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| duonghq | morning guys | 00:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yotaro Konishi proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove an unnecessary endif https://review.openstack.org/486804 | 01:03 |
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| spsurya | morning | 03:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Added note https://review.openstack.org/485727 | 03:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove an unnecessary endif https://review.openstack.org/486804 | 03:11 |
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| spsurya | sdake: hi.... | 03:57 |
| spsurya | after deploying kk8s i was looking for the logs of cinder volume attachment | 03:58 |
| spsurya | any guess what can be problem ? | 03:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Surya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/kolla master: Corrected tmp location of ansible prechecks command https://review.openstack.org/486857 | 04:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Use latest docker ce in gate https://review.openstack.org/482763 | 04:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias Ewald proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add role to deploy prometheus https://review.openstack.org/485150 | 06:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias Ewald proposed openstack/kolla master: Add sensu images https://review.openstack.org/486379 | 07:05 |
| mewald | Is there any more detailed explanation as to why "serial" was disabled in https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/commit/1ae26fac8c2a8839c2f16c618d0ad2423afcf0bc ? | 07:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Gluschak (scsnow) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Make cinder-backup service optional https://review.openstack.org/464620 | 08:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Magnum: update clients config groups https://review.openstack.org/486937 | 08:16 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, around? | 08:19 |
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| duonghq | egonzalez, hi | 08:35 |
| egonzalez | duonghq, sup | 08:35 |
| duonghq | about keystone zero-downtime upgrade, your method is good but I afraid that it will hurt the performance? | 08:36 |
| duonghq | due to we only can guarantee 1 node is alive | 08:37 |
| duonghq | egonzalez, about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398682/ I recheck it and attach log to the comment, can you recheck? | 08:39 |
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| egonzalez | duonghq, this reconfigure log show all config files changes(dirs not) and containers restarted http://paste.openstack.org/show/616386/ | 08:41 |
| egonzalez | duonghq, note keystone/neutron are not restarted in with that change because both services are not being modified in the change, only common, haproxy, mariabd, etc | 08:43 |
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| duonghq | egonzalez, sure, I'm checking why these services is restarting | 08:43 |
| egonzalez | duonghq, likely in (common role) first ensure dirs have 770 permission, files copied with 660 and other dir permission task (recursive) to 770 | 08:46 |
| andyjones2001 | hi all, I'm running through https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-kubernetes/latest/deployment-guide.html and running into python error at kolla-kubernetes-genpwd (TypeError: key: expected bytes or bytearray, but got 'str') - is this the right channel to ask in ? | 08:46 |
| andyjones2001 | or is there a specific for kolla-kubernetes | 08:46 |
| egonzalez | when reconfigure, files does not have 660 due the recursive permissions in dir | 08:46 |
| egonzalez | duonghq, ^^ | 08:46 |
| duonghq | egonzalez, got it, thank you | 08:47 |
| egonzalez | andyjones2001, this is the right channel | 08:48 |
| egonzalez | duonghq, any reason for recursive permission? I think is not needed at all if all files set their permissions | 08:49 |
| duonghq | egonzalez, I don't have clearly reason, just for make sure every file has correct permission | 08:49 |
| andyjones2001 | I suspect its a python3 vs python2 issue | 08:51 |
| spsurya | andyjones2001: Yes this is the right channel, can you paste the complete logs for it | 09:02 |
| spsurya | ? | 09:02 |
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| andyjones2001 | spsurya http://paste.openstack.org/show/616401/ | 09:07 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: morning | 09:14 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: just saw your note re upgrade on that glance patch, fixing now | 09:14 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, was re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486681/ | 09:15 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, is secret_key really used? We set the key from passwords, and rdo dont even import the required library | 09:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias Ewald proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Elasticsearch to Grafana https://review.openstack.org/486747 | 09:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias Ewald proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Elasticsearch to Grafana https://review.openstack.org/486747 | 09:18 |
| andyjones2001 | spsurya: I'm running on Ubuntu 16.04 btw | 09:18 |
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| spsurya | andyjones2001: ohhk, BTW currently i am running it on Centos | 09:19 |
| spsurya | didn't checked it on Ubuntu recently | 09:19 |
| andyjones2001 | step1 on the page (deploy k8s) has ubuntu and centos sections but step 3 does not, in fact it seems Centos-specific | 09:21 |
| spsurya | duonghq: hi... | 09:21 |
| andyjones2001 | so my guess was I probably borked it by installing some python2.7 packages by mistake | 09:21 |
| andyjones2001 | I guess my question is - _should_ this all work using python3.5 ? | 09:22 |
| spsurya | yes it should | 09:22 |
| andyjones2001 | I'll start afresh without any 2.7 package silliness ... | 09:23 |
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| duonghq | hi spsurya | 09:24 |
| spsurya | ragarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398682/ | 09:24 |
| spsurya | didn't get much on this | 09:25 |
| spsurya | duonghq | 09:25 |
| spsurya | andyjones2001 sure | 09:28 |
| egonzalez | can someone add +w to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474539/ ? | 09:28 |
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| spsurya | egonzalez: done :) | 09:29 |
| egonzalez | spsurya, thanks! i think we were missing some deploy errors in kolla gates, in example containers in restarting status | 09:30 |
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| spsurya | egonzalez: yeah, i see | 09:35 |
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| pbourke | egonzalez: are you sure its unused in the source images? | 09:40 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: without the chown the source images fail to start in a dev mode scenario | 09:41 |
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| pbourke | egonzalez: could we just add a 'chown if exists'? | 09:41 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, source by default uses that, but ansible and likely k8s set secret_key from a password.yml | 09:41 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, in ansible local_settings the secret-key library is not even imported https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/roles/horizon/templates/local_settings.j2#L6 | 09:43 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: ok let me try it again and get back to you | 09:45 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, yep, i can add the chown if exists, i'm finding other issues with ubuntu binary not having the same python path | 09:46 |
| egonzalez | http://logs.openstack.org/20/464620/9/check/gate-kolla-ansible-dsvm-deploy-ubuntu-binary-ubuntu-xenial-nv/8266560/logs/docker_logs/horizon | 09:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Duong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Specify 'become' to necessary tasks (general roles) https://review.openstack.org/398682 | 09:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix horizon secret_key error https://review.openstack.org/486681 | 09:56 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, ^^ | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Duong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Specify 'become' for only necessary tasks (default roles) https://review.openstack.org/398684 | 09:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix horizon start errors for binary images https://review.openstack.org/486681 | 09:59 |
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| andyjones2001 | spsurya still the same error as before with all python2.7 removed, so seems Ubuntu related | 10:11 |
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| spsurya | andyjones2001: IIUC seems bug to me | 10:16 |
| spsurya | andyjones2001: did you check it on centos ? | 10:17 |
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| andyjones2001 | not yet, I can do so | 10:17 |
| spsurya | would be great, if you check it and confirm ? | 10:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Bourke (pbourke) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Only start one glance_api when using file backend https://review.openstack.org/448654 | 10:18 |
| spsurya | andyjones2001 | 10:18 |
| andyjones2001 | spsurya: I will check and report back | 10:19 |
| spsurya | andyjones2001: cool, thanks | 10:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Add openstack logs in deploy gates https://review.openstack.org/474539 | 10:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix horizon start errors for binary images https://review.openstack.org/486681 | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhouya proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support assigning HA traffic to dedicated interface https://review.openstack.org/481503 | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhouya proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support assigning HA traffic to dedicated interface https://review.openstack.org/481503 | 12:04 |
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| andyjones2001 | spsurya: my latest update is ignore everything above - the base image I was working with had some broken python installation; sorry for the noise | 12:15 |
| andyjones2001 | so Ubuntu 16.04 does appear to be working so far (although I have now run into a problem with mariadb pod not starting) ... | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Quickstart guide add inventory in pull command https://review.openstack.org/487037 | 12:40 |
| mewald1 | I am working on the comments made to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485150/7. I am not sure how to deal with the logging of prometheus. It's not possible to define a log file. We can log to syslog or stdout. Is it right that I cannot redirect stdout to a file in Kolla? If so, do we have to log to stdout without catching the messages? | 12:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhouya proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support assigning HA traffic to dedicated interface https://review.openstack.org/481503 | 12:47 |
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| andyjones2001 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/616434/ | 12:47 |
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| egonzalez | mewald1, only thing I see now is ``prometheus_command /var/log/kolla/prometheus/prometheus.log 2>&1 &`` in config.json | 12:57 |
| egonzalez | also will need to make sure of log rotation of docker logs, which will increase a lot if using stdout | 12:57 |
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| mewald1 | egonzalez: hmm I've tried redirecting stdout like this (>) but it threw some error. I'll check again | 13:00 |
| egonzalez | mewald1, maybe putting in background makes cloud-init process die | 13:01 |
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| egonzalez | mewald1, fluentd log to stdout too | 13:01 |
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| mewald1 | but there's not redirect in its config.json | 13:04 |
| mewald1 | egonzalez: this is what happens when I redirect prometheus stdout: https://gist.github.com/mewald1/36957f7d314e1df5b4a1f659cb03b56f | 13:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix zun-api logging and state_path https://review.openstack.org/480963 | 13:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias Ewald proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add role to deploy prometheus https://review.openstack.org/485150 | 13:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DONOMERGE: Test etcd,kuryr and zun services https://review.openstack.org/487052 | 13:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DONOMERGE: Test etcd,kuryr and zun services https://review.openstack.org/487052 | 13:21 |
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| sdake | morning folks | 13:56 |
| jbadiapa | pbourke, ping regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467219/ , the rpm package for fluentd is now used in CentOS/RHEL/Oraclelinux, is it ok? | 13:59 |
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| mewald1 | morning sdake | 14:04 |
| sdake | sup mewald1 | 14:05 |
| mewald1 | standing guard waiting for new reviews to my commits :D | 14:07 |
| mewald1 | wanna get a couple of things through | 14:07 |
| mewald1 | you? | 14:07 |
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| k_mouza | good afternoon/morning guys! I'm deploying Ceph with Kolla and after the deploy has finished successfully, my Ceph cluster reports no OSDs. I've partitioned the drives in the storage nodes using the _FO{0,1,2,3,4) suffixes for the labels, although I'm not using external journal drives. Is this ok, or should I label all the drives with "KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP" ? | 14:24 |
| k_mouza | by the way, I'm using the stable/ocata version of kolla | 14:25 |
| egonzalez | inc0, duonghq awesome title for a summit talk :) | 14:26 |
| egonzalez | k_mouza, for no external journal just use ``parted /dev/sdb -s -- mklabel gpt mkpart KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP 1 -1`` | 14:29 |
| egonzalez | k_mouza, however you can also label KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP_OSD1, KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP_OSD2, etc | 14:29 |
| sdake | mewald1 its past freeze time - i dont reallly ffeel confident merging code into kolla-ansible at this late stage - although someone more familiar with the code may | 14:29 |
| sdake | mewald1 what we need is a branch to unblock master - not sure what the schedule is for that | 14:30 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l any thoughts (if your about) | 14:30 |
| k_mouza | thanks egonzalez! Not sure why it's not showing any OSDs now, but I'll try re-partitioning the drives | 14:30 |
| pbourke | jbadiapa: does the command to start the agent change also? | 14:33 |
| pbourke | jbadiapa: trying that patch I get /usr/sbin/td-agent: No such file or directory | 14:33 |
| jbadiapa | pbourke, did you try with kolla-ansible? | 14:34 |
| pbourke | jbadiapa: yes | 14:34 |
| sdake | egonzalez which talk? | 14:35 |
| jbadiapa | pbourke, you need this patch as well --> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482528/ | 14:35 |
| mewald1 | sdake: ah ok wasn't aware ist past-freeze already. We can merge it in at a later stage then | 14:35 |
| sdake | mewald1 i am not opposed to reviewing kolla patches - just kolla-ansible | 14:35 |
| mewald1 | suer | 14:36 |
| mewald1 | sure | 14:36 |
| sdake | mewald1 my context with the code base has become weaker over time | 14:36 |
| sdake | mewald1 although I still have great context on kolla repos and kolla-kubernetes repos | 14:36 |
| jbadiapa | pbourke, it's exactly to change the command to start the agent | 14:36 |
| egonzalez | sdake, Poke a Pike - upgrading OpenStack with Kolla | 14:36 |
| pbourke | jbadiapa: ok, seems to be one of those circular dependencies | 14:36 |
| sdake | mewald1 if you need reviews in these deliverables let me know | 14:36 |
| jbadiapa | pbourke, yes, egonzalez helped me with that | 14:37 |
| sdake | mewald1 https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 14:37 |
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| egonzalez | sdake, for us cycle-trailing freeze is Aug 07 - Aug 11 week | 14:38 |
| sdake | egonzalez i see - so 1 more week to go to get mariadb on the correct upstream then? :) | 14:39 |
| egonzalez | sdake, yesterday tested the patch and multinode does not work, no idea why tho | 14:40 |
| sdake | egonzalez you tested my patch? | 14:41 |
| sdake | egonzalez its in need of a rebase | 14:41 |
| egonzalez | sdake, yep, I did locally | 14:41 |
| sdake | egonzalez i really aprecicate that - my home lab is down and my work lab is consumed by kolla-kubernetes atm | 14:42 |
| sdake | so have no where to test | 14:42 |
| sdake | egonzalez i'll look at sorting out the multinode problem - clearly we dont want t merge broken thigns | 14:42 |
| pbourke | jbadiapa: so on rhel, will basically a lot of the logging just not work due to lack of plugins? | 14:42 |
| pbourke | whats the reason for not installing them on rhel | 14:42 |
| jbadiapa | pbourke, on rhel there is only support for the software that is installed via rpm packages from the red hat repositories | 14:46 |
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| jbadiapa | pbourke, so far the plugins are not on the redhat repos, so having then on the rhel image may create a misunderstanding that the software is supported by Red Hat | 14:53 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, until the ansible change is merged, images will fail to deploy, was succeeding before because a bug in our deploy gates | 14:54 |
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| pbourke | jbadiapa: I understand, would like to check with someone from the rhel community on that though. As I'm not sure its been our policy so far to hobble the rhel images due to liscening concerns | 14:59 |
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| pbourke | egonzalez: do we have a point of contact for the rhel images? | 15:04 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, no afik | 15:05 |
| jbadiapa | pbourke, what do you mean with the guy from rhel images? | 15:06 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, what i know is that rhel images are they are in our repos cannot work because installs kilo repo/packages https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/base/Dockerfile.j2#L114 | 15:07 |
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| pbourke | jbadiapa: what Im trying to say is we're not in a position to make a call what's supported by red hat and what's not. So long as we're not breaking any open source licenses all of rhel/centos/oraclelinux should be at parity feature wise | 15:07 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: :/ | 15:08 |
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| pbourke | sdake: does this make sense to you regarding rhel images? | 15:10 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, mandre(not online now) can add more context into this, in this bug said that redhat uses different build method https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1648745 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1648745 in kolla "redhat containers uses old repositories" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Martin André (mandre) | 15:10 |
| jamesbenson_ | [Eduardo Gonzalez, irc.freenode.net] pbourke, mandre(not online now) can add more context into this, in this bug said that redhat uses different build method https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1648745 | 15:10 |
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| sdake | pbourke sorry in a meeting atm - i have looed at the review already and am at a loss as to the correct approaach in the time i had available | 15:10 |
| sdake | my meeting concluldes in 1 hr 05 minutes | 15:10 |
| pbourke | sdake: no problem | 15:10 |
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| pbourke | jbadiapa: overall the patch is good for me, I just want to check with someone who uses the rhel images they are ok with this approach. I'll add a review comment | 15:11 |
| sdake | pbourke reading scrollback - i think this conversation is important; I lack enough context to understand what tradeoff is being made | 15:12 |
| pbourke | sdake: summary is should third party plugins / repos be added to the rhel images or not | 15:13 |
| sdake | we dont build rhel images | 15:13 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, images cannot work with ansible due the lack of used plugins by fluentd config | 15:13 |
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| pbourke | the plugins can be installed though | 15:14 |
| pbourke | sdake: i dont build rhel images, you don't, but I'm assuming someone does | 15:14 |
| sdake | pbourke distracted with a meeting atm - and both of these topics require 100% of my rainpower | 15:15 |
| sdake | can you give me 45 mins plz | 15:15 |
| pbourke | sure | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update fluentd config for rpm distros https://review.openstack.org/482528 | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DONOMERGE: Test etcd,kuryr and zun services https://review.openstack.org/487052 | 15:36 |
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| kfox1111 | morning. | 16:12 |
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| sdake | pbourke i'm back if you re available | 16:18 |
| sdake | jbadiapa hey - aorund? | 16:18 |
| jbadiapa | yes | 16:19 |
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| sdake | jbadiapa which plugins was pbourke speaking about? | 16:19 |
| jbadiapa | sdake, everything started with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467219/ | 16:20 |
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| sdake | right - i've looked at the review and most of the commentary in it | 16:20 |
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| jbadiapa | sdake, its about the fluentd plugins | 16:20 |
| sdake | which ones specifically? | 16:20 |
| paramite | hope that my last comment explains it | 16:21 |
| jbadiapa | sdake, fluent-plugin-kubernetes_metadata_filter, fluent-plugin-elasticsearch, fluent-plugin-grok-parser:0.3.1, fluent-plugin-rewrite-tag-filter | 16:22 |
| jbadiapa | sdake, paramite just commented on the review as well | 16:22 |
| sdake | paramite are you martin? | 16:22 |
| paramite | sdake, yup, that's me | 16:23 |
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| sdake | so i get there are no rhel rpms packaged | 16:23 |
| sdake | and no intent to do so | 16:23 |
| paramite | but? :) | 16:23 |
| sdake | i think a more important question is - for rhel consumers of kolla containers - what is the impct | 16:23 |
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| paramite | sdake, you mean what is a impact of not having those plugins installed as gems? | 16:25 |
| sdake | right | 16:25 |
| paramite | sdake, I suppose that if they will decide to run kolla-ansible, then it will fail the same way as it failed CI jobs when those gems were not being installed in centos | 16:26 |
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| sdake | looking at hte review- idon't see where the plguins are installed | 16:27 |
| sdake | mind pointing that out for me | 16:28 |
| sdake | (or altenately disabled) | 16:28 |
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| paramite | sdake, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467219/23/docker/fluentd/Dockerfile.j2 line 41 for centos and oracle | 16:29 |
| paramite | 64 for debian distros | 16:29 |
| sdake | gem install is not a thing for rhel? | 16:30 |
| paramite | sdake, yup ... RPM or nothing :) | 16:31 |
| sdake | what is the intent of the overall change besides what is described in the commit message | 16:32 |
| paramite | sdake, so if you guys really thing those gems should be there, let's make it wrapped in block, so we can then override it in tripleo | 16:32 |
| paramite | sdake, to have community package on centos and rhel | 16:32 |
| paramite | sdake, on rhel it will be of course switched to RH supported package | 16:33 |
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| sdake | so prior - rhel didn't work with fluentd? | 16:34 |
| sdake | and after - rhel doesn't work with fluentd | 16:34 |
| sdake | ? | 16:34 |
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| paramite | prior we did not use the fluentd container with td-agent | 16:35 |
| sdake | i mean prior to this review being submitted | 16:35 |
| paramite | I know, the answer is the same. It probably worked, but from the OSS point of view, it's better to use community package rather than third party one | 16:36 |
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| sdake | i'm a bit lost - could you clarify - prior to this patch pulling td-agent from wherever it was coming from worked on rhel - and afterwards it does not | 16:37 |
| sdake | ? | 16:37 |
| * sdake wishes harm upon ruby (the language) | 16:38 | |
| paramite | I'm not saying that it doesn't work | 16:38 |
| paramite | it just does not make sense on CentOS to use package provided by third party company, when there is a CentOS community provided package | 16:39 |
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| sdake | this third party package does not require gem install then? | 16:46 |
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| jbadiapa | sdake, sorry, but I do not follow the question? | 16:50 |
| sdake | prior to the patch does td-agent from wherever its coming from use some form of bundling? how does it avoid the need to install plugins | 16:51 |
| paramite | sdake, it has it's own gem install installing their own versions of gems | 16:51 |
| paramite | sdake, you can see it on line 64 in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467219/23/docker/fluentd/Dockerfile.j2 | 16:52 |
| paramite | td-agent-gem install instead of gem install | 16:52 |
| sdake | ok thanks | 16:53 |
| paramite | yrw | 16:54 |
| sdake | putting myself in paul's shoes, the intent of the kolla containers is really to standardize around one set of tooling that produces one set of images - be they proprietary (in the rhel case) or open source (in the centos case) | 16:54 |
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| sdake | i suspect pauls objection is that by not installing those libraries, the fundamental compatibility of the images is damaged between different distributinos | 16:55 |
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| pbourke | back | 16:56 |
| paramite | sdake, ok, so IIUC we should just add the gem install also to RHEL? | 16:56 |
| pbourke | essentially we were installing these plugins in rhel prior to this patch | 16:56 |
| sdake | in the case of fluentd, fluentd is a fundamtal dependency of everything (in the kolla-ansible world) | 16:56 |
| pbourke | now we're not | 16:56 |
| pbourke | I dont see why kolla maintains rhel if it is useless without a load of proprietary work | 16:57 |
| sdake | paramite i believe you indicated gem install was not available on rhel | 16:57 |
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| paramite | sdake, well it is of course possible to do gem install, it's just not used at all | 16:58 |
| sdake | define "not used" please? | 16:58 |
| paramite | the only supported way for installing software on RHEL is via RPMs from RH channels | 16:59 |
| paramite | anyway, so installing those plugins on RHEL will make you happy and wrapping this piece of code to block, so we are able to override it, will make us happy ... can we agree on that? | 17:00 |
| paramite | sdake, pbourke ^ | 17:01 |
| sdake | little slow today - many things happening - give me a few mins plz | 17:02 |
| jbadiapa | ls | 17:03 |
| jbadiapa | sorry, the "ls" wasnt here | 17:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Fix horizon start errors for binary images https://review.openstack.org/486681 | 17:06 |
| sdake | my general take is that if people wish to build kolla images - they should ideally work with whichever deployment tools make sense for the operator - the act of distributing those images is largely the responsibility of red hat - if they choose to distribute incompatible images it shines poorly on kolla as a standard for communicating with openstack containers - on the other hand it really isn't my problem that red hat would choose to take such | 17:06 |
| sdake | action - it is red hats problem | 17:06 |
| sdake | what we agreed to originally in the vote on this topic is that when operators choose to build their own images - that they build properly on against the distro on which they are built - (properly implies working with kolla-ansible) | 17:07 |
| paramite | sdake, ok, understood | 17:08 |
| sdake | i think if you can preserve that property that would meet the statement of the vote (but not the intent) | 17:08 |
| jbadiapa | sdake, sorry, where can I get those? | 17:08 |
| sdake | jbadiapa get which | 17:08 |
| jbadiapa | sdake, what you wrote on the channel ? | 17:10 |
| sdake | jbadiapa which could refer to any of 10+ nouns I said above :) | 17:10 |
| paramite | sdake, ok, I don't see a problem of installing plugins on rhel distro if it will be possible to override this | 17:10 |
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| paramite | so IMHO we just made an agreement ... am I correct? | 17:11 |
| paramite | sdake, pbourke ^ ? | 17:11 |
| sdake | takes two core reviewers to review a patch | 17:11 |
| sdake | paul has not weighed in | 17:11 |
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| sdake | paramite in general I believe red hat would be better served without a conditional block (hence driving standardization of the container content) - although it is likely not your responsibility to make such decisions | 17:14 |
| paramite | no it is not | 17:15 |
| sdake | paramite hypothetically if I was managing red hat's business - I'd want to know we were not shipping compatible containers - before it become a huge customer emergency | 17:17 |
| sdake | unsolicited advice fwiw | 17:17 |
| sdake | the world is built on standards - breaking them generally leads to fragmentation and customer pain | 17:18 |
| sdake | pbourke when you have time to take up this conversation - please provide a course of action which you believe makes sense - following your lead here since you were first to review | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Juan Badia Payno proposed openstack/kolla master: Use community fluentd packages for CentOS/RHEL/Oraclelinux https://review.openstack.org/467219 | 17:25 |
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| klowse1 | trying to deploy 4.0.3 and neutron-server container keeps restarting because of: ExtensionsNotFound: Extensions not found: ['auto-allocated-topology', 'dns-integration']. | 18:20 |
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| inc0 | good afternoon | 19:03 |
| kolla-slack | <jascott1> o/ | 19:05 |
| inc0 | hey jascott1 did you check plugins in helm? | 19:05 |
| inc0 | jinja2 thingy? | 19:05 |
| jascott1 | ive started looking into but have been working on bug for helm 2.5.1 (released today). the pieces are mostly there I was told | 19:06 |
| jascott1 | so should know more by tomorrow | 19:06 |
| inc0 | cool, so how would that work? We'd need to make tiller extention for jinja2 right? | 19:09 |
| jascott1 | afaik thats basically it | 19:09 |
| inc0 | or tiller-less rendering and local jinja2 plugin | 19:09 |
| jascott1 | or that :) | 19:09 |
| inc0 | can it be written in py? | 19:09 |
| jascott1 | if its local helm plugin it can be written in anything | 19:10 |
| jascott1 | cause it doesnt hook into anything much | 19:10 |
| inc0 | cool, and how tiller plugins work? | 19:10 |
| jascott1 | still looking into it | 19:10 |
| inc0 | kk | 19:10 |
| inc0 | EmilienM: around? | 19:11 |
| klowse1 | is there an archive to pull the 4.0.2 tar registry? | 19:11 |
| inc0 | klowse1: all tarballs from tarball.o.o are top of the stable branch | 19:12 |
| inc0 | if you want 4.0.2 you need to build it yourself | 19:12 |
| klowse1 | centos bin is 4.0.3 and things are broken. 4.0.2 worked but i deleted the tar | 19:13 |
| inc0 | interesting, what's broken? | 19:13 |
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| klowse1 | i manually fix a few things but stuck on: trying to deploy 4.0.3 and neutron-server container keeps restarting because of: ExtensionsNotFound: Extensions not found: ['auto-allocated-topology', 'dns-integration']. | 19:14 |
| klowse1 | fix meaning: had to disable some services | 19:14 |
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| sbezverk | inc0: could you explain me why we need to re-write in py what helm is already successfully doing? | 19:15 |
| sbezverk | inc0: if people have allergy to helm it is much simpler solution to rename it to whatever they like ;) and do not waste time on re-inventing wheel.. | 19:17 |
| inc0 | sbezverk: we're exploring ideas, don't worry | 19:17 |
| sbezverk | inc0: I do not, I am just curious.. | 19:18 |
| inc0 | truth is, go templating isn't clearest of langs, and I see why people would like to avoid it. Also 1:1 translation from gotpl to jinja shouldn't be an issue | 19:18 |
| inc0 | having easy ansible support would make orch layer much easier | 19:18 |
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| kfox1111 | with as... simplistic as gotl is, a python implementation of gotl might be another option. | 19:19 |
| inc0 | I'd rather not | 19:19 |
| inc0 | templating engines aren't easy to write | 19:19 |
| kfox1111 | gotl seems to be written from the standpoint of making it easy for the go devs to implement, not a nice templating language to use. :/ | 19:19 |
| inc0 | and since we can do it as local plugin in python, should be really easy | 19:19 |
| kfox1111 | are you talking about adding jinja support to helm? | 19:20 |
| inc0 | right, I still have issues reading it | 19:20 |
| inc0 | yes kfox1111 | 19:20 |
| kfox1111 | can't be done as a helm plugin. | 19:20 |
| kfox1111 | would be a tiller one. | 19:20 |
| inc0 | depends | 19:20 |
| inc0 | helm template is a plugin | 19:20 |
| inc0 | but we're exploring | 19:20 |
| kfox1111 | helm plugins are glorified, stick 'helm in front of the command'. | 19:20 |
| kfox1111 | it doesn't work at all with helm packages. | 19:21 |
| kfox1111 | you throw out all the helm distribution model if you only do it as a helm plugin. | 19:21 |
| inc0 | well let me put it this way then | 19:22 |
| inc0 | rendered plaintext is perfectly valid template with no variables in it | 19:22 |
| kfox1111 | true. | 19:22 |
| inc0 | so worst case scenario - we can put rendering client side and sent end-result as "template" | 19:22 |
| kfox1111 | but no reason for a template engine at that point. | 19:23 |
| EmilienM | inc0: yes | 19:23 |
| EmilienM | what's up | 19:23 |
| inc0 | EmilienM: we're exploring putting jinja2 into helm | 19:23 |
| inc0 | this way (assuming you guys are interested and would help) | 19:23 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: yeah. thats not putting jinja2 into helm. I'm not aposed to having a client side option too, but thats different then what your talkign about. | 19:23 |
| EmilienM | it's indeed interesting | 19:23 |
| inc0 | we could translate our gotpl to jinja2 and make kolla-k8s compatible with both helm and native ansible | 19:23 |
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| kfox1111 | really leary of switching again at this point. it took a long long time to switch. :/ | 19:24 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: well, what I'm saying is somehow being able to write helm tpls in jinja, how we're going to implement it it's still tbd | 19:24 |
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| kfox1111 | inc0: yeah. | 19:25 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: I think 1:1 translation should be possible | 19:25 |
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| inc0 | it took long to switch because we were changing whole structure | 19:25 |
| kfox1111 | yes, should be possible. last time we did took us about 4 months. | 19:25 |
| kfox1111 | the structure changed largely because of jinja <-> gotl differences. | 19:25 |
| inc0 | I'm not saying we're doing this | 19:25 |
| kfox1111 | yup. and I'm just giving you info about it. | 19:26 |
| inc0 | but let's explore all the potential routes and decide together | 19:26 |
| inc0 | we'd need Red Hat help for sure, we can't affort to do it ourselves, but I think if TripleO people would be interested, we can get it done together | 19:27 |
| kfox1111 | its totally doable. "its only a matter of code" :) . its more a matter of deciding if its worth doing and who would do it. | 19:27 |
| inc0 | right now lets finish exploration of "how to make helm consume jinja2" | 19:27 |
| kfox1111 | python module, and a tiller extension. | 19:28 |
| kfox1111 | the python module can be pulled into ansible. the tiller extension for those that use helm natively. | 19:28 |
| inc0 | or, alternatively, we can have client-side templating and container doing it | 19:28 |
| kfox1111 | that throws out all the distribution / values stuff. | 19:30 |
| kfox1111 | you might as well not use helm at all then. | 19:30 |
| inc0 | yeha I guess | 19:30 |
| SamYaple | inc0: youll be happy to know i made some loci images with the kolla extras added in that deployed with kolla-ansible | 19:31 |
| inc0 | yay | 19:32 |
| inc0 | are they available anywhere? | 19:32 |
| SamYaple | moving extend_start.sh and other configs to ansible manager means its only a different base image | 19:32 |
| SamYaple | no its not automated builds are anything | 19:32 |
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| kfox1111 | SamYaple: cool. :) | 19:32 |
| inc0 | how about Dockerfile? | 19:32 |
| SamYaple | I can push something up, sure | 19:33 |
| SamYaple | its a bit of a mess mainly because kolla explodes images out so you have glance-registry and glance-api containers | 19:33 |
| SamYaple | but if you move the extend starts and other configs, then it beomes single image goodness | 19:34 |
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| rwellum | Hi sbezverk - I got 5.0.0 up now. Only thing is I can't create a vm successfully anymore the way I did with 4.x - you seen any issues there? Maybe with init-runonce? | 19:40 |
| inc0 | interesting SamYaple | 19:41 |
| sbezverk | rwellum no, issue, at the gate we bring up 2 VMs and all functionality works | 19:41 |
| sbezverk | inc0: I think 1:1 only possible in a very remote theory, like time machines, in theory it is possible ;) | 19:43 |
| inc0 | lol | 19:44 |
| SamYaple | ive also done alot of messing with pipelines. really happy with that | 19:44 |
| sbezverk | one thing for certain, I will not be doing conversion back to jinja2 | 19:44 |
| SamYaple | did some custom pipeline stuff for profiling | 19:44 |
| inc0 | sbezverk: here's the deal, I'm just trying to figure out how to merge helm and ansible best | 19:44 |
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| sbezverk | inc0: I totally get you.. | 19:45 |
| inc0 | sbezverk: don't worry about work until we decide we're actually doing that, I'm a dreamer;) | 19:45 |
| SamYaple | inc0: i know im late to the conversation here, but define "merge helm and ansible" please? | 19:45 |
| inc0 | I like throwing ideas around and see what sticks | 19:45 |
| SamYaple | didnt it just unmerge | 19:45 |
| sbezverk | I was just giving a heads up ;) | 19:45 |
| inc0 | SamYaple: we're thinking of best orchestration to deploy OpenStack on k8s | 19:46 |
| inc0 | ansible can drive k8s resources | 19:46 |
| inc0 | mind you, I'm not talking of kolla-ansible | 19:46 |
| inc0 | I'm talking of playbook working with helm | 19:46 |
| SamYaple | i see. yes ive been considering using saltstack to talk to tiller | 19:46 |
| inc0 | same thing | 19:46 |
| SamYaple | yup | 19:46 |
| SamYaple | i get where youre coming from | 19:46 |
| inc0 | one idea would be to make helm understand jinja2 somehow | 19:47 |
| inc0 | and allow ansible to render helm tepmlates natively | 19:47 |
| rwellum | sbezverk: same openstack commands - no changes? I'm guessing a pike change maybe. http://paste.openstack.org/show/616465/ | 19:49 |
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| sbezverk | rwellum possibly, we can check that tomorrow when I finish my training | 19:49 |
| sbezverk | if you need help | 19:49 |
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| rwellum | Sounds good sbezverk meantime I will poke away at it. I tried a brand new VM in case that pointed to something, the root cause seems to be: "No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available." | 19:51 |
| SamYaple | inc0: i talked to a few people about getting an ansible->tiller interface | 19:51 |
| inc0 | yeah that'd be good | 19:51 |
| inc0 | right now we're playing with -m command -a "helm install ..." | 19:52 |
| inc0 | but that's prothesis | 19:52 |
| SamYaple | i mean tiller has an api... technically you could do a pull-and-compare and push up a new blob if there is a change | 19:52 |
| inc0 | yeah I know, we're just playing around now | 19:53 |
| sbezverk | SamYaple helm tiller goes over grpc, does ansible support it? | 19:56 |
| SamYaple | sbezverk: not that i know of. this would be a module | 19:57 |
| sbezverk | SamYaple just curios then how it will communicate with it. | 19:58 |
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| SamYaple | im not working on it sbezverk, but i can't imagine it would be too difficult. just lots of initial work | 20:00 |
| sbezverk | SamYaple yeah for sure, grpc needs to provide a library for ansible as it does for other languages.. anyway I was just curious.. | 20:02 |
| SamYaple | sbezverk: there is python grpc im pretty sure | 20:02 |
| SamYaple | so it would just be a module like anything else | 20:02 |
| sbezverk | SamYaple right python has it for sure.. | 20:03 |
| SamYaple | im confused then. ansible == python | 20:03 |
| SamYaple | so we should be able to communicate with python to tiller, therefore we can ansible to tiller | 20:03 |
| sbezverk | SamYaple it is not that obvious to me :) due to luck of knowledge in either.. | 20:04 |
| SamYaple | oh i see | 20:04 |
| SamYaple | in ansible we can create modules that are pure python. imports and all | 20:04 |
| SamYaple | we can then call those modules as tasks for doing things from the ansible code | 20:04 |
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| sbezverk | SamYaple I see that would simplify enormously this task | 20:05 |
| SamYaple | ++ | 20:05 |
| inc0 | yeah, that's a good approach | 20:06 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple: speaking of which, did you get helm-galera upstream anywhere? | 20:08 |
| SamYaple | hell no | 20:08 |
| SamYaple | i dropped that like a hot potato | 20:08 |
| inc0 | lol | 20:08 |
| inc0 | what happened? | 20:08 |
| SamYaple | i actually just got really busy | 20:08 |
| inc0 | ok so it's not a bad idea, just lack of time? | 20:08 |
| SamYaple | pretty much | 20:08 |
| SamYaple | it was actually k8s 1.6 that killed my drive | 20:09 |
| SamYaple | i just didnt have time to keep up with k8s *and* make it do fun things | 20:09 |
| inc0 | understandable | 20:09 |
| SamYaple | if you find out a way (and give me an example) of how to get one node to be able to communicate and retrieve information from others nodes (namely gvwstate and grastate.dat) then ill have a solution for you quickly | 20:10 |
| SamYaple | i just dont have time to figure it out right now | 20:10 |
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| SamYaple | i got to the point of either writing a service (yuck) or doing an external api ectd thing, but that had lots of race conditions | 20:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix zun transport_url https://review.openstack.org/487238 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DONOMERGE: Test etcd,kuryr and zun services https://review.openstack.org/487052 | 23:21 |
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