Wednesday, 2019-10-02

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yoctozeptomorning06:08
yoctozeptomgoddard, mnasiadka: https://review.opendev.org/672562 please reply06:08
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement IPv6 support in the control plane  https://review.opendev.org/68157306:34
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement IPv6 support in the control plane  https://review.opendev.org/68157306:57
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: monasca: add 'monasca-common' to base  https://review.opendev.org/66566207:27
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mnasiadkamorning07:46
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mgoddardmorning08:07
stingrayzamorning o/08:11
hrwelo08:21
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yoctozeptomgoddard, mnasiadka, hrw: there are valid problems without unicode: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684808/08:29
yoctozeptoI will add these to the bug report as well and rename it -  I don't really want to rerun the ton of checks we have on this08:30
yoctozeptojust to alter commit message08:30
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mnasiadkayoctozepto: those utf8 issues, are those on some distro, or on all of them?08:33
yoctozeptomnasiadka: ubuntu since it uses python3.608:35
yoctozeptounfortunately we are not testing debian atm08:35
yoctozeptosetting utf-8 fixes them08:35
yoctozeptono errors logged any more08:35
yoctozepto(which reminds me we could now fail on having errors :-) )08:36
mnasiadkageez, centos is also POSIX by default08:36
yoctozeptomnasiadka: but python2 does not care it seems08:36
yoctozeptoand it does not make it worse for centos08:37
yoctozeptonormal installs are utf-8 anyway08:37
mnasiadkayoctozepto: because python3 uses Unicode everywhere by default08:37
yoctozeptono reason to delay08:37
yoctozeptomnasiadka: well, it used ascii08:37
yoctozeptobecause it consulted locale08:37
yoctozeptoand glance ships examples in utf-8 for some reason08:38
hrwsimple - utf-8 is the encoding to use08:39
yoctozepto+308:40
mnasiadkayoctozepto: https://bugs.python.org/issue1984608:40
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: Install rsync in swift-base containers on Debian/Ubuntu  https://review.opendev.org/68610608:40
mnasiadkaseems they fixed it 3.7 :D08:41
yoctozeptomnasiadka: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0538/08:42
yoctozeptoyeah08:42
yoctozeptoand debian has it08:42
hrwmake: /usr/bin/mkdir: Command not found08:42
yoctozeptoso it will not be affected as well08:42
hrwmoronic devs using hardcoded paths...08:42
yoctozeptoeh xD08:42
yoctozeptoI still opt for changing default08:43
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/rocky: Install rsync in swift-base containers on Debian/Ubuntu  https://review.opendev.org/68610808:44
yoctozeptook, completed bug report08:44
mnasiadkawell, now that I did the research by myself - I'm fine with merging this - but let's wait for mgoddard :)08:45
mnasiadkaI just hope we don't break anything in python2 world :)08:45
mgoddardmnasiadka: it's more likely to break py3 IIUC08:46
mnasiadkawell, even Fedora 26 implemented that in python3.608:47
mnasiadkaeverybody else just seems not to care:)08:47
mgoddardI think I'm coming around to it08:48
mgoddardparticularly since the python docker image does it08:49
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/queens: Install rsync in swift-base containers on Debian/Ubuntu  https://review.opendev.org/68610908:50
mnasiadkamgoddard: that's also what convinced me :)08:50
mgoddardhttp://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=C.UTF-8&i=nope&files=&repos=08:53
mgoddardairship seems to like it08:53
hrwINFO:kolla.common.utils.fluentd:Step 10/15 : RUN ln -s /bin/mkdir /usr/bin/mkdir08:54
hrwINFO:kolla.common.utils.fluentd:Successfully tagged haerwu/debian-binary-fluentd:8.1.008:55
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Fluentd: There is available td-agent pkg for Buster  https://review.opendev.org/68599308:55
mnasiadkahrw: awesome08:57
hrwmnasiadka: mixor found it08:58
hrwhm. 7 patches in my queue. long time since I had so many ;D08:59
mnasiadkaanybody has an idea why this is failing? https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/de86814b22184fd9a68e546b539e88f5/log/primary/logs/ansible/deploy#52082 ?;-)09:07
hrw"IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/kolla/config_files/config.json'"09:08
hrweasy?09:09
mnasiadkawell, it got templated out in previous steps09:10
mgoddardmnasiadka: very weired09:10
mnasiadkaand for a reason it gets templated out only on one host09:10
mnasiadka(out of three in the control group)09:11
mnasiadkamgoddard: what is weird it doesn't happen always09:11
mnasiadkaah, previous failures on other hosts09:11
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hrwbbl09:17
mnasiadkanow the mystery is why it didn't create /etc/kolla/glance-api09:17
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mnasiadkaok, found the bastard09:23
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: Ceph-Ansible CI  https://review.opendev.org/67637609:23
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* hrw out09:50
yoctozeptomnasiadka: yeah, some issues come from "I failed earlier"09:51
yoctozeptoI hope we can get early failures soon09:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add 'db=0' to redis_connection_string  https://review.opendev.org/66859210:03
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement IPv6 support in the control plane  https://review.opendev.org/68157310:06
openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla master: Custom CA crtificates installation mechanism  https://review.opendev.org/68612110:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: debian: switch to Train binary packages  https://review.opendev.org/68590110:43
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: Ceph-Ansible CI  https://review.opendev.org/67637610:43
yoctozeptomgoddard: I can't get centos images to work with ipv6 due to issues with mariadb (multinode - seems centos connectivity over vxlan is handicapped) and rabbitmq (singlenode - old erlang)10:44
yoctozeptowill focus on ubuntu for now10:44
yoctozeptothe only remaining issue is that nodes report 0 disk space to placement which makes them rejected (no nodes available for compute) in the ceph case10:45
yoctozeptoI think we should get this in train so that we can get ppl to test this further for us10:45
yoctozeptohrw: any chance we could try this on debian in ci? (always better to write down we support debian as well)10:46
hrwyoctozepto: I was thinking of adding kolla-ansible-debian-source CI job10:47
yoctozeptohrw: continue please :-)10:47
hrw;d10:47
hrwjust have to find out how it is done for other10:48
yoctozeptohrw: if we don't publish debian images, you have to force their build10:52
yoctozeptowe should start publishing for train10:52
hrwI like that10:54
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Debian/source CI job  https://review.opendev.org/68613310:54
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Add Debian/source kolla-ansible job  https://review.opendev.org/68613410:56
hrwhope that is it proper way ;D10:56
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hrwnope11:02
hrwhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/686134/ needs help11:02
hrw"Job kolla-ansible-build-debian-source not defined"11:02
hrwbut where kolla-ansible-centos-source is defined?11:02
hrwother than in kolla-ansible11:02
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement IPv6 support in the control plane  https://review.opendev.org/68157311:04
yoctozeptohrw: ansible-build?11:04
hrwyoctozepto: was ist das?11:04
yoctozeptoexactly11:04
yoctozeptokolla-ansible-build-debian-source11:05
yoctozeptokolla-ansible-debian-source11:05
yoctozeptosee difference11:05
hrw;d11:05
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Add Debian/source kolla-ansible job  https://review.opendev.org/68613411:06
hrwthanks11:06
yoctozeptonp11:07
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yoctozeptoyou checked we publish debian images?11:07
yoctozeptootherwise it won't find any there11:08
yoctozepto;p11:08
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hrwstep by step (o babe) ok?11:10
hrwk-a setup_gate.sh script is sick11:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: monasca: add 'monasca-common' to base  https://review.opendev.org/66566211:14
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kevkoyoctozepto: Cześć Radoslaw !11:16
kevkoyoctozepto: I have something to discuss with you guys from kolla ;)11:17
hrwkevko: o, another Polish guy11:17
kevkohrw: no, I am slovak :)11:17
hrwuf.11:17
kevkohrw: but not so far :) , from High Tatras ..it is only through the hill ;-)11:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: mistral-event-engine: enable for Debian/Ubuntu  https://review.opendev.org/68594711:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/stein: Add Debian Buster Stein backports APT repository  https://review.opendev.org/68593511:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/stein: Fluentd: td-agent repository for Debian  https://review.opendev.org/68593611:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/stein: Placement: Debian pkg has migration script in different path  https://review.opendev.org/68593411:20
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Debian/source CI job  https://review.opendev.org/68613311:22
hrwyoctozepto: building images is part of setup_gate.sh11:22
mgoddardmnasiadka: now I've hit "IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/kolla/config_files/config.json"11:23
mgoddardwhat was the fix11:23
mgoddardmnasiadka: actually I think I have it11:23
mgoddardneeded delegate_to. Weird we both hit it separately11:24
mnasiadkamgoddard: well, due to an error in setting glance_api_hosts, an earlier task failed on secondary1&2 - but why placement-api failed on primary - don't ask me :D11:25
openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Horizon: fix for Debian  https://review.opendev.org/68596611:27
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Debian/source CI job  https://review.opendev.org/68613311:35
yoctozeptokevko: ahoj11:35
yoctozepto(hopefully it works on Slovaks too)11:36
hrwyoctozepto: you say in Polish, they respond in Slovak and you will mostly understand each other11:36
yoctozeptohrw: indeed what I apply on Slavs not speaking English11:37
hrwyoctozepto: does not with with Czech. too far away from each other imho11:37
yoctozeptohrw: if you speak slowly ;-)11:38
yoctozeptoand if they do too :D11:38
hrwyoctozepto: learn interslavic D:11:38
yoctozeptohrw: I think it's very niche11:38
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yoctozeptoUsers: several hundreds (2012)11:39
yoctozeptoxD11:39
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kevkoyoctozepto: but sitting with Viktor in one office :D11:40
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kplantviktor and yuriy11:41
yoctozeptomore like Mihail here11:41
yoctozeptovmixor, kevko: care to join us for today's kolla meeting? at 5 PM Warsaw time so should be the same for you :-)11:47
yoctozeptohere on this channel11:47
yoctozeptothough we have a lot to discuss for the meeting I believe11:47
hrwyou reminded me about adding to agenda11:48
hrw* Adding priorities to images at build time (I want 'openstack-base' to be built asap)11:49
hrwon 2-8 core machine it does not matter11:50
hrwon 40-200 cores it does ;D11:50
yoctozeptoasap11:51
kevkoyoctozepto: sure, will be here ;-)11:54
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix customised inventory section  https://review.opendev.org/68614111:55
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Debian/source CI job  https://review.opendev.org/68613312:01
hrwthis time enabled building of images12:01
hrwyoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685923/ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685907/12:02
hrwyoctozepto: both are easy ;d12:02
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hrwyoctozepto: https://storage.gra1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_29e/686133/4/check/kolla-ansible-debian-source/29e83b7/job-output.txt - grep for "Could not find or access" and tell my what is wrong (your change)12:07
mnasiadkamgoddard: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/683974/ - rebase it and I guess we can merge :)12:10
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mgoddardmnasiadka: ah yeah, need to push12:11
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add service-rabbitmq role  https://review.opendev.org/68397412:12
mgoddardmnasiadka: wasn't a clean rebase, so needs +2 again12:13
mnasiadkadone12:14
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Debian: publish images  https://review.opendev.org/68614312:15
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yoctozeptohrw: wat my change12:25
hrwyoctozepto: 20ab480ca541ad2c76d7bcdc57e0a076c7bf6df4 one (first reviews were based on quite old kolla-ansible code)12:26
hrwyoctozepto: thanks +2+W on patches12:27
yoctozeptohrw: no problem, nice ones (but you could always add that trailing comma)12:27
yoctozepto;D12:27
yoctozeptomy change is nice and dandy, already merged12:28
hrwyoctozepto: sure, but once I updated so it got included then CI fails ;D12:29
yoctozeptohrw: add kolla to required projects for debian job12:29
hrwok12:29
yoctozeptoto let them build properly in ansible12:29
yoctozeptoit would fail later if not for my precious change12:29
hrwthanks12:30
hrwlet's check then12:33
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Debian/source CI job  https://review.opendev.org/68613312:33
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement IPv6 support in the control plane  https://review.opendev.org/68157312:34
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hrwok. looks like I have to do local build and test deploy13:07
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: There is no Java 8 in Debian 'buster' (part 3)  https://review.opendev.org/68615013:11
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hrw+213:13
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hrw16 threads on 46core == waiting and waiting on push...13:19
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hrw36 threads make more sense13:21
hrwand as usual huge amount of time wasted waiting for openstack-base13:22
hrwwe have quite flat tree. 1st level is 'base'. then all 2nd level images start. then is waiting for 'openstack-base' to finish. then 3rd level flood and 4th level join13:23
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mgoddardhrw: and yet you add more packages to base images :D13:34
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hrwmgoddard: ?13:45
mgoddardhrw: you have made a few patches to move packages from images to lower layers13:46
mgoddardI know it's due to repeated compilation on ARM13:46
hrwmgoddard: those changes had sense ;D13:46
mgoddardbut just saying, the more you put in the base images, the longer they will take to build13:46
hrwmgoddard: sure13:47
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hrwmgoddard: still, when I have base -> single images -> openstack-base -> rest then I have to wait and wait13:48
hrwmgoddard: base -> openstack-base + single images -> rest makes cpus better used13:48
mgoddardhrw: not sure I understand13:49
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hrwmgoddard: kolla started with 40 threads. base gets built and then all 2nd level images gets added to queue. if there are more of them then threads then it is lottery will 'openstack-base' be in first set of 2nd level ones or later. Then most of 2nd levels are built and I wait for 'openstack-base' to finish. then 3rd/4th level gets added in big enough quantities to keep all threads occupied13:52
mgoddardhrw: ok, I see the problem now13:53
mgoddardhrw: so we should prioritise by number of top level images that depend on an image layer13:53
hrwby number of children images, yes13:53
mgoddardhrw: not just children, all descendents13:54
hrwyes13:54
hrwin our case children is enough13:55
mgoddardis it?13:55
mgoddardperhaps13:55
hrw1st level is base. 2nd level are openstack-base + lot of childless ones. 3rd level are singles + 2-6 children ones. 4th level are childless iirc13:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: swift-proxy-server: use Python 3 for Debian/Ubuntu  https://review.opendev.org/68590714:07
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yoctozepto<hrw> in our case children is enough14:28
yoctozeptobut it's easy to count all descendants anyway14:28
hrwyoctozepto: ok14:29
hrwopenstack_release: "hrw1002" :D14:30
hrwin other words: new deploy in progress14:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: debian: enable congress and zaqar images  https://review.opendev.org/68592314:42
hrwyay14:43
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement IPv6 support in the control plane  https://review.opendev.org/68157314:47
yoctozeptoit should pass now, final fixes for ceph (not tested it before)14:48
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mgoddardmeeting in 10 minutes14:51
hrwkevko: ^^14:52
mgoddardmgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne ^14:52
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openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: External Ceph: keys as variables  https://review.opendev.org/68503214:58
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mgoddard#startmeeting kolla15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  2 15:00:15 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'15:00
mgoddard#topic rollcall15:00
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scottsolo\15:00
hrwo/15:00
JamesBensono\15:00
yoctozeptoo/15:00
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: swift-proxy-server: use Python 3 for Debian/Ubuntu  https://review.opendev.org/68617815:02
mgoddard#topic agenda15:02
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mgoddard* Roll-call15:03
mgoddard* Announcements15:03
mgoddard** Kolla feature freeze this week15:03
mgoddard** OpenStack Train RC1s available15:03
mgoddard* Review action items from last meeting15:03
mgoddard* CI status15:03
mgoddard* Train release planning15:03
mgoddard* Review priorities15:03
mgoddard* Debian CI changes15:03
mgoddard** kolla-ansible Debian/source - https://review.opendev.org/686133 https://review.opendev.org/68613415:03
mgoddard** publishing images https://review.opendev.org/68614315:03
mgoddard* Short-term and long-term proposal for managing non-OpenStack projects Docker images (e.g. sensu case)15:03
mgoddard* Adding priorities to images at build time (I want 'openstack-base' to be built asap)15:03
mgoddard#topic announcements15:03
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generalfuzzo/15:03
mgoddard#info Kolla feature freeze this week15:04
mgoddard#info OpenStack Train RC1s available15:04
mgoddardAny others?15:04
mgoddard#topic Review action items from last meeting15:05
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mgoddardegonzalez to ask about glance-store config for tacker on openstack-discuss15:05
mgoddardI didn't see such an email15:06
mgoddardanyone else want to pick it up?15:06
yoctozeptopick up writing mail?15:06
mgoddardyes15:06
yoctozeptogeez, is that so hard :D15:06
yoctozeptopin it at me then15:07
mnasiadkao/15:07
mgoddardwell, and following up on the response15:07
mgoddardupdating that tacker review to match15:07
mgoddard#action yoctozepto to ask about glance-store config for tacker on openstack-discuss15:07
mgoddardstart with the mL15:08
mgoddard#topic CI status15:08
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mgoddard#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard15:08
mgoddardhow we looking?15:09
mgoddardonly pike is broken for kolla now, right?15:09
openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix customised inventory section  https://review.opendev.org/68614115:10
hrwand pike is just +2 away iirc15:11
mgoddardNFV scenario still broken due to tacker issues15:11
hrwjust gave +W for pike/fluentd15:11
mgoddardk15:11
mgoddardKayobe was broken, now fixed15:12
yoctozeptomostly fine15:12
mgoddardkolla-cli - ???15:12
yoctozeptono idea, low activity15:12
openstackgerritPierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix customised inventory section  https://review.opendev.org/68614115:13
mgoddardlooks green on master at least15:13
mgoddard#topic Train release planning15:14
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mgoddardAs mentioned, we're planning to enter feature freeze by the end of this week15:14
mgoddardI expect there will be some exceptions requested15:14
mgoddardwhat will our policy be?15:15
mgoddardfeatures wanting to merge to master after EOD on Friday need to request an FFE?15:15
jovial[m]strict, but fair :)15:15
hrwmgoddard: +1 for it15:16
mnasiadkaI would say normal policy :) +115:16
mgoddardI expect I'll need one for cells15:16
hrwmgoddard: and RP-1 for anything which is not train priority?15:16
yoctozepto+115:16
mgoddardhrw: yeah15:16
jovial[m]FFE?15:17
yoctozepto(exception for ipv6 pretty please)15:17
mgoddardfeature freeze exception15:17
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mgoddardwe have had some less active cores who don't attend meetings start adding +2 after feature freeze previously15:18
mnasiadkapunish them ;-)15:19
mgoddardhow can we avoid this?15:19
mgoddardemail to openstack-discuss?15:19
mgoddardpersonal email?15:19
yoctozeptopersonal I think15:19
mgoddardk15:19
mgoddard#action mgoddard to email cores about feature freeze15:19
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mgoddardI'll include openstack-discuss too15:20
mgoddardBCC cores15:20
hrwok15:20
mnasiadkamakes sense15:20
mgoddardwe probably need to find a hard freeze date15:20
yoctozeptomake it sound nice :-)15:20
yoctozeptoend of oct?15:21
mgoddardyoctozepto: of course :)15:21
mgoddardyoctozepto: that's quite a long time after FF15:21
hrwmgoddard: typical 'two weeks' then?15:21
yoctozepto:V15:21
mgoddardhrw: that sounds about right15:21
* yoctozepto remembers 'two weeks' taking 3 months15:22
mgoddardwe can revisit next week if necessary15:22
hrwthis week is 'add whatever you have', then two weeks for 'ops, bug fixes go' and then release15:22
mgoddardyeah, not planning on that again15:22
mgoddardwell remember we are still dependent on RDO15:22
mgoddardand whatever surprises they throw at us :)15:23
hrwmgoddard: what about: next meeting we review what we have in FFE/queue, next week we mark what is not going, then end15:23
mgoddardanyone know status of RDO train repos?15:23
hrwjust started centos/binary arm64 build15:23
mgoddardhrw: seems fair15:23
mgoddardFor anyone interested, we now have some docs on our release process: https://docs.openstack.org/kolla/latest/contributor/release-management.html15:24
yoctozeptoI read that once but will re-read15:25
mnasiadkamgoddard: they are working on rc1, https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:train_release15:25
yoctozeptoI want to finish ipv615:25
yoctozeptoand then help with kolla docs on the support matrix15:25
yoctozepto(kolla-ansible)15:25
yoctozeptothen could help rdo15:25
mgoddardnice15:25
mnasiadkamgoddard: and this: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:train-jobs15:25
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mgoddard#link https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:train-jobs15:26
mgoddard#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:train_release15:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe master: Fix container image build with multiple regexes  https://review.opendev.org/68150415:26
hrw36 threds on 46 cores with /var/lib/docker in tmpfs == builds which fly15:26
mgoddardok, let's move on, we have a few topics this time15:27
mgoddard#topic Review priorities15:27
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mgoddardI'm still pushing on the cells patches, but will add RP+1 once they're ready15:28
mgoddardinternal TLS has another patch ready https://review.opendev.org/66451715:29
mgoddardthey're the main priorities IIUC15:29
mgoddardKayobe has a couple of priority reviews which need looking at15:29
mgoddard#link https://tiny.cc/kayobe-review-dashboard215:29
openstackgerritPierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/stein: Fix container image build with multiple regexes  https://review.opendev.org/68618715:30
openstackgerritPierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/rocky: Fix container image build with multiple regexes  https://review.opendev.org/68618815:30
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mgoddardAs we near the end of the release, please start using RP+1 for bug fixes15:30
hrwok15:31
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mgoddard(following normal rules - ready for review)15:31
mgoddardI also wondered how many bug fixes we have sitting unreviewed15:31
mgoddardmight try searching for Closes-Bug in gerrit15:32
mgoddard#topic Debian CI changes15:32
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hrwmy stuff15:32
mgoddardkolla-ansible Debian/source - https://review.opendev.org/686133 https://review.opendev.org/68613415:32
mgoddardpublishing images https://review.opendev.org/68614315:32
mgoddardhrw: take it away15:32
hrwok.15:32
hrwso we need kolla-ansible tests for Debian images. Source one for start15:32
hrwhttps://review.opendev.org/686133 should do the job (including build of images) but fails somewhere still15:33
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hrwhelp would be nice as I was not involved in k-a CI before15:33
hrwopinions? questions?15:34
hrwhttps://review.opendev.org/686143 is to build and publish debian/source images on normal schedule. And on release to make also debian/binary ones as at that time we should have Debian binary packages available15:35
mgoddardhrw: thanks for starting it15:35
hrwmgoddard: simplifies my life ;D15:35
hrwones 686143 gets in and we publish images then 686133 may get simplified to remove build of images15:36
hrws/ones/once15:36
mgoddardright15:36
hrwopinions? questions?15:36
mgoddardit makes sense to add a deploy job for debian, given we have put work into getting images building15:37
mgoddardadditional CI load is a bit concerning, but not sure what we can do about that15:37
mgoddarda single node job isn't too much15:37
mnasiadkawell, OSA even runs Ceph jobs on single node :)15:38
mgoddardI'd definitely suggest trying a local deploy, as you commented in the review15:38
mnasiadka(but that's rather odd, than giving any results)15:38
hrwmgoddard: just finished. worked fine. arm64 3 nodes, no ceph15:38
mgoddardARM64 :)15:38
yoctozeptomnasiadka: multinode must be tested ;-)15:38
hrwmgoddard: for me it is easier to have arm64 boxes than x86 ones15:38
mgoddardhrw: x86 may be different, but hopefully it's a good sign15:39
hrwI probably can do 30+ nodes multinode15:39
mnasiadkayoctozepto: yeah, but we should maybe have one set of multimode jobs with Ceph included15:39
mgoddardhrw: did you try running init-runonce, and booting a VM etc?15:39
hrwmgoddard: it is end of deploy15:39
hrwhttp://paste.debian.net/1103748/ is my test script15:39
mgoddardok cool15:40
mgoddardcan help with CI debugging if necessary15:40
mgoddardgood opportunity to become more familiar though :)15:40
hrwwould be great15:40
mgoddardanyone else have thoughts?15:40
mgoddard#topic Short-term and long-term proposal for managing non-OpenStack projects Docker images (e.g. sensu case)15:41
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mgoddardbtw thanks hrw15:41
hrwyw15:41
mgoddardmnasiadka: I think this is you15:42
mnasiadkaYeah15:42
mnasiadkaWe have long history of images - mainly monitoring related15:42
mnasiadkathat we tend to revive when builds break15:42
mnasiadkabut we don't really check if they are usable in k-a15:42
mnasiadkasensu, prometheus, tick stack, whatever else there is15:43
mnasiadkaDo we want to continue that way?15:43
yoctozeptono15:43
yoctozeptowe want to deprecate everything15:43
yoctozepto<315:43
mnasiadkaYay!15:43
hrwbut what kind of procedure for it?15:44
mgoddardlol15:44
yoctozeptoxD15:44
yoctozeptobuild jobs in rings15:44
yoctozeptoI think 2-3 is fine15:44
yoctozeptono sense to break core builds if just sensu broke15:44
mgoddardit's not limited to monitoring - plenty of less commonly used openstack services are untested15:45
jovial[m]Can they be moved out of tree if we introduce user definable roles?15:45
mnasiadkaYeah, that's one of the options15:45
mgoddardjovial[m]: we'd need to do the same for kolla images15:45
hrwor we move them out of CI15:46
mnasiadkaI would rather propose to deprecate them in U cycle (images and roles) and  introduce user definable roles15:46
mnasiadkathen a user can use his own sensu/prometheus roles deploying some upstream sensu/prometheus images15:46
mnasiadkaand the burden of maintaining this is not on this limited team15:46
mgoddardwho would maintain it?15:47
yoctozeptocommunity15:47
hrwyoctozepto: who?15:47
yoctozeptoothers15:47
yoctozeptonot us15:47
mgoddardit needs an owner15:47
mnasiadkawell, user definable roles needs an owner in Kolla15:48
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mnasiadkaif we introduce some framework, with which you can use your own home-baked role and images15:48
mnasiadka(probably following our role structure and variables)15:49
hrwthis, that... can we start simple? drop whatever extras from CI will make life easier15:49
hrwwhatever is not in CI == community15:49
mnasiadkaand we stop building those?15:49
mnasiadkabut keep them in tree?15:49
yoctozeptonot stop15:50
yoctozeptobut from another job15:50
hrwiirc periodic build push what it built15:50
yoctozeptoonly periodic15:50
mgoddardwhat if we look at it from the perspective of the support matrix?15:50
yoctozeptoindeed mgoddard15:50
mgoddardwe have started to define what is supported, and what is community maintained15:50
yoctozeptoinclude my comment regarding categorization15:50
yoctozeptoand we can get there pretty quickly15:50
mgoddardsupported and tested is currently based on kolla ansible CI15:50
yoctozeptoregarding what goes where15:50
mgoddardbut we could extend to what we gate on in kolla15:51
mgoddardI'm rephrasing yoctozepto here I realise15:51
yoctozeptono problem15:51
mgoddardI know it's annoying having a load of untested code, but we do see people using things we don't realise15:51
mgoddardand it's one of the great parts of the kolla project - it has a huge range of support15:52
mgoddardwe've started to set expectations via the matrix15:52
mgoddardit would be a shame to just discard everything that is not tested15:53
mnasiadkawell, it's fine that it is that way - but in the end we just fix things we think nobody uses :)15:53
mnasiadkaand we just fix them to make the train go to next station15:53
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mnasiadkabut maybe I'm just complaining :)15:54
mgoddardyes :p15:54
mgoddardthe thankless job of open source maintenance15:54
mnasiadkahaha15:54
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yoctozeptodiscard is a no-no15:55
mgoddardwe have a few ideas being tossed around here15:55
mgoddard1. deprecate and eventually remove some images/roles15:55
mgoddard2. extensible framework for images/roles15:55
yoctozeptothat "deprecate everything" was a joke though ;p15:55
mgoddarddespite my negativity, I'm +1 for both15:55
mnasiadkayoctozepto: first we need to deprecate mariadb :)15:56
yoctozeptoexactly15:56
hrwno15:56
yoctozeptoguys15:56
hrwwe need to remove "base" - no one is using it15:56
yoctozeptolong-term / short-term15:56
yoctozeptolet's focus on short-term for a moment15:56
mgoddardon 1, let's not make sweeping deprecations, but analyse which images we can drop15:56
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yoctozeptoI think we need to separate "other" images from "core"15:56
mgoddardusing our matrix as a guide15:56
hrwshortterm? limit CI list15:56
mgoddardoh yes15:56
yoctozeptoso that we can keep periodic churning15:56
hrwwhatever is not on CI == community.15:57
yoctozeptoespecially now15:57
mgoddard3. define categories of gating + non-gating images15:57
hrwand periodic building everything15:57
yoctozeptowhen we build and publish at once15:57
yoctozeptoand lose everything due to sensu15:57
yoctozeptosensu-client in fact15:57
yoctozeptobeing unable to build15:57
yoctozeptolol15:57
mnasiadkamgoddard: yeah, 3. is probably best to achieve in short-term15:57
yoctozeptodefine and act upon15:57
mgoddardthese are all things we could look at during Ussuri15:58
mgoddardI think we have enough to be getting on with for Train15:58
yoctozeptounfortunately yes15:59
mnasiadkafortunately everything is fixed :)15:59
yoctozeptoI am afraid :-(15:59
mgoddarddo we need to start tracking potential work for U somewhere?15:59
yoctozeptoyup, I think so15:59
mnasiadkamgoddard: let's open a ptg planning ether pad?16:00
yoctozeptohigh time16:00
mgoddardwow, positive response16:00
mnasiadkawe have features that have been postponed, some pain points identified - there is enough material to gather for ptg :)16:00
hrwanyone going to ptg?16:01
mgoddard#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ussuri-ptg16:02
mnasiadkaShanghai? me not16:02
mgoddardI'll populate it16:03
mnasiadkaMaybe let's organise PTG in Poland :)16:03
hrwbtw - do we support cinder on nfs?16:03
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yoctozeptoyeah, PTG in Poland :D16:04
mnasiadkahrw: there is that option in globals.yml...16:04
hrwmnasiadka: D:16:04
hrwyoctozepto: that's not stupid idea16:05
hrwyoctozepto: can you arrange a room at uni?16:05
mgoddardok, we're over time16:06
mgoddardhrw: mind if we push your last topic to next week?16:06
hrwmgoddard: no problem16:06
mgoddardk16:07
yoctozeptohrw: yeah, that's doable - we could organize a little event for students too16:07
mgoddardthanks everyone16:07
mgoddard#endmeeting16:07
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hrwthanks16:07
yoctozeptothough you would have to pay for your travel and lodgings though16:07
yoctozeptobut rooms and cookies can be offered I guess ;-)16:08
hrwyoctozepto: usually place to discuss is most expensive part16:08
mnasiadkayeah, unless you're organising an event in Norway or Switzerland :)16:08
mnasiadka(still place is most expensive though)16:08
hrwmnasiadka: Białystok is rather cheap16:08
yoctozeptomnasiadka: indeed16:09
yoctozeptohrw: true16:09
mnasiadkahrw: anywhere in Poland is cheap16:09
yoctozeptobut it's green16:09
yoctozeptothough obviously not so much in winter16:09
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yoctozeptowhich is coming fast :<16:09
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mnasiadkahaha16:10
hrwhttps://www.booking.com/hotel/pl/apartamenty-vip-bialystok.pl.html is 386 pln (~80EUR, ~1000GBP) for 4 nights16:11
hrwetc16:11
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yoctozeptoyou could get cheaper but that's a nice offer16:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/pike: Fix fluentd image  https://review.opendev.org/68590816:15
openstackgerritWill Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support customizing prometheus.cfg files  https://review.opendev.org/68620516:15
openstackgerritJames Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for self-signed SSL certificates and TLS CI scenario  https://review.opendev.org/66451716:20
mgoddardmnasiadka: just had a thought - we could use kolla build profiles to define support16:20
mgoddardcombine with unbuildable images lists to generate the support matrix16:20
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mgoddardlol, kolla IRC meeting seems to be the most active time for kolla reviews16:23
hrwmgoddard: anything to not discuss with you ;d16:25
mgoddardI know :(16:26
hrwmgoddard: https://review.opendev.org/686178 - please abandon16:26
mgoddardok16:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/stein: Bump up version for magnum stein to 8.1.0  https://review.opendev.org/68595916:30
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mgoddardwoop, have console proxy working in multiple cells16:44
yoctozepto<clap> <clap>16:48
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Copy Nova role as a basis for the Nova cell role  https://review.opendev.org/67565817:08
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Factor out nova-cell role  https://review.opendev.org/67565917:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe stable/rocky: Add alternative tenks deploy and teardown entrypoints.  https://review.opendev.org/68317617:15
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openstackgerritMichal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: Ceph-Ansible CI  https://review.opendev.org/67637617:28
mnasiadkamgoddard: yeah, could make sense17:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kayobe master: CI: Remove rocky pin from molecule requirements  https://review.opendev.org/68168917:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Fluentd: There is available td-agent pkg for Buster  https://review.opendev.org/68599317:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/stein: There is no Java 8 in Debian 'buster' (part 3)  https://review.opendev.org/68615017:51
openstackgerritJames Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DNM: Always enable TLS in CI  https://review.opendev.org/68497817:58
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dswebbhi all, in the bootstrap_nova container, where does it get it's connection details for mysql when it does the nova-manage db sync?18:30
dswebbis it /etc/nova/nova.conf?18:34
noxoidyes but ive also seen nova-manage need valid credentials for each cells database. those are located in the nova api database18:38
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement IPv6 support in the control plane  https://review.opendev.org/68157318:38
noxoidnova_api.cell_mappings table18:41
dswebbI've got a weird artifact of a previous install where nova for some reason is trying to connect to an outdated fqdn18:42
dswebbso nova-manage is trying to use that old fqdn and is failing18:44
noxoidyea i would definitely check that table. i had nova try to connect to old values when i was migrating one of my kolla interfaces to a different vlan18:44
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dswebbaah, there is it18:44
dswebbaah, there is it is18:44
dswebbperfect, thank you so much18:45
noxoidno problem. spent a good chunk of my time on a very similar issue18:45
yoctozeptomgoddard: you probably know why we are deploying wsgi config for e.g. keystone and cinder APIs, yet not for nova nor neutron, please reply when you are around18:45
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openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Neutron: Added option to force legacy iptables in neutron_openvswitch_agent  https://review.opendev.org/68596719:04
openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Neutron: Added option to force legacy iptables in neutron_openvswitch_agent  https://review.opendev.org/68596719:04
egonzalezmgoddard yoctozepto I did ask tacker team regarding glance, only file type is tested. Need to do some tests if need nfs or not in HA deployments and update the review19:06
egonzalezcan me merged as it is to unlock the gate job19:06
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Shadowphaxhey all, i've rebuilt a service ( horizon ) container. Next would be to 'kolla-ansible pull' so the new container gets pulled to the controllers and then how does the new container image get applied ?19:15
Shadowphaxi think my confusion comes along the lines of the openstack_release version defined in the globals.ym19:16
Shadowphaxand potentially the kolla-build.conf19:16
kplantafter your pull - do a deploy19:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add service-rabbitmq role  https://review.opendev.org/68397419:58
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Shadowphaxkplant: thanks20:05
Shadowphaxmore trying to wrap my head around versioning of containers. So should I just rebuild the container with the same tag as all the other containers and ship that out ?20:06
Shadowphax( which includes my customizations )20:06
Shadowphaxreason I asking is because it does not mention anything about cutting a release of a rebuilt container.20:07
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openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Neutron: Added loading ip6_tables kernel module  https://review.opendev.org/68596520:11
openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla master: Neutron: add support to use legacy iptables  https://review.opendev.org/68367920:17
openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Neutron: Added option to force legacy iptables in neutron_openvswitch_agent  https://review.opendev.org/68596720:18
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openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla master: Horizon: change location of policy files in Debian  https://review.opendev.org/68631623:38
openstackgerritViktor Michalek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Horizon: fix for Debian  https://review.opendev.org/68596623:42

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