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| yoctozepto | Hello! I have a question regarding documentation and wonder whether this is the right place to ask it. Anyways, here I go: there are two "sources" of documentation for kolla (or actually kolla-ansible): https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/kolla-ansible/stein/quickstart.html and https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/stein/user/quickstart.html - and while the former has newer date, the version tag seems much ol | 06:44 |
| yoctozepto | The same goes for "latest" tag. | 06:45 |
| yoctozepto | And the question is which of these docs is the right one. | 06:45 |
| yoctozepto | As both seem to be updated. | 06:46 |
| yoctozepto | And they seem to be linked randomly from other places in OpenStack docs. | 06:46 |
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| egonzalez | yoctozepto both are up to date, kolla is for image building and kolla-ansible for deploying openstack | 07:52 |
| gregoryo | egonzalez, Both of those links have kolla-ansible in their URL and on the page. | 07:53 |
| yoctozepto | egonzalez, but these are both for kolla-ansible, I am aware of the difference between deliverables | 07:53 |
| egonzalez | oo right, didnt check the url properly | 07:53 |
| egonzalez | deply-guide is built from same docs as the other guide | 07:54 |
| egonzalez | is just a different layout and build process, but code is the same | 07:54 |
| yoctozepto | not only layout differs | 07:54 |
| gregoryo | Anyway home time for me, thanks for spotting yoctozepto it probably would have bitten me at some point. | 07:55 |
| egonzalez | and a few less docs, only the deploy part wihtout much configuration | 07:55 |
| yoctozepto | you are welcome, gregoryo | 07:56 |
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| yoctozepto | yes, less and different, seems like separate source base is used here | 07:56 |
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| egonzalez | deploy-guide only have 2 source files, multinode and quickstart , both are the same as normal docs ../../doc/source/user/multinode.rst | 07:57 |
| fillmore_ | Which version of kolla-openstack's ovs-dpdk is functional? | 07:58 |
| egonzalez | version seems incorrect tho Kolla-ansible 0.1 | 07:58 |
| yoctozepto | egonzalez, but they differ in content, can't be the same files, unless someone did it on purpose which does not really make sense | 07:58 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, the version is bad too | 07:58 |
| egonzalez | files are the same ../../doc/source/user/multinode.rst | 07:58 |
| egonzalez | or should be at least, chason may help with this maybe | 07:58 |
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| yoctozepto | egonzalez, btw, where are you looking at that tells you these are the same? | 07:59 |
| yoctozepto | I am new to docs generation | 07:59 |
| egonzalez | https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/deploy-guide/source/multinode.rst | 08:00 |
| yoctozepto | I compare the rendered view using my eyes :D | 08:00 |
| yoctozepto | thanks | 08:00 |
| chason | yoctozepto Hey,what can I help you? | 08:00 |
| egonzalez | thats the source files used, which are an include from normal docd | 08:00 |
| yoctozepto | hi chason, egonzalez mentioned you could be able to help with this docs discrepancy | 08:01 |
| yoctozepto | https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/kolla-ansible/stein/quickstart.html | 08:01 |
| yoctozepto | https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/stein/user/quickstart.html | 08:01 |
| yoctozepto | look different - but logic suggests they should be the same | 08:01 |
| yoctozepto | as well as files mentioned by egonzalez above | 08:01 |
| egonzalez | maybe something different in the conf | 08:02 |
| egonzalez | .py | 08:02 |
| egonzalez | maybe the job failed, is not updated for a while deploy guide site | 08:03 |
| yoctozepto | might be, but that is made less likely by the date statement | 08:04 |
| yoctozepto | so many questions, so few answers! | 08:04 |
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| mnasiadka | morning | 08:06 |
| egonzalez | going to a meeting, will take a look later at that | 08:06 |
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| chason | yoctozepto checking | 08:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla master: Ceph: Update to Nautilus on CentOS and OracleLinux https://review.opendev.org/657989 | 08:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla master: Ceph: Update to Nautilus on CentOS and OracleLinux https://review.opendev.org/657989 | 08:48 |
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| mgoddard | klindgren: good catch on import_tasks vs. include_tasks. I'd certainly be interested to see benchmarks from your environment comparing the two. There are probably times where we won't be able to switch, but in the majority of cases I expect we will be able to | 09:08 |
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| mgoddard | klindgren: a trade-off to consider - import_* the tasks exist, even if they are skipped. With include_role, tasks are never added if the include is skipped | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla master: Use td-agent-gem to install fluentd monasca plugin on ubuntu https://review.opendev.org/660953 | 09:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: Add CI trigger for ceph jobs https://review.opendev.org/660954 | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/rocky: Add CI trigger for ceph jobs https://review.opendev.org/660955 | 09:33 |
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| mgoddard | TIL about the deploy guide :) | 09:55 |
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| hrw | morning | 09:56 |
| hrw | mgoddard: sorry about yesterday's meeting | 09:56 |
| mgoddard | The TripleO link in https://docs.openstack.org/stein/deploy/ just links to the TripleO docs. Maybe we should do the same, since our docs are more complete | 09:57 |
| mgoddard | egonzalez: chason, yoctozepto: ^ | 09:57 |
| mgoddard | I agree there are discrepancies between those guides. Looks like the project deploy guide has not been updated | 09:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Zijian Guo proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for ceilometer custom pipeline.yaml https://review.opendev.org/660617 | 09:58 |
| chason | mgoddard If we link to the index of kolla docs, people could not find the deployment guide directly. :) | 10:01 |
| yoctozepto | hi mgoddard | 10:02 |
| yoctozepto | chason, but it can be linked to deployment directly | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Tiny fix of quickstart guide https://review.opendev.org/660963 | 10:02 |
| yoctozepto | the old docs be gone | 10:02 |
| yoctozepto | less head scratching ;-) | 10:03 |
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| chason | mgoddard Let's merged this patch and test whether it will be updated. ^^ | 10:03 |
| yoctozepto | it is pretty odd, the date is more recent than in the main docs, yet the content seems much off | 10:04 |
| chason | yoctozepto That's what we do now. | 10:04 |
| yoctozepto | dropping the distinction is the cleanest way to achieve peace of mind | 10:05 |
| mgoddard | http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=build-openstack-deploy-guide | 10:05 |
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| yoctozepto | chason hmm, nope? you have two separate docs. I meant what mgoddard mentioned about tripleo that they link to their main docs, section deployment | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix the incorrect "ref" tag https://review.opendev.org/660965 | 10:11 |
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| hrw | wow. rebooted laptop, docker started and half of containers is restarting | 10:24 |
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| hrw | no ip. ok. now only two ;d | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix the incorrect "ref" tag https://review.opendev.org/660965 | 10:36 |
| chason | http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=build-openstack-deploy-guide | 10:37 |
| chason | hrw sounds like a disaster :P | 10:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Fix format file message field https://review.opendev.org/660974 | 10:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/rocky: Add CI trigger for ceph jobs https://review.opendev.org/660955 | 11:06 |
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| mgoddard | mnasiadka: looks like you fixed the ceph issue in CI - what was it? | 11:15 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: have no clue, it just started to work :) | 11:16 |
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| hrw | 8c34ffa6fa16 gossamer.lan:2000/py3/ubuntu-source-placement-api:8.1.0 "dumb-init --single-…" 10 minutes ago Restarting (1) 6 seconds ago placement_api | 11:23 |
| hrw | ;( | 11:23 |
| hrw | + exec /usr/sbin/apache2 -DFOREGROUND | 11:23 |
| hrw | apache2: Syntax error on line 80 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: DefaultRuntimeDir must be a valid directory, absolute or relative to ServerRoot | 11:23 |
| hrw | RGH | 11:23 |
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| lvdombrkr | hello all | 11:30 |
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| hrw | rebuilding placement-api again ;( | 11:31 |
| lvdombrkr | its is possible install dhcp server in openstack isntance? | 11:31 |
| lvdombrkr | i installed it | 11:31 |
| lvdombrkr | disabled port-security | 11:31 |
| lvdombrkr | but dhcp server not working as expectdd | 11:31 |
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| lvdombrkr | server sendind dhcp offer but no receicing answer | 11:32 |
| lvdombrkr | May 21 21:45:08 foreman puppet-agent[24472]: Finished catalog run in 0.11 seconds May 21 21:45:29 foreman dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 0c:c4:7a:34:92:92 via eth0 May 21 21:45:30 foreman dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.1.2.214 to 0c:c4:7a:34:92:92 via eth0 May 21 21:45:34 foreman dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 0c:c4:7a:34:92:92 via eth0 May 21 21:45:34 foreman dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.1.2.214 to 0c:c4:7a:34:92:92 via eth0 May 21 21:45:42 forema | 11:32 |
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| kplant | i _think_ neutron has an anti-dhcp spoofing rule | 11:40 |
| lvdombrkr | kplant : hi | 11:40 |
| lvdombrkr | i disabled port-security | 11:41 |
| lvdombrkr | at all | 11:41 |
| kplant | i would still check iptables and make sure ports 67 and 68 don't have drop rules | 11:41 |
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| kplant | mine has them: DROP udp -- anywhere anywhere udp spt:bootps dpt:bootpc /* Prevent DHCP Spoofing by VM. */ | 11:43 |
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| lvdombrkr | kplant: no trafic droped on this rules http://oneclickpaste.com/7568/ | 11:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla master: Ceph: Update to Nautilus on CentOS and OracleLinux https://review.opendev.org/657989 | 11:49 |
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| kplant | hmmmmm | 11:52 |
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| kplant | do you have another instance on the same l2 domain? | 11:52 |
| kplant | actually that wouldn't help, the daemon is seeing the discovers | 11:53 |
| lvdombrkr | kplant: yes | 11:53 |
| lvdombrkr | extacylu] | 11:53 |
| lvdombrkr | its seeing discovers | 11:53 |
| lvdombrkr | its most interesting | 11:53 |
| lvdombrkr | that its see dicovers' | 11:53 |
| lvdombrkr | gives offer | 11:53 |
| kplant | can you run tcpdump on the machine that's trying to get an address via dhcp? | 11:54 |
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| kplant | and see if the offers are at least visible to that instance | 11:54 |
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| lvdombrkr | kplant: unfortunately not, there is no OS installed | 11:55 |
| hrw | fixed! | 11:55 |
| kplant | okay, so i assume you're trying to pxe | 11:55 |
| kplant | can you drop a test instance on the same l2 domain and try to dhcp from it? | 11:55 |
| kplant | get tcpdump and dhclient running and see what's happening | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: placement-api: create missing directory on Debian/Ubuntu https://review.opendev.org/660981 | 11:58 |
| hrw | mgoddard, mnasiadka, other cores: ^^ | 11:58 |
| hrw | with this change in I can deploy py3 ubuntu/source images and create an instance | 11:58 |
| mnasiadka | interesting that it did not fail the ubuntu CI tests in the past ;) | 11:59 |
| hrw | yep | 12:00 |
| lvdombrkr | kplant: so run instanca in same L2, and run dhclient with tcpdump same time? | 12:02 |
| kplant | yep | 12:03 |
| kplant | make sure that instance can see the offer | 12:03 |
| kplant | that will at least tell you where the problem lies | 12:03 |
| kplant | since you know the discovery is being received and replied to | 12:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Debian/Ubuntu: move to Python 3 for binary/source images https://review.opendev.org/642375 | 12:06 |
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| hrw | added depends on placement change. will see does it pass | 12:06 |
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| lvdombrkr | kplant : will do now, thanks | 12:11 |
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| hrw | qinling-base ;( | 12:49 |
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| mgoddard | hrw: not working on debian? | 12:51 |
| hrw | not py3 | 12:51 |
| mgoddard | ah | 12:51 |
| hrw | http://logs.openstack.org/75/642375/23/check/kolla-build-ubuntu-source/280dece/logs/build/000_FAILED_qinling-base.txt.gz | 12:51 |
| mgoddard | hrw: goldyfruit is the one to bug | 12:52 |
| mgoddard | hrw: skip it for now | 12:52 |
| hrw | their setup.cfg probably is not us-ascii | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla master: Bump Monasca Fluentd plugin version https://review.opendev.org/660988 | 12:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Set log message field name in Monasca Fluentd plugin https://review.opendev.org/660990 | 13:00 |
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| hrw | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006544.html | 13:28 |
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| noVNC | hi everyone | 13:39 |
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| hrw | ok. placement-api fix applies to horizon too... | 13:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: create missing apache2 directory on Debian/Ubuntu https://review.opendev.org/660981 | 13:44 |
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| yoctozepto | chason http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=build-openstack-deploy-guide&project=openstack%2Fkolla-ansible - you mean the latest 3 failed? | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla stable/rocky: Bump Monasca Fluentd plugin version https://review.opendev.org/661016 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Set log message field name in Monasca Fluentd plugin https://review.opendev.org/661018 | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: Bump Monasca Fluentd plugin version https://review.opendev.org/661021 | 14:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Set log message field name in Monasca Fluentd plugin https://review.opendev.org/661025 | 14:55 |
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| hrw | ok, horizon rebuild. lets ./_all.sh | 15:30 |
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| hrw | _all.sh == sudo, k-a {destroy, bootstrap-servers, prechecks, deploy, post-deploy, check}, source adminrc.sh, init-runonce, new instance | 15:31 |
| hrw | YES!!! | 15:42 |
| hrw | deployed, all services run, instance created | 15:42 |
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| mgoddard | no great work hrw \o/ | 16:13 |
| hrw | tomorrow have to do same on aarch64 | 16:13 |
| hrw | mgoddard: we still depend on other projects to make it happen | 16:14 |
| hrw | mgoddard: PBR has a fix for utf-8 in README files. Qinling has a fix for their README to make is us-ascii. | 16:14 |
| hrw | then we may succeed with build and deploy on CI | 16:15 |
| hrw | which means LGTM | 16:15 |
| hrw | then we need ansible update to make Debian work | 16:15 |
| hrw | once Debian works we add aarch64 CI machine | 16:15 |
| mgoddard | hrw: can you add those blockers to the whiteboard? | 16:16 |
| hrw | sure | 16:16 |
| mgoddard | thanks | 16:16 |
| hrw | just did in Jira ;D | 16:16 |
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| michaelbarkdoll | Hi, I'm trying to multinode deploy with ceph support, but `docker exec ceph_mod ceph -s` is showing HEALTH_WARN Reduced data availability after successful deployment. The Ceph Cluster shows 3 monitor daemons, active mgr (two standby), however, osd: 0 osds: 0 up, 0 in and pools: 4 pools, 32 pgs later shows 0B / 0B available. To me it seems that the OSD didn't get added properly? I have run `parted /dev/sdb -s -- m | 16:24 |
| michaelbarkdoll | on each of the disks on the three storage nodes prior to deployment | 16:24 |
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| michaelbarkdoll | Beyond, marking enable_ceph: "yes" and enable_cinder: "yes" and marking ceph storage disks with `parted /dev/sdX -s -- mklabel gpt mkpart KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP 1 -1` and adjusting multinode inventory that have the storage nodes in the [storage] group am I missing any steps? | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marek Svensson proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add missing timezone mount for watcher (apscheduler). https://review.opendev.org/661068 | 18:02 |
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| michaelbarkdoll | Hi, I'm getting a warning on: TASK [ceph : Pushing Ceph keyring for OSDs] | 18:12 |
| michaelbarkdoll | changed: [storage2] => (item={u'content': u'eJyLTs7JTM0r0UtMyc3Mi+XizE6tVLBVcAx0LjdJjUoOSTU2dg9ydIxKLC0ICPMNSzUOcwsLCTb2MAtwLgu0teXiTCzNTAFqMODiTE4sKFbITSkG8pQSc3Lyy5VgYulFcDEFLbhofh4W0fziFBRRADSmLxA=', u'sha1': u'ccf71da2bf2914ef66b4f2e83ca7a69b4d9444a3', u'filename': u'ceph.client.admin.keyring'}) | 18:12 |
| michaelbarkdoll | [WARNING]: The value 384 (type int) in a string field was converted to u'384' (type string). If this does not look like what you expect, quote the entire value to ensure it does not change. | 18:12 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Would this break the Ceph Deployment? | 18:12 |
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| michaelbarkdoll | Can anyone help me figure out what is wrong with my ceph deployment? I'm not getting any errors during deployment but my OSD are not coming up | 18:36 |
| ivve | michaelbarkdoll: ceph needs the key for each osd or else cephx will deny access to it | 18:38 |
| kplant | michaelbarkdoll: on one of your storage nodes.. do a parted -l | 18:38 |
| kplant | do you see your labels still? | 18:39 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Yes, KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP | 18:39 |
| kplant | that's the problem | 18:39 |
| kplant | it made zero osds | 18:39 |
| michaelbarkdoll | I don't understand why if it does error | 18:40 |
| michaelbarkdoll | doesnt* | 18:40 |
| kplant | it doesn't error because it's making zero osds successfully | 18:40 |
| kplant | so it just passes the task as a no-change | 18:40 |
| ivve | ceph in docker and even k8s.. never understood the value :) | 18:41 |
| ivve | for testing purposes i guess its ok | 18:42 |
| kplant | personally i use ceph-ansible | 18:42 |
| ivve | yea | 18:42 |
| kplant | i'm not a fan of the way kolla-ansible does ceph | 18:42 |
| ivve | ceph-ansible or ceph-deploy | 18:42 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Is the documentation on external ceph decent? | 18:43 |
| kplant | the labels was a nice idea but you could do the same with host_vars and ceph-ansible | 18:43 |
| ivve | too much of a ceph control freak to do it any other way | 18:43 |
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| ivve | michaelbarkdoll: its good imo | 18:43 |
| kplant | michaelbarkdoll: yes the kolla external ceph documentation is pretty near perfect | 18:43 |
| kplant | if you follow it, it will work | 18:43 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Ok, i have a ceph-deploy cluster from another cloud maybe I'll make one and try it then | 18:43 |
| kplant | i wrote myself a crappy playbook to copy the ceph config and keyrings into /etc/kolla/config/<blah> | 18:44 |
| kplant | i take the output from ceph-ansible fetch/ | 18:44 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Well, the keyrings are there... | 18:44 |
| ivve | ceph can take a really hard beating, but im always very careful with my clusters anyways and i really like the control. plus it give a good understanding of ceph | 18:44 |
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| kplant | i think kolla just needs to call ceph-ansible as a role :-) | 18:45 |
| kplant | you can even jam them in as containers | 18:45 |
| ivve | and deploying additional nodes or more disk with ceph-deploy is quite easy as well | 18:45 |
| ivve | yea either ceph-ansible or use ceph-deploy (or even ceph bins directly) | 18:46 |
| michaelbarkdoll | kplant is that playbook on github anywhere? | 18:46 |
| kplant | no because it's awful | 18:46 |
| kplant | and i don't want to poison other people | 18:46 |
| ivve | :) | 18:46 |
| ivve | but i guess since the work is already done, ceph-ansible would be the best way to do it | 18:46 |
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| kplant | ivve: i agree | 18:48 |
| kplant | that's what tripleo and osa do | 18:48 |
| kplant | ceph-ansible is really good at what it does, kolla-ansible is really good at deploying openstack | 18:48 |
| ivve | i've look into it and it handles error too, doesn't it? | 18:48 |
| michaelbarkdoll | sigh, was hoping to have this all figured this week. Guess I get to dig into ceph again :) | 18:49 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Is kolla better than OSA? | 18:49 |
| michaelbarkdoll | I tried OSA a long time ago never could get more than all-in-one to deploy | 18:49 |
| ivve | there are many things that are better in kolla in MY own opinion | 18:50 |
| michaelbarkdoll | but, I wasn't too familiar with anisble back then | 18:50 |
| ivve | i've used both | 18:50 |
| ivve | first, i think kolla has way less code to do the same thing (ansible wise) | 18:50 |
| ivve | also kolla utilizes actual openstack configs and merges then (except for totally necessary defaults) has special ansible vars for options | 18:51 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Does LXC vs KVM allow more hosts to virtualize? E.g., in my apache cloudstack i have issues launching Win10 instances with KVM. I see kolla like KVM as well | 18:52 |
| ivve | and well.. docker with privileged containers is a really good idea | 18:52 |
| ivve | with docker you get a smaller footprint | 18:52 |
| ivve | also kolla has added lots of great toolboxes which are very well done | 18:53 |
| kplant | i do like OSA but i feel K-A has a much cleaner approach | 18:53 |
| michaelbarkdoll | We'll I'm loving kolla so far just think the documentation could use some work | 18:53 |
| kplant | kolla is also used in tripleo and by cisco in their vim | 18:53 |
| kplant | kolla has a lot of reasons to succeed | 18:53 |
| michaelbarkdoll | What is all the excited about Heat? | 18:53 |
| michaelbarkdoll | excitement* | 18:53 |
| kplant | kolla-ansible is probably the only deployment method that i got to work on the very first try | 18:54 |
| ivve | well, docs will never be perfect in this pace :) | 18:54 |
| kplant | it's a declarative orchestration engine | 18:54 |
| kplant | what's not to like? | 18:54 |
| michaelbarkdoll | No too familiar with it I guess, just learned kubernetes | 18:54 |
| ivve | but i think kolla docs are very good except for very fresh services.. which is fine btw | 18:54 |
| michaelbarkdoll | and docker swarm | 18:54 |
| kplant | kolla documentation is pretty solid imo | 18:54 |
| michaelbarkdoll | idk on centos I had to do all kinds of strange to get python to run in virtualenv's to get it to deploy with errors | 18:55 |
| michaelbarkdoll | without errors* | 18:55 |
| kplant | kolla? i didn't need venvs at all | 18:55 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Well, I probably did something in the wrong order then :( | 18:55 |
| kplant | i do use them since i collocate my mons on the controllers though | 18:55 |
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| michaelbarkdoll | But, hey if it worked for me still it shows some resiliency :) | 18:56 |
| ivve | wowowowo excitement about heat? its the best thing since sliced bread | 18:56 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Oh so heat is like kubernetes for launching cloud scale apps? | 18:57 |
| ivve | well, heat is the ultimate glue for anything in openstack | 18:57 |
| ivve | automation | 18:58 |
| michaelbarkdoll | I thought I heard one person say they could deploy openstack with heat | 18:58 |
| ivve | you can | 18:58 |
| ivve | rdo uses that method still, i think | 18:58 |
| michaelbarkdoll | I guess, I'm curious if it has any conflicts with kolla or if heat is the new big thing? | 18:58 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Better through so many deployment tools I'd like one that just works :) | 18:59 |
| ivve | there is no best way to do things, just different ways | 18:59 |
| michaelbarkdoll | This one looks promising | 18:59 |
| ivve | you can deploy openstack through k8s if you wish, nothing i would do. but you can | 18:59 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Yeah, then you have qemu i think with a performance hit | 18:59 |
| ivve | you can do the same thing with ceph. also in my very own opinion very wrong, but you can. | 18:59 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Ok, so you like Heat but still use kolla to deploy | 19:00 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Sounds promising to me | 19:00 |
| ivve | as i said, its an opinion :) | 19:00 |
| ivve | you should evaluate the options and pick what you like or feel comfy with | 19:01 |
| michaelbarkdoll | I just need something that can easily be upgraded | 19:01 |
| michaelbarkdoll | containers seem nice | 19:01 |
| michaelbarkdoll | I'm a one man show.. :( | 19:01 |
| ivve | same | 19:01 |
| ivve | but kolla is supernice because you can move(more or less, sometimes the DB needs to be dinged) up or down in versions | 19:02 |
| ivve | and its easy to manage it that way. i.e in a cluster i manage i have different versions of openstack services running (they are not aligned) | 19:03 |
| michaelbarkdoll | Sounds great | 19:04 |
| ivve | you can do the same thing with ceph i guess, but i prefer to upgrade the hosts directly ceph doesn't really need "microservices" | 19:04 |
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| michaelbarkdoll | Yeah, sounds like the plan | 19:05 |
| ivve | openstack on the other hand, needs it. badly | 19:05 |
| ivve | there aren't many deployments out there that uses entire physical hardware for each service :) much is co-located | 19:07 |
| ivve | i guess CERN probably has that. wish i could have a looksie on their ceph & OS | 19:09 |
| ivve | :) | 19:09 |
| ivve | i would have many questions | 19:09 |
| kplant | yeah cern is pretty large | 19:17 |
| kplant | they have like 70+ nova cells | 19:17 |
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| osmanlicilegi | greetings. i'm having an error while trying to deploy vmtp. it's https://www.hastebin.com/raw/misotoqabo anyone have idea about how can i fix this issue? | 20:17 |
| osmanlicilegi | i've both tried binary and source deployment but nothing changed. | 20:18 |
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| sean-k-mooney | o/ quick question is anyone activly working on remove nova-consoleauth https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1804474 | 21:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1804474 in kolla-ansible "nova-consoleauth is deprecated" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to caoyuan (cao-yuan) | 21:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | we were just discussing it in the nova meeting and it looks like tripleo and osa have already remvoed it | 21:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | it has not been used/need after rocky | 21:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | unless you used cells-v1 which kolla never supported | 21:56 |
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