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_Cyclone_ | hrm, if I want to change the ml2_conf.ini would I do that by placing my change in /etc/kolla/config/neutron/plugins/ml2? I'm looking to add an additional 'physnet2' under [ml2_type_vlan] | 00:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla stable/stein: [manila] Fixes manila-share on debian/ubuntu https://review.opendev.org/693570 | 03:22 |
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cp | dougsz there is more to a BMC than just power on and power off | 06:20 |
sri_ | Good Morning folks: | 06:21 |
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cp | mgoddard: I was thinking that the VM would be the initial OpenStack deployement machine and that the Metal would be a do it all environment | 06:22 |
cp | mgoddard: but since I am learning still, I might ask you , what would be a good test environment ? which small hardware could I use for this ? | 06:23 |
cp | probably I am asking questions here that do not belong in this channel | 06:23 |
sri_ | is there any known bugs is stein , kolla-ansible pull failing with FAILED! => {"msg": "'ansible.vars.hostvars.HostVarsVars object' has no attribute u'ansible_p1p2.50'"} | 06:23 |
sri_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/786015/ | 06:23 |
osmanlicilegi | morning | 06:31 |
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yoctozepto | morning | 07:22 |
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mnasiadka | morning | 08:01 |
mnasiadka | sri_: are you sure you have p1p2.50 interface? | 08:01 |
sri_ | mnasiadka, just find out my deploy host has different network config | 08:02 |
sri_ | mnasiadka, for deployment node i've created a small vm with one nic | 08:03 |
yoctozepto | the node used to deploy is irrelevant unless it is added to the inventory | 08:03 |
mnasiadka | yeah, it shouldn't be in the inventory - unless you want to deploy openstack on it ;) | 08:03 |
sri_ | oh, maybe i miss configured, i will check :) thanks yoctozepto, markmcclain | 08:05 |
yoctozepto | cp: I think your questions belongs here the most | 08:07 |
yoctozepto | might help if you better described your goals | 08:07 |
sri_ | mnasiadka, In my deploy node I've just run the "kolla-anisble pull" but looking at the error message "Command failed ansible-playbook -i /usr/share/kolla-ansible/ansible/inventory/all-in-one" | 08:11 |
sri_ | it's look that default option for kolla-ansible pull | 08:11 |
sri_ | I am trying to create a private registry in deploy node | 08:12 |
yoctozepto | sri_: there must be some better error message than the general note that it all failed miserably :-) | 08:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Remove deprecated images https://review.opendev.org/693830 | 08:17 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, http://paste.openstack.org/show/786015/ | 08:18 |
yoctozepto | sri_: show the inventory | 08:19 |
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sri_ | yoctozepto, this is my inventory http://paste.openstack.org/show/786019/ | 08:21 |
mnasiadka | sri_: well, all-in-one deploys openstack on the server you are using kolla-ansible from | 08:22 |
mnasiadka | sri_: so if you have your own inv - you need to specify it on command like (kolla-ansible -i inventory) | 08:23 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, but when i run the kolla-ansible pull i didn't pass any inventory file so it's picks -i /usr/share/kolla-ansible/ansible/inventory/all-in-one | 08:23 |
sri_ | yes you're right, but all i was trying to do is pull the images and deploy host so that i can push this images to my private registry | 08:24 |
yoctozepto | sri_: I get you know | 08:25 |
yoctozepto | this pull is for downloading images onto the hosts being deployed | 08:25 |
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yoctozepto | if you want to create your own registry then it's out of scope | 08:25 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, understood, it's looks like i am trying archive this completely wrong | 08:25 |
yoctozepto | you either want to configure your registry as pullthrough | 08:25 |
yoctozepto | and set it for kolla ansible as the registry to use | 08:26 |
yoctozepto | or manually pull and push images | 08:26 |
yoctozepto | yeah, you misunderstood the command's action | 08:26 |
yoctozepto | no problem | 08:26 |
yoctozepto | if you think the docs are misleading or inaccurate, please let us know, we will try to fix it | 08:27 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, sure, i really appreciate your help | 08:28 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: https://review.opendev.org/691749 | 08:34 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: from one perspective if it doesn't work, we should deprecate it - from another perspective, maybe it's worth sending a message to ML claiming we want to deprecate it, unless there's somebody that wants to pick it up. | 08:36 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: and what about the cycle? it was originally planned for train but... otoh, it does not work and nobody complained so far so seems unused | 08:45 |
yoctozepto | on yet another hand, tripleo does support deploying odl | 08:46 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well, we haven't did a GA release of k-a, so I guess we could deprecate in train and remove in ussuri, but let's wait for mgoddard to decide (he should be online in the afternoon). | 08:46 |
yoctozepto | so might be wise to keep odl too, hoping someone is going to fix it :D | 08:47 |
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yoctozepto | let's wait for mgoddard indeed | 08:48 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well, I think the odl ansible role doesn't hurt us, but since we don't really care about it - then we should not be the odl image maintainers (looking at tripleo team :D) | 08:55 |
mnasiadka | maybe out-of-tree dockerfiles support would allow us to move it out :) | 08:55 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: good point | 08:58 |
yoctozepto | tripleo seems to override everything in that image so it's mostly pointless in kolla | 08:59 |
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yoctozepto | I updated today's agenda to include odl deprec | 09:05 |
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stingrayza | morning o/ | 09:18 |
hrw | morning | 09:19 |
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hrw | https://review.opendev.org/693790 waits for cores... disabled searchlight == a way to go with ussuri development | 09:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Zdenek Dvorak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Patch to fix RPC selection problem after upgrade https://review.opendev.org/693505 | 10:14 |
hrw | yoctozepto: 'hmm, the revert seems incomplete, there are still train repos?' looks wrong when there are no details | 10:15 |
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cp | yoctozepto: ok | 10:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Switch to Ussuri jobs https://review.opendev.org/694035 | 10:39 |
hrw | so we have three patches waiting to allow Ussuri development. https://review.opendev.org/694035 https://review.opendev.org/693790 https://review.opendev.org/689999 | 10:40 |
hrw | yoctozepto, mnasiadka, mgoddard: ^^ | 10:40 |
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mnasiadka | hrw: zuul doesn't like the third ;) | 11:02 |
hrw | mnasiadka: zuul dislikes congress :D | 11:08 |
mnasiadka | it's good that we are not politicians | 11:08 |
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yoctozepto | hrw: wrong? train rdo change is not fully reverted... | 11:24 |
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hrw | yoctozepto: now you are more precise | 11:51 |
hrw | anyway it has to wait - mounting ergohuman office chair has highest priority | 11:52 |
yoctozepto | +1 | 11:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "Move to RDO Train packages" https://review.opendev.org/694054 | 12:08 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "Use Train release for all OpenStack projects" https://review.opendev.org/689999 | 12:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "Use Train release for all OpenStack projects" https://review.opendev.org/694056 | 12:13 |
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sri_ | yoctozepto, quick question, the osd's are not (sudo parted /dev/sdb -s -- mklabel gpt mkpart KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP 1 -1), did i miss anything http://paste.openstack.org/show/786030/ | 12:18 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "Use Train release for all OpenStack projects" https://review.opendev.org/694056 | 12:18 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "Use Train release for all OpenStack projects" https://review.opendev.org/694056 | 12:18 |
hrw | yso you split into parts? | 12:18 |
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yoctozepto | hrw: I found the pending reverts | 12:19 |
hrw | ok | 12:19 |
yoctozepto | and split out the missing one | 12:19 |
yoctozepto | I feel your revert might just be fine but gerrit shows it really weird | 12:20 |
yoctozepto | when you inspect the contents, though, it looks all fine | 12:20 |
yoctozepto | very odd | 12:20 |
hrw | ok | 12:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Dincer Celik proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fixes the compatibility issue at HAProxy role with Ansible 2.9 https://review.opendev.org/694058 | 12:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Disable Searchlight for CentOS 7/source https://review.opendev.org/693790 | 12:41 |
hrw | ;D | 12:41 |
sri_ | yoctozepto, never mind, i missed bluestore option | 12:48 |
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hrw | yoctozepto: build with all reverts in progress | 13:03 |
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Blinkiz | yoctozepto: Hi. I do think I have solved https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1850656 . Look at my comment in that bug :-) | 13:18 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1850656 in kolla-ansible train "Deploy will fail if keystone.conf has '[oslo_policy]/enforce_scope=true'" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Radosław Piliszek (yoctozepto) | 13:18 |
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yoctozepto | hrw: g8 | 13:27 |
yoctozepto | gr8* | 13:27 |
yoctozepto | :D | 13:27 |
yoctozepto | (g8 is also good) | 13:27 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DNM: Enforce keystone oslo policy scope https://review.opendev.org/692179 | 13:29 |
yoctozepto | Blinkiz: replied | 13:30 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DNM: Enforce keystone oslo policy scope https://review.opendev.org/692179 | 13:31 |
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hrw | centos source == 285 images | 13:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Switch to Ussuri jobs https://review.opendev.org/694035 | 13:44 |
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hrw | centos binary == 236 images | 14:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Zdenek Dvorak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Patch to fix RPC selection problem after upgrade https://review.opendev.org/693505 | 14:32 |
openstackgerrit | Will Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add freezer to image build regex https://review.opendev.org/693538 | 14:33 |
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mgoddard | meeting in 10 minutes | 14:52 |
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mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne ^ | 14:53 |
hrw | ;D | 14:53 |
hrw | thx | 14:53 |
yoctozepto | hrw: https://review.opendev.org/694056 - can you quickly try ubuntu source congress? | 14:57 |
yoctozepto | wonder how it ended up with ascii... | 14:57 |
hrw | yoctozepto: will check in a moment | 14:57 |
yoctozepto | thx | 14:58 |
hrw | just have to wait for 16 threads to end | 14:58 |
yoctozepto | pkill threads | 14:58 |
yoctozepto | btw, dougsz | 14:58 |
yoctozepto | # FIXME(dszumski): Use openstack tar when infra is fixed | 14:58 |
yoctozepto | 'monasca-thresh': { | 14:58 |
yoctozepto | 'type': 'url', | 14:58 |
yoctozepto | 'location': ('https://github.com/openstack/monasca-thresh/archive/' | 14:58 |
yoctozepto | 'master.tar.gz')}, | 14:58 |
hrw | (venv3) 15:58 (7441s) hrw@puchatek:kolla$ time ~/devel/moje/docker-utils/kolla-build-images.sh ubuntu source congress | 14:58 |
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dougsz | yoctozepto: yeah, will check the status later | 14:59 |
yoctozepto | thx dougsz | 15:00 |
yoctozepto | hrw: arar | 15:02 |
yoctozepto | warning: Setting locale failed. | 15:02 |
yoctozepto | warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). | 15:02 |
hrw | mgoddard: #startmeeting? | 15:02 |
yoctozepto | would be nice | 15:02 |
hrw | #startmeeting | 15:02 |
openstack | hrw: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 15:02 |
hrw | #startmeeting Kolla | 15:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 13 15:02:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hrw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:02 |
hrw | #chair mgoddard | 15:02 |
openstack | Current chairs: hrw mgoddard | 15:02 |
yoctozepto | (paste agenda) | 15:03 |
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hrw | * Roll-call | 15:03 |
hrw | * Announcements | 15:03 |
hrw | * Review action items from last meeting | 15:03 |
hrw | * CI status | 15:03 |
hrw | * Train release planning | 15:03 |
hrw | ** Deprecate ODL deploying support https://review.opendev.org/691749 | 15:03 |
hrw | ** Kolla support matrix follow-up - known downstreams that use the image | 15:03 |
hrw | * Review priorities | 15:03 |
hrw | #topic roll-call | 15:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: Kolla)" | 15:03 | |
hrw | o/ | 15:03 |
yoctozepto | o/ | 15:03 |
mnasiadka | o/ | 15:03 |
scottsol | o/ | 15:03 |
chason | o/ | 15:03 |
yoctozepto | (reping mgoddard) | 15:03 |
mgoddard | o/ | 15:03 |
mgoddard | who's driving this thing? | 15:03 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: you are | 15:04 |
hrw | mgoddard: you | 15:04 |
mgoddard | sorry, had to take care of something. you have my full attention | 15:04 |
mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
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mgoddard | #info Kolla pvPTG last week was a great success! | 15:04 |
mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ussuri-ptg | 15:04 |
mgoddard | ^ notes from the discussions | 15:05 |
hrw | we had up to 13 people iirc | 15:05 |
mgoddard | thanks to everyone who joined in | 15:05 |
mgoddard | yep | 15:05 |
mgoddard | good turnout | 15:05 |
hrw | thanks to yoctozepto for organizing space for meeting in Białystok | 15:05 |
PrinzElvis | Hi all | 15:05 |
mgoddard | +1 | 15:05 |
mgoddard | hi PrinzElvis | 15:05 |
mgoddard | we're just having the weekly meeting right now | 15:06 |
mgoddard | #info Vote on Kolla Ussuri priorities until the end of this week | 15:06 |
mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ussuri-priorities | 15:06 |
mgoddard | These will help guide the development effort in Ussuri | 15:07 |
mgoddard | Any other announcements? | 15:07 |
hrw | 1 | 15:07 |
hrw | ops | 15:07 |
mnasiadka | so now you need to announce something hrw | 15:07 |
yoctozepto | what ops | 15:07 |
yoctozepto | devops | 15:07 |
yoctozepto | sysops | 15:07 |
mgoddard | chatops | 15:07 |
yoctozepto | let's move on | 15:08 |
mgoddard | #topic Review action items from last meeting | 15:08 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: Kolla)" | 15:08 | |
mgoddard | there were none | 15:08 |
mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:08 |
*** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: Kolla)" | 15:08 | |
yoctozepto | 100% completion success | 15:08 |
yoctozepto | (that was about actions, not CI obviously) | 15:09 |
mgoddard | I've been a little out of the loop for the last few days. How is CI looking? | 15:09 |
mgoddard | the whiteboard says GREEN | 15:09 |
mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | 15:09 |
yoctozepto | no permabreaks observed | 15:09 |
hrw | mgoddard: quite ok. ubuntu/source/congress misbehave but it looks like locale thing to check | 15:09 |
yoctozepto | yeah, this is for back to ussuri stuff | 15:10 |
yoctozepto | we need to fix ussuri and train locale again | 15:10 |
hrw | mgoddard: things may break once we merge all 'move back to master' patches but centos builds with them | 15:10 |
yoctozepto | ubuntu does not buy en_US.UTF-8 | 15:10 |
yoctozepto | will be fixed today (I guess) | 15:10 |
mgoddard | hmm, co C.UTF8 for ubuntu, en_US.UTF8 for centos? | 15:11 |
yoctozepto | I think so | 15:11 |
yoctozepto | centos8 should have C.UTF-8 too | 15:11 |
yoctozepto | so it might be train-only conditional | 15:11 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:11 |
yoctozepto | and revert on ussuri | 15:11 |
mgoddard | flip flop | 15:12 |
hrw | centos8 will not have C.UTF-8 | 15:12 |
hrw | as it is not in upstream glibc yet | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | u sure? | 15:12 |
hrw | yes | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | hmm | 15:12 |
hrw | it was in some rhel bug | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | I thought it was about 7, but ok | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | will check and then decide, fix and be done | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | :D | 15:12 |
mgoddard | ok, move on | 15:13 |
hrw | en_US.UTF-8 is safest | 15:13 |
yoctozepto | hrw: as long as it is there | 15:13 |
yoctozepto | let's move on | 15:13 |
mgoddard | #topic Train release planning | 15:13 |
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yoctozepto | (we can also install it everywhere, most natural env then) | 15:13 |
mgoddard | #info Kolla and Kolla Ansible RC1 released, stable/train branches exist | 15:13 |
yoctozepto | Train has come | 15:13 |
hrw | yay! | 15:13 |
mgoddard | #info Master branches are no longer frozen - we can start merging features again | 15:14 |
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yoctozepto | <fireworks> | 15:14 |
hrw | mgoddard: we already started | 15:14 |
mgoddard | Has anyone been through recent fixes on master and backported to stable/train? | 15:14 |
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yoctozepto | we did indeed | 15:14 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: I think I did some randomly | 15:15 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:15 |
yoctozepto | but not thoroughly | 15:15 |
mgoddard | #action mgoddard to check stable/train backports | 15:15 |
yoctozepto | Comment 20 Carlos O'Donell 2019-08-29 13:40:44 UTC | 15:15 |
yoctozepto | The C.UTF-8 locale is already in RHEL 8.0. | 15:15 |
yoctozepto | hrw: ^ | 15:15 |
hrw | o! had to miss | 15:16 |
mgoddard | otherwise, please test these RC1 releases. There will be an RC2 to follow shortly with fixes added since | 15:16 |
yoctozepto | yes, sir | 15:17 |
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yoctozepto | I plan to upgrade to train my semi-production cloud | 15:17 |
mgoddard | nice | 15:17 |
yoctozepto | and let you know how miserable it becomes | 15:17 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Make fluentd-elasticsearch configuration more robust https://review.opendev.org/661747 | 15:17 |
mgoddard | There are a couple of subtopics for this one | 15:17 |
mgoddard | #topic Deprecate ODL deploying support https://review.opendev.org/691749 | 15:18 |
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mgoddard | #link https://review.opendev.org/691749 | 15:18 |
yoctozepto | both mine | 15:18 |
yoctozepto | already had a little chat with mnasiadka | 15:18 |
yoctozepto | we can still deprecate I guess as it does not work (confirmed) | 15:18 |
mgoddard | care to summarise? | 15:18 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: according to egonzalez - there's no integration with Neutron in this (or it doesn't work) | 15:19 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: and there's no way anybody can use it | 15:19 |
yoctozepto | and we did not upgrade it | 15:19 |
yoctozepto | and nobody complained/complains | 15:19 |
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mnasiadka | And Eduardo proposed himself on IRC to deprecate :) | 15:19 |
yoctozepto | yeah, thx mnasiadka, could not have summarized that better | 15:19 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: ^^ | 15:19 |
mnasiadka | as I told yoctozepto I see two options - either we just deprecate and then remove, or we send a mail to ML asking if anybody needs this, if no answer after a week, we deprecate and remove :) | 15:20 |
mgoddard | #link | 15:20 |
mgoddard | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bugs?field.searchtext=opendaylight&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&f | 15:20 |
mgoddard | ield.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&fiel | 15:20 |
mgoddard | d.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on | 15:20 |
mgoddard | that is a little too long | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | maybe shorten | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | :D | 15:20 |
mgoddard | bugs referencing opendaylight | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | hmm, so we can close them quickly now :D | 15:21 |
mgoddard | just as an indicator of whether anyone uses it | 15:21 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: all of them are from 2018 | 15:21 |
mgoddard | people using ODL might not have upgraded to stein+ yet | 15:21 |
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mnasiadka | ok then, but it doesn't mean we have any contributor that cares for ODL | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1835735 | 15:22 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1835735 in kolla-ansible "initrunonce fails with opendaylight" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Eduardo Gonzalez (egonzalez90) | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | so it really fails with rocky | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | and we have that reported | 15:22 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:23 |
mgoddard | I guess it just means you need to deploy it yourself | 15:23 |
yoctozepto | odl is kind of orthogonal to openstack | 15:23 |
mnasiadka | well, there's the neutron-server bit that you need to configure | 15:23 |
mgoddard | so is much of what we deploy :) | 15:23 |
mgoddard | do we need to also deprecate the image? | 15:24 |
mnasiadka | but still you can use neutron-server-opendaylight and override the config | 15:24 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: tripleo uses it | 15:24 |
yoctozepto | but overrides all things | 15:24 |
mnasiadka | yeah, tripleo uses it | 15:24 |
mgoddard | but not the opendaylight image? | 15:24 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka suggested the new feature in ussuri | 15:24 |
yoctozepto | could solve the problem | 15:24 |
yoctozepto | where we support external image recipes | 15:24 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: they use both, opendaylight image and the neutron-server-opendaylight | 15:24 |
yoctozepto | or the plan minimum - stop building | 15:25 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard: override a lot, as always - but still use it | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | yeah, removing would break their jobs | 15:25 |
mgoddard | override to upgrade to a newer version? | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | yup, change repo, change packages | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | newer version | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | some internal orchestrations | 15:25 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:25 |
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mgoddard | #agreed Deprecate ODL | 15:26 |
mgoddard | #undo | 15:26 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: #agreed Deprecate ODL | 15:26 |
mgoddard | #agreed Deprecate ODL in kolla-ansible | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | mhm | 15:27 |
mgoddard | Let's move on | 15:27 |
mnasiadka | in Train or in Ussuri? :) | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | in Train | 15:27 |
mgoddard | #topic Kolla support matrix follow-up - known downstreams that use the image | 15:27 |
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yoctozepto | so I got this idea | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | to include in some places | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | some place* | 15:27 |
mnasiadka | docker label | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | a table similar to support matrix | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | three columns | 15:28 |
mnasiadka | and build a table based on the labels | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | image | k-a | ooo | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: this info is weird to have in labels but that could be next step | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | for now I would create it | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | you would review it | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | plus some tripleo guy | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | and we would have a better outlook | 15:29 |
mgoddard | what's the goal? | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | wdyt | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | to know who is affected by each image | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | e.g. odl would be now tripleo only | 15:30 |
yoctozepto | just like ovn is atm | 15:30 |
mgoddard | sounds like a reasonable idea | 15:31 |
yoctozepto | and many more k-a only | 15:31 |
mgoddard | like all these things, it could easily go stale | 15:31 |
yoctozepto | ok, i'll propose something later this week | 15:31 |
mgoddard | particularly on the tripleo side | 15:31 |
yoctozepto | that's the problem | 15:31 |
mgoddard | but hopefully changes less than the support matrix | 15:31 |
yoctozepto | still better than searching each time | 15:31 |
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mgoddard | alternative is to get consumers to document it, then link to them | 15:32 |
yoctozepto | mhm | 15:32 |
mnasiadka | Maybe let’s invite cloudnull for a meeting and discuss? | 15:32 |
mgoddard | +1 | 15:33 |
mgoddard | we should get him more involved | 15:33 |
openstackgerrit | zhulingjie proposed openstack/kolla-cli master: "Switch to official Ussuri jobs" https://review.opendev.org/694097 | 15:33 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "base: use en_US.UTF-8 locale on all distros" https://review.opendev.org/694098 | 15:33 |
mgoddard | they need to buy into the idea, otherwise it will go stale | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | +1 | 15:33 |
openstackgerrit | zhulingjie proposed openstack/kolla-cli master: Switch to official Ussuri jobs https://review.opendev.org/694097 | 15:34 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: can you get in touch with cloudnull and find a time to discuss, e.g. next week's meeting? | 15:34 |
mgoddard | he's probably still catching up after the summit | 15:34 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: ok, give me this action, please | 15:35 |
mgoddard | #action yoctozepto: to get in touch with cloudnull and find a time to discuss kolla image consumers, e.g. next week's meeting | 15:36 |
mgoddard | #topic Review priorities | 15:36 |
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mgoddard | Priority for train is still bugs | 15:36 |
mgoddard | For master, let's focus on getting it back into development mode | 15:37 |
mgoddard | And CentOS 8 | 15:37 |
yoctozepto | right-yo | 15:37 |
mgoddard | Feel free to RP+1 those patches | 15:37 |
mgoddard | Creative solutions to the py2 drop breaks images problem welcome | 15:38 |
mgoddard | In fact, let's discuss it now | 15:38 |
mgoddard | #topic Handling py2 drop | 15:38 |
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mgoddard | In 1 month, all projects are supposed to drop py2 support | 15:39 |
mgoddard | which means our images may fail to build | 15:39 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: base: generate en_US.UTF-8 locale data for Debian/Ubuntu systems https://review.opendev.org/694099 | 15:39 |
mgoddard | (on CentOS 7) | 15:39 |
mgoddard | we've already hit it with searchlight | 15:39 |
mgoddard | what options do we have to keep ourselves going, considering CentOS 8 support still looks a way off and is out of our control | 15:40 |
hrw | I think that for c7 this is how we should handle | 15:40 |
mgoddard | ? | 15:41 |
yoctozepto | this that this hrw? | 15:41 |
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mgoddard | here's one option: pin to stable/train | 15:42 |
hrw | if image fails for centos7/source then add to UNBUILDABLE and go on | 15:42 |
mgoddard | that works until we hit an image that kolla-ansible tests need | 15:42 |
hrw | once moved to c8 we revert and go | 15:42 |
hrw | mgoddard: then we mark c7 as non-voting | 15:42 |
hrw | we have to realize that c7 will just go worse and worse now | 15:43 |
yoctozepto | xD | 15:43 |
mgoddard | how about this option | 15:43 |
mgoddard | add two new images, base-centos8, openstack-base-centos8 | 15:43 |
mgoddard | these include as much as possible that builds on c8 | 15:43 |
hrw | mgoddard: not doable | 15:44 |
yoctozepto | feels clunky | 15:44 |
mgoddard | then we switch the base over to these when they build | 15:44 |
yoctozepto | hrw: why? | 15:44 |
hrw | mgoddard: want 12MB of centos8 build logs to check? | 15:44 |
mgoddard | it is clunky. the whole problem is clunky | 15:44 |
hrw | FAR FAR too many packages are missing | 15:44 |
mnasiadka | Centos builds as non voting :) | 15:44 |
hrw | unless you know where to look for (u)wsgi etc | 15:44 |
mnasiadka | We do it once and revert when ready | 15:45 |
hrw | no ceph, no several python3 packages etc | 15:45 |
mgoddard | I guess it might be hard to have distro_python_version take two values | 15:45 |
yoctozepto | non-voting then | 15:46 |
yoctozepto | what can we do | 15:46 |
hrw | mgoddard: https://review.opendev.org/692368 has a list | 15:47 |
yoctozepto | for image fixes we need in oldies cherry pick to train to test | 15:47 |
mgoddard | UNBUILDABLE is better IMO | 15:47 |
mgoddard | and non-voting in k-a when the time comes | 15:47 |
yoctozepto | at some point we will have almost everything breaking | 15:47 |
mgoddard | :( | 15:48 |
hrw | mgoddard: kolla-toolbox is UNBUILDABLE :D | 15:48 |
yoctozepto | :D | 15:48 |
mgoddard | ok. Let's keep CI green for as long as possible. Once it goes red we lose the ability to see genuine failures | 15:49 |
hrw | yep | 15:49 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Fix kolla ansible virtualenv creation on the seed https://review.opendev.org/693030 | 15:49 |
mgoddard | #topic Open discussion | 15:50 |
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mgoddard | Anyone have anything today? | 15:50 |
yoctozepto | nope | 15:50 |
hrw | nope | 15:50 |
dougsz | Any thoughts on this one? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684799/ | 15:52 |
yoctozepto | not looking, but definitely deprecate | 15:52 |
yoctozepto | :D | 15:52 |
yoctozepto | ah, this is this | 15:52 |
yoctozepto | so rmq 3.8 should solve this already | 15:53 |
scottsol | I was planning on chasing that up actually | 15:53 |
yoctozepto | if mgoddard accepts that for train, I would not mind | 15:53 |
hrw | ending in 3 | 15:53 |
dougsz | Have we upgraded RabbitMQ though | 15:53 |
hrw | 2 | 15:53 |
hrw | 1 | 15:53 |
yoctozepto | hrw: open discussion | 15:53 |
hrw | oh | 15:53 |
yoctozepto | that would be unkind | 15:53 |
hrw | sorry | 15:54 |
yoctozepto | dougsz: nope, planned for ussuri | 15:54 |
mgoddard | dougsz: we haven't upgraded RMQ. It was a discussion topic at the PTG raised by kplant, mostly to get the prometheus exporter | 15:54 |
yoctozepto | which will make this change irrelevant | 15:54 |
yoctozepto | so it's more to be in train | 15:54 |
yoctozepto | but kind of late | 15:54 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Ubuntu: use local APT mirrors if possible https://review.opendev.org/694104 | 15:54 |
mgoddard | RMQ upgrade has one vote so far | 15:55 |
hrw | rabbitmq 3.8 requires erlang upgrade | 15:55 |
yoctozepto | it's easy if we forget other arches for the moment | 15:55 |
yoctozepto | and wait for hrw to build erlang for them | 15:55 |
hrw | for centos/x86-64 there is repo. for debian/ubuntu/x86-64 iirc too. I can provide one for aarch64 probably | 15:55 |
yoctozepto | it was not upgrade in train because it was just too late | 15:56 |
yoctozepto | when the issue was really discovered and described | 15:56 |
mgoddard | does this help dougsz or scottsol? | 15:57 |
yoctozepto | immediately | 15:58 |
yoctozepto | 3.8 has the prometheus exporter they so desire | 15:58 |
mgoddard | Any other topics? | 15:58 |
mgoddard | Out of time | 15:59 |
yoctozepto | oot | 15:59 |
mgoddard | Thanks y'all | 15:59 |
mgoddard | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
yoctozepto | thanks | 15:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 13 15:59:33 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-11-13-15.02.html | 15:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-11-13-15.02.txt | 15:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-11-13-15.02.log.html | 15:59 |
hrw | thanks | 15:59 |
dougsz | Summary on the RMQ thing still not clear | 15:59 |
hrw | dougsz: provide patch which will switch to 3.8 and we will check on CI how it goes. | 16:00 |
dougsz | I think that's a bit extreme! | 16:00 |
hrw | dougsz: no. this is how you update stuff | 16:00 |
hrw | you propose patch | 16:01 |
mgoddard | hrw: not really. Patches should be tested | 16:01 |
hrw | if someone does not start with some WIP patch then we will discuss again and again | 16:01 |
hrw | I may spend time on adding aarch64 support but need buildable x86-64 patch | 16:02 |
hrw | for start it means adding 1-2 repos and bump rmq version in images | 16:02 |
hrw | half day of work including local builds | 16:03 |
mgoddard | Particularly when they involve upgrading a critical component, which is known to be sensitive to upgrades | 16:03 |
yoctozepto | my love-hate relationship with rmq suggests I should be the first to butcher it | 16:03 |
mgoddard | I think we need to see what is involved in a 3.8 upgrade first. If it involves pulling in packages from a bunch of extra repos I'm not keen | 16:03 |
hrw | mgoddard: so far it is 'we would like to update. what is your opinion' each fscking week | 16:04 |
mgoddard | hrw: that doesn't necessarily make it a good idea! | 16:04 |
hrw | from next week my answer will be "Against upgrade to 3.8 unless working patch provided" | 16:04 |
dougsz | hrw: FWIW, I am for the main part interesting in monitoring it, I don't need to upgrade it to do that | 16:04 |
hrw | kplant: ^^? | 16:05 |
hrw | I am maybe too used to providing proof-of-concept patches as a way to convince others to idea. | 16:05 |
yoctozepto | dougsz: we are already lagging a few 3.7 releases | 16:06 |
yoctozepto | breaks my glorious ipv6 support | 16:06 |
hrw | yoctozepto: not upgradable without bumping erlang. which means same work as move to 3.8 | 16:06 |
yoctozepto | so I would at least upgrade erlang FINALLY and bump to latest 3.7 | 16:06 |
yoctozepto | exactly hrw | 16:06 |
hrw | my Linaro Developer Cloud team does not ask for stein/train images so I do not have to worry much | 16:07 |
hrw | however that sounds | 16:07 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard, hrw, mnasiadka: https://review.opendev.org/691749 odl deprec | 16:07 |
yoctozepto | let's have it behind us | 16:07 |
hrw | +2 | 16:08 |
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yoctozepto | I wonder if we don't get this release note in Ussuri | 16:11 |
yoctozepto | it would be bad for clarity | 16:11 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: shouldn’t it be in stable/train? | 16:11 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: now that I look at it - it should | 16:12 |
mnasiadka | I guess you don’t want to backport this?;) | 16:12 |
yoctozepto | no need in ussuri | 16:12 |
yoctozepto | in ussuri we drop and done | 16:12 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Deprecate ODL https://review.opendev.org/694109 | 16:12 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: base: generate en_US.UTF-8 locale data for Debian/Ubuntu systems https://review.opendev.org/694099 | 16:13 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: base: generate en_US.UTF-8 locale data for Debian/Ubuntu systems https://review.opendev.org/694099 | 16:14 |
hrw | yoctozepto: you were faster D: | 16:15 |
yoctozepto | hrw: aye, sorry | 16:15 |
hrw | np | 16:15 |
yoctozepto | thought you just missed it | 16:15 |
hrw | yoctozepto: missed. | 16:15 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: need to make launchpad consider master ussuri, not train | 16:15 |
yoctozepto | hrw: ;D | 16:15 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: yeah, was thinking that | 16:16 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: please let me know how to do that | 16:16 |
yoctozepto | <lame on launchpad> | 16:16 |
hrw | yoctozepto: https://launchpad.net/kolla/+addseries probably | 16:16 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: there is a little button next to 'train series is the current focus of development.' | 16:17 |
mgoddard | hrw: we have the series already, it's just not the development focus | 16:17 |
hrw | ok | 16:17 |
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hrw | yoctozepto: planning to edit? | 16:21 |
yoctozepto | ok, I changed :D | 16:22 |
yoctozepto | all the wiser now | 16:22 |
yoctozepto | thanks mgoddard, hrw | 16:22 |
hrw | yoctozepto++ | 16:22 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: same for k-a? | 16:22 |
yoctozepto | changed both | 16:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-cli master: Switch to official Ussuri jobs https://review.opendev.org/694097 | 16:28 |
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numans_ | mgoddard, Hi. Can you please take a look at this patch when you get some time - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691507/ | 16:39 |
numans_ | thanks | 16:39 |
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timburke | yoctozepto, meet patchbot. patchbot, yoctozepto. :-) | 16:50 |
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mgoddard | numans_: hi. I'm a little busy but I'll try to get to it over the next few days | 16:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Make fluentd-elasticsearch configuration more robust https://review.opendev.org/661747 | 17:16 |
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numans_ | mgoddard, no worries. Thank you | 17:46 |
yoctozepto | hi timburke, many thanks | 17:54 |
yoctozepto | let's see | 17:55 |
yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/694099 | 17:55 |
patchbot | patch 694099 - kolla - base: generate en_US.UTF-8 locale data for Debian/... - 3 patch sets | 17:55 |
yoctozepto | :D | 17:55 |
yoctozepto | verrry nice ;-) | 17:55 |
hrw | https://review.opendev.org/632129 | 17:56 |
patchbot | patch 632129 - loci - requirements: do not remove anything from the image - 1 patch set | 17:56 |
hrw | nice | 17:56 |
hrw | bye | 17:56 |
yoctozepto | hrw: you hacking loci? | 17:59 |
hrw | yoctozepto: did | 17:59 |
hrw | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/owner:marcin.juszkiewicz%2540linaro.org+status:merged++loci | 18:00 |
hrw | bye now | 18:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Dincer Celik proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fixes the compatibility issue at HAProxy role with Ansible 2.9 https://review.opendev.org/694058 | 18:45 |
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osmanlicilegi | cores, I need your guidance. what's the proper way to decide using a 3rd party repo with kolla. are there any acceptance rules? | 19:13 |
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mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: well, for sure we don't accept fetching code from someone's personal repo - we usually favor some bigger groups that have a bigger chance of maintaining that | 19:32 |
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osmanlicilegi | mnasiadka: I'm asking this for the rabbitmq upgrade issue. on my prod environment, I'm using rabbitmq 3.8 for a long while with erlang from erlang-solutions.com repo. | 19:36 |
mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: why not packagecloud.io/rabbitmq? | 19:37 |
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mnasiadka | they package both erlang and rabbitmq-server | 19:37 |
osmanlicilegi | I remember they don't ship deb packages for erlang | 19:38 |
osmanlicilegi | let me check | 19:39 |
mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: ah yeah, but the rabbitmq guys have some erlang deb packages hosted on bintray I think | 19:40 |
mnasiadka | osmanlicilegi: https://github.com/rabbitmq/erlang-debian-package | 19:40 |
mnasiadka | usually we rely on rabbitmq/erlang from distribution repo, but if there's a good reason for not using that, I think we could change it. | 19:41 |
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osmanlicilegi | ok, I got the key points, thanks mnasiadka. I'll compare these repos and will choose the right one. | 19:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Add freezer to image build regex https://review.opendev.org/693538 | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Dincer Celik proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fixes the compatibility issue at HAProxy role with Ansible 2.9 https://review.opendev.org/694058 | 20:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Remove deprecated images https://review.opendev.org/693830 | 21:37 |
openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Custom CA certificates deployment https://review.opendev.org/686024 | 22:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Deprecate ODL https://review.opendev.org/694109 | 23:38 |
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