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| mguest | Hello! Quick question: was Alpine Linux ever considered/attempted to be added as a supported base distro for Kolla? | 09:31 |
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| mguest | okay, seems there's a at least a blueprint for this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/support-alpine-distro-base-image | 09:36 |
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| egonzalez | mguest, no one started to work on it or doing a POC | 10:02 |
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| mguest | Then I'll go ahead and try it I guess ;) | 10:05 |
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| egonzalez | cool | 10:07 |
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| hrw | mguest: good luck | 11:22 |
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| hrw | mguest: I can test your changes on aarch64 once you have something | 11:22 |
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| hrw | mguest: I would start from getting source based images working. | 11:23 |
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| mguest | hrw, thanks for the offer - I will note that down and get back to you once I have something working. | 11:51 |
| hrw | mguest: or organize you some aarch64 VM instance if gema allows | 11:52 |
| mguest | I suppose there will be only source based images possible for Alpine since there are no OpenStack binary packages available for it afaik | 11:57 |
| hrw | mguest: it simplifies things | 11:57 |
| hrw | mguest: then remember to add a check if someone goes for alpine/binary to exit right away | 11:57 |
| mguest | I plan to | 11:58 |
| hrw | mguest: remember to make small self-contained patches rather than many-patches-in-one-set way | 11:58 |
| hrw | mguest: first make some minimal one which just adds alpine and gives alpine-source-base image | 11:59 |
| hrw | then one to add images and do build tests before sending for review | 11:59 |
| hrw | small single patches are easier to review/accept and you may not have to go to >50 versions of same patch | 12:00 |
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| mguest | I'm not familiar with the specifics of the gerrit review system. Let's say I fork Kolla into a private repository, add Alpine support for everything in there - are the git commits I do in my repo somehow preserved/presented as single patches in gerrit when putting it up for review? | 12:03 |
| hrw | gema: mguest is starting to work on adding Alpine support into Kolla. I told him that I help with testing on aarch64 once something exist for tests. or give him VM instance in a cloud for it. | 12:04 |
| gema | mguest: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 12:04 |
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| gema | hrw: yep, that's not a problem but not a priority for us right now | 12:05 |
| gema | hrw: it can happen after queens | 12:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Tudosoiu Marian proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Rework mariadb recovery tasks https://review.openstack.org/532509 | 12:05 |
| gema | hrw: since we are adding our cloud to the gates, any work mguest does for kolla will be tested on our cloud anyway | 12:06 |
| hrw | mguest: "git checkout origin/master alpine/everything" and then do work, rebase often etc. Once ready do rebase on top of origin/master, split changes into sane commits and do 'git review' - it will list you all changes in a branch and ask do you want to send all of it for review | 12:06 |
| hrw | gema: zuul will check do his patches affect existing setup. while he makes a new one | 12:07 |
| gema | hrw: yep | 12:07 |
| hrw | but yeah, very low pri for now | 12:07 |
| mguest | so just for clarification regarding "remember to make small self-contained patches rather than many-patches-in-one-set way" - it is sufficient to make my git commits this way and upload some sort of batch review request? It is not necessary to put up many small gerrit review requests? | 12:09 |
| gema | mguest: as small as it makes sense for review | 12:10 |
| gema | mguest: engage with us, come to the weekly meetings | 12:10 |
| gema | mguest: don't go and work on a silo and then come here with 2K lines of code and expect someone to review and understand | 12:10 |
| gema | mguest: essentially, use common sense | 12:10 |
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| gema | mguest: if your patch is big then it is big, but don't pile them up | 12:10 |
| gema | mguest: you can send a patch as a WIP thing to get feedback | 12:11 |
| gema | and grow it organically | 12:11 |
| hrw | mguest: and do not gave up. merging non-x86 support and Debian support took me 4-5 months | 12:12 |
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| hrw | mguest: but remember - first get base image built. it may be ~30% of work as you add new distro | 12:14 |
| chmarkus | so the next meeting is today @16:00 UTC right? | 12:14 |
| hrw | yep | 12:15 |
| hrw | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla | 12:15 |
| hrw | feel free to add entry to meeting plan (with nick in ()) | 12:15 |
| chmarkus | so the thing is basically our company wants to migrate to full dockerized OpenStack and additionally use Alpine as the base - I'm currently tasked with the Alpine extension of Kolla, that's why I was asking about the contribution - it would be sad not to provide it upstream | 12:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Tudosoiu Marian proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Rework mariadb recovery tasks https://review.openstack.org/531122 | 12:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use multipathd hostgroup in the multipathd role https://review.openstack.org/532510 | 12:23 |
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| hrw | chmarkus: go for it | 12:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tudosoiu Marian proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Amended previous fix https://review.openstack.org/532515 | 12:47 |
| chmarkus | does Kolla support individual base_distro specifications for individual services when building? I think Alpine support for each and every service of Kolla won't be possible. | 12:49 |
| chmarkus | For instance, Grafana has issues with its dependencies on Alpine due to some musl libc and golang differences, see https://github.com/grafana/grafana-docker/issues/44 | 12:50 |
| egonzalez | chmarkus, base_distro is not overriden atm, not hard to do it https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/roles/aodh/defaults/main.yml#L57 | 12:50 |
| chmarkus | so would it be legit for Kolla to only provide optional Alpine support for a subset of the services? | 12:53 |
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| chmarkus | i.e. it is not a hard requirement that each and every service must run flawless when a new base_distro type is to be added? | 12:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tudosoiu Marian proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Rework mariadb recovery tasks https://review.openstack.org/531122 | 12:58 |
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| hrw | chmarkus: there is no distro in kolla which would support all images | 13:08 |
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| chmarkus | hrw, that's reassuring to hear I guess ;) How is such incompatibility handled, e.g. if the user tries to build image X on incompatible base_distro Y, does kolla warn or abort somewow? | 13:13 |
| chmarkus | *somehow | 13:13 |
| hrw | chmarkus: grep for 'no binary' in docker/* | 13:13 |
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| egonzalez | chmarkus, https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/tacker/tacker-base/Dockerfile.j2#L19 | 13:16 |
| chmarkus | egonzalez, thanks I see | 13:16 |
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| rwellum | gema: hrw: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning fyi | 14:22 |
| kolla-slack | <aslancimbom100> looks like just paul at the moment :P | 14:24 |
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| gema | rwellum: thanks! | 14:34 |
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| Ashu | Hello | 14:45 |
| Ashu | I am installing kolla pike in my machine | 14:46 |
| Ashu | However the version i see is 5.0.2 not usual 5.0.1..but github.com shows no changes in pike branch of kolla | 14:47 |
| Ashu | How is this possible | 14:47 |
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| Ashu | Please help | 14:47 |
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| rwellum | Ashu - version (image tag) should actually be: "pike" | 14:57 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is being restarted due to slowness and to apply kernel patches | 14:58 | |
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| rwellum | aslancimbom100 - up to three now :) | 15:31 |
| kolla-slack | <aslancimbom100> :thumbsup: hopefully it will be a good turnout and productive one, i look forward to any post recordings or etherpads | 15:32 |
| inc0 | good morning | 15:42 |
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| rwellum | Morning inc0 | 15:45 |
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| gema | inc0: morning | 15:49 |
| gema | inc0: are you happy? now I am trying to put compute on infra | 15:50 |
| gema | :D | 15:50 |
| inc0 | that definetly contributed to my general happiness:) | 15:50 |
| gema | \o/ | 15:50 |
| hrw | inc0: elo | 15:50 |
| inc0 | elo elo | 15:50 |
| inc0 | now we'll need to figure out how to add second arch to zuul;) | 15:51 |
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| dardelean | hello | 15:57 |
| gema | we'll have to add someone to that task :D | 15:58 |
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| kfox1111 | morning. | 16:41 |
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| SpamapS | Will Kolla be doing stuff at the PTG? | 16:44 |
| gema | yep | 16:45 |
| gema | SpamapS: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning | 16:46 |
| SpamapS | gema: thanks! | 16:47 |
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| egonzalez | SpamapS, will you at PTG? | 16:49 |
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| SpamapS | egonzalez: there are a few dominoes to knock down first, but that should set off a chain reaction that ends with me in Dublin. ;) | 16:53 |
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| gema | inc0: on the ceph topic, we are releasing luminous in queens, right? | 17:00 |
| duonghq | inc0, how about let user migrate to external ceph? | 17:00 |
| duonghq | gema, yep | 17:00 |
| inc0 | let user migrate to external ceph is something that has to be automated | 17:00 |
| gema | duonghq, inc0: my team is testing and told me we don't support bluestore | 17:00 |
| gema | which is a main feature of ceph luminous | 17:00 |
| inc0 | we can't just ask people to do hard data migration with no assitance | 17:00 |
| gema | shall we add it? | 17:00 |
| inc0 | if it's easy enough, yes | 17:01 |
| gema | inc0: ok, we are on it then | 17:01 |
| gema | will let you know | 17:01 |
| inc0 | if it's hard, let's spend this time on figuring out how to make this migration-to-external-ceph a reality | 17:01 |
| inc0 | cool thanks | 17:01 |
| gema | hrw: we need to start working on ceph-ansible enablement asap | 17:02 |
| gema | hrw: they are internal colleagues of yours, you could reach out | 17:02 |
| duonghq | inc0, roger | 17:02 |
| hrw | gema: do we have jira card for it? | 17:02 |
| gema | hrw: maybe, will search for it and add it if it is not | 17:03 |
| hrw | gema: thanks | 17:03 |
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| gema | hrw: thank you! | 17:03 |
| inc0 | uhh..I've clicked send on hard email to openstack-dev ... | 17:03 |
| hrw | gema: have to check who is behind as some of RH people will be at devconf.cz ;D | 17:03 |
| gema | inc0: on what topic? | 17:04 |
| gema | my filtering is crazy xD | 17:04 |
| inc0 | PTL non-candidacy | 17:04 |
| gema | ack | 17:04 |
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| SamYaple | inc0: not leaving openstack though.... right? | 17:07 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple: not sure tbh | 17:07 |
| rwellum | inc0: -1 | 17:07 |
| SamYaple | inc0: want to write a libvirt replacement/kubernetes scehduler based vm launcher instead of openstack? | 17:07 |
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| duonghq | goodnight guys | 17:20 |
| kfox1111 | SamYaple: similar to kubevirt? | 17:20 |
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| SamYaple | kfox1111: NO LIBVIRT! | 17:33 |
| SamYaple | nah kubevirt to me is destin to fail primarily because they are intentionally trying to make it compatible with existing things | 17:34 |
| SamYaple | itll be a nice migration point, but it wont be the "state-of-the-art" model | 17:34 |
| * SamYaple ends prediction | 17:34 | |
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| kfox1111 | I'm much more interested in the schema vs the implementation. | 17:36 |
| kfox1111 | libvirt or not libvirt is an implementation detail. | 17:36 |
| kfox1111 | what a vm looks like in a crd and how it behaves is the real important part. | 17:36 |
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| SamYaple | oh yea. i totally get that | 17:40 |
| SamYaple | the current plan is to stay pretty close to the qmp behaviour | 17:40 |
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| SamYaple | we willbasicallyjust expose all ofthe known actions via a client that will be mostly auto-generated | 17:41 |
| SamYaple | QMP is actually extremely well thought out inmyopinion | 17:42 |
| SamYaple | its been pretty easy to workwith | 17:42 |
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| kfox1111 | cool. | 17:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Grafana deployment fails on remote hosts https://review.openstack.org/532587 | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Grafana deployment fails on remote hosts https://review.openstack.org/532587 | 17:54 |
| rwellum | QMP? SamYaple | 17:57 |
| kfox1111 | rwellum: google qmp qemu. shows up pretty quick. | 17:58 |
| SamYaple | rwellum: its just qemu's new-ish interface to talk to the qemu console from an outside socket | 18:02 |
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| rwellum | Thanks - was confused because it's actually been around a while I thought | 18:04 |
| SamYaple | rwellum: new-ish in qemus lifespan. but this isnt about the interface as much as it is about managing qemu without libvirt | 18:05 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The zuul system is being restarted to apply security updates and will be offline for several minutes. It will be restarted and changes re-equeued; changes approved during the downtime will need to be rechecked or re-approved. | 22:23 | |
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