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| pengdake | hi,guys. when bootstap container is wrong(database is changed but not populated) in first time deploy.Bootstrap container will not included(not populated) in second time because of database isn't changed.Is there any way to workaround? | 02:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhongshengping proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add cinder_enpoint_type option in trove https://review.openstack.org/534653 | 07:31 |
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| egonzalez | can someone review this tacker fixes? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531379/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531374/ | 07:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Quickstart rewrite https://review.openstack.org/526200 | 07:49 |
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| bjolo | howdy people | 08:28 |
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| bjolo | is anyone runing/testing neutron linuxbridge? | 08:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/533881 | 08:45 |
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| bjolo | Jeffrey4l: around? | 08:49 |
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| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, yup sup | 08:51 |
| bjolo | same old | 08:52 |
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| bjolo | hacking on infra | 08:52 |
| bjolo | are you going to the PTG? | 08:52 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, should be no ;( | 08:52 |
| bjolo | ouch | 08:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | no time and budget ;( | 08:53 |
| bjolo | wanted to talk to you about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/remove-node | 08:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes | 08:53 |
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| Jeffrey4l | no progress from me .. | 08:53 |
| bjolo | i will probably go since dublin is only a skip away from me | 08:53 |
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| Jeffrey4l | cool | 08:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | any idea bout the remove node bp? bjolo | 08:54 |
| bjolo | no it is hard to implement small functions in a the monolithic playbook | 08:54 |
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| bjolo | well kinda. redesign :) | 08:55 |
| bjolo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-multicloud-cli | 08:55 |
| bjolo | im hoping to have some demo code ready for dublin | 08:55 |
| bjolo | basically i think we need to go away from the monolithic huge playbook | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix the Prechecks failed while checking docker version https://review.openstack.org/533339 | 08:56 |
| bjolo | honestly it feels like it is imploding with too many ifs and when statements | 08:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, what do you mean by "monolithic huge playbook", what it will be in your design? | 08:57 |
| bjolo | we need to adopt unix way of thinking. collection of small "tools" | 08:57 |
| bjolo | that you can "pipe" together | 08:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, like "nova-deploy" role, "nova-prechecks" role? | 08:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | that will be ideal. | 08:58 |
| bjolo | yes something like that | 08:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | the pipe in ansible is "playbooks" | 08:59 |
| bjolo | and in my mind not everything has to be ansible | 08:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | we should split current role into multi to remove the if-else | 08:59 |
| bjolo | yes | 08:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, tbh, i like the ansible more than shell ;D | 08:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | i'd like ansibliz everthing | 09:00 |
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| Jeffrey4l | anyway, i support you that we need and should split the roles | 09:00 |
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| bjolo | and higher level functions are pieced together by smaller tools | 09:01 |
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| bjolo | i really like ansible as well, but im not dogmatic | 09:01 |
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| bjolo | i like to have a kolla cli that works and is very granular | 09:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes, that works for me | 09:01 |
| bjolo | so that i as an operator can do whatever i need to do | 09:02 |
| bjolo | like openstack cli | 09:02 |
| bjolo | server create | 09:02 |
| bjolo | server add float... | 09:02 |
| bjolo | etc | 09:02 |
| bjolo | etc | 09:02 |
| bjolo | right | 09:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | i have thought that we can leverage the ansible tag to control which task should be run. | 09:02 |
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| bjolo | if we step back and look at this high level... what is the real problem we are trying to solve? | 09:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | since kolla do not have a API. what the "cli" will do is compose one playbooks from roles. or compose multi playbooks. then run "ansible-playbooks" command. | 09:03 |
| bjolo | technically it works right. running os in containers works. that problem is solved | 09:04 |
| bjolo | kolla-ansible as it is today proved that | 09:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | are you saying kolla? or the current how playbooks works. | 09:04 |
| bjolo | current playbook | 09:04 |
| bjolo | kolla-ansible deploy | 09:04 |
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| Jeffrey4l | the big painful i think is : when i just wanna to change nova.conf to debug log, lots of un-related tasks is ran. | 09:05 |
| bjolo | Jeffrey4l: lets not think implementation right now. | 09:05 |
| bjolo | exactly | 09:06 |
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| Jeffrey4l | any other painful from you? bjolo | 09:06 |
| bjolo | kolla-ansible is monolithic with only 3 big buttons. | 09:06 |
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| bjolo | deploy, reconfigure and destroy | 09:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l | we even introduce "deploy/upgrade/reconfigure/precheck" to kolla. which doesn't exist on other playbooks. | 09:07 |
| bjolo | works for poc and proof of concept | 09:07 |
| bjolo | now think operator for a huge cloud | 09:07 |
| bjolo | 10000 compute nodes | 09:07 |
| bjolo | multiple cells | 09:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | we can use "deploy --tag nova --limit control[1:3],compute[1:10]" ;D | 09:08 |
| bjolo | Jeffrey4l: forgett how that is done today | 09:08 |
| bjolo | step away from code and think high level :) | 09:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. | 09:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | so you are say we should have a tool with more buttons ( params )? | 09:09 |
| bjolo | like a cli yes | 09:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | i agree on that. | 09:09 |
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| bjolo | for one thing all the --tag and --limit etc | 09:09 |
| bjolo | does not work | 09:09 |
| bjolo | because inventory is not done correctly so it bails out | 09:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrm, it works. unless the facters issue. | 09:10 |
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| bjolo | but lets step back | 09:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok | 09:10 |
| bjolo | the problem on a high level is this | 09:10 |
| bjolo | right container, right config, on right node | 09:10 |
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| bjolo | in a sense right container is also just a config thing right | 09:12 |
| bjolo | just specify the right image | 09:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | can not follow you. | 09:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | sorry, i gonna out now. brb later. lets talk later, ok? | 09:13 |
| bjolo | ok | 09:13 |
| bjolo | i will do a write up and post online | 09:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. you are really solving a big issue ;D | 09:14 |
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| bjolo | we have to get the modeling and problem description right | 09:15 |
| bjolo | before we think code | 09:15 |
| bjolo | i feel we are not doing that right now | 09:15 |
| bjolo | kolla-ansible has to model how openstack is designed | 09:15 |
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| bjolo | nova team thinks around cells, regions, etc | 09:16 |
| bjolo | we have --tag --limit | 09:16 |
| bjolo | missmatch | 09:16 |
| bjolo | we dont speak the same language | 09:16 |
| bjolo | openstack cli is matching how openstack is designed internally. i.e. how you should consume and structure your workload | 09:18 |
| bjolo | we need to do the same thing but externally from an operator perspective | 09:19 |
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| bjolo | will do a better write up to explain but than this, but for now https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-multicloud-cli | 09:21 |
| bjolo | also look at this one. | 09:21 |
| bjolo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/granular-cm-workflow | 09:21 |
| bjolo | boiled down the whole problem we are trying to solve is actually configuration management | 09:22 |
| bjolo | the problem is NOT deploying a container. not anymore at least. it is proved that it works :) | 09:23 |
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| bjolo | ttyl | 09:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Zhao proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Add the flannel driver in test case https://review.openstack.org/533604 | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Remove /lib/udev in $PATH for nova-compute https://review.openstack.org/532386 | 10:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yandy Sun proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: update sphinx-doc links https://review.openstack.org/534726 | 11:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Fluentd plugins rpm installation on CentOS https://review.openstack.org/529806 | 11:38 |
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| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, i am back | 11:51 |
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| Jeffrey4l | i read your 2 bps. kolla-multicloud-cli is a good idea. but tbh, granular-cm-workflow make it more complicate, why not use test/validate the configuration before pushing to the nodes? | 11:54 |
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| jianghuaw | egonzalez, hi. could you help to have a look at this patch for XenAPI at some time? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531640/ | 13:00 |
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| chmarkus | we use kolla-ansible to deploy all-in-one OpenStack setups on a bunch of test nodes - recently we experience a strange issue: after a while they slow down tremendously and the output of the 'mount' command starts showing over 40k mount entries, all of them are repeated 'shm' mounts from kolla-toolbox and nova-libvirt container - anyone experienced/seen this before? | 13:25 |
| chmarkus | it happened to multiple nodes, all of which are isolated OpenStack all-in-one setups each | 13:26 |
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| chmarkus | answering my own question: the note just above this subsection seems to explain it: https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/user/quickstart.html#additional-steps-for-upstart-and-other-non-systemd-distros | 13:41 |
| chmarkus | so seems we need to simply get rid of the lxc and lxd services | 13:42 |
| chmarkus | whoever wrote that note into the docs: thank you!! | 13:42 |
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| chmarkus | hmm issue still persists even after uninstalling everything related to lxc/lxd and rebooting ... | 14:08 |
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| Jeffrey4l | chmarkus, which docker version are you using? | 14:15 |
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| chmarkus | Jeffrey4l, 1.13.1 | 14:19 |
| chmarkus | on Ubuntu 16.04 | 14:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | we saw such issue on docker-engine 17.05, | 14:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | the workaround for this is: remove all the images and container. and upgrade docker-engine 17.05 to docker-ce 17.09 | 14:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | this works in my several env. | 14:20 |
| chmarkus | Jeffrey4l, thanks - we will try this | 14:21 |
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| Jeffrey4l | np. i tried to find more info about this bug on docker/moby issue list. but failed. if you find anything, please tell me :D | 14:22 |
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| chmarkus | also found nothing so far - the kolla docs say "An issue exists with cgroup mounts, mounts exponentially increasing when restarting container" but I was unable to find any related report on the net | 14:24 |
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| chmarkus | is the meeting today still happening? the agenda hasn't been updated yet - may I do so? | 14:31 |
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| bjolo | chmarkus: what filesystem are you using? | 14:38 |
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| bjolo | ext4, btrfs, xfs? | 14:39 |
| bjolo | on /var/lib/docker that is | 14:39 |
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| bjolo | Jeffrey4l: cm workflow is a great idea! :) | 14:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, xfs, but docker storage driver is direct-lvm | 14:40 |
| bjolo | i need to explain in detail, but in my mind it will be hooked based. i.e. operators can choose how complicated they want it | 14:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, not familiar with cm. i thing the cm should be another general tool/product | 14:41 |
| bjolo | default setting can be as it is today. template override and pushed directly to target node | 14:41 |
| bjolo | yes another tool | 14:41 |
| bjolo | kolla will do the template overide stuff | 14:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | it is beyond of kolla's mission. | 14:41 |
| bjolo | yes | 14:41 |
| bjolo | definetly | 14:41 |
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| bjolo | what im saying is that kolla should be able to output the config override to what ever the operator want | 14:42 |
| bjolo | for ex local filesystem on kolla node | 14:42 |
| bjolo | so that it can be reviewed before pushed to node | 14:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | i have never use any cm product, so i may be wrong here. ;( | 14:42 |
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| bjolo | getting the right container with the right config to the right node is a 3 step proces | 14:43 |
| bjolo | and the tool need to support these 3 steps | 14:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, just like current zuul system, all is in the git repo. anything change is review and tested before pushing to the real node. is this what you expected? | 14:43 |
| bjolo | 1. generate the config i.e. config override | 14:44 |
| bjolo | not familiar with zuul but it sounds like it yes | 14:44 |
| Jeffrey4l | what i am agree about is: review the changed before make it effect. just like "ansible-playbook --check" mode | 14:45 |
| bjolo | when config is generated, operator can review or not. based on setting kolla can push to target host, or to local dir, or to git | 14:45 |
| bjolo | yes | 14:45 |
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| bjolo | kolla push config will fetch the configs from "staging" to target node | 14:46 |
| bjolo | thats step 2 | 14:46 |
| bjolo | please node. image/container is also a config entry | 14:47 |
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| bjolo | step 3 is to instantiate the config. basically start/restart containers | 14:47 |
| bjolo | core design principle is that kolla can not do any magic | 14:48 |
| bjolo | expressed that badly | 14:48 |
| bjolo | what i mean is that a container when it boots sets its correct state | 14:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | i think ansible's --check --diff should be a better solution. | 14:48 |
| bjolo | Jeffrey4l dont think code just yet ok :) | 14:48 |
| bjolo | i dont care how it is done at this point | 14:49 |
| bjolo | kolla reconfigure/deploy today does some logic when it runs | 14:49 |
| bjolo | in the sense that it sets state | 14:49 |
| bjolo | best example is the neutron openvswitch | 14:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | aha, i like code. and anyway, i am not totally agree on the whole flow. but the basic idea make sense. | 14:50 |
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| bjolo | if i want to add a new external interface for neutron with the neutron_bridge_name and neutron_external_interfaces | 14:51 |
| chmarkus | bjolo, sorry for the late reply - it's ext44 | 14:51 |
| chmarkus | *ext4 | 14:51 |
| bjolo | when i run reconfigure, it is the actual ansible code that does the ovs-vsctl add-bridge commands on the target node | 14:52 |
| bjolo | i.e. kolla makes some magic | 14:52 |
| Jeffrey4l | chmarkus, the root cause of this issue cased by "--privileged -v /dev:/dev" | 14:52 |
| bjolo | all containers should set their own correct state on boot | 14:52 |
| bjolo | an external process should not to it for them | 14:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, so you want to add the bridged during container startup? | 14:53 |
| bjolo | yes | 14:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, that's is more optimal. now in k8s world a "sidecar" container is invented to do some jobs. | 14:54 |
| egonzalez | can we get reviews for this ODL backports? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530869/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530044/ | 14:54 |
| bjolo | for comparsion when i boot/reboot a linux machine i expect all services to come up correctly with correct config right | 14:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | think mariadb cluster, it is hard to implement this. | 14:54 |
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| bjolo | if i rely on external process to set my state i end up being a very complicated state machine | 14:55 |
| bjolo | im old unix hacker | 14:55 |
| bjolo | i design the way unix is designed | 14:55 |
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| Jeffrey4l | i like your idea. but, tbh, this is the real world. i am afraid your idea is hard to implement. | 14:56 |
| bjolo | haha | 14:56 |
| bjolo | in my mind what you are trying to do is complicated | 14:56 |
| bjolo | unix has stand the test of time | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Qi Peng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add a configuration about docker runtime directory https://review.openstack.org/534778 | 14:57 |
| bjolo | one hugh playbook that gets more and more ifs and whens for every feature will implode at some point | 14:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | if we move the add-bridge to container itself, we are move the playbooks from "kolla-ansible" to the container startup script. | 14:58 |
| bjolo | yes | 14:58 |
| bjolo | which is the right way of doing it if you ask me | 14:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | this is more like ubuntu's snap ;D | 14:58 |
| bjolo | kolla should only be about getting the right container to the right host with the right config | 14:59 |
| bjolo | not doing magic on the way | 14:59 |
| bjolo | makes it resilient and scalable | 14:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | openvswitch is a simple one. | 14:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | how about nova-api startup. | 14:59 |
| bjolo | yes probably | 14:59 |
| bjolo | whats the story with nova-api? | 15:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | do you want to run db sync during nova-api startup? | 15:00 |
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| bjolo | depends | 15:00 |
| bjolo | it is either in container boot | 15:00 |
| bjolo | or something that the operator deliberately do via the cli | 15:01 |
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| bjolo | kolla-cli nova syncdb | 15:01 |
| pomac | Jeffrey4l: is it required for the container to start atomically? Can it be checked to see if it's required or can it be done in a async manner when it's started | 15:01 |
| bjolo | but it should not be in kolla | 15:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | pomac, what does that mean? docker run --restart always? | 15:02 |
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| bjolo | kinda old but still relevant | 15:03 |
| bjolo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/inventory-group-as-config-target | 15:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, now we already have some *task* on container startup side. like copy configuration files, make the correct folder permission. but the hard thing is: which part should be keep in container, and which not. | 15:03 |
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| bjolo | s/inventory group/openstack construckts/g | 15:04 |
| pomac | Jeffrey4l: the best example we have is the bridge mappings that are only run sometimes - while teh check is inexpensive and could be run on each startup - making the container atomic (it has and does everything it needs to do) | 15:04 |
| bjolo | Jeffrey4l: yes i know | 15:04 |
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| bjolo | my problem is really that we are not consistent | 15:04 |
| bjolo | somethings are done at boot, other things are done by kolla ansible | 15:04 |
| pomac | (as part of the reconfigure target only ^ ) | 15:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. this is bad. we have no law for this. which is really needed. | 15:05 |
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| Jeffrey4l | pomac, so the issue is still what is expensive and what isn't. | 15:05 |
| bjolo | all "logic" should be either in container startup or a deliberat act of the operator via a command | 15:06 |
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| Jeffrey4l | and on the other hand, expensive is not a law/rule | 15:06 |
| pomac | Jeffrey4l: sure, but it's secondary - first deside on a logic and how it should work - then work out how it can be solved ;) | 15:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, i thought remove all the scripts in the container side and move them into ansible ;D | 15:06 |
| bjolo | haha | 15:07 |
| pomac | Jeffrey4l: bjolo is focused on the architecture/logic bit - which is the first step thoward solving this | 15:07 |
| pomac | hehe | 15:07 |
| bjolo | or do that | 15:07 |
| bjolo | either way to be honest | 15:07 |
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| bjolo | but the mix and match we have now is just not good | 15:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | kolla-k8s is using my way. | 15:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | run many commands in the init-container. | 15:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, agree on that. | 15:08 |
| bjolo | just to clear and put things in perspective | 15:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. | 15:08 |
| bjolo | you only do the deploy ONCE | 15:09 |
| bjolo | per cloud per service | 15:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | the mix and match we have now is just not good <--- this should be solve definitely. | 15:09 |
| egonzalez | one thing to note is other projects uses kolla images, if we move our things to container startup they will break | 15:09 |
| bjolo | what you do in the init container for that is not interesting | 15:09 |
| egonzalez | for me images are just rpm/.deb/packages | 15:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, we can keep back compatible. | 15:09 |
| bjolo | im not saying to move into the actual container image | 15:10 |
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| bjolo | im saying the the boot config.json that is copied into the container at boot should have all info neded | 15:10 |
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| bjolo | egonzalez: right | 15:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, +1 | 15:11 |
| bjolo | just need to have CMD kolla-extended-start | 15:11 |
| bjolo | or whatever it is | 15:11 |
| bjolo | so deploy is only done once | 15:11 |
| bjolo | fokus for kolla should be on dayily operations of a cloud | 15:12 |
| bjolo | create a new cell | 15:12 |
| bjolo | add/remove nodes | 15:12 |
| bjolo | upgrade nova | 15:12 |
| bjolo | upgrade keystone | 15:12 |
| pomac | change configurations | 15:12 |
| bjolo | most prod clouds tend to run different releases for different services | 15:12 |
| pomac | (and handle their sideeffects) | 15:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | just need to have CMD kolla-extended-start / so deploy is only done once <-- i still can not understand here | 15:13 |
| bjolo | change config and track it | 15:13 |
| bjolo | enable debug on neutron on this node for troubleshooting | 15:13 |
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| pomac | Jeffrey4l: you "deploy" once, initial setup - all other things are iteratrive, small changes or larger changes. | 15:14 |
| bjolo | upgrade nova-libvirt on one compute node for testing a new build | 15:14 |
| bjolo | etc | 15:14 |
| bjolo | etc | 15:14 |
| bjolo | you get the point | 15:14 |
| bjolo | this is the day of the operator | 15:14 |
| pomac | Jeffrey4l: you might to a genconfig to look at the changes - how it would be presented and then try it on one service before restarting all containers of that service | 15:14 |
| bjolo | to do this we need a very granular CLI tool | 15:14 |
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| pomac | Jeffrey4l: thus, deploy once - all other things should be handled by their respective containers (including sideeffects like new interfaces added or removed for ovs f.ex.) | 15:15 |
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| egonzalez | hrm, thinking on code... how about add some pre/post startup commands to config.json or making container systemd services | 15:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. i agree on this. but i think we don't need another tool ( or just need a wrapper tool) ansible --check and --diff mode works perfect. | 15:16 |
| bjolo | egonzalez: +1 | 15:16 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l, agree | 15:16 |
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| bjolo | worth exploring | 15:16 |
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| bjolo | again... dont care how it is done in code | 15:17 |
| bjolo | all i want is this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-multicloud-cli | 15:17 |
| bjolo | :) | 15:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, we can extend the kolla_start to run a bunch of script, like "run all script in /var/lib/kolla/scripts/ folder" | 15:17 |
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| bjolo | 10_do-first | 15:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | theoretical, i totally agree with you bjolo . what i concern is how to implement this ;D | 15:18 |
| pomac | Jeffrey4l: which sounds like sysv ;) | 15:18 |
| bjolo | 20_do-second | 15:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. order by filename | 15:18 |
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| Jeffrey4l | pomac, kinda of | 15:18 |
| pomac | Jeffrey4l: you could do some sanity checks and have handlers for different sections of files if they are changed | 15:19 |
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| pomac | ini files should be simple enough -> extract section and save checksum - if changed "handle" the change ;) | 15:19 |
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| bjolo | timestamp diff config vs container startuptime | 15:20 |
| pomac | (and it's something already done via reconfigure and deploy steps | 15:20 |
| pomac | bjolo: section checksum is actually better, handle "parts" of a configuration file - but yes - this is also needed | 15:20 |
| egonzalez | bjolo, re the blueprint, sounds like a full rework of kolla, will need databases, etc to keep states. Why not use a CM system for that like ansible tower | 15:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | we are using sanity checks and handlers. ( even though some service reconfigure still are using old implementation ) | 15:21 |
| bjolo | egonzalez: what states? | 15:21 |
| bjolo | the whole point is to have no states | 15:21 |
| egonzalez | node list, will need some place to store the data | 15:21 |
| bjolo | inventory file | 15:21 |
| bjolo | but if we have more of a dynamic inventory we need something else perhaps | 15:22 |
| bjolo | in my view we should have a kolla API container | 15:23 |
| bjolo | that has everything in it | 15:23 |
| bjolo | pip install kolla-cli | 15:23 |
| egonzalez | i get the point of having more ops command to check status and services, but multicloud can be done currently changing config dirs in globals | 15:23 |
| bjolo | talk to API container | 15:23 |
| bjolo | egonzalez: yes but .... | 15:23 |
| bjolo | kolla API container can of course run on docker swarm or K8 | 15:24 |
| bjolo | whatever the operator want | 15:24 |
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| bjolo | even multiple containers runing galera for safe storage | 15:25 |
| bjolo | hashicorp vault for secure passwords | 15:25 |
| bjolo | keystone for access | 15:26 |
| bjolo | admins and other users | 15:26 |
| bjolo | pretty much like openstack control plane and openstack cli | 15:27 |
| bjolo | skip haproxy for simplicity | 15:27 |
| egonzalez | bjolo, there is* a cross-project initiative to create/share/maintain tools for healthchecks http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122142.html | 15:27 |
| bjolo | just rely on docker svarm | 15:27 |
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| bjolo | egonzalez: cool | 15:28 |
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| egonzalez | i'm not getting that point, you mean make every service independent of each other to run in multi places/tools? | 15:29 |
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| Jeffrey4l | isn't docker swarm dying? ;D | 15:30 |
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| bjolo | haha maybe | 15:32 |
| bjolo | it doesnt matter, any container cluster framework should work | 15:32 |
| bjolo | svarm is just so simple since it is built in | 15:32 |
| bjolo | egonzalez: are you going to the PTG in dublin? | 15:33 |
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| egonzalez | yep | 15:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | it is said that docker will integrate with k8s. | 15:33 |
| bjolo | would love to have a whiteboard brainstorming around this | 15:33 |
| bjolo | i gotta work | 15:34 |
| egonzalez | yeah, with 3 pints all will be easier ;) | 15:34 |
| bjolo | we have a weird ass neutron issue | 15:34 |
| bjolo | haha right on! | 15:34 |
| bjolo | i buy the first round | 15:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, if you can be that you can add your name here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning | 15:35 |
| bjolo | neutron looses connectivity between hosts in the sense that local arp table is missing entries | 15:35 |
| bjolo | narrowed it down to l2pop/arpresponder not behaving | 15:37 |
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| bjolo | ovs and vxlan | 15:37 |
| egonzalez | bjolo, when removing hosts or randomly dropping | 15:38 |
| bjolo | randomly | 15:38 |
| bjolo | for ex | 15:38 |
| bjolo | vm with floating ip | 15:38 |
| bjolo | ping from outside, i se packets coming in on L3 node. arp requests out on L3 gr interface, but no response | 15:39 |
| bjolo | no packets going on on tunnel interface | 15:39 |
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| bjolo | arp packets | 15:39 |
| bjolo | 10 min later it works | 15:39 |
| bjolo | same thing happens on neutron HA interfaces | 15:40 |
| pomac | (l3_ha - there are some bug reports about it all over the place - but no fixes :/ ) | 15:40 |
| bjolo | causing both L3 nodes to think they are master | 15:40 |
| egonzalez | thats was about to say that | 15:40 |
| bjolo | but this is not only HA | 15:40 |
| bjolo | it is also l2pop and arpresponder | 15:41 |
| bjolo | anyway, im trying out linuxbridge now instead | 15:41 |
| bjolo | anyone runing that? | 15:41 |
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| bjolo | so far no issues and i like it a lot better | 15:41 |
| bjolo | simplicity! | 15:42 |
| egonzalez | bjolo, what version you running? | 15:42 |
| bjolo | pike | 15:42 |
| bjolo | ocata and newton | 15:42 |
| egonzalez | whats on ha_vrrp_health_check_interval? | 15:42 |
| bjolo | pike and ocata clouds issue confirmed for sure | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/kolla master: Check whether the source file exists before configuring the dashboard https://review.openstack.org/529561 | 15:42 |
| bjolo | 2s i believe | 15:42 |
| bjolo | default value | 15:42 |
| egonzalez | default is 0 disabled | 15:43 |
| bjolo | na it is runing | 15:43 |
| bjolo | i see the trafik with tcpdump | 15:43 |
| bjolo | seems about 2s in between | 15:43 |
| egonzalez | we set 5s if enable_neutron_agent_ha | 15:44 |
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| bjolo | ok | 15:44 |
| bjolo | why? | 15:44 |
| egonzalez | timeframe no idea why, why is set only in that case is because is not required when not agent ha | 15:45 |
| bjolo | is that the wait time between sending vrrp status? | 15:45 |
| bjolo | or wait time for slave to take over? | 15:46 |
| bjolo | where do you set it? | 15:46 |
| egonzalez | l3_agent.ini | 15:46 |
| egonzalez | bjolo, maybe this helps to find the issue https://ihrachyshka.com/2017/05/17/gratuitous-arp-for-openstack-neutron/ | 15:46 |
| pomac | it's 5 here as well | 15:46 |
| egonzalez | is a neutron core ;) | 15:47 |
| egonzalez | is a series of post for debbuging/bugs, troubleshoot arp | 15:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | garp issue? | 15:49 |
| pomac | I doubt it | 15:49 |
| pomac | since the problem is over vxlan links, more like arp_repsonder and l2pop | 15:49 |
| pomac | + l3_ha | 15:49 |
| pomac | Thats what we've been looking at mostly | 15:49 |
| pomac | (vxlan doesn't have broadcast - i doubt that multicast is configured - just FYI) | 15:50 |
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| pomac | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1207284 <- things like this is all over the place | 15:53 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1207284 in ruby193-rubygem-staypuft "l2pop and l3-ha should never be turned on together" [Urgent,Closed: errata] - Assigned to sseago | 15:53 |
| ktibi | Hi all, I try to deploy a new ceph node, so I use limit for deploy only on my new node. But I have issue with ceph : Fetching Ceph keyrings ==> fatal: [compute06]: FAILED! => {"failed": true, "msg": "'delegate_host' is undefined"} | 15:54 |
| pomac | Also, there are several bug reports on launchpad + there has been several patches but they have all been abandoned... =P | 15:54 |
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| ktibi | maybe limit option make impossible to ansible to find delegate_host ?? | 15:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | ktibi, you'd better add "controller nodes" to the limit | 15:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | the facts variable is reuiqred. | 15:55 |
| ktibi | like ctrl01:compute06 ? | 15:55 |
| ktibi | or need to add all controllers ? | 15:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | --limit ctrl01,02,03,compute06 | 15:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. | 15:56 |
| ktibi | ok thx | 15:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | or create a temporary inventory file with the control node and compute node you need. | 15:56 |
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| Jeffrey4l | meeting time. | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: kibana: allow use of server.basePath https://review.openstack.org/532946 | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gaëtan Trellu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Missing configuration for Trove single tenant https://review.openstack.org/533695 | 16:15 |
| kfox1111 | morning. | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nick Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [HAProxy] Allow extra options to be specified per listener https://review.openstack.org/534834 | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nick Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [HAProxy] Allow extra options to be specified per listener https://review.openstack.org/534834 | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Duong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support policy.yaml file [part 2] https://review.openstack.org/531641 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Duong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support policy.yaml file [part 2] https://review.openstack.org/531641 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Duong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support policy.yaml file [part 2] https://review.openstack.org/531641 | 16:48 |
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| duonghq | it's seem that I make gerrit unhappy with the patch: https://review.openstack.org/531641 | 16:58 |
| duonghq | after did some editing with the built-in editor | 16:59 |
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| Jeffrey4l | aha, you may need ask help from infra team. | 17:00 |
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| duonghq | can you open the patch? | 17:00 |
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| Jeffrey4l | no, it say no permission to open it. | 17:01 |
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| Jeffrey4l | "The page you requested was not found, or you do not have permission to view " | 17:02 |
| duonghq | me too | 17:02 |
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| duonghq | so I think I will take a sleep and let gerrit get some rest, :P | 17:03 |
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| bjolo | in pike, how many nova-cells should i see when i run openstack compute service list | 17:03 |
| duonghq | and I'll comeback to it later | 17:04 |
| duonghq | thank you Jeffrey4l, see you later | 17:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | see ya | 17:04 |
| duonghq | egonzalez went to fast, I didn't have enough time to say thanks to him :( | 17:05 |
| duonghq | *too fast | 17:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, no one if you are say nova cell v2. | 17:05 |
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| duonghq | too many typo from me in a few sentences, I should got to my bed quickly | 17:05 |
| duonghq | cya | 17:05 |
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| bjolo | clean pike install | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Nick Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [HAProxy] Allow extra options to be specified per listener https://review.openstack.org/534834 | 17:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | nova cell is using separate api interface. | 17:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | and i am not sure where it have api client now. | 17:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | s/where/whether/ | 17:06 |
| bjolo | http://paste.openstack.org/show/646532/ | 17:07 |
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| bjolo | cellsv2 is default on pike right? | 17:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. but nova-cells is used for cellv1 | 17:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l | in nova cell v2, there is no extra service. | 17:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | all is done in nova-api process. | 17:08 |
| bjolo | so it is a bugg in deploy that creates the compute service? | 17:08 |
| bjolo | this is a fresh deploy since 30min back | 17:08 |
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| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, do you deploy it by kolla-ansible pike? | 17:09 |
| bjolo | yes | 17:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | that shouldn't be happen :( | 17:09 |
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| bjolo | kolla magic huh :) | 17:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | bjolo, do you have nova-cells container? | 17:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | or process? | 17:09 |
| bjolo | nope | 17:10 |
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| Jeffrey4l | no idea why it is there. in my pike env, "nova-cells" is not shown in service-list | 17:10 |
| bjolo | http://paste.openstack.org/show/646533/ | 17:11 |
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| Jeffrey4l | no idea ;( | 17:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | interesting. nova-cells is only up on first controller nodes. | 17:13 |
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| bjolo | yes | 17:14 |
| bjolo | noticed that too | 17:15 |
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| Jeffrey4l | i doubt it is not added/started by kolla. | 17:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | nova never handled nova-cells/cellv1 | 17:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | s/nova never/kolla never/ | 17:17 |
| bjolo | ok | 17:17 |
| bjolo | weird | 17:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | i am off today. bye guys | 17:18 |
| bjolo | but something else is not right here | 17:18 |
| bjolo | hypervisor list is empty | 17:18 |
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| chmarkus | Jeffrey4l, I will add some of my findings to the blueprint regarding alpine tomorrow and ping you afterwards | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | chandu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Removing groups scope from all to baremetal in baremetal pre-install task under bootstrap-server https://review.openstack.org/514774 | 19:53 |
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| Nitish | I am deploying Kolla [Ocata] Swift containers On Ubuntu 16.04 and looking for help with that | 20:30 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul will be offline for a few minutes; existing changes will be re-enqueued; approvals during the downtime will need to be re-added. | 20:39 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexandru Bogdan Pica proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement external MariaDB and pre-configured Databases support https://review.openstack.org/533428 | 21:26 |
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