep issue | 13:52 |
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hrw | yay, first part of getting rid of centos7 done | 13:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Use python3 for openstack clients https://review.opendev.org/696062 | 14:01 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Get rid of Python 2 support https://review.opendev.org/695168 | 14:01 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Update skydive version to 0.26.0 https://review.opendev.org/695170 | 14:16 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard: not rushing with a fix unless I understand the issue or at least persuaded myself I do ;-) | 14:39 |
yoctozepto | I can't see how karbor breaks glance with ceph | 14:40 |
yoctozepto | as glance with ceph works by itseld | 14:40 |
yoctozepto | there is no mention of cinder in this interaction so far | 14:40 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: L109, glance_store/_drivers/cinder.py | 14:42 |
mgoddard | 'sudo', 'glance-rootwrap', '/etc/glance/rootwrap.conf', 'privsep-helper', '--config-file', '/etc/glance/glance-api.conf', '--privsep_context', 'os_brick.privileged.default', '--privsep_sock_path', '/tmp/tmpWWVpyU/privsep.sock'] | 14:43 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: we have no sudoers config for glance. I imagine we need something for privsep | 14:44 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: if it was working I'd expect to be able to run privsep with an invalid command and have it complain about the command rather than sudo | 14:44 |
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mgoddard | yoctozepto: in train centos/binary I can run this: | 14:47 |
mgoddard | sudo docker exec glance_api sudo glance-rootwrap /etc/glance/rootwrap.conf privsep-helper | 14:47 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: I don't expect source images have the sudoers config though | 14:48 |
mgoddard | glance ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/glance-rootwrap /etc/glance/rootwrap.conf * | 14:48 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: no sudoers config for centos/source stein | 14:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support configuration of Docker client timeout https://review.opendev.org/696316 | 14:54 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne | 14:58 |
yoctozepto | meeting in 2 minutes | 14:58 |
* hrw -> coffee then | 14:58 | |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard: the "no sudoers" is pretty straightforward, I am more interested as to why it suddenly requires one | 14:59 |
mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 27 15:01:28 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:01 |
mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:01 | |
mgoddard | \o | 15:01 |
yoctozepto | o/ | 15:01 |
hrw | o/ | 15:01 |
scottsol | o/ | 15:01 |
mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:04 |
mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:04 |
mgoddard | ** Ussuri priorities now listed on whiteboard https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | 15:04 |
mgoddard | ** PTG summary on openstack-discuss: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011084.html | 15:04 |
mgoddard | ** Infra images discussion on openstack-discuss: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011120.html | 15:04 |
mgoddard | ** CentOS 8 host migration discussion on openstack-discuss: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011130.html | 15:04 |
mgoddard | * Review action items from last meeting | 15:04 |
mgoddard | * CI status | 15:04 |
mgoddard | * Train release planning | 15:04 |
mgoddard | * Ussuri release planning | 15:04 |
mgoddard | * Review priorities | 15:04 |
mgoddard | ** Ceph orchestrator | 15:04 |
mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
mgoddard | #info Ussuri priorities now listed on whiteboard | 15:04 |
mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | 15:04 |
mgoddard | #info PTG summary on openstack-discuss | 15:05 |
mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011084.html | 15:05 |
mgoddard | #info Infra images discussion on openstack-discuss | 15:05 |
mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011120.html | 15:05 |
mgoddard | #info CentOS 8 host migration discussion on openstack-discuss | 15:05 |
mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011130.html | 15:05 |
mgoddard | Please join in these discussions as we try to firm up some of the more squishy features | 15:06 |
mgoddard | Any others? | 15:06 |
mgoddard | #topic Review action items from last meeting | 15:06 |
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mgoddard | mgoddard to tidy up ussuri priorities and add to whiteboard | 15:07 |
mgoddard | check | 15:07 |
mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:07 |
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mgoddard | "kolla-toolbox fails to build on Ubuntu due to libssl older than libssl-dev" | 15:07 |
mgoddard | that one is 'fixed' now right? | 15:07 |
hrw | CI passed through it | 15:07 |
mgoddard | ok, reverted whiteboard to green | 15:08 |
mgoddard | #topic Train release planning | 15:08 |
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mgoddard | I think we're getting close | 15:09 |
mgoddard | https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/9.0.0 | 15:09 |
yoctozepto | pending is the rmq issue | 15:09 |
yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi to work on that but not finished yet | 15:09 |
mgoddard | yeah | 15:09 |
mgoddard | is it release blocking? | 15:09 |
hrw | I would release with 3.7.10 | 15:09 |
yoctozepto | other one is https://review.opendev.org/695804 | 15:09 |
patchbot | patch 695804 - kolla-ansible - [Train] Fix Tacker config for the local Glance store - 3 patch sets | 15:09 |
yoctozepto | just waiting for you | 15:10 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard, hrw: if we don't mind mid-cycle upgrade | 15:10 |
yoctozepto | could work, not breaking completely obviously | 15:10 |
hrw | yoctozepto: at least it would be tested in ussuri. | 15:10 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: I +2 tacker | 15:10 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: I know, and send my thanks | 15:10 |
hrw | yoctozepto: now it is 'we have train built/tested, lets add fresh rmq and release' | 15:10 |
mgoddard | hrw: we're not talking about an rmq upgrade, "only" erlang | 15:11 |
hrw | yoctozepto: we completely lack !x86 support for rmq/erlang | 15:11 |
yoctozepto | hrw: I don't mind too much | 15:11 |
mgoddard | eitehr way it's still risky | 15:11 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: yeah, only erlang and rmq is patch level | 15:11 |
yoctozepto | yeah, because it is erlang dribing most of networking there | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | driving* | 15:12 |
mgoddard | hmm, actually it is a rmq patch upgrade, missed that | 15:14 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: no point in leaving bugs since they were blocked by erlang | 15:14 |
yoctozepto | though still it's erlang more worrying | 15:14 |
yoctozepto | the plus fact is that it's a configuration "tested" by rmq upstream | 15:15 |
yoctozepto | so we are possibly getting them to consider our bug reports as worthy ;p | 15:15 |
mgoddard | scottsol: I think this is your issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1814233 | 15:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1814233 in kolla "rabbitmq image fails to build" [Critical,Fix released] | 15:16 |
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scottsol | yeh still stuck with that | 15:16 |
scottsol | erlang-hipe and the pinning of rmq wont work | 15:17 |
yoctozepto | well, not really stuck, it remains to patch tripleo and provide aarch64 repos to kolla | 15:17 |
mgoddard | how close are we to aarch64 repos? | 15:17 |
yoctozepto | I think hrw has finished them | 15:18 |
hrw | not quite | 15:18 |
yoctozepto | at least for some | 15:18 |
yoctozepto | ah ok | 15:18 |
yoctozepto | still, not in patch | 15:18 |
yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi not around hmm | 15:18 |
mgoddard | ok. Let's see how it progresses over the next few days | 15:19 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Use valid_interfaces instead of os_interface for placement https://review.opendev.org/696323 | 15:19 |
mgoddard | https://launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+milestone/9.0.0 | 15:19 |
mgoddard | the open bug list does seem to be going down | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi: ping me by tomorrow - otherwise I assume you are not able to make it so I can pick it up | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | thanks | 15:20 |
mgoddard | are we planning to get enforce_scope to work for train? | 15:21 |
mgoddard | seems like a big change | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | I think he was around during the day | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: yeah, I'm afraid it could break in funny ways | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | I would like to but scared | 15:22 |
mgoddard | I'm tempted to remove the 9.0.0 milestone for that one | 15:22 |
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mgoddard | it's a big enough patch that it looks like a feature | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | it's kind of to support a feature in train | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | "fix kolla-ansible to enable that feature" thing | 15:23 |
yoctozepto | borderline | 15:23 |
mgoddard | should we try to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1844349 in ? | 15:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1844349 in kolla-ansible ussuri "Neighbour table overflow problem with Neutron" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Pierre Riteau (priteau) | 15:23 |
priteau | That would be great. I am OK with removing the conntrack bits if that helps | 15:24 |
mgoddard | probably not urgent but osmanlicilegi said it helped | 15:24 |
priteau | I think I only took them from the charm code, it wasn't actually required on the deployment from where this fix originated | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard, priteau: I am fine with either way, I just missed that there was any response on this, sorry ;-/ | 15:25 |
mgoddard | the patch is W-1 currently priteau | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | taking unnecessary bits off is better as always | 15:25 |
* priteau checking why it is like this | 15:25 | |
mgoddard | W-1 Need to investigate if this is really relevant only for neutron-l3-agent. | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | if we all agree that less is more | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | (man less) | 15:25 |
priteau | Right, I wanted to check if it was needed only for neutron-l3-agent hosts | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | at least most relevant | 15:26 |
priteau | The problem is that the only environment where I can easily reproduce this is a production cloud :D | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | maybe get mnasiadka to ask neutron friends | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | priteau: :D | 15:26 |
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hrw | priteau: perfect testing environment | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | closest to real world scenario | 15:27 |
hrw | priteau: at least when it fails lot of people tell you about it | 15:27 |
hrw | not that you will miss it etc | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | only pluses | 15:28 |
mgoddard | ok, if priteau can tidy up, we can try to get it into train | 15:28 |
mgoddard | I'll do another check of backports | 15:29 |
priteau | I am on it | 15:29 |
mgoddard | thanks | 15:29 |
mgoddard | I think rmq/erlang is the only thing holding the release at this point. Let's try to get an answer for that and get our GA out | 15:30 |
mgoddard | given the CentOS 8 migration we'll probably need some big changes to train down the line anyway | 15:30 |
hrw | once I sort out building erlang packages I will update patch with repos | 15:30 |
mgoddard | thanks gr | 15:30 |
mgoddard | hrw: | 15:30 |
mgoddard | let's move on to kayobe train release | 15:31 |
mgoddard | jovial has offered to do the release handle cranking | 15:31 |
mgoddard | we're hoping to be not too far behind kolla here | 15:32 |
mgoddard | we have a bunch of features listed on the whiteboard | 15:32 |
mgoddard | we don't really have time to do most of them though, so it's probably more of a list for Ussuri at this point | 15:32 |
openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [neutron] Adjust neighbour table thresholds https://review.opendev.org/682664 | 15:33 |
mgoddard | we have a train release etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-train-release | 15:33 |
mgoddard | #action mgoddard to update kayobe train release etherpad | 15:34 |
mgoddard | anything to add priteau? | 15:34 |
priteau | There are many patches that we can still merge, but you're right, the priorities will have to switch to Ussuri | 15:35 |
yoctozepto | so kayobe is pretty much mgoddard, priteau, jovial and dougsz? | 15:35 |
mgoddard | mostly. we have contributions from others at times including scottsol & co | 15:36 |
yoctozepto | I see | 15:36 |
mgoddard | those are the main active cores | 15:36 |
mgoddard | room for more if anyone is interested :) | 15:36 |
mgoddard | #topic Ussuri release planning | 15:37 |
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mgoddard | Feels like we've made a good start on some features now | 15:37 |
mgoddard | centos8/py3/drop py2 in particular | 15:37 |
hrw | mgoddard: thanks for sorting out that in k-a | 15:38 |
mgoddard | no problem | 15:38 |
mgoddard | any changes in the centos8 container patch? | 15:38 |
hrw | I plan to submit something like https://review.opendev.org/695796 for k-a. | 15:38 |
patchbot | patch 695796 - kolla - test-requirements: bump pyflakes to get f-strings ... (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 15:38 |
hrw | mgoddard: no extra content yet | 15:39 |
hrw | mgoddard: centos team busy with 8.1 builds now | 15:39 |
mgoddard | hrw: what is failing in centos/source currently? | 15:39 |
mgoddard | that should be smoother than binary, in theory | 15:39 |
hrw | mgoddard: no ceph, openvswitch etc. | 15:40 |
mgoddard | hmm, OVS is an issue | 15:40 |
hrw | mgoddard: in general: check CI result. it shows nicely what fails | 15:41 |
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mgoddard | yes. easier to ask you though, and we all find out :) | 15:41 |
hrw | mgoddard: last update was to just rebase it and let CI check how it goes | 15:41 |
mgoddard | I'm just thinking, could we get a single node ansible job to pass? | 15:42 |
hrw | aio? | 15:42 |
mgoddard | possibly with some fudging | 15:42 |
mgoddard | yes | 15:42 |
hrw | no idea to be honest | 15:42 |
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mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692368/ | 15:43 |
patchbot | patch 692368 - kolla - WIP: move to CentOS 8 in containers - 21 patch sets | 15:43 |
yoctozepto | someone mentioned testing in CI https://review.opendev.org/695192 | 15:43 |
patchbot | patch 695192 - kolla-ansible - CI: Refactor a lot - 23 patch sets | 15:43 |
yoctozepto | testing, testing | 15:43 |
mgoddard | https://storage.bhs1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_30c/692368/21/check/kolla-build-centos-source/30c7c33/kolla/build/ | 15:43 |
yoctozepto | I have the card "test swift" | 15:44 |
yoctozepto | because we have a bug pending on it | 15:44 |
hrw | yoctozepto: 'a lot' is very wrong commit message | 15:44 |
yoctozepto | hrwL very accurate though | 15:44 |
mgoddard | aio blockers: fluentd, glance-base, keystone-base, kolla-toolbox, neutron-base, nova-base, nova-libvirt, openvswitch-base, rabbitmq | 15:45 |
hrw | yoctozepto: can it get split into single small changes? | 15:45 |
hrw | yoctozepto: as now it looks like a way to sneak 7 separate changes in one commit | 15:46 |
yoctozepto | hrw: it is | 15:46 |
yoctozepto | it was meant to be testing qinling | 15:46 |
yoctozepto | but it was a pain so it got refactors in | 15:46 |
yoctozepto | now they are split | 15:46 |
hrw | yoctozepto: I mean to split that one 'split from qinling' patch | 15:47 |
yoctozepto | I know | 15:47 |
yoctozepto | extra work for not much gain, what can I say | 15:48 |
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mgoddard | I would have preferred it to be split, but I have reviewed it now | 15:48 |
mgoddard | at least qinling is factored out now | 15:49 |
mgoddard | #topic Review priorities | 15:50 |
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mgoddard | Same as usual really, train targeted bugs first, ussuri priorities second | 15:50 |
mgoddard | #topic Ceph orchestrator | 15:50 |
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mgoddard | mnasiadka: you there? | 15:51 |
mnasiadka | yeah, just got to the keyboard | 15:51 |
mnasiadka | sorry for being late | 15:51 |
yoctozepto | (mgoddard, not seeing your review) | 15:51 |
mgoddard | (I reviewed before, not since your update) | 15:51 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: you had to rest from ml2 conf :-) | 15:51 |
yoctozepto | (I see) | 15:51 |
mgoddard | mnasiadka: Ceph orchestrator. Go! | 15:51 |
mnasiadka | Golang? ugh | 15:52 |
mnasiadka | So - cutting the story short - ceph-ansible's future is a bit not bright and shiny | 15:52 |
mnasiadka | What Ceph is going towards - is Ceph Orchestrator | 15:52 |
mnasiadka | so an abstraction layer between the operator/deployer and some deployment backends | 15:52 |
mnasiadka | in Octopus it will be the default deployment tool replacing ceph-deploy (and in future ceph-ansible) | 15:53 |
mgoddard | do you know which deployment backend will be recommendeD? | 15:53 |
hrw | march 2020, right? | 15:53 |
mnasiadka | So from my perspective - investing time in doing ceph-ansible integration with Kolla-Ansible is useless | 15:53 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: the 'ssh' backend will be recommended - so it streams python scripts through ssh | 15:53 |
mnasiadka | hrw: march 2020 is the plan to release Octopus, yes | 15:54 |
mnasiadka | so it more or less fits into Ussuri timelines | 15:54 |
mgoddard | is the ssh backend different from ceph-deploy? | 15:54 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: yeah, it doesn't require you to do all the pre-req jobs | 15:54 |
mnasiadka | the workflow is more or less: | 15:54 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:54 |
mnasiadka | 1) deploy 1 node ceph cluster (mon + mgr) | 15:55 |
mnasiadka | 2) enable ceph orchestrator module in mgr | 15:55 |
mnasiadka | 3) generate ssh keys and distribute them to nodes | 15:55 |
mnasiadka | 4) deploy more mons/mgrs for fully HA cluster | 15:55 |
mnasiadka | 5) scan for disks, deploy osds on them | 15:55 |
mnasiadka | (and add mds or rgw if you need them) | 15:55 |
mgoddard | 6) profit | 15:55 |
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mnasiadka | yeah | 15:56 |
mnasiadka | so now the question is - what do we want to achieve from kolla-ansible perspective going forward? | 15:56 |
mnasiadka | I would say it would make sense to polish the external ceph | 15:56 |
mnasiadka | to remove current quirks and weirdness | 15:56 |
mgoddard | +1, and remain agnostic | 15:57 |
mnasiadka | I don't know if it makes any sense to integrate k-a with ceph orchestrator - it's should be up to the user to deploy it as he wants | 15:57 |
yoctozepto | +1 mgoddard | 15:57 |
mgoddard | we don't want to get hit by changing winds again | 15:57 |
mnasiadka | so from my perspective - maybe it's time to start moving towards removing kolla-ceph - or extracting it to separate project if there are maintainers interested in continuing | 15:58 |
mgoddard | we can always add support down the line if ceph orchestrator looks like it's here to stay, but it's hard to remove it | 15:58 |
mgoddard | mnasiadka: +1 for starting that conversation at least | 15:59 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: I would probably prefer to write good docs instead of going that path... but there's still CI | 15:59 |
mnasiadka | I think we want to maintain a ceph-related CI, for all external ceph features | 15:59 |
mgoddard | yes | 15:59 |
mgoddard | I was going to ask what state your ceph-ansible patch is in | 15:59 |
mgoddard | could it be used for CI? | 15:59 |
mnasiadka | yeah, it could | 15:59 |
mnasiadka | the other option is to write a script leveraging the ceph orchestrator | 16:00 |
mnasiadka | or rework the ceph-ansible one - to be more frank | 16:00 |
mgoddard | we'd need to modify it to move the playbook to tests/ | 16:00 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: regarding splitting - it seems to correlate with the general extensibility idea | 16:00 |
mgoddard | it would be a good test case for extensibility | 16:00 |
yoctozepto | indeed | 16:00 |
mgoddard | although I see the ansible side as being a separate CLI + site.yml rather than hooking in | 16:01 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: that's not a problem - but I think I would prefer to remove the playbook (which is just an import from ceph-ansible) and add ceph orchestrator based deployment to the bash script | 16:01 |
mgoddard | mnasiadka: sounds like moar work | 16:01 |
mgoddard | it's taken quite a while to get ceph-ansible working, why not use it? | 16:01 |
mgoddard | and ceph orchestrator is still in development by the sound of it | 16:02 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix kolla_ansible python module check https://review.opendev.org/696281 | 16:02 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix 'nova_cephx_raw_key' is undefined https://review.opendev.org/695933 | 16:02 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: well, let's assume we can use it for now, I still have some $job plan to investigate ceph orchestrator - so we can move at feasible time to use it instead of ceph-ansible | 16:02 |
mgoddard | doesn't ceph orchestrator require octopus | 16:03 |
mgoddard | ? | 16:03 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: so 1) adapt current ceph-ansible change to use as CI only 2) look in future to change it to use ceph-orchestrator | 16:03 |
mgoddard | ok, makes sense | 16:03 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: it does, but RDO will build Octopus either way in Ussuri :) | 16:03 |
mgoddard | eventually yes | 16:03 |
mgoddard | anyway, we're out of time | 16:03 |
mgoddard | mnasiadka: can you kick off the conversation with openstack-discuss about ceph removal? | 16:04 |
mnasiadka | yes, will send a mail tomorrow | 16:04 |
mnasiadka | asking for contributors for extracting kolla-ceph | 16:04 |
mgoddard | maybe try to find some past committers & known users e.g. wangwei | 16:04 |
mnasiadka | should we give ourselves some deadline for answers? | 16:04 |
mnasiadka | Like end of December? | 16:04 |
mgoddard | yeah | 16:04 |
mnasiadka | ok, sounds good | 16:05 |
mgoddard | let's try to be a bit active in seeking people out though. This is a big move | 16:05 |
mnasiadka | It is, but we have sort of announced it in the beginning of Train cycle | 16:05 |
mgoddard | well we announced a supported migration path to ceph-ansible. This is not that | 16:05 |
mnasiadka | yeah | 16:06 |
mnasiadka | I'll rework the BP to deliver a CI-only implementation of ceph-ansible integration | 16:06 |
mgoddard | ok | 16:06 |
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mnasiadka | we could raise a BP around ceph orchestrator and taking over a kolla-ceph deployment | 16:06 |
mnasiadka | but I doubt I will have time to work on it in a reasonable velocity, given my $job priorities | 16:07 |
mnasiadka | I can ask in the same mail to ML if there are volunteers :) | 16:07 |
mgoddard | that would be good. | 16:07 |
mgoddard | let's call it a day | 16:07 |
mgoddard | thanks all | 16:07 |
mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:07 |
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yoctozepto | thanks | 16:07 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 27 16:07:54 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:07 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-11-27-15.01.html | 16:07 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-11-27-15.01.txt | 16:07 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-11-27-15.01.log.html | 16:07 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: what do you want to use me (k-a neutron liaison) for? :D | 16:08 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix 'nova_cephx_raw_key' is undefined https://review.opendev.org/696341 | 16:09 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Fix 'nova_cephx_raw_key' is undefined https://review.opendev.org/696342 | 16:10 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: that priteau's change but it's mostly irrelevant now | 16:11 |
mnasiadka | irrelevant change? I like these :) | 16:11 |
yoctozepto | priteau removed the "just-in-case" bits | 16:11 |
yoctozepto | irrelevant call for mnasiadka :-) | 16:11 |
yoctozepto | a relevant call is /me begging mgoddard and mnasiadka to review https://review.opendev.org/695192 :-) | 16:12 |
patchbot | patch 695192 - kolla-ansible - CI: Refactor a lot - 23 patch sets | 16:12 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Use python3 for openstack clients https://review.opendev.org/696062 | 16:14 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix hard-coded admin project name and username in blazar task https://review.opendev.org/696344 | 16:17 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Fix hard-coded admin project name and username in blazar task https://review.opendev.org/696345 | 16:17 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Fix hard-coded admin project name and username in blazar task https://review.opendev.org/696346 | 16:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add command to deploy only containers https://review.opendev.org/696121 | 17:05 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: rabbitmq: update to latest 3.7.x (+ erlang 22.x) https://review.opendev.org/695356 | 17:08 |
hrw | osmanlicilegi: for me this commit message is more informative | 17:10 |
hrw | osmanlicilegi: will update once ubuntu package builds | 17:11 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Test Swift https://review.opendev.org/696364 | 17:16 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Test Swift https://review.opendev.org/696364 | 17:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: base: do not install compiler on !x86-64 https://review.opendev.org/696370 | 17:39 |
hrw | 117MB saved | 17:39 |
hrw | 385 contra 264MB | 17:39 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Support internal API TLS encryption https://review.opendev.org/696371 | 17:40 |
hrw | 381 D: | 17:40 |
mgoddard | nice work hrw | 17:41 |
hrw | mgoddard: to be honest? I left that compiler there in february | 17:42 |
hrw | this is good backport material for train | 17:42 |
hrw | stein too iirc | 17:42 |
mgoddard | +1 | 17:42 |
mgoddard | if it builds, we do not need it | 17:42 |
hrw | even if we do not publish images | 17:42 |
mgoddard | so pretty safe backport | 17:42 |
hrw | yep | 17:43 |
hrw | I hope to move with arm64 ci in 1-2 weeks | 17:44 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Support internal API TLS encryption https://review.opendev.org/696371 | 17:45 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: rabbitmq: update to latest 3.7.x (+ erlang 22.x) https://review.opendev.org/695356 | 17:47 |
hrw | Debian and Ubuntu covered on aarch64 | 17:47 |
hrw | CentOS has to wait as we need to fix our OBS | 17:47 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: rabbitmq: update to latest 3.7.x (+ erlang 22.x) https://review.opendev.org/695356 | 17:49 |
hrw | added link to requirements into commit message | 17:49 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Support internal API TLS encryption https://review.opendev.org/696371 | 17:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Support internal API TLS encryption https://review.opendev.org/696371 | 17:56 |
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mnasiadka | hrw: 3.7 will be end of life on March 2020, maybe it's better to move to 3.8? | 18:05 |
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mnasiadka | ah, it's Dincer's change | 18:06 |
mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: ^^ - I don't know how much effort is moving to 3.8, but I think we should plan for it in U | 18:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Split out OVS/Linuxbridge agent configs from ml2_conf.ini https://review.opendev.org/695367 | 18:14 |
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sri_ | yoctozepto, https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1854194 | 18:24 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1854194 in kolla-ansible "Glance image asks for sudo password inside container " [Undecided,New] | 18:24 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, it's already proposed as 3.8 in ussuri by osmanlicilegi | 18:25 |
yoctozepto | sri_: thanks | 18:25 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well updating to latest 3.7 is also proposed in Ussuri, which one do we merge first? :D | 18:26 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: 3.7 should ideally go to train to not mix releasenotes i think | 18:26 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, np :) | 18:26 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: btw, I found the issue of the docker API timeout... have the same problem sometimes on a VM - probably docker API needs some time to answer on low cpu/memory/slow storage situations | 18:27 |
mnasiadka | I'll propose a patch to bump up the timeout in DockerClient | 18:27 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: mgoddard already did | 18:27 |
mnasiadka | (because that helps) | 18:27 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: https://review.opendev.org/696316 | 18:27 |
patchbot | patch 696316 - kolla-ansible - Support configuration of Docker client timeout - 1 patch set | 18:27 |
mnasiadka | 60 seconds is not enough, and that's what is currently in master :) | 18:27 |
yoctozepto | (are you reading me?) | 18:27 |
mnasiadka | I'm reading, 60 seconds is not enough :) | 18:29 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: mgoddard bumped to 120 seconds | 18:58 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: in CI, yes :) | 18:58 |
mnasiadka | but whatever, let's see if anybody else hits this :) | 18:58 |
yoctozepto | all right | 18:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Test Swift https://review.opendev.org/696364 | 19:00 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: kolla-ansible not too helpful for swift :D | 19:01 |
yoctozepto | so our ceph support is really golden in comparison ;p | 19:02 |
mnasiadka | swift? the role needs a major face lifting | 19:07 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, and feature upgrade | 19:08 |
yoctozepto | (but soul screams: DEPRECATE!) | 19:08 |
mnasiadka | I guess somebody uses swift... | 19:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix 'nova_cephx_raw_key' is undefined https://review.opendev.org/696341 | 19:11 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, they do and they reported it's broken in train | 19:13 |
yoctozepto | hence testing... | 19:13 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Test Swift https://review.opendev.org/696364 | 19:13 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: can't they fix it? :) | 19:13 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: you know how it is :D | 19:13 |
yoctozepto | swift is kinda openstack quasi-core | 19:14 |
yoctozepto | you even get tested on swift on the openstack admin exam | 19:14 |
mnasiadka | COA or Red Hat? ;) | 19:15 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: COA :-) | 19:25 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: haven't approached any certification for the last... 3 years at least | 19:26 |
mnasiadka | not counting The Open Group | 19:26 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: exams are fun, I like these practical ones | 19:26 |
mnasiadka | maybe | 19:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Test Swift https://review.opendev.org/696364 | 19:31 |
yoctozepto | let it fail, let it fail... | 19:32 |
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mnasiadka | I hate Jinja... | 19:35 |
mnasiadka | if you set a variable including an int variable, you get a string... and | int filter does not help at all | 19:36 |
mnasiadka | grr | 19:36 |
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yoctozepto | odd | 20:10 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Test Swift https://review.opendev.org/696364 | 20:30 |
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cosmicsound | when deploying magnum with openstack-kolla-ansible and making a new cluster | 22:13 |
cosmicsound | we hit this | 22:13 |
cosmicsound | ERROR: The Parameter (octavia_ingress_controller_tag) was not defined in template | 22:13 |
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