Friday, 2017-12-15

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rwelluminc0: I figured it out :) My local repo was missing something quite important.00:01
inc0rwellum: what was that?00:02
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jascott1any kolla-ansible xperts around?01:30
kfox1111sry01:34
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jascott1kfox1111 pretty sure you are supposed to be on vacation sir!01:36
kfox1111that, is entirely in the eye of the beholder sir. ;)01:36
jascott1oh btw inc0 turned me onto Kerbal Space Program01:37
kfox1111oh. thats a very interesting game. :)01:37
jascott1I havent played yet but its on Humble Bundle now for 1/2 off ($20)01:37
kfox1111nice.01:37
kfox1111I've only got it on the ps4, which is a little difficult to play.01:37
kfox1111a mouse would be so much easier I think.01:37
jascott1oh i have one of those. didnt realize it was on there01:38
jascott1yeah just got last piece of son's new pc for xmas01:38
kfox1111sweet. I just got kubeadm to init from a quine-registry via the kube-mulit-registry with ssl cert. :)01:38
jascott1decided to live vicariously and amp everything up01:38
kfox1111sweet. :)01:38
jascott1awesome!01:39
kfox1111I should have all the plumbing now to fire up everyting in minikube, install a bare metal node from scratch, do a kubeadm init on it and never talk to the internet after the initial minikube start.01:39
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kfox1111I just gotta figure out how to do helm, so I can migrate the provision instance from minikube to the spawned cluster. :)01:40
jascott1what are the constraints for helm?01:41
kfox1111gotta make a quine registry for tiller, gotta store the clients somewhere. those are easy.01:42
kfox1111gotta figure out how to launch sdn. (trickier)01:42
kfox1111was hoping by now I could use helm for that.01:42
kfox1111still might with the -o option you added.01:42
kfox1111gotta put some key helm charts into a container too for easy sharing.01:43
jascott1yeah sorry we havent pulled that off yet :(01:43
kfox1111well, I was really hoping k8s would fix their issue.01:43
kfox1111https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/issues/4571701:43
kfox1111seems to have stalled out. :(01:43
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kfox1111I'm also really starting to struggle with helm when it comes to aggregating charts. :(01:44
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kfox1111for example, I have to set the same value like 7 times because it needs to be set differently for each subchart. :(01:44
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kfox1111I could fix that by rewriting everything myself and not sharing child charts. but that sucks too.01:45
kfox1111helm really needs some value templating/defaulting.01:45
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jascott1we (helm) need your use case! I know they are in the issues but I really hope you can make it down in Feb01:48
kfox1111gonna be a get together?01:48
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jascott1but yeah would think that k8s issue would be moving considering the interest in self hosting01:48
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reddreamsterHi, can I ask a question about how to configure different NIC names?01:49
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reddreamsterI want to add a new storage node, but it has different NIC names from others, is there a way to configure "storage_interface", "cluster_interface" for a specific node?01:51
kfox1111yeah. no idea to do it with ansible though. inc0 probably knows.01:52
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kfox1111hmm... ok now one of teh pieces left is figuring out how to inject the ca crt into the kickstart...01:54
jascott1finally got all compute kit up coming out of that container01:54
kfox1111which container?01:55
jascott1the orchestration container01:55
kfox1111oh. awesome. :)01:55
jascott1still got some config issues. but making progress. if only I knew how to configure openstack01:55
kfox1111yeah, openstack's a real beast to configure. :/01:56
SamYapleif ive learned anything... the answer to that is "very carefully with lots of trial and error"01:56
jascott1using kubectl to create configs from /etc/kolla which is generated by kolla-ansible01:56
kfox1111indeed.01:56
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kfox1111nice.01:57
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kolla-slack1<inc0> @jascott1 ksp is way better on pc because mods01:59
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jascott1inc0 cool yeah I bought it on humble02:00
kolla-slack1<inc0>  Cool, see you on mun02:01
jascott1laterer!02:01
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openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP deploy with ansible inside orchestration container   * Add deploy playbook   * Add Dockerfile   * Also uses regular filenames with underscores as key in configmaps     since kubectl creates them from file this way  https://review.openstack.org/52084702:19
inc0jascott1: add one more blank line below commit msg title02:19
inc0and rebase the thing:)02:19
jascott1inc0 thanks will do02:20
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openstackgerritXinliang Liu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Make fluentd enabled configurable  https://review.openstack.org/52814302:27
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Jeffrey4lkfox1111, rwellum could you review this https://review.openstack.org/471704 ?02:43
Jeffrey4linc0, still around?02:43
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Jeffrey4li found the root cause of ubuntu + ceph jewel issue. we can wait until UCA fixed it. should be soon.02:44
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rwellumLooking now Jeffrey4l02:49
Jeffrey4lrwellum, thanks. i am afraid whether it will break kolla-k8s.02:49
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rwellumJeffrey4l: what's this k8s code used for?02:55
Jeffrey4lrwellum, i am not sure. i guess so.02:55
Jeffrey4lso wanna confirm with yours ;)02:56
rwellumI don't think kolla-k8s touches/uses this - but I'm looking.02:56
rwellumI'm using 1.8.5 btw - so 1.6.4 is pretty ancient02:56
rwellumkfox1111: (on vacation) - you know what this is used for??02:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove the ceilometer api and move bootstrap into notification  https://review.openstack.org/51669502:57
inc0Jeffrey4l: this bug you linked in the morning? yeah it seems like it03:00
inc0good to know03:00
inc0Jeffrey4l: I'm still strugling with ceph gates :/03:01
Jeffrey4l inc0 hrm, will check it later03:02
inc0https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512779/03:03
rwelluminc0: re the build, I pulled my own Openstack repo - and aggregated them under one repo. I discovered today that tox in kolla, gets version numbers from git. Well I broke that because I effectively had a clone of each Service code, but no .git per service - if that makes any sense...03:03
Jeffrey4lrwellum, thanks.03:03
Jeffrey4li thought it is used by kolla-k8s.03:03
inc0if you figure out at least potential problem with that I'd appreciate it03:03
Jeffrey4lroger. i will try.03:03
inc0I ran out of ideas :/03:04
inc0rwellum: yeah it maybe it03:04
inc0thank you Jeffrey4l03:04
Jeffrey4lnp03:05
Jeffrey4ldinner time. see ya.03:05
inc0have a good one03:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add configurable rabbitmq monitoring user  https://review.openstack.org/51738603:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: skydive: add check task  https://review.openstack.org/52742203:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove the unnecessary register.yml from upgrade.yml for Nova  https://review.openstack.org/52656603:05
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kfox1111rwellum: Jeffrey4l: the idea was that k8s wasnt releasing their apiserver with ceph support (ceph needs to be in the same conttainer) so the dynamic provisioner didn't work.03:13
kfox1111there is an external dynamic provisioner now, so we never got to the point of fully integrating that container. so I think it is currently unused.03:14
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SamYaplekfox1111: ah so no more fancy mounting needed?03:18
SamYaplefantastic03:18
kfox1111the code in question was to get k8s to be able to ask ceph for volumes for backing things like mysql/rabbit.03:18
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rwellumAh thanks. So we really don't need this change then Jeffrey4l  - what made you change it?03:22
kfox1111k8s is up to 1.8.5 too last I looked.03:22
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iuoiumorning03:34
iuoiu早上好03:35
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sdakeJeffrey4l around?03:36
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Jeffrey4lsdake, yep03:37
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Jeffrey4lrwellum, kfox1111 so do you think if we should remove the image if it is not used03:38
kfox1111I'm ok with getting rid of it if jascott1 doesn't want it for the operator.03:39
rwellumSame03:39
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Jeffrey4lcool. thanks.03:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: mongodb: handle "user already exists" error on Debian  https://review.openstack.org/51937103:41
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reddreamsterHi, can I ask a question how to use a per host settings about kolla-ansible? I want to add a new storage node, but it has different NIC names from others, is there a way to configure "storage_interface", "cluster_interface" for a specific node?03:59
reddreamsterI made a host_vars directory along with my inventory file, and create a 'storage06' file inside it, and the content is storage_interface: "enp2s0f0"... It doesn't work, kolla-ansible still use the configurations in global.yml04:02
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reddreamsterAnd I also try to modify the inventory file like this: storage06 storage_interface=enp2s0f0 cluster_interface=enp130s0f1, doesn't help either04:04
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masbergood afternoon, I am reading kolla-ansible zun documentaion and it says kuryr does not support DHCP networks. Does it means I need to assign the IP manually?04:46
masberalso is there any document to enable SR-IOV?04:53
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement ceph fs  https://review.openstack.org/50840705:31
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openstackgerritcaowei proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add CephFS backend in Manila  https://review.openstack.org/51619605:51
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reddreamsterPardon me to ask my question again. I want to add a new storage node, but it has different NIC names from others, is there a way to configure "storage_interface", "cluster_interface" for a specific node?06:05
reddreamsterI made a host_vars directory along with my inventory file, and create a 'storage06' file inside it, and the content is storage_interface: "enp2s0f0"... It doesn't work, kolla-ansible still use the configurations in global.yml06:05
reddreamsterAnd I also tried to modify the inventory file like this: storage06 storage_interface=enp2s0f0 cluster_interface=enp130s0f1, but it doesn't help either.06:05
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: [DNM]Test squash docker images layers for current built image  https://review.openstack.org/52587106:09
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: [DNM]Test squash all the layers  https://review.openstack.org/52589206:13
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: [DNM] Test without squash  https://review.openstack.org/52588206:13
openstackgerritpangliye proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: put polling.yaml to kolla-ansible  https://review.openstack.org/52789606:30
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duonghqJeffrey4l, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527896/ I don't understand your comment, can you explain it06:42
openstackgerritTone Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Change the docker daemon name in Debain 9 on Arm  https://review.openstack.org/52271206:43
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Jeffrey4lduonghq, polling.yaml exist on the heat side. copy it to kolla is bad idea. because we can not synchronize these two files.06:50
Jeffrey4lduonghq, so use overwrite the file if it is configured by operator is better.06:53
Jeffrey4ljust like policy.jsonfile.06:54
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duonghqJeffrey4l, got it, thanks07:16
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement blazar ansible role  https://review.openstack.org/45475207:31
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hrwmorning07:40
hrwthanks for accepting my patches during night07:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: kubernetes: get it working on AArch64 as well  https://review.openstack.org/46404507:49
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hrwis there a way to tell ">= 0.18" in docker file when it comes to pip stuff?07:55
hrwI may find a way08:00
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egonzalezhrw, you can do in jinja "set pip_packages_named_list_append = package>=version" https://docs.openstack.org/kolla/latest/admin/image-building.html#package-customisation08:02
hrwegonzalez: I am changing pip macro to get "" around each pip package08:02
hrwegonzalez: but a way you point looks easier ;D08:03
hrwwant to get rid of openssl 1.0 from openstack-base image08:04
hrwINFO:kolla.image.build.openstack-base:Collecting python-qpid-proton===0.17.0 (from -c requirements/upper-constraints.txt (line 349))08:05
hrwok, other place to change then. not image08:05
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hrwwhich repo/project openstack-base comes from?08:14
egonzalezhrw, global reequirements https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/kolla/common/config.py#L27908:15
hrwthanks08:15
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Add squid cache proxy to speed up build  https://review.openstack.org/52145008:15
hrwwill propose bump08:16
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Add collectd in ci to collect system information  https://review.openstack.org/52819708:18
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hrwor stay. too many changes for simple change08:22
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: skydive: bump version to 0.15  https://review.openstack.org/52745508:26
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jascott1anyone know nova container password for nova user?08:34
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jascott1troubleshooting and want to try this fix but dont have root https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E64747_01/E68930/html/osrns-issues-22244208.html08:40
openstackgerrityanpeifei proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: It has to tell user how to set the internet ip  https://review.openstack.org/52820308:40
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reddreamsterHello, how to replace a disk of ceph OSD using kolla-ansible? My assumption is: 1. stop container. 2. wait ceph cluster to be stable. 3. replace disk. 4. label disk and journal. 5. kolla-ansible deploy. Any suggestion?09:02
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openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP deploy with ansible inside orchestration container   * Add deploy playbook   * Add Dockerfile   * Also uses regular filenames with underscores as key in configmaps     since kubectl creates them from file this way  https://review.openstack.org/52084709:13
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openstackgerritpangliye proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: put polling.yaml to kolla-ansible  https://review.openstack.org/52789609:24
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dardelean_morning09:48
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mewaldwho's wearing his review pants today? :D10:54
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hrwmewald: I do not see any patches from you in review ;D11:13
hrwah, sorry - gerrit shown only merged one11:13
hrws11:13
hrwmewald: can you abandon your old dropped out submissions?11:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: skydive: bump version to 0.15  https://review.openstack.org/52745512:02
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update kolla_internal_fqdn to database_address since it defined in all.yml  https://review.openstack.org/52824212:05
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mewaldhrw:  what do you mean by "can you abandon your old dropped out submissions?" ?13:07
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hrwmewald: patches in review can have one of few statuses: open (ready for review), merged (review done, code in), merge conflict (code in repo moved on, author did not bothered to update) and abandoned (author decided to not continue work)13:08
hrwmewald: patch which is in 3rd state (merge conflict) and is >month old looks like forgotten by author13:09
hrwmewald: and you have few such13:10
mewaldah ok I will check13:10
hrwthx13:11
hrwit is easy to forget about old patches.13:11
hrwI had moments with ~20 opened patches for kolla13:12
hrwand did devleopment on 3-4 different machines13:12
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mewaldhaha yeah13:12
hrwstill have some 'to-merge/something' branches on them13:13
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mewaldhrw: better now?13:20
hrwmewald: much better. thanks13:21
mewaldCan I get reviews in return? :D Trying to bribe my way to a merge xD13:24
hrw;)13:28
hrwhave to finish some work first13:29
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mewaldsure :)13:29
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix ironic inspector public endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/52827814:07
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hrwKolla is a curse. My talk about it for devconf.cz conference got rejected ;(14:52
mewaldshit … what was going to be the title / content?14:58
hrwI submitted paper for devconf.cz "Kolla: the other way to deploy OpenStack using Docker containers" but it got rejected14:59
hrwall buzzwords got included and did not helped14:59
hrwhappens14:59
mewaldyeah I've submitted a lessons learned from running Kolla in production for 2016 DOST (I think) and was rejected, too15:00
mewaldI am getting the feeling OpenStack is becoming commodity ;)15:00
hrwgood part: I did not yet started slides15:01
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Add collectd in ci to collect system information  https://review.openstack.org/52819715:03
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mewaldgood thing :D15:05
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openstackgerritYushiro FURUKAWA proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fixups to deployment docs.  https://review.openstack.org/52412515:10
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mewaldQuick question: we're currently using ubuntu binary installation and are think about moving to source installation. I am a bit afraid that the migration and development effort will be huge. What do you guys think? Is source as well maintained and functional as binary?15:52
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kolla-slack1<egonzalez> mewald, i'd say ubuntu is better from source than binary16:08
inc0good morning16:08
kolla-slack1<egonzalez> s/better/works better/16:08
inc0yeah, I second what Eduardo said, source in ubuntu is much more stable16:09
inc0even few days ago we've found breaking issue caused by ubuntu cloud archive versioning16:09
inc0if you just switch binary to source in globals and run upgrade, that should do it16:10
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mewaldcool, thanks for the input guys!16:24
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mwynneinc0: Follow up question from yesterday: Is the documentation correct for specifying configs for specific hosts? `/etc/kolla/config/nova/myhost/nova.conf`?16:58
mwynneinc0: Or do I drop the `nova`?16:58
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inc0mwynne: https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/roles/neutron/tasks/config.yml#L64 you're correct16:59
inc0where {{ inventory_hostname }} is what you specified in inventory17:00
inc0so it might be IP17:00
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mwynneinc0: So I do need the service directory hey?17:02
mwynneThanks again :)17:02
inc0one more way to do per-host configuration is via inventory17:03
inc0so for example host1 has different interfaces than host217:03
inc0when you fill your inventory you can do sth like "host1 api_interface=eth0"17:04
inc0and "host2 api_interface=ens2"17:04
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kfox1111inc0: you know ansible pretty well. is its ssh mechanism plugable?17:04
inc0pluggable how?17:04
kfox1111could you replace it with kubectl exec instead?17:04
inc0hmm, that's a good question17:05
inc0I have no idea17:05
kfox1111pared with a pod inventory, that would make for a very interesting tool.17:05
inc0I agree, but isn't the idea that you shouldn't do kubectl exec at all?;)17:06
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inc0mwynne: one warning about thing I described, with inventory17:06
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inc0if you specify api_interface in globals, it'll override inventory one17:06
kfox1111there are times when it comes in handy.17:06
inc0so it's either or17:06
kfox1111and some way to do a pdsh like execution on it would be useful to. ansible's pretty good at that.17:07
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kfox1111but the constant ssh key madness grows really tiring. :/17:07
kfox1111kubectl exec doesn't have that problem.17:07
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inc0https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/plugins/connection.html17:07
inc0hmm seems like it's possible17:07
kfox1111interesting. thanks.17:08
inc0well there is no kubectl plugin, but it's a thing17:08
inc0writing it should be straightforward17:08
inc0especially that docker is there17:08
* kfox1111 nods17:09
inc0https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/lib/ansible/plugins/connection/docker.py17:09
inc0doesn't look too hard to write too17:09
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mwynneinc0: Oh, ok, that's good to know. Thanks!17:10
inc0https://github.com/ansible/ansible/tree/devel/lib/ansible/plugins/inventory and these are inventory plugins, we'd need one of these for kube too17:11
inc0after that, should be ok17:11
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inc0openstack inventory driver uses metadata to specify group and whatnot17:14
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mwynneinc0: Is there a common or suggested method for modifying configs that require different configs on different hosts, for example, enabling DVR?17:26
mwynneIs one way "better" or "more supported" by you guys?17:27
inc0for dvr you just enable_dvr: yes17:27
mwynneWell, that's handy haha17:29
mwynneinc0: in globals?17:29
inc0yes17:31
inc0and afair you need to add your compute nodes to network group17:31
inc0so l3 agents lands there17:31
inc0let me look through documentation17:31
mwynneAh, yeah that sounds familiar.17:31
inc0and I don't think we have docs for that...17:33
inc0enable_neutron_dvr is proper variable17:33
mwynneMetadata agent needs to end up on the compute nodes as well.17:33
inc0but not dhcp agent I think17:33
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inc0ehh17:36
inc0mwynne: I'll ask you for a favor17:36
inc0if you can tell me for sure which services should land where, I'll write docs how to enable DVR17:36
mwynneinc0: Correct, I believe.17:38
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mwynneinc0: I believe only l3 and metadata agent need to land on compute nodes. That's it for services.17:39
inc0then add compute nodes to neutron_l3_agent and metadata_agent in inventory17:39
inc0or...17:39
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inc0no I think all you need to do is enable_neutron_dvr17:40
mwynneThat makes sense, and is really handy :)17:42
k_mouzainc0, quick one from me as well, regarding vpnaas. I've enabled it and the containers and services are up and running fine, but a) there is no horizon tab for it and b) the init-vpn scipt fails because the neutron client cannot "connect to the neutron server"17:42
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inc0k_mouza: we might not have vpnaas in horizon17:43
k_mouzainc0: I'm pretty sure I've seen it in previous releases17:44
inc0you're using binary or source17:45
inc0?17:45
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mwynneinc0: Any idea why horizon looks like this for me? https://imgur.com/a/M6PT717:49
inc0hmm, soo don't ask me why, but try to enable horizon_logging_debug17:50
inc0and see if it helps17:50
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mwynneinc0: horizon logging? or openstack_logging_debug17:52
mwynneI've enabled debug logging for everything17:53
mwynnebrowser's console has some errors: ReferenceError: horizon is not defined17:54
mwynneReferenceError: $ is not defined17:54
mwynneNot particularly helpful though17:54
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bkeroHm, i'm getting a docker build error making sensu-client from stable/pike18:08
bkerohttp://paste.openstack.org/show/629083/18:09
bkeroWith the key error probably being INFO:kolla.image.build.sensu-client:/bin/sh: 1: /opt/sensu/embedded/bin/gem: not found18:10
bkeroYeah, this is totally failing http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/kolla/tree/docker/sensu/sensu-client/Dockerfile.j2#n7518:24
bkero(I'm using a xenial base)18:24
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mewaldIs there a reason why we're installing all services from tarball except gnocchi which is clone from git?18:38
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bkeroI think this afternoon I'm going to make a test improvement to outout rendered dockerfiles. I think it would make debugging much easier.18:44
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inc0mwynne: ehh...it seems static files in horizon breaks in different ways from time to time:S18:53
mwynneinc0: Is there anything I can do about this?18:56
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inc0check on horizon channel18:59
inc0they're more likely to help you18:59
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inc0I'll join too to make sure all kolla qs are answered19:00
mwynnesounds good19:01
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inc0mwynne: you're building your images?19:09
mwynneinc0: I'm not building them myself.19:12
mwynneI'm assuming they're just getting pulled from docker hub19:13
inc0tagged ocata?19:13
inc0or 4.0.019:13
mwynne4.0.019:15
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mwynneBad move?19:15
inc0ok...they're *really* old19:15
inc0bad move.19:15
inc0do openstack_release: ocata19:15
mwynnehaha, of course.19:15
mwynneSo, what's the correct way to manage this stuff. I've been told in the past to do something like `pip install kolla-ansible==4.0.0`, then use that version as the openstack_release.19:16
mwynneBut apparently that's not right19:16
inc0that's right if you build your images19:16
inc0thing is19:16
inc0we just few weeks ago started to push images automatically19:17
inc0before that it was nasty19:17
inc0also do pip install kolla-ansible==4.*19:17
inc0now you can relatively safely pull images from hub19:17
inc0but openstack_release should be ocata19:18
inc0or pike19:18
inc0or master19:18
inc0you get the gist19:18
mwynneYeah, yeah, sounds good.19:19
mwynneGood to know.19:19
mwynneThanks again :)19:19
inc0np19:19
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mwynneOne more question I guess...19:20
mwynnebinary vs source?19:20
mwynnepros/cons?19:20
inc0centos or ubuntu?19:20
mwynnedocumented somewhere?19:21
mwynneubuntu for me19:21
inc0source.19:21
mwynneI'm assuming source means each service is built from source?19:21
inc0yes19:21
inc0openstack service that is19:21
mwynnerather than apt-get installing bins?19:21
mwynneyes.19:21
inc0exactly19:21
inc0thing is19:21
mwynneRight on19:21
inc0Ubuntu cloud archive is quite disliked around here19:22
inc0they break19:22
inc0quite a bit19:22
inc0for centos it's better as rh seems to be better at packaging openstack19:22
inc0in any case, I personally see little benefit of using binary, but some people do19:22
mwynneInteresting. Good to know.19:23
inc0signing packages and trust in red hat packaging is a factor19:23
inc0so with centos, it's judgement call and both binary and source are quite reliable19:23
inc0for ubuntu, just use source.19:23
mwynneGood stuff.19:23
mwynneDo many people build their own images?19:23
openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP deploy with ansible inside orchestration container   * Add deploy playbook   * Add Dockerfile   * Also uses regular filenames with underscores as key in configmaps     since kubectl creates them from file this way  https://review.openstack.org/52084719:24
inc0mwynne: almost everyone19:25
inc0it's only now that we can say that hub images are even usable19:25
mwynneOh, really?19:25
inc0yes19:25
inc0I mean, you want updates to your packages19:25
inc0like low level libs (libssl and such)19:26
inc0images in hub are notoriosly stale unless build automatically19:26
inc0that's why I'm doing due diligence on images I use in anything docker19:26
inc0and only now we managed to build infrastructure to build images automatically and push to hub19:26
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inc0now we're addding testing of deploy in between19:27
mwynneOk, interesting. Thanks for all this info. I really appreciate it.19:32
mwynneIs there documentation on building your own images?19:32
inc0https://docs.openstack.org/kolla/latest/admin/index.html#building-container-images19:32
inc0pip install kolla==4.*19:32
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inc0kolla-build --base ubuntu --type source19:32
inc0that's basically it19:33
inc0you probably want to run local registry too19:33
inc0then add --namespace <<ip of registry>> --push19:33
inc0https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/user/multinode.html#deploy-a-registry19:33
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mwynneinc0: You're a life saver.19:35
inc0lol19:35
mwynneSeriously. I really appreciate all the info.19:36
inc0any time, for me it's all the things we didn't document19:36
inc0so if you're feeling like giving back, making doc changes with all the issues you couldn't find from docs would be great way:)19:37
mwynneYeah, I'd love to do something like that. What's the process for that? Pull requests on github?19:37
inc0no, gerrit19:38
mwynneOh, of course. How do I go about getting accounts etc?19:38
inc0https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#development-workflow19:38
inc0let me link few docs19:38
inc0https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html <- this one is great doc19:39
inc0let me know if you have any issues with setting this thing up19:40
inc0I'll really appreciate if you'd commit doc changes back. It's hard for us to make docs clear and easy because well...we know this stuff so we don't know what's unclear:)19:40
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mwynneYeah, definitely. We've all been there haha19:41
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mewaldHi Kolla, please take https://review.openstack.org/#/c/488367/  and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485150/ as my Christmas presents. I'll take reviews as such xD19:49
inc0lol mewald :)19:50
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mewald;)20:04
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diablo_rojoinc0, I would like to introduce you to Angeh :)20:09
inc0hello Angeh :)20:09
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AngehHello Inco:-)20:09
inc0so, I understand you want to join our merry group :) you're most welcome!20:10
Angeh:-) thank you20:10
bkeroHi there :)20:10
AngehHi20:10
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inc0as diablo_rojo probably told you, we have mentorship program, so if you want to join, I'll have few questions for you20:11
AngehAm still setting up my environment with Kolla20:11
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inc0that's great first step:)20:11
AngehYea. I will like to joi20:11
inc0so, you're based in US? or generally US compatible timezone?:)20:11
AngehI am based in Cameroon (Africa)20:12
AngehMy timezone is GMT +120:12
inc0oh, that's cool! we don't have any Africans around here, very interesting!:)20:12
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Angeh:-)20:12
inc0well, we have plenty of cores in Europe, so I'm sure we'll find you some mentor in tz that won't require you to stay super late20:13
inc0that being said, I'll be very happy to answer your questions when I'm around20:13
AngehOkay. Thank you20:13
inc0so, question number one, ansible or kubernetes?:)20:14
AngehKubernetes:-)20:14
inc0oh that's cool, I'm afraid we don't have anyone in EU working on k8s piece, but that's ok20:14
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inc0so, k8s is still quite complex trhing to setup, jascott1 here is working hard to make it easier, but well, it's work in progress20:15
AngehOk. Am not familiar with ansiblw but i will take a look at it.20:15
inc0my advice would be to start with ansible20:16
inc0at least to get your bearing around openstack itself20:16
AngehOkay. I will look at ansible then20:16
inc0in fact, I have an idea for you to get you right to the thick of things and help me out with little project I ahve:)20:17
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inc0so I have a homework for you;)20:17
AngehOkay20:17
inc0https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526200/20:17
inc0this is my review, where I wanted to simplyfy basic documentation for kolla-ansible setup20:17
inc0we call it quickstart20:17
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inc0how about two of us will work on this particular piece of documentation?20:18
AngehOkay. That will be great20:18
inc0you will be invaluable help because you'll spot all the things that aren't clear for someone without any prior knowledge of kolla20:18
AngehOkay20:19
inc0and me and other cores will handle all the missing knowledge gaps, so together we can get great doc going:)20:19
inc0do you have experience with gerrit at all?20:19
AngehNo. I dont20:20
inc0https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html20:20
inc0this is great document on how pushing patches to openstack works20:20
AngehOkay20:20
inc0http://logs.openstack.org/00/526200/1/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/68ec2ff/html/user/quickstart.html and this is my new inprogress version of document20:21
inc0so let's start with this:20:21
inc0how about you give this document a try and install kolla-ansible following it20:21
inc0?20:21
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AngehOkay20:22
inc0and after that if you have any questions or spot any typo...pretty much whatever you feel could be imporved, leave comment under this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526200/20:22
AngehSo if i am correct you would like me to follow that documebt to install kolla-ansible20:22
inc0no matter how small of an issue you spot, even if you're not sure if that's an issue at all, comment on it please20:23
inc0yes20:23
inc0this is quickstart for kolla ansible using our dockerhub images20:23
AngehOkay cool20:23
inc0I tried to make it as easy as I can to install kolla-ansible20:23
inc0that was goal of this document20:23
AngehOkay20:23
inc0so if you can just follow it and succeed - cool!20:23
Angeh:-)20:23
inc0if not, doc needs work so let me know in comment what was unclear20:24
AngehOkay20:24
inc0also please join us on our weekly meetings https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla every Wed at 16 utc20:24
inc0not sure how many people will be there for next one and I'm pretty sure we'll cancel one afterwards because christmas20:25
inc0but this is best place to raise your issues that you feel need broaded community awareness20:25
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inc0also feel free to introduce yourself on Monday during euro work hours to our EU community, believe or not but it's actually bigger than US:)20:26
inc0we're kinda atypical project in this regard - most of our contributors are either from Europe or Asia20:27
inc0so adding Africa to the mix is super cool!20:27
AngehOkay. That will be great20:28
inc0cool:) do you have any questions?20:28
AngehNo for now:-)20:29
inc0awesome, well I'm online all the time, just not looking, if you have anything, just send me msg here on private msg, I'll reply when I'm back20:29
inc0and good luck with Quickstart thing:) I really mean it when I'm saying that your help and fresh view on it will be invaluable20:30
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jascott1inc0 got any docs/pointers for ceph and cinder integration20:39
inc0for kolla-ansible yeah quite a bit20:39
jascott1should be same-ish20:40
inc0it's mostly 2 things - configs which will be relevant with kolla-ansible20:40
inc0and putting things like keyring file into containers, whcih will be secrets/configmaps20:40
inc0https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/reference/external-ceph-guide.html20:40
inc0let's try with this20:40
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jascott1nice20:41
jascott1ok thanks that doc looks like what I needed. let me run thru that and will holler back20:41
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kolla-slack1<egonzalez> mewald, re gnocchi from git, gnocchi was moved outside openstack umbrella and no longer creates tarballs20:56
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rwellumkfox1111: you around - fluent-bit question22:01
kfox1111hey.22:01
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rwellumIf I want to add kafka as a backend - I know the fluent-bit image supports the plugin. But the backend is not added to the template.22:03
kfox1111sec...22:04
kfox1111back. sorry. the boy needed attention.22:07
kfox1111yeah. looks like the chart needs a patch or two.22:07
kfox1111patches welcome. :)22:08
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kfox1111the other option is to use the fluent backend, process it there and then send it to kafka.22:11
rwellumFor that I'd need another fluentd container right?22:15
kfox1111yeah.22:15
inc0kfox1111: qq which hpc scheduler are you guys running?22:15
kfox1111not sure there is a fluent chart yet. but there really should be.22:15
kfox1111fluent-bit is for shipping. getting the logs off the box.22:15
kfox1111fluent is better at log processing. digging out useful info out of them.22:15
kfox1111inc0: slurm.22:15
rwellumyeah I read that too22:15
kfox1111used quite a few over time, but slurm's been one of the best.22:16
rwellumQuestion about adding kafka. - Say I add kafka to the template - it looks a lot like 'es' but there's also a 'topic' field. How do I test this? I haven't done chart development before.22:16
rwellumI guess checkit out, make the change run locally22:17
kfox1111just copy the es block, change es to kafka and add the extra config field.22:17
kfox1111then add the defaults to values.yaml22:17
rwellumI also have to add it here: https://github.com/kubernetes/charts/blob/master/stable/fluent-bit/templates/config.yaml22:18
rwellum?22:18
kfox1111yeah. thats the es block I was reffering to. sorry.22:18
rwellumOk. Other part I am struggling with is what the darn kafka fields are- doesn't seem documented that well.22:19
rwellumBut I can play with this.22:19
kfox1111I don't have too much experience but java in general always hurts me whenever I touch it. :/22:20
kfox1111I'd be inclined to try the fluent-bit+fluent thing for scaling. and only touch kafka if you absolutely need it.22:21
rwellumI mean like what the def. of 'topic' is :)22:21
kfox1111have you used kafka before?22:22
rwellumNo... I thought I was outputting to ELK, until they told me otherwise :/22:22
rwellumI'm lucky kafka i added to the image tbh22:22
kfox1111ah. yeah, I'd avoid it then. it will be way overkill I think.22:23
kfox1111and it will be a pain I'm thinking.22:23
kfox1111its similar to rabbit.22:23
kfox1111pubsub kind of message queue stuff.22:23
rwellumYou mean you'd avoid kafka? I don't think I have a choice.22:23
kfox1111you may need to do fluent-bit -> kafka -> fluent -> elasticsearch -> kibana just to get it to work too.22:24
rwellumYeah I bet - bleugh22:24
kfox1111why? manager requiring it?22:24
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rwellumYes. There's a data-aggregator in china somewhere which includes ELK, and other - and the standard input is kafka.22:25
kfox1111ah. well, if you don't have to deploy/manage kafka yourself, then I remove my anti-recommendation. ;)22:25
kfox1111the topic I think would come from them.22:26
rwellumAhaha :)22:26
rwellumI'll give this chart change a go and see what happens. If it works I'll push it as a patch :)22:27
kfox1111ok. cool. thanks. :)22:27
rwellumno ty - as usual :)22:27
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jascott1inc0 kfox1111 RSVP for helm summit https://helmsummitpdx-feb2018.splashthat.com/23:13
jascott1its free but limited (apparently)23:13
kfox1111jascott1: thx.23:14
kfox1111will ask work.23:15
jascott1hope it works out. we need you!23:15
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kfox1111I'll tell mgmt you said that. it will help. :)23:24
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