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| duonghq | inc0, should we put some doc in our gate output, like this: http://logs.openstack.org/64/494864/1/check-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-ha-oooq/cc09281/logs/overcloud-controller-0/var/ | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Prepare Pike branch for kolla https://review.openstack.org/499217 | 01:37 |
| rstarmer | question ... if I want to add a service to my running environment, is that a "reconfigure" operation or a "deploy" operation. | 01:42 |
| rstarmer | i.e. I added designate: "yes" to my globals.yml, do I reconfigure, or deploy? or upgrade? | 01:42 |
| kolla-slack | <inc0> Duong that looks awesome, we should definitely | 01:53 |
| kolla-slack | <inc0> Rstarmer deploy | 01:53 |
| rstarmer | inc0: thanks, was what I thought, but figured I'd check :D | 01:53 |
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| ulf` | inc0: ping | 03:04 |
| inc0 | here | 03:06 |
| ulf` | inc0: check lync pls and help Theresa out if you can | 03:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Revert "Fix modify external ceph.conf not restart related containers" https://review.openstack.org/499055 | 03:28 |
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| rstarmer | thought I'd throw caution to the wind and try to get designate running. seems like the bootstrap process didn't complete cleanly. is there a way to re-run the bootstrap? Do I just blow away the containers and re-run deploy? | 06:57 |
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| egonzalez | pbourke, around for a couple of questions around dev mode? | 07:45 |
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| manheim_ | what is nova-ssh used for exactly? | 08:22 |
| egonzalez | Manheim, cold migration with no shared storage iirc | 08:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla master: Implement Almanach Docker images https://review.openstack.org/498938 | 08:50 |
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| pbourke | egonzalez: sure | 09:21 |
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| egonzalez | pbourke, dev mode is not supported in multinode right? | 09:21 |
| pbourke | rstarmer: depending on the error you may be able to just 'docker rm bootstrap_designate' and redeploy | 09:22 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: no it works in multinode | 09:22 |
| magicboiz | pike | 09:22 |
| egonzalez | ^^ and drop designate db, or bootstrap wont be executed | 09:22 |
| pbourke | ah true | 09:23 |
| pbourke | sometimes a destroy is easier | 09:23 |
| rstarmer | pbourke: I blew them away, and have made progress. but my current environment is now tweaked, because designate is somehow unable to talk to neutron. | 09:23 |
| rstarmer | I did drop the database | 09:23 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, i mean in multinode, with local code, remote nodes wont have the same code as is only cloned from a git repo | 09:23 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: yeah that's true | 09:24 |
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| egonzalez | rstarmer, what is failing between designate-neutron? | 09:25 |
| rstarmer | designate is unable to retrieve floating IPs from neutron | 09:25 |
| egonzalez | rstarmer, fixed IPs works? | 09:25 |
| rstarmer | so when I try to associate a FIP to a machine, the assoication fails apparently due to designate's attempt to register the ip | 09:26 |
| rstarmer | that's a good question. I've not yet found all the 'openstack *' commands that let me inspect what's being done | 09:26 |
| egonzalez | rstarmer, https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/designate-guide.html | 09:27 |
| egonzalez | there are at the end some verification steps | 09:27 |
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| rstarmer | I missed that page, will look now. | 09:29 |
| rstarmer | I did miss some of the parameters | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement Almanach ansible role https://review.openstack.org/498944 | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: openstack-base: link everything with OpenSSL 1.0.x instead of 1.1 https://review.openstack.org/498811 | 09:43 |
| hrw | morning | 09:43 |
| hrw | forgotten comma hurts. | 09:43 |
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| rstarmer | egonzalez: the private addreses are registering in designate now. but adding a floating IP continues to fail. | 10:03 |
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| egonzalez | rstarmer, can you share logs from designate sink? and also designate.conf | 10:03 |
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| rstarmer | trying to find the machine that has the error in it. | 10:04 |
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| rstarmer | no errores in the sink log, but worker has this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/620009/ | 10:10 |
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| rstarmer | designate-sink/designate.conf: http://paste.openstack.org/show/620010/ | 10:12 |
| rstarmer | sink had been complaining about zone issues, but that's no longer the case. | 10:13 |
| rstarmer | (with the zone id applied) | 10:13 |
| egonzalez | rstarmer, the worker errors is "normal", first message always fails https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1668290 | 10:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1668290 in Designate "First call to designate-worker raise error" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tim Simmons (timsim) | 10:15 |
| rstarmer | ah. ok | 10:15 |
| egonzalez | rstarmer, errors in neutron?, should be sending rpc messages to notifications_designate topic, where sink is listening | 10:16 |
| rstarmer | looking | 10:16 |
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| rstarmer | I can't find an error in neutron. | 10:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: cinder-volume: handle rtslib(-fb) situation in Debian https://review.openstack.org/499547 | 10:20 |
| egonzalez | rstarmer, where is failing, when create a floatingip, when associating to instances? | 10:22 |
| egonzalez | record in designate is created once associated to the instances | 10:23 |
| rstarmer | when associating the floating ip to an instance | 10:23 |
| egonzalez | rstarmer, can you share command used with error?, have you tried openstack client or neutron/nova clients? | 10:24 |
| rstarmer | openstack client: openstack server add floating ip testy-vm 53.255.81.64 | 10:25 |
| rstarmer | nova is what breaks (or horizon gives the same error) | 10:25 |
| rstarmer | this is the error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/620013/ | 10:26 |
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| hrw | egonzalez: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1714217 right? I then need to mention it in commit by "Fixes-bug: #1714217" or sth like that, right? | 10:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1714217 in kolla "cinder-volume can not be built for Debian" [Undecided,New] | 10:30 |
| egonzalez | hrw, Closes-Bug: #<bug_id> | 10:30 |
| hrw | thx | 10:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: cinder-volume: handle rtslib(-fb) situation in Debian https://review.openstack.org/499547 | 10:31 |
| egonzalez | rstarmer, based on the internal server error, should be a error log somewhere in neutron/nova/designate | 10:31 |
| hrw | egonzalez: so openssl one needs bug as well now? | 10:32 |
| egonzalez | hrw, yep | 10:32 |
| rstarmer | I've looked at all three, and I'm not finding it, will review again though. | 10:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: openstack-base: link everything with OpenSSL 1.0.x instead of 1.1 https://review.openstack.org/498811 | 10:35 |
| hrw | bug done, review refreshed | 10:35 |
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| manheim_ | I can see that now I can specify in globals.yml what tenant network types I want | 11:01 |
| rstarmer | egonzalez: Not sure if this helps, but I turned on debugging in neutron: http://paste.openstack.org/show/620029/ | 11:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Note about networks in zun guide https://review.openstack.org/497233 | 11:13 |
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| rstarmer | egonzalez: Oh, well, now that's interesting. I added all the networks to the domain... and it's happy!?!?! | 11:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: let openvswitch_db listener localhost https://review.openstack.org/497141 | 11:20 |
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| hrw | ok, jenkins said +1 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499547/ - anyone help me get this to Pike so we can do Debian there? | 11:37 |
| hrw | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498811/ still waits for Jenkins' care but you can vote already ;D (also Debian and even higher priority than previous one) | 11:38 |
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| pbourke | egonzalez: should we revert the ovs change? | 12:17 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, i'm testing it now, odl creates a connection to api_interface address, but not sure if the change really affects, also i'm unsure if will cause some random behaviour upgrading | 12:18 |
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| hrw | pbourke: can you give me 5 minutes of your time and look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498811/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499547/ patches? We need them in Pike to make Debian images working. Both passed Jenkins already. | 12:29 |
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| pbourke | hrw: sure | 12:54 |
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| vharsh | I am stuck in creating config-maps. Any leads? | 12:55 |
| vharsh | https://dpaste.de/LZwG | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement Almanach ansible role https://review.openstack.org/498944 | 12:56 |
| hrw | thanks guys | 12:57 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, was so quick blaming xD, ovs starts properly using odl (odl is broken for other reasons) | 12:57 |
| rwellum | Hi vharsh - you following the deployment guide? | 12:57 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: yey | 12:57 |
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| egonzalez | mgkwill, didnt found a way to make ODL work, not sure whats going on and why it worked before merge :/ Have you tried in your env? | 12:58 |
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| rwellum | egonzalez: Hi there - do you know if we're on to do the Pike images this week? | 13:05 |
| rwellum | I missed the meeting yesterday unfortunately. | 13:05 |
| egonzalez | rwellum, nope, we release around 15 sep | 13:06 |
| rwellum | egonzalez: I thought rc-1? | 13:06 |
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| egonzalez | rwellum, rc's are release candidates, not final release | 13:09 |
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| rwellum | egonzalez: last week I volunteered to help pull the branch, build images etc. No I can't find out who I was supposed to help and when. | 13:13 |
| egonzalez | rwellum, for release things Jeffrey4l is your guy | 13:14 |
| rwellum | egonzalez: ty - that it! | 13:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Ardelean proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: HyperV: fix FreeRDP console config https://review.openstack.org/499594 | 13:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: add ovs-dpdk docs https://review.openstack.org/493913 | 13:39 |
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| hrw | thanks | 13:42 |
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| hrw | and another Debian related patch got merged ;D | 13:58 |
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| vharsh | rwellum, yes. | 13:59 |
| vharsh | rwellum, Please excuse me for a late reply. | 13:59 |
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| vhosakot | rwellum: inc0 should we add the cross-project schedule that kolla members are planning to attend as well in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-schedule? It just has the schedule for Wed-Fri. Would be good to add the cross-project schedule too here like (discussion with Triple-O at 2pm on Mon) and the planned cinder meet at 4 pm on Mon. let me know if I can add them. | 14:02 |
| rwellum | I think so vhosakot | 14:03 |
| rwellum | vharsh - kolla-ansible or kolla-kubernetes? | 14:03 |
| vhosakot | rwellum: cool, I'll add them then, thanks. Are there any other cross-project meets other than with Triple-O (2pm on Mon) and cinder (4pm on Mon)? | 14:04 |
| vharsh | rwellum, kolla-kubernetes | 14:04 |
| vhosakot | krtaylor: do you know what time and day is the doc cross-project meeting you're attending. I'll add that as well in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-schedule. | 14:05 |
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| vhosakot | rwellum: inc0: let me know if I'm missing any cross-proj meet apart from the ones with triple-O, docs and cinder. Don't want to miss any cross-project goodness at PTG :) | 14:07 |
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| vhosakot | I thought inc0 wanted one with the infra guys? | 14:07 |
| vhosakot | I see infra is entire week and they have zuulv3 howto office hours. may be, we should also host howto office hours for kolla-ansible and kolla-k8s for any ops that are interested. I'll add this to the etherpad. | 14:11 |
| vhosakot | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-ptg-queens | 14:11 |
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| vharsh | rwellum, kubectl get pods --all-namespaces output = http://dpaste.com/286T7QE.txt Is there any system level dependency for creating mariadb configmaps? | 14:16 |
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| vhosakot | Rooms: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-PTG-Discussion-Rooms, Now/Next room topics: http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html, Full PTG schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Queens/Etherpads | 14:25 |
| vhosakot | I've added these three links in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-planning | 14:25 |
| vhosakot | also, join the IRC channel #openstack-ptg is you're interested. | 14:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, i will ping you when need release. | 14:27 |
| krtaylor | vhosakot, I don't but I'll check and update the schedule | 14:28 |
| vhosakot | krtaylor: perfect, thanks! do you know the day? | 14:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, hi, is there any patch which blocks rc release right now? | 14:29 |
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| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l, nothing critical atm, only this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499217/ and few others is being merged | 14:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Fix the order of the RHEL 7 server optional repository https://review.openstack.org/495154 | 14:31 |
| egonzalez | zuul says ~15 minutes to merge all pending | 14:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, roger. thanks. | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Prepare Pike branch for kolla https://review.openstack.org/499217 | 14:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Vitrage: add missing machine-learning Docker image https://review.openstack.org/499572 | 14:41 |
| k_mouza | hello all! I've deployed Murano with the latest kolla version (5.0.0), but when I try to deploy an application environment I'm getting "MuranoPlException: [socket.error]: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED" | 14:41 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: ack - thank you | 14:41 |
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| k_mouza | I've checked and the rabbitmq section is in the murano.conf file in the murano-engine container | 14:42 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l, everything in merge queue is merged, only post merge jobs actives | 14:42 |
| k_mouza | any ideas anyone? Thanks! | 14:42 |
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| rwellum | egonzalez: vhosakot - If I could get a this merged, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487972/ - then folks new to kolla-k8s like vharsh would have an easy way to get going. | 14:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. thanks. let us start release pike rc1? rwellum | 14:43 |
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| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: sure - sounds great | 14:45 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, do u have any idea how to release? | 14:45 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: here to learn :) | 14:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, clone this repo. https://github.com/openstack/releases | 14:46 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, there is the release rc tag demo from nova. | 14:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | https://github.com/openstack/releases/commit/9b56b0f8408f429343d6939a1681a026ff624593 | 14:47 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: give me a couple of minutes - I am running a meeting right now. | 14:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | try to push a patch looks like this one for openstack/kolla. | 14:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. | 14:48 |
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| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: ok have it cloned and am looking at the equivalent file for kolla | 14:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, try to push one. and let me check. | 14:57 |
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| Jeffrey4l | after this patch is merged. the pike branch and rc tag will be created automatically. | 14:57 |
| rwellum | Well Jeffrey4l - I'm not sure what I am adding exactly. Do I need this: | 14:59 |
| rwellum | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5XhSgJG6/ | 14:59 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, two part http://paste.openstack.org/show/620094/ | 15:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | one is release rc1, another is creating pike branch. rwellum | 15:03 |
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| krtaylor | vhosakot, I updated the schedule with more info, looks like the docs cross team discussion is at the same time we have scheduled to talk about it, so we need to shift that later in the week | 15:07 |
| krtaylor | I also added the docs team schedule to the detail planning etherpad | 15:08 |
| vhosakot | great, thanks krtaylor! | 15:08 |
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| vhosakot | great, good to link all links as a mesh graph so we can get to all links from one link ;) | 15:09 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: is the hash correct? | 15:09 |
| krtaylor | vhosakot, hehheh yep | 15:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, where is your patch? | 15:09 |
| vhosakot | ;) | 15:09 |
| krtaylor | vhosakot, I'll cover the docs restructure and templates discussion on Tuesday, we may want to set up a specific session with the team | 15:09 |
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| krtaylor | I'll discuss with inc0 later - have to go do downstream stuff for a while... | 15:10 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: still local, ready to push, just not sure about the hash value. | 15:10 |
| vhosakot | krtaylor: sure, yep, let's see what inc0 says. | 15:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, get the latest commit hash from kolla repo. | 15:11 |
| vhosakot | krtaylor: kolla needs some great docs for sure ;) | 15:11 |
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| vhosakot | I meant we do have great docs like QSG and for kolla-k8s too, but for like other configs like ceph, ODL, DPDK stuff.. the new tech docs I meant. | 15:12 |
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| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: ah makes sense - ok done. | 15:15 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: it's no 16 correct tho -it's 5? | 15:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, yep. 5.0.0.0rc1 | 15:17 |
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| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: seem to have a permissions error when pushing. | 15:22 |
| rwellum | remote: Permission to openstack/releases.git denied to RichWellum. | 15:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, have u ever use gerrit? you need that | 15:22 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: yes | 15:22 |
| rwellum | But this is github | 15:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, you need push code to https://review.openstack.org/ | 15:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, use "git review" | 15:23 |
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| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: oh ok done :) | 15:25 |
| rwellum | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499679/ | 15:26 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, -1, and fix the comments | 15:27 |
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| rwellum | Ok fixed Jeffrey4l | 15:31 |
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| egonzalez | rwellum, remove the "Merge" in commit title, is added once merged in github | 15:32 |
| rwellum | ok | 15:33 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, remove "" | 15:37 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, hi? | 15:40 |
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| k_mouza | anything on the Murano side please? Thanks again | 15:51 |
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| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: done - sorry for the delay | 15:55 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, LGTM. do the same thing for kolla-ansible. | 15:56 |
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| rwellum | Will do | 15:57 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, is it pushed? | 16:08 |
| rwellum | Nearly Jeffrey4l :) | 16:08 |
| rwellum | Keep getting $job interrupts | 16:08 |
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| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: done | 16:13 |
| rwellum | https://review.openstack.org/499698 | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update document to add note https://review.openstack.org/499370 | 16:13 |
| sdake | morning peeps | 16:13 |
| sdake | how goes the battle | 16:13 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, LGTM. thanks | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, release patch is pushed . | 16:15 |
| sdake | rwellum learning th erelease process - nice work dude! | 16:15 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l 5.0.0 or the rc1? | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | rc1 | 16:15 |
| sdake | i've kind of lost track of the schedule :) | 16:15 |
| rwellum | Thanks sdake - Jeffrey4l is being very patient with me :) | 16:15 |
| sdake | since the rest of the team is fully up to speed on the release process | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | we will release final release around Sep 13 | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, here is the release patch. please review. https://review.openstack.org/499698 | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | https://review.openstack.org/499679 | 16:17 |
| sdake | the nice thing about it being 105+ outside is when you forget about your coffee and come back 30 mins later, its still hot :) | 16:17 |
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| rwellum | vhosakot: regarding the schedule the etherpad is wrong/missing - Monday. | 16:21 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: be aware that Sep 13th is in the middle of the PTG - you ok with that? | 16:24 |
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| Jeffrey4l | this is scheduler data from openstack. | 16:25 |
| rwellum | sdake: you doing that fried egg on a sidewalk thing? | 16:25 |
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| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: ok then - I guess the community is happy with it. | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | gonna to sleep. bye guys | 16:26 |
| rwellum | thanks for help Jeffrey4l | 16:27 |
| vhosakot | rwellum: yeah, I'm finding Monday's sessions... can you add it if you find the link. | 16:27 |
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| rwellum | vhosakot: Which link - I think this is all up in the air right now. | 16:28 |
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| rwellum | Monday triple-o at 2pm, 4pm Cinder and Ironic | 16:29 |
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| sdake | rwellum i've got an outdoor swamp cooler | 16:33 |
| sdake | rwellum so I'm good :) | 16:33 |
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| rwellum | they still make those? | 16:34 |
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| inc0 | good morning | 16:57 |
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| rwellum | Morning inc0: here are the RC1 release patches. Please review. https://review.openstack.org/499698 and https://review.openstack.org/499679 | 17:01 |
| rwellum | :) | 17:01 |
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| inc0 | rwellum: already done:) cool! | 17:03 |
| inc0 | rwellum: I'm happy that you're learning release process | 17:04 |
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| rwellum | Me too! | 17:04 |
| rwellum | inc0: so looks like 4pm on Monday PTG we're pulling in Cinder and Ironic teams for x-platform discussions. | 17:07 |
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| inc0 | yeah I saw this mail this morning | 17:07 |
| inc0 | awesome | 17:07 |
| inc0 | thanks for organising that | 17:07 |
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| rwellum | Sure np. | 17:19 |
| rwellum | Can I use the same room we are sharing with triple-o at 2pm? | 17:20 |
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| inc0 | rwellum: not sure, worst case scenario we'll go to bar and order good discussion helpers | 17:45 |
| rwellum | Haha yeah - Cinder team likes that anyway - I think it's their default. | 17:46 |
| inc0 | also we'll have whole friday for discussions that raise from this | 17:47 |
| inc0 | if we want to get to nitty gritty details | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update document to add note https://review.openstack.org/499370 | 17:50 |
| EmilienM | inc0: I created a google calendar for tripleo sessions at PTG, you might want to look at it as an FYI https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/c1g5npdrsd3p37ods24s19gg0g%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics | 17:51 |
| EmilienM | I sent a note on the ML as well | 17:51 |
| inc0 | thanks EmilienM | 17:51 |
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| vhosakot | cool, thanks for google cal invite EmilienM | 18:03 |
| EmilienM | cool | 18:03 |
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| EmilienM | inc0: kolla/tripleo session will be in our room | 18:03 |
| EmilienM | just fyi | 18:03 |
| inc0 | sure | 18:04 |
| inc0 | I'll probably leave docs session in our room, as I don't expect everyone from Kolla to come to tripleo | 18:04 |
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| sdake | hey to those folks with the samsung tv - there are videos that show how to set the white balance and configure the tv properly | 18:17 |
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| sdake | the delta was night and day | 18:17 |
| sdake | the factory config is not correct | 18:18 |
| inc0 | interesting | 18:18 |
| inc0 | mind sharing a link sdake ? | 18:18 |
| sdake | youtube for the win :) | 18:18 |
| inc0 | ok I'll just look for it when I get home | 18:18 |
| sdake | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU3pO0CxNsE | 18:19 |
| sdake | this gay has a great setup | 18:19 |
| sdake | i watched a movie i've watched 100 times atleast | 18:19 |
| sdake | (via blue ray) | 18:19 |
| sdake | with the changes it is super impressive | 18:19 |
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| sdake | ya logan is amazingly different | 18:25 |
| sdake | colors are perfect | 18:25 |
| vhosakot | I've always used the factory setting | 18:25 |
| vhosakot | will check the video | 18:26 |
| vhosakot | for few months, we were watching sports in movie mode and movies in sports mode until I noticed it recently. | 18:28 |
| rwellum | Hey sdake - I have a running kolla-k8s OS, and used init-runonce to set it up, create a demo vm and assign a floating ip... I take a look at the demo vm and can connect to it np from my host using the vnc information. But ssh - no luck. When I look at the networking, I have two networks 10.0.0.x and 10.0.2.x (demo and public) - but I don't have these routes on my host. Should I? | 18:29 |
| sdake | i don't know if you should have the routes on your host | 18:29 |
| sdake | that "just works" or me (tm) | 18:29 |
| rwellum | I feel it should just work too - I mean neutron is using the interface I provide. | 18:30 |
| vhosakot | rwellum: have you opened icmp and SSH incoming ports in security groups? | 18:30 |
| sdake | oh - right security groups | 18:30 |
| sdake | init-runonce should ddo that though | 18:30 |
| vhosakot | all incoming traffic is dropped except DHCP | 18:30 |
| rwellum | vhosakot: yes I think so - Plus I changed neutron to allow ingress | 18:31 |
| vhosakot | ah cool, in that case, I'd check the neutron bridge... ovs or linuxbridge? | 18:31 |
| rwellum | I think there must be an "openstacky" way to to ssh - using a specific port? | 18:32 |
| rwellum | ovs | 18:32 |
| sdake | rwellum ssh should just work | 18:33 |
| vhosakot | yes, we can use the non-default SSH port (other than TCP) or the "openstacky" after opening the security groups and adding the key | 18:33 |
| rwellum | to the floating ip address? | 18:33 |
| sdake | rwellum can you ping from inside the vpm (from vnc?) | 18:33 |
| vhosakot | other than TCP port 22 I meant. | 18:33 |
| vhosakot | the openstacky way is also TCP :) | 18:33 |
| sdake | rwellum yes - you should ssh to the floating ip address | 18:33 |
| vhosakot | ^^ | 18:33 |
| vhosakot | right | 18:33 |
| sdake | floating ip addresses are external addresses | 18:33 |
| sdake | that is why floating ip addresses are added in the first place :) | 18:34 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 can you check out your pm :) | 18:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix Mongodb warning during bootstrap task https://review.openstack.org/499770 | 19:53 |
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| robbbe | does anyone use centos as the hostos? | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix warning during Panko bootstrap task https://review.openstack.org/499772 | 20:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix warning during Mongodb bootstrap task https://review.openstack.org/499770 | 20:01 |
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| rwellum | sdake: vhosakot - with sbezverk help I may have figured it out. I was running init-runonce which sets the range of floating ip addresses to something very specific to the gate environment - not my environment. So while I was creating a floating ip and attaching it - it has nothing to do with my host environment... | 20:10 |
| sdake | rwellum roger | 20:10 |
| vhosakot | rwellum: cool | 20:10 |
| rwellum | I will figure out how to do this programatically and will update the deployment guide. :) | 20:11 |
| egonzalez | robbbe yes, i do | 20:15 |
| robbbe | egonzalez - what storage drivers? | 20:16 |
| robbbe | i cant get rabbitmq to work properly | 20:16 |
| egonzalez | robbbe currently overlay, in gates is used brtfs | 20:16 |
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| robbbe | egonzalez dammit, i've tried both those and it still doesn't work | 20:17 |
| egonzalez | robbbe what is failing? | 20:18 |
| robbbe | rabbitmq just fails as soon as it starts | 20:18 |
| robbbe | someone has logged a bug for a similar thing a while ago | 20:18 |
| egonzalez | robbbe ``kolla-ansible prechecks`` succeed? | 20:19 |
| robbbe | yeah.. everything is fine | 20:19 |
| robbbe | it's something to do with clusterer | 20:19 |
| robbbe | if i comment that out of the rabbitmq-env.conf it works. but i dont think that is the actual cause | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix warning on {failed|changed}_when statements https://review.openstack.org/499787 | 20:20 |
| egonzalez | robbbe what version are you using? | 20:20 |
| robbbe | 4.0.2 and also tried the latest 5.0 | 20:21 |
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| egonzalez | robbbe you have some log? is time synced between nodes? | 20:30 |
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| jamesbenson | I thought my time sync patch was pushed to master and 4.0.2? or 4.0.3?... | 20:40 |
| inc0 | also storage driver shouldn't affect rabbit | 20:40 |
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| rwellum | inc0: you around? | 20:48 |
| rwellum | Bah I see you :) | 20:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update document to add note https://review.openstack.org/499370 | 20:49 |
| rwellum | inc0: kolla-ansible/tools/init-runonce - this has very specific hard coded ip ranges for the subnets etc - floating_ips. Are these hard coded to the Gate environment? | 20:50 |
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| rwellum | inc0: I ask because we've been telling users they can run this script post OS installation to set up network etc - but it won't work imo. | 20:53 |
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| rwellum | egonzalez: ^^^ am I correct here? | 20:53 |
| egonzalez | rwellum at the begining there are some vars to change public ranges | 20:54 |
| rwellum | Yes. | 20:54 |
| rwellum | But the script does not take inputs. | 20:54 |
| inc0 | rwellum: this was meant to just kickstart your env | 20:54 |
| robbbe | inc0, egonzalez it's something to do with my docker config, but no idea what | 20:54 |
| inc0 | you can override most of these confs with ENVs tho | 20:54 |
| robbbe | i've just tried default docker settings and it works | 20:54 |
| robbbe | i'm using reccomended secure docker settings | 20:54 |
| inc0 | https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/tools/init-runonce#L12 <- ah you can't really override that with envs, would be good change | 20:54 |
| inc0 | you can just override it in script, it's simple shell | 20:55 |
| rwellum | Yeah - except this line: | 20:55 |
| rwellum | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/M9JgvONQ/ | 20:55 |
| rwellum | This one is hard coded. | 20:55 |
| egonzalez | rwellum thats tenant network | 20:55 |
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| inc0 | yeah, I guess, it was meant to just just do quick and dirty kickoff, we can work on it tho | 20:56 |
| rwellum | demo-net egonzalez - but that's the network I am connecting my demo vm to | 20:56 |
| egonzalez | rwellum yeah, but you access with public1 floating ips | 20:57 |
| rwellum | Got it. | 20:57 |
| rwellum | I'll play with this - because I need it. And I can upload a patch if you guys are interested? | 20:57 |
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| egonzalez | it could be configurable too | 20:58 |
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| rwellum | yeah I'll set up defaults, but allow them to be over-riddden. | 20:58 |
| inc0 | ofc, that's a good change | 20:58 |
| egonzalez | good | 20:58 |
| rwellum | The actual ip range it just needs to be publically addressable - or does it also need to be on the same subnet as Neutron? I've been reading OS docs and getting conflicting info there. :) | 20:59 |
| rwellum | I know you like networking inc0 :) | 21:00 |
| egonzalez | rwellum the range for public1 should be accessible through the interface attached to br-ex (neutron_external_interface) | 21:00 |
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| rwellum | Excellent egonzalez - very helpful. | 21:01 |
| rwellum | lol inc0 - I feel the same outside of a cisco box... | 21:01 |
| egonzalez | demo-net range does not matter at all from external point of view, is just range users will use for their apps | 21:01 |
| inc0 | so public network, as egonzalez said should be reachable, this is for floating IP | 21:01 |
| inc0 | 10.0.0.0/24 is internal tenant network and doesn't have to be reachable | 21:01 |
| rwellum | Got it | 21:02 |
| inc0 | way you do it is you assign floating IP to instance | 21:02 |
| inc0 | and neutron will NAT floating IP to internal | 21:02 |
| rwellum | Ok good - will test this tomorrow. | 21:02 |
| inc0 | that's also key to understand how DVR works | 21:02 |
| inc0 | normally floating IP lands on l3-agents on network nodes | 21:02 |
| rwellum | Explains why vm's and not accessible ever. | 21:03 |
| inc0 | DVR will run l3 agens on compute nodes and floating IP will land on compute node | 21:03 |
| inc0 | not directly, no | 21:03 |
| inc0 | I mean you can do it, for example you can connect vms to flat network and run dhcp there | 21:06 |
| inc0 | but init-runonce will not set it up this way | 21:06 |
| rwellum | What's interesting is that, the neutron_external_interface is supposed to be an interface that is up, but have no ip address assigned. So that neutron can do it's thing. But if you don't have an ip address (say through dhcp) then you have to really know your physical connections to know what the subnet is. How do you do that programatically - say in a Playbook? | 21:08 |
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| rwellum | Only way I though is bring up dhcp, grab the resultant ip address then turn it off. | 21:09 |
| rwellum | Which is very nasty | 21:09 |
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| egonzalez | rwellum public networks can only be created by admins, they need knowledge of available ranges | 21:13 |
| rwellum | That makes sense. | 21:14 |
| kfox1111 | you must know your external subnet's details. | 21:14 |
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| kfox1111 | you can't just grab ip's around a dhcp assigned ip and hope they are free. | 21:15 |
| inc0 | rwellum: also neutron external iface *can* have IP...it won't be ever used tho or visible | 21:15 |
| inc0 | but deployment won't break | 21:16 |
| rwellum | Yeah - agreed kfox1111 | 21:16 |
| kfox1111 | true. | 21:16 |
| inc0 | still, it's dirty, ugly and can cause confusion | 21:16 |
| inc0 | so better if it doesn't | 21:16 |
| kfox1111 | technically though, the ip should not be on the interface, but piped into a bridge which has the ip though. | 21:16 |
| rwellum | inc0: ah I've wondered - it doesn't mess up Neutron then? | 21:16 |
| kfox1111 | if its on the physical interface, it can lead to issues. | 21:16 |
| inc0 | what issues kfox1111? I thought bridge will take over before it'll ever reach IP resoltion part of network stack | 21:17 |
| inc0 | as in arps will not arp | 21:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix warning on {failed|changed}_when statements https://review.openstack.org/499787 | 21:17 |
| kfox1111 | lilke in the ovs case, you attach the physical interface to a ovs bridge, and then do an int-foo interface on it for the ip. | 21:17 |
| inc0 | I guess localhost will still try to resolve to itself there.. | 21:17 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: um, in some cases yes, but not all cases. I think it may run into issues at least if there are vlans involved. not sure all the edge cases. | 21:17 |
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| inc0 | yeah regardless, don't do it | 21:18 |
| inc0 | it's always bad thing, not sure how bad;) | 21:19 |
| rwellum | I think in the kolla-ansible docs it says TO do it. | 21:19 |
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| inc0 | no, it says not to have IP on network_external_interface | 21:20 |
| rwellum | https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/quickstart.html - says bring a second interface up and verify it has an ip address. | 21:20 |
| inc0 | hmm you're correct rwellum | 21:21 |
| inc0 | that's bug in docs | 21:21 |
| rwellum | I can write a bug and fix | 21:22 |
| inc0 | would be awesome Rich | 21:22 |
| inc0 | thank you | 21:22 |
| rwellum | sure np | 21:22 |
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| iniazi | hey guys, so strange issue. I had some issues with deployment, but then got distracted with other work, and also modify my ceph cluster. so I'm trying to run kolla-ansible deploy again and am getting: docker.Client(**options) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Client' This error wasn't there before, or maybe I modified the config file incorrectly? | 21:41 |
| iniazi | also pike is released... should I try to go with pike? or is that new & not recommended yet until its stable? | 21:42 |
| iniazi | oh i'm trying to install ocata.. | 21:43 |
| iniazi | or atleast trying to continue what I've been trying to configure in the last month... just fixed some ceph issues & perms | 21:43 |
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| inc0 | iniazi: install docker-py ==1.10.6 | 21:48 |
| inc0 | pip install -U docker-py==1.10.6 | 21:48 |
| inc0 | docker-py changed it's api | 21:48 |
| inc0 | and only in Pike we fixed that | 21:48 |
| inc0 | for Ocata you need to pin version | 21:48 |
| iniazi | so since I'm doing a new install, is pike stuff (openstack & kolla-ansible) stable for me to attempt install or ocata still the recommended? | 21:51 |
| iniazi | and, inc0, thanks | 21:51 |
| inc0 | iniazi: well, we do testing and so far so good | 21:51 |
| inc0 | but you know how it goes.. | 21:51 |
| inc0 | we quite literally tagged first stable today | 21:52 |
| inc0 | and it's rc not full release yet | 21:52 |
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| inc0 | scratch that, still not released rc | 21:52 |
| iniazi | ok... true. I'm just being impatient. :) or hoping | 21:52 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499679/ | 21:52 |
| inc0 | well it won't change that much right;) | 21:53 |
| inc0 | from code now | 21:53 |
| inc0 | but you know, it's still only tested by us | 21:53 |
| iniazi | so when pining docker-py, i get "Requirement already up-to-date: docker-py==1.10.6 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages" and I ran pull and same error | 21:53 |
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| inc0 | damn, try pip remove docker | 21:54 |
| inc0 | or check if you have package "docker" (pip freeze | grep docker) | 21:54 |
| iniazi | output from freeze (cat'd the lines): docker==2.5.1, docker-py==1.10.6, docker-pycreds==0.2.1 | 21:56 |
| inc0 | try to remove docker | 21:56 |
| iniazi | ok, removing now... | 21:57 |
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| iniazi | ok, removed docker... should i reinstall that or install from elsewhere? running centos 7.x | 22:05 |
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| iniazi | have docker 17.07.0-ce installed, btw | 22:07 |
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| iniazi | or which version of docker client to install? | 22:15 |
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| iniazi | going to try 2.4.2 | 22:21 |
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| sdake | keepkey has arrived | 22:25 |
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| inc0 | iniazi: hmm try running docker 1.13.* | 22:34 |
| inc0 | that might be it | 22:35 |
| iniazi | ok. 2.4.2 of docker client didn't do anything. so remove docker-ce and install from yum repos (extra or epel or whatever)? | 22:35 |
| iniazi | hmm, thats 1.12.6... should I use that? isn't 1.13 same as the docker 17.*? | 22:37 |
| inc0 | iniazi: 1.13 is pretty close to 17.04 | 22:37 |
| inc0 | 17.07 (because 3 months is good release period and fuck everyone in the process) is untested | 22:38 |
| inc0 | pardon my language | 22:38 |
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| kfox1111 | I've been sticking to 1.12.6 to good results. never tried it with kolla-ansible though. | 22:42 |
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| iniazi | i think kolla-ansible docs (or used to) say to not use 1.13. but they do say use the official docker installer, which installs 17.x. | 22:43 |
| iniazi | so i had used the official docker shell script that installs the repos and whatever it installs. | 22:44 |
| kfox1111 | docker inc repos's really a moving target. :/ | 22:44 |
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| iniazi | yeah | 22:44 |
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| iniazi | whats the diff between docker-engine and docker? (package name wise)... is it the closed/enterprise one or is just the same thing? making sure I'm installing the community edition . there is one repo which has 1.13.1.cs6-1, and another docker-engine-1.13.1-1... | 22:59 |
| iniazi | i'm going to just just 1.12 | 23:00 |
| iniazi | just try 1.12.6 i mean | 23:00 |
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| kfox1111 | sounds like el7.4 will have updated ceph client bits. :) | 23:04 |
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| iniazi | hmm, i guess it deleted my local registry when i uninstalled docker-ce 17.07 and installed 1.12.6? i guess going to setup the local registry again... and build the images again? or can I migrate them or something? | 23:08 |
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| sdake | iniazi personally I'd use 1.12.6 for the moment - upstream may end up adopting some more advanced features of the docker building system - however - those should not require a newer version of the docker implementation of containerd (i.e. you build with newer versions of docker but deploy with stable 1.12.6) | 23:10 |
| sdake | iniazi they can be migrated if you put your registry images externally - which you probably didn't ;) | 23:10 |
| iniazi | yeah. i'd rather use stable /recommended. no need for latest... | 23:10 |
| iniazi | I can reinstall ce and startup the registry, if there is a way to export? | 23:11 |
| sdake | iniazi which platform arey ou on - centos? | 23:11 |
| iniazi | centos 7. | 23:11 |
| sdake | just yum install docker imo | 23:11 |
| sdake | after yum remove docker-engine | 23:11 |
| iniazi | i can just rebuild the images, I guess. it was a pain, but I didn't know what I was doing... or most importantly i rebuilt all the images I could find.. .some by binary some by source etc. | 23:12 |
| iniazi | but now I'll only build the images that i'm installing | 23:12 |
| sdake | iniazi roger - alot of folks in the community are working on making the image process simpler | 23:12 |
| sdake | iniazi along with making or docs more usable ;) | 23:12 |
| iniazi | most built via binary, only a handfull were by source (although I had to run deploy, wait 10 or 15 minutes and see which image was missing and build from source) | 23:12 |
| sdake | it used to be that binary gave the best experience - not sure that is still the case - probably easier just to build all with source | 23:13 |
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| iniazi | well I could build all with source. but with binary, about 20 or so images say there is no binary image available for centos. and I may not be installing them, as they are probably the more esoteric openstack projects and may not be using | 23:14 |
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| sdake | just got my keepkey and got my ltc transferred to my hard wwallet | 23:14 |
| sdake | rockin peice of tech | 23:14 |
| sdake | iniazi right - binary means use "Red Hat's RDO" | 23:15 |
| sdake | RHT's RDO doesn't have alot of the services implemented, while source has nearly everything implemented | 23:15 |
| iniazi | sdake: I wish I understood the btc stuff. saw people talking about keepkey a little while ago... but I don't really understand it... so if I get btc, I use that to keep my key? if I lose it, i lose my btc? | 23:16 |
| sdake | nah it has a 12 word bip44 backup password | 23:16 |
| sdake | the 12 word passphrase can be used to restore your private and public keys on any bip44 enabled system (which is most wallets at this point) | 23:17 |
| sdake | the keepkey doesn't keep your btc the blockchain does | 23:17 |
| iniazi | ok. well I just need to read up more about it. people at work, when they start to talk about it, my eyes just glaze over... might as well be talking money markets | 23:17 |
| sdake | the keepkey keeps your private and public keys and signs a transaction with your public key | 23:18 |
| iniazi | ok | 23:18 |
| sdake | they probably don't understand it :) | 23:18 |
| iniazi | well talking about btc, not keepkey perse | 23:18 |
| sdake | ya - lots of crazy shit going on with blockchain | 23:18 |
| sdake | 400 ICOs planned before the end of the year | 23:18 |
| sdake | I predict lots of people in orange jump suits incoming | 23:19 |
| sdake | ICO is like a stock offering, but a coin offering instead | 23:19 |
| sdake | "Initial coin Offering | 23:19 |
| sdake | in the US, offering of investments is heavily regulated | 23:20 |
| sdake | I am a qualified investor, so I can do whatever the hell I want as an investor | 23:20 |
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| sdake | however unqualified investors can even get in trouble with ICOs | 23:20 |
| iniazi | ultimate goal is getting the investment money? i.e. raise coins? and then use the coins to buy other stuff? | 23:21 |
| iniazi | I mean the ICOs | 23:21 |
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| sdake | use coins to buy crack I'm guessing | 23:22 |
| sdake | who knows | 23:22 |
| sdake | thats how these unregulated securities go | 23:22 |
| iniazi | oh ok. heh. startup a botnet etc. gotcha. | 23:22 |
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| sdake | usually there is an 80/20 split - 80% of the ICO money goes to the investors, 20% to the people that funded t he ICOs | 23:23 |
| iniazi | since I'm reinstalling docker/docker registry and rebuilding docker images... can I just clear out /var/lib/docker /var/lib/registry etc. ? on the build host... and the compute/control/network hosts? | 23:23 |
| sdake | the ICOs are returning 45-100 mil to the founders | 23:23 |
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| sdake | its rediculous | 23:23 |
| iniazi | yeah | 23:24 |
| sdake | i think blockchain is technically and strategically sound in concept | 23:25 |
| sdake | all the get rich quick schemes going on on top of it - who knows - 1 in 100? 1 in 1000? startups hit about 1 in 1000 - so.. ymmv :) | 23:26 |
| sdake | iniazi on the compte/control/network hosts you don't have to do anything | 23:27 |
| sdake | iniazi yu can run kolla pull and new images will come down into the docker cache | 23:27 |
| sdake | iniazi on the build machine - you may find a cleanup helpful | 23:27 |
| iniazi | just wondering, since I downgraded docker, if I shoudl clear out those mounts | 23:27 |
| sdake | actually - if your installing 1.12.6 on the control/compute/network nodes, i'd remove /var/lib/docker as well (asuming this is an eval) | 23:28 |
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| sdake | docker will rebuild the directory for you | 23:28 |
| iniazi | well< i'm hoping to have openstack running as a small production environment if I can get it setup via kolla-ansible. just not there yet | 23:28 |
| iniazi | yeah, i'm just going to clear out those dirs, may cause issues later | 23:29 |
| sdake | so your still in an evl :) | 23:29 |
| sdake | eval :) | 23:29 |
| iniazi | oh yeah, right now I am | 23:29 |
| sdake | don't forget when you deply production - to use a filesystem other then LVM | 23:30 |
| iniazi | what do you mean? for compute/glance storage? i have ceph installed | 23:30 |
| sdake | all the various filesystems eat babies, however, lvm is not upgradeable | 23:30 |
| sdake | no for your docker backend storage | 23:30 |
| iniazi | oh. it is on an lvm lv, but lvm is't an fs | 23:31 |
| sdake | if your using ceph - upgrades there should be fine | 23:31 |
| iniazi | using xfs for fs on the lv | 23:31 |
| sdake | docker uses LVM by default to do all the layering magic | 23:31 |
| sdake | the choices are aufs, overlya, overlay2, and btrfs | 23:32 |
| sdake | (and lvm) | 23:32 |
| sdake | https://docs.docker.com/engine/userguide/storagedriver/selectadriver/ | 23:32 |
| iniazi | oh. hmm, have no idea. I didn't see any LVs created when I tried deploying before... or maybe i just never noticed. | 23:32 |
| sdake | devicemapper is used, no lvs are created | 23:32 |
| sdake | however devicemapper has a whole lot of off-by-one errors meaning that containers themselves cannot be upgraded on docker storage | 23:33 |
| iniazi | ok, is it configurable in kolla? | 23:33 |
| sdake | because the reference counts get off | 23:33 |
| sdake | it is a docker configuration parameter | 23:33 |
| sdake | see above link | 23:33 |
| iniazi | looks like on centos limited to devicemapper and vfs | 23:34 |
| sdake | btrfs is what i use | 23:34 |
| sdake | some popel wont use btrfs because it has eaten babies in the past | 23:35 |
| sdake | just like xfs | 23:35 |
| sdake | just like ext4 | 23:35 |
| sdake | etc | 23:35 |
| sdake | ;) | 23:35 |
| sdake | everyone has their favorite filesystem | 23:35 |
| sdake | however, the docker layering technology only works well with upgrades with specific filesystem types | 23:36 |
| iniazi | xfs has been nice and stable for me... btrfs has bit me a few (to be generous) times in my past company I worked with | 23:36 |
| sdake | i run btrfs on /var/lib/docker and xfs on / | 23:36 |
| iniazi | had to rebuild 30 to 40 servers in our pci dc because someone decided to use btrfs instead of ext3/4 for root or /var or something | 23:36 |
| sdake | although i'm a developer, so ymmv :) | 23:36 |
| sdake | i used to use overlay on /var/lib/docker, however, overlay is busted and was too unreliable | 23:37 |
| sdake | overlay2 is supposed to be much better, however, haven't had any problems with btrfs (minus the fact that kubeadm doesn't support it..) | 23:37 |
| sdake | iniazi one thing to note - we use docker voluems in kolla-ansible - our contianers are immutable | 23:39 |
| sdake | however containers cannot sometimes be upgraded if using lvm because they have processes running on them | 23:39 |
| sdake | the most common problem involves nova-libvirt and nova-compute not being upgradeable correctly | 23:40 |
| sdake | iniazi you might ask Jeffrey4l or pbourke what they recommend - they actually sell products based upon this upstream ;) | 23:40 |
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| iniazi | ok. i'm kind of confused now about how to configure devicemapper.. i mean i need to set the param in /etc/docker/ but do I format /var/lib/docker with btrfs and mount it? but then the os is using it, or do I present that mount to docker for it tofigure out what to do with? | 23:42 |
| iniazi | i'll just have to google & research it. | 23:42 |
| sdake | i gotta jet - birthday diinner or i would help more ttyl :) | 23:46 |
| iniazi | ok, so I have to have a partition, and add via pv to a new vg, and give the vg to docker to use? | 23:46 |
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| iniazi | I can't share existing vg with docker? well I guess since I didn't create a vg, i'm using loopback mode? | 23:48 |
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