Tuesday, 2017-07-11

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hawihi there. question: after reconfiguring neutron it seems that machines have ip-s configured, but they boot up slow because there is no network00:14
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sbezverkJeffrey4l ping01:07
Jeffrey4lsup sbezverk01:08
sbezverkJeffrey4l could you please review this ps https://review.openstack.org/481858 it is kind of a blocker for me..01:08
Jeffrey4lnp. checking.01:09
sbezverkJeffrey4l thanks a lot01:09
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Jeffrey4lsbezverk, what's the different with iscsid images?01:14
Jeffrey4lseems the packages installed is almost the some.01:14
sbezverkiscsid image is just a transport used for nova-compute01:14
sbezverkand it runs iscsid process01:14
sbezverktarget image loads target kernel driver and serving to store all targets01:15
sbezverkit replaces tgtd01:15
sbezverkas we used tgtadm iscsi_helper for lioadm I need to load module01:15
sbezverkso I cannot use iscsid01:16
Jeffrey4lwhen using iscsi-target, is there any process should run?01:16
sbezverkno, there are three components 1 - on container start load saved targets, 2 - on container end save targets 3 - load iscsi_target_mod, it will automatically create X.X.X.X:3260 portals for each targte01:18
sbezverkon k8s side I basically run sleep, just to keep container alive01:19
Jeffrey4lsbezverk, so the main usage of this image is: modprobe iscsi_target_mod, right?01:21
sbezverkJeffrey4l yes01:21
Jeffrey4lsbezverk, why not try to load this module when needed. like "load it when starting cinder-volume"?01:21
sbezverkJeffrey4l I thought about that, but are trying to keep things separate01:23
Jeffrey4lseparate patches? of separate container?01:24
sbezverknot to hit any possible upgrade/update issues when too many components in the same container01:24
sbezverkseparate containers01:24
sbezverkiscsi is not the only possible backend01:25
Jeffrey4lsbezverk, check this https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/ironic/ironic-conductor/extend_start.sh#L301:25
Jeffrey4lsbezverk, you can add a environment variable to load the module dynamic.01:25
sbezverkputting everything into the same cinder-volume could make it more complex than needed01:25
sbezverkJeffrey4l right but then I need to add conditions01:26
Jeffrey4li do not think add a sleep infinity container, and just load a kernel module is a good idea.01:26
Jeffrey4lsbezverk, just reuse cinder_volume?01:26
Jeffrey4lis there any upgrade issue for this?01:26
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sbezverkcinder-volume container can be used with other backends01:26
Jeffrey4ltbh, i do not see any issue.01:26
sbezverkceph, iscsis etc01:27
sbezverkdo I add all there?01:27
sbezverkdo not think it is right approach01:27
sbezverkbtw we use sleep a lot on k8s side01:27
Jeffrey4lsbezverk,  how about this http://paste.openstack.org/show/614974/01:28
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add vlan tenant network support  https://review.openstack.org/47441601:29
sbezverkJeffrey4l I agree it is possible solution, please comment then and we will need to discuss on k8s side if this approach does not break anything for us01:30
Jeffrey4lsleep is only use when you need a running env. but it is a little waste to use a sleep container load a kernel module.01:30
Jeffrey4lok.01:30
sbezverkwe try to keep clean and not cram everything to the same container01:30
sbezverkso what you suggest goes against a bit our strategy, but we can discuss01:31
Jeffrey4lunderstand. thanks.01:31
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sbezverkone last thing, it will break the logic we have with tgtd, since it is a separate container01:34
sbezverkpeople might get confused01:34
Jeffrey4ldoesn't tgtd have a process?01:34
Jeffrey4lrunning in container?01:34
openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add block_device_allocate_retries config option  https://review.openstack.org/47911901:36
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vhosakotsbezverk: if you do Jeffrey4l's approach (not use a sleeping helper container just to modprobe iscsi_target_mod) and conditionally do it in the extend_start.sh of cinder-volume container, will it get hit for other backends like ceph?01:41
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sbezverkvhosakot : I do not think we will go with cinder-volume approch, I think we just get a special image in k8s01:42
sbezverkthen01:42
vhosakotsbezverk: ah ok cool01:43
Jeffrey4lvhosakot, what's mean by " it get hit for other backends like ceph?"01:43
vhosakotJeffrey4l: meaning, will "modprobe iscsi_target_mod" done/ executed for ceph backend too?01:43
sbezverkvhosakot : nope, it will not be loaded01:44
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Jeffrey4lwhen using condition load, it will not load.01:44
vhosakotsbezverk: cool cool01:44
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Jeffrey4lon the other hand, load the mod is not a big deal when using ceph only.01:44
sbezverkthat is what we want to avoid, adding backend speific logic to cinder-volume01:45
vhosakotright, an extra (unused) module won't be a bug deal for ceph, at the same time, I do get that avoiding backend-based if-else conditions in cinder-volume is good.01:46
vhosakotbug==big*01:46
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Jeffrey4lthe benefit of "cinder-volume soltuion" is once "iscsi_target_mod" is unload, simplely restart cinder_volume works.01:48
vhosakotJeffrey4l: have you run upgrade with stable/ocata?01:48
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add VMware DataStore support to cinder  https://review.openstack.org/45213101:50
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sbezverkJeffrey4l would you be ok at least for the change to cinder-volume? if I make is as a separate change?01:51
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Jeffrey4lvhosakot, upgrade from ocata? or to ocata?01:52
Jeffrey4lsbezverk, yep. i like that approach.01:52
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vhosakotJeffrey4l: upgrade to Ocata.. I meant, have you run N-->O?  doung and I are implementing O-->P upgrade now... tha last upgrade I ran was N-->O and some services were not upgraded successfully.01:53
sbezverkJeffrey4l cool, then for now I will make a separate patch just for cinder-volume01:53
Jeffrey4lcontinue the benefit: "sleep solution" container may be run after cinder-volume, which may cause issues.01:53
Jeffrey4lvhosakot, i ran successfully. which services failed? mariadb?01:54
vhosakotJeffrey4l: yes, mariadb and metadata agent too.01:54
Jeffrey4li am not surprise about mariadb. but metadata agent should be OK.01:55
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vhosakotJeffrey4l: ok, I'll check again01:56
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla master: Adding python-rtslib to cinder-volume for lioadm support  https://review.openstack.org/48237501:57
sbezverkJeffrey4l here you go ^^^01:57
sbezverkby the way cinder volume does not have target bits01:58
Jeffrey4lsbezverk, are u want to use cinder_volume to sleep infinity? or load dynamic?01:58
sbezverkJeffrey4l no I do not want use cinder-volume for this02:00
sbezverkcinder-volume change is needed because the code uses rts lib when lioadm is used as iscsi helper02:00
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sbezverkI still want to use a separate container for target things02:01
sbezverkbut I will check with kfox1111 about it tomorrow02:01
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla master: Adding new iscsi-target image to support lioadm  https://review.openstack.org/48185802:11
sbezverkJeffrey4l you mentioned that this PS would be ok by you, right? https://review.openstack.org/48237502:12
Jeffrey4lyep. +2ed.02:13
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vhosakotsbezverk: +2'ed too02:21
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sbezverkJeffrey4l would it be ok to ported to newton, wehn cinder-volume change gets merged?02:26
Jeffrey4lsbezverk, yes. I think so.02:26
sbezverkJeffrey4l  thanks02:27
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Jeffrey4lnp.02:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Fix zun log dir permissions  https://review.openstack.org/48096102:46
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openstackgerritjimmygc proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Swift backend support to Glance  https://review.openstack.org/45205902:55
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openstackgerritjimmygc proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Swift backend support to Glance  https://review.openstack.org/45205903:06
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Do Not Merge, kolla-kubernetes gate tests  https://review.openstack.org/46106303:47
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spsuryamorning all03:57
sdakehi spsurya03:57
sdakehow ya been03:57
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding alternative iscsi_helper support  https://review.openstack.org/48169004:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Adding python-rtslib to cinder-volume for lioadm support  https://review.openstack.org/48237504:19
spsuryasdake: sup04:33
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spsuryagood04:33
spsuryaHope you also good04:34
MarginHuI want to set docker_common_options parameter but find its type is dictionary.  why?04:35
masbergood afternoon, how can I start the nova_api container that has been stopped?04:50
masberI am using kolla-ansible04:52
masberI was thinking to do kolla-ansible deploy but I was wondering whether there is a better way to do it04:53
MarginHudocker restart nova_api04:54
masberMarginHu, the container is stopped04:55
masber*deleted sorry04:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Replace http with https  https://review.openstack.org/48197505:06
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix option api_v1 in tempest.cof  https://review.openstack.org/48240805:42
zhubingbing_Hi guys05:42
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spsuryasup zhubingbing_05:45
zhubingbing_https://review.openstack.org/48240805:45
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix option api_v1 in tempest.conf  https://review.openstack.org/48240805:57
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masberhi, is there a date for the 4.0.1 images release?06:24
MarginHuI found I failed to wget https://tarballs.openstack.org/kolla/images/centos-source-registry-ocata.tar.gz06:26
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Pull cinder cephx keyring only when enable_cinder is true in nova  https://review.openstack.org/48179306:39
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openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [WIP] Implement Keystone zero-downtime upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/48008108:14
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duonghqspsurya, ping08:23
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spsuryaduonghq: hi..09:12
spsuryawasn't around09:12
spsuryaregarding this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480081/09:13
spsurya?09:13
reidracanyone using Oracle Linux that would like to look at this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467219/09:19
reidracTL;DR: replacing the not-so-good td-agent RPM with a fluentd RPM maintained by CentOS SiG. Looks good for CentOS/RHEL, and it'd be best to use it on Oracle Linux too so all three distros use the same09:21
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egonzalezreidrac, pbourke may help with oracle09:27
pbourkemorning, yes Im looking at it right now :)09:27
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pbourkereidrac: I think in general its preferable to keep the rpm based distros as similar as possible09:28
pbourkereidrac: so Im in favor of doing the same for centos/rhel/oraclelinux09:28
reidracyes, it makes sense09:28
pbourkereidrac: only concern I have is Id love to see the 'gem install' go away09:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Fix wrong extra name for glance_store  https://review.openstack.org/48149309:30
pbourkereidrac: as soon as we add this we require operators to have gem mirrors to build this image without internet access. Im just looking at the moment and it seems many of the plugins we're installing are deprecated now. Is there a reason we are installing them for centos but not for rhel?09:30
reidracpbourke: I guess those plugins could be cooked into an RPM, right?09:30
reidracto be honest, fluentd is a bit of a mess; I've been doing some work to port it to SUSE and I'm not happy09:30
pbourkeyeah09:31
reidracand upstream doesn't seem to be too helpful09:31
egonzalezpbourke, updating the deprecated plugins means upgrade fluentd version too iirc09:32
reidracbut stable is still 0.12.36?09:32
pbourkehmm yes seems to be09:33
pbourkehow heavily do we depend on these plugins09:33
egonzalezguess we fully depend on them, grok, grep, elasticsearch, rewrite, etc. all are settings used in config09:34
egonzalezanybody know where is the fluentd-distgit repo files?09:35
reidracpackaging those plugins in a RPM and submitting that to CentOS SiG repo should be possible09:36
reidracpbourke: build the image without inet access? I thought in those cases it'd better to distribute the images directly09:37
pbourkeactually it seems we already gem install those plugins so it's not necessarily your problem ;)09:37
pbourkein some cases but a lot of companies need to build from internal mirrors09:37
reidracOK, got you; still that's a lot of mirrors :)09:38
reidracI like the change as it is; it can be refined later09:38
reidracjust removing td-agent and having a sane RPM is a Win09:39
pbourkereidrac: yes it seems good - if you can just make it the same for rhel/centos/oraclelinux (as much as possible) then that would be great09:39
pbourkereidrac: and maybe in the future we can look into changing fluentd ;)09:40
reidracpbourke: is not my change; but the guy in changer seems open to criticism09:40
reidrac*in charge09:40
pbourkereidrac: ah sorry I thought it was yours09:40
reidracpbourke: nope, I'm just advocating it after my bad experience with td-agent (and because it is really unlikely it'll work on SUSE, and that would block my kolla port from being merged I think)09:41
egonzalezsome fluentd gem plugins are present is opstools repo https://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/opstools/x86_64/logging/09:41
reidracegonzalez: perhaps we can ask the guy to explore that in a different PR; I wouldn't like him to give up on it09:42
egonzalezreidrac, wfm, i'd only wait for merge all rpm distros with same config09:43
reidracegonzalez: +109:43
egonzalezreidrac, re suse, does differ too much config from all other rpm with suse? at the very end, suse is just another rpm distro (except the package manager)09:44
reidracegonzalez: there are few suse-isms re: integration with YaST09:45
reidracbut so far the changes are minimal09:45
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reidracI have keystone and dependencies + the vagrant dev enviroment09:46
reidracif I get fluentd to work in SUSE, I'll submit those changes09:46
reidracbecause at the moment I have to run fluentd in a centos container, and that's not ideal09:47
egonzaleznote my ignorance about suse, but changing the macros install to use zypper instead of yum may work(over simplifying ofc)09:47
reidracegonzalez: ansible has tiny changes; docker images a bit more09:47
reidraceg. crond binary is actually cron09:47
reidracdon't ask me why09:48
reidracfew images don't require changes other than using zypper09:48
reidracin other cases the package games are different; but as I said I tried to keep it minimal and it is just few branches on Dockerfiles09:49
reidrac*package names09:49
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reidracmy only blocker is td-agent; and although I've been exploring the possibility of a fluentd package, it has few required gems that aren't packaged for SUSE so I may need time to get all that sorted09:50
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egonzalezreidrac, most gems are also not packaged for centos, will need to use the geminstall too09:56
reidracegonzalez: yes, I'm exploring that as an option; thanks09:57
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egonzalezwe need to take care of merging the change in kolla, ansible gates will be broken until we rework common role10:00
masbergood afternoon all, I am using ceph as a data plane, is it possible to connect ceph with the object storage service? it is required by ironic to download the images for deployment. I am using centos binary 4.0.0 images10:01
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egonzalezmasber, swift or radosgw?10:04
hawiis there any good known way to resinstall fluentd container?10:04
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masberegonzalez, radosgw10:05
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egonzalezmasber, enable_ceph_rgw: yes10:06
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egonzalezhawi, by reinstall means replace with newer version?10:07
hawino, with same version - it tends to fail in some cases10:07
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hawii'm running 4.0.0 - can't update it. the thing is that i cant reconfigure some things because fluentd fails on one controller and playbook doesnt want to continue: {"failed": true, "msg": "The conditional check 'container_state.Running == false' failed. The error was: error while evaluating conditional (container_state.Running == false): 'dict object' has no attribute 'Running'"}10:08
hawisomething like this10:08
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masberegonzalez, sorry I ment I currently have "ceph_rgw: yes" but I don't have endpoint for object storage. i need object storage endpoint to create a temporary url https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/install/configure-glance-swift.html10:14
egonzalezmasber, need to enable_ceph_rgw_keystone: yes to create swift endpoints10:15
egonzalezis not enabled by default when enabling rgw10:16
masberthank you, I guess this option should be in enable_ceph_rgw_keystone right?10:18
egonzalezmasber, yep10:18
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hawiafter adding designate i cant add any floating ips: https://pastebin.com/5ikgcq9C10:19
masberI don't need enable_swift: "yes" right? (just double checking)10:19
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egonzalezmasber, no, swift should be disabled, deploy will check that before create endpoint10:22
egonzalezhawi, have you followed designate guide? there are some manual steps10:22
egonzalezhawi, https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/doc/designate-guide.rst#neutron-and-nova-integration10:22
egonzalezneutron need to know to which domain create floating ips10:23
egonzalezs/neutron/designate10:23
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jbadiapaegonzalez, have you got a minute?10:35
egonzalezjbadiapa, sure10:35
jbadiapaegonzalez, it's to ask about the last comment about the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467219 ?10:36
jbadiapaabout the breaking the ansible gates10:36
egonzalezjbadiapa, yeah, installing fluentd package rather than tg will change binary10:36
egonzalezansible gates use tg-agent.conf and tg-agent binary to start fluentd10:36
egonzaleznot sure if more changes are needed, or what differs in the config file10:37
jbadiapaegonzalez, the only thing to change is the path/name of the files , the rest of the things should be the same10:39
jbadiapamaybe a symbolic link will do the work, need to test it10:40
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egonzalezI would prefer maintain configuration in ansible repo, similar cases is with python paths, ubuntu != centos and need conditionally names in templates10:42
jbadiapaegonzalez, thx for the warning10:42
egonzalezjbadiapa, another question, redhat fluentd rpm have gem plugins installed or as dependency?10:43
jbadiapaegonzalez, Nope, the plugins need to be installed as rpm10:46
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reidracjbadiapa: and centos requires a gem install? what is the difference?10:47
egonzalezopstools repo does not have all required plugins as rpm10:47
egonzalezfluentd wont work in that case(at least in ansible) which requires grok, elasticsearch, parser and grep10:48
openstackgerritPaul Bourke (pbourke) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Improve Swift ring setup sample script  https://review.openstack.org/48250810:48
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reidracjbadiapa: does rhel install ops tools repo from centos?10:53
reidracwhere is fluentd package coming? :)10:55
reidrac*from10:55
jbadiapareidrac, well, I need to verify but yes.10:57
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Update simple_cell_setup to manual creation  https://review.openstack.org/48251311:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Use monasca master tarballs  https://review.openstack.org/48111811:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Make glance filesystem_store_datadir configurable.  https://review.openstack.org/45209411:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix designate-api listen interface  https://review.openstack.org/48223811:29
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Test fluentd kolla change  https://review.openstack.org/48252811:55
egonzalezjbadiapa, ^^ this change may work(not tested)11:56
egonzalezjbadiapa, what im not sure is the behaviour while upgrading changing /var/run/<td-agent/fluentd>11:57
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openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow for running standalone Ironic w/o keystone  https://review.openstack.org/47692712:11
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sean-k-mooneyo/ are there issues with the ci currectly? specifcally with tarballs.openstack.org?12:23
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egonzalezsean-k-mooney, yep, yesterday was a overload in network pulling tarballs and infra disabled it12:26
sean-k-mooneyegonzalez: ah ok running the command locally semed to work but wget -q -c -O /tmp/centos-binary-registry-master.tar.gz http://tarballs.openstack.org/kolla/images/centos-binary-registry-master.tar.gz was failing in the gate12:27
sean-k-mooneyegonzalez: is the ci still overloaded or is it fine to kick off a recheck?12:28
egonzalezsean-k-mooney, inc0 is working on a proxy cache for tarballs12:28
sean-k-mooneyegonzalez: ok just asking for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408872/12, the ci wont actully execute the code i wrote so not sure its worth a recheck but the red is bugging me12:29
egonzalezi'm still seeing some jobs failing because cannot download the registry12:29
egonzalezif is a kolla gate is fine, but ansibles soma fails12:29
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sean-k-mooneyegonzalez: ya its ansible as i said the review is for a contrib playbook so the ci wont run the code anyway so ill leave it for now.12:31
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manheimHi guys12:33
manheimi've manged to reproduce the metadata agent issue i had yesterday12:33
manheimnow it's on my env and i can play around with it12:33
egonzalezmanheim, what metadata issue?12:34
manheimso my VM does not got the metadata stuf, like a key12:34
manheimlogs incoming12:34
manheimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25067985/12:35
manheimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25067990/12:36
manheimthe second log is neutron-metadata-agent12:36
manheimthe first one is the neutron-ns-metadata-proxy12:36
masberhi all, sorry another question, I am getting a none authorized 401 error from glance when ironic is trying to push the image to the machine, I am looking into the ceph logs to see if I can find the reason of the error but they are empty (/var/lib/docker/volumes/kolla_logs/_data) is there any other place to find the logs?12:36
egonzalezmanheim, mind sharing nova compute log too?12:37
manheimsure thing, this is all kvm so no hyperv12:37
manheimnova-api?12:38
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egonzaleznova-compute12:38
egonzalezmanheim, recently show metadata errors caused by a recent change in nova, was fixed last week iirc12:39
manheimso now i have master code with 4.0.0 images, yesterday i had stable/ocata12:39
sean-k-mooneymasber: some logs can be seen via docker logs <glance container name>12:40
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egonzalezmanheim, sorry, metadata is handled by nova-api12:41
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egonzalezshould be in nova-api logs12:41
manheimsure, let me reboot a vm12:41
openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Test fluentd kolla change  https://review.openstack.org/48252812:46
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IRC-Source_14475Hi all, i am getting the following error when running "kolla-ansible genconfig" :12:52
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IRC-Source_13808https://thepasteb.in/p/zmh8VVwAEoNtZ12:53
IRC-Source_13808any ideas?12:54
gemaIRC-Source_13808: from the error you are missing ansible_eth0 config12:54
manheimegonzalez hmm nothing interesting in nova-api logs12:55
IRC-Source_13808Will try to do some googling and get back to it, thanks gema!12:56
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egonzalezmanheim, ansible or k8s? is memcached running fine?12:59
manheimansible12:59
egonzalezmanheim, when were images build?13:00
manheimi pulled them13:01
manheimsame for the stable/ocata env13:01
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rwellumegonzalez: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482217 - this is to address the CI issue?13:06
egonzalezrwallner, guess yes, not sure what exactly does13:07
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rwellumegonzalez: rwellum no rwallner  - he gets a lot of my replies :)13:08
rwallnerhaha yep, no worries :)13:09
egonzalezsorry one more time rwallner :)13:09
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manheimshouldn't there be a nova-metadata service?13:10
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egonzalezmanheim, nope, nova-api is the proxy between neutron metadata and nova13:12
egonzaleznova-matadata was with nova-network iirc13:12
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jbadiapaegonzalez, thx for the changereview13:15
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masberwhen kolla-ansible installs ceph, does it generates a STORE_KEY?13:22
masberthat STORE_KEY is later used by glance and swift13:22
rwellumping sbezverk13:25
manheimhah, fount the issue13:25
manheimfound*13:25
sbezverkrwellum : hey what is up?13:25
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding alternative iscsi_helper support  https://review.openstack.org/48169013:26
manheimthere is a issue with a config in metadata_agent.in13:27
manheim“nova_metadata_host” should be “nova_metadata_ip"13:27
manheimmisspelled config option13:27
manheimi've changed the config name and works13:27
egonzalezmanheim, metadata host is only present in neutron master code13:29
egonzalezis ansible/docker images in same release?13:29
manheimthey are 4.0.013:29
manheimi see13:29
manheimshould have built new ones for current release13:29
manheimright?13:29
egonzalezansible ocata(4.0.0) should not have metadata_host option13:30
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egonzalezkolla-ansible and kolla should be in same release, so they share correct config13:30
manheimi see13:31
manheimso there is not an issue per se, it's just that i mixed the releases13:31
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rwellumsbezverk: so I tried again this morning and no issues with neutron-openvswitch13:32
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rwellumI did use a new VM.13:33
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla stable/ocata: Adding python-rtslib to cinder-volume for lioadm support  https://review.openstack.org/48256413:33
sbezverkrwellum : good news :)13:34
egonzalezmanheim, yep, just deployed and it works13:35
sbezverkegonzalez I needed a backport of 482564 which is already merged into master13:35
egonzalezsbezverk, btw in k8s is cinder-api running under apache or serverlet?13:37
sbezverkegonzalez : servlet13:38
egonzalezsbezverk, cinder-api was not working in .deb distros because they removed systemd service in ocata, we moved config to apache only for ubuntu in ocata in current master all are running under apache13:39
egonzalez*missing only one change in ansible side13:39
rwellumsbezverk: check out: https://github.com/RichWellum/k8s - looks at the sample output bottom section of the readme. That was from this morning. My tool is working well I think.13:40
sbezverkegonzalez : thanks for heads up, so far we did not see any issues, but I guess because we do not test with debian13:41
egonzalezsbezverk, ubuntu binary should be failing too due missing cinder-api command in 4.0.013:42
manheimkolla-build --base ubuntu --base-tag 16.04 --type source13:43
manheimis this ok for image building if I have the latest code?13:43
egonzalezumm,  I see, gates run with 3.0.213:43
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manheimegonzalez that ok?13:44
egonzalezmanheim, base-tag is not needed, 16.04 is default, maybe you want to push to a registry and also give a namespace13:44
sbezverkegonzalez : I will double check but I have not seen failures13:45
manheimok, so it's ok, ty13:45
sbezverkegonzalez if you could ack the backport, that would be great13:45
egonzalezsbezverk, done, lets wait gates13:45
sbezverkegonzalez thanks a lot13:45
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sbezverkrwellum : you built another tool :) man, so many of these13:46
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rwellumsbezverk: Mines unique :)13:46
sbezverkrwellum : of course!!13:47
spsuryasbezverk: rwellum hi.....13:47
spsuryasbezverk: i tested this tool13:47
spsurya:)13:47
rwellumI started it before I knew about the playbooks, shell-script etc.13:47
rwellumYeah some people have found it the only one that works for them on a vm.13:47
spsuryafrom development perspective it is good IMO13:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix option api_v1 in tempest.conf  https://review.openstack.org/48240813:48
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sbezverkspsurya I absolutely was not saying it was bad, just stating the fact that there are so many. The more important that it gets supported longer than just the time to develop it..13:54
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spsuryasbezverk: yes agree13:56
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spsuryabrad and jascott tools also there14:00
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spsuryaansible approaches almost like they are heading towards production level14:01
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manheimi have another question14:04
manheimlet's say i have stable/ocata with 4.0.0 and I want to do an upgrade14:04
manheimto let's say 5.0.0, i know it not yet released but follow my idea14:04
manheimi edit the release version in globals and d othe upgrade14:05
manheimbut what about the kolla and kolla-ansible code?14:05
manheimi just pip uninstall kolla, git pull and install again?14:06
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egonzalezmanheim, if using git repo, just checkout master and ./tools/kolla-ansible, if using pip, pip install -U kolla-ansible(does not work with master)14:09
manheimthis bofore or after the upgrade? or does not matter14:12
manheimthis should be specified in the docs imho14:12
egonzalezbefore14:14
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manheimand from them on i should always use ./tools/kolla-ansible14:17
manheimi usually like to use git14:17
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egonzalezmanheim, if use git better use local commands from tools, is cleaner about dependency and conflicts with pbr14:24
egonzalezpbourke, i'm thinking about the glance+swfit issue, probably missing python-swift in glance images14:25
pbourkeegonzalez: perhaps, not sure14:25
egonzalezwith source should works because swift store is installed14:26
manheimok cool, i'm doing an upgrade right now. ty14:26
egonzalezmanheim, in multinode will fail due mariadb upgrade to master issue14:26
manheimi'm doing aio atm14:27
manheimwant to see only the workflow14:27
pbourkeegonzalez: im using source14:27
pbourkeegonzalez: it feels a bit like a conf issue as I got the same error even before I noticed glance-swift.conf wasn't been copied over correctly14:27
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jamesbensonmorning all :-)14:36
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rwellummorning jamesbenson14:45
openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Test fluentd kolla change  https://review.openstack.org/48252814:47
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rwellumspsurya: if you look at the output of my tool - I've significantly enhanced it with a progress meter etc.14:56
spsuryarwellum: sure, I will check tomorrow14:58
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rwellumhey sbezverk - don't laugh - I'm playing with kolla mitaka release. I am seeing images missing although they are in the kolla release page.15:23
rwellum  5m2m5kubelet, ubuntuk8sspec.initContainers{initialize-ovs-db}WarningFailedFailed to pull image "docker.io/kolla/centos-source-openvswitch-db-server:2.0.3": rpc error: code = 2 desc = Tag 2.0.3 not found in repository docker.io/kolla/centos-source-openvswitch-db-server15:23
sean-k-mooneyo/ QQ is there any documentation for the mariadb_recovery playbook. other then the mariardb contaiers are stopped is there any other requirement to run this?15:23
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openstackgerritPaul Bourke (pbourke) proposed openstack/kolla master: Tweaks to allow Horizon dev mode  https://review.openstack.org/47459815:32
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manheimshouldn't kolla-build only build images from services that are enabled in globals.yml?15:42
manheimi have 4.0.2 and it built like all services15:43
pbourkemanheim: kolla-build doesn't read globals.yml15:43
pbourkemanheim: globals.yml is for the ansible side15:43
manheimoh, it's only for pull15:43
reidrackolla-build.conf has some bits; but other than providing a list of regex names on the cli on kolla-build; there's no other way of limiting which images are built15:44
sean-k-mooneymanheim: you can use the profiles in kolla build to define what should be used or pass a regex as the last postional argument to kolla-build15:44
manheimyes, i remember now15:45
reidracyes, what sean-k-mooney said way clearer than me :)15:45
manheimty, i confused pull with build for a moment there15:45
sbezverkpbourke: do you mind ack this one please? https://review.openstack.org/48256415:45
sean-k-mooneymanheim: i have done that too. its also take a while to realist that in multinode you need to run pull before deploy id you rebuilt your images15:46
inc0good morning15:46
sean-k-mooneyo/ good morning inc015:47
manheimhello15:47
inc0damn I couldn't wake up today :/15:47
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enable proxy cache for tarballs download  https://review.openstack.org/48221715:47
pbourkesbezverk: is there any context on that? I saw several patches today in this area and dont feel I understand fully15:47
sean-k-mooneyinc0: on the proxies would you have an issue later with introducing some proxy containers in kolla to speed up builds. its been on my todo list for a while to automate15:49
sbezverkpbourke: it is backport15:50
sbezverkfrom master15:50
inc0sean-k-mooney: you mean setup apt/yum mirror with docker for builds later?15:50
pbourkesbezverk: in that case I dont see any cherry-picked from msg15:50
sbezverkwe need rts-lib in cinder-volume15:50
sbezverkI accidently removed it :(15:50
sbezverkwhile modifying the commit message15:51
sbezverkbut you can see it is merged in master15:51
sean-k-mooneyinc0: ya as an optional part of the boot strap playbook. it wont help in the gate but its usefull as a dev15:51
inc0https://github.com/ThomasSteinbach/docker/tree/master/apt-mirror <- stuff like that already exists15:52
inc0I'd be reluctant to do it in kolla15:52
sean-k-mooneyinc0: i set apt and pypi caches up interally on our cloud to hide the latency of our internal network15:52
sean-k-mooneyinc0: ya i just used container form the docker hub15:53
inc0yeah that's fine15:53
jamesbensonmorning inc015:54
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vhosakotone minute to noon here already :)15:59
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dmsimardinc0: Could you please point me in the right direction as to how the logs are ending up in a file per image here: http://logs.openstack.org/90/479890/2/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-build-centos-binary-centos-7-nv/9e9fa9d/logs/build/16:08
dmsimardIt looks like it's from https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/tests/test_build.py16:08
dmsimardWhich would not be available from a "pure" kolla-build command ?16:08
inc0I'm pretty sure it's config16:09
inc0let me find it16:09
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inc0https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/kolla/common/config.py#L252 <- try this16:12
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dmsimardinc0: looking16:13
vhosakotdmsimard: gate sets "logs_dir = /tmp/logs/build" in /etc/kolla/kolla-build.conf before building images --> http://logs.openstack.org/18/481118/1/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-build-centos-binary-centos-7-nv/faf8732/console.html#_2017-07-11_08_00_19_76333716:16
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vhosakotdmsimard: which is then tarred by this code in https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/tools/gate_run.sh#L71-L73.16:17
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inc0vhosakot: we should submit talk today16:17
inc0wanna do the honors?16:18
vhosakotinc0: I know... got few meetings for the next 2 hrs... ready after that...16:18
rwelluminc0: vhosakot I was looking at the two ethers today.16:18
rwellumNeed to combine abstracts and pick a title :)16:18
rwellumI numbered the title - care to vote?16:18
vhosakotinc0: rwellum we have a lot of text in the ethers... just need to compress/find the best lines16:18
rwelluminc0: you have time to do a first pass of combining?16:19
inc0yes, give me few minutes to get something heavy on caffeine16:20
rwellumI'll be happy to correct any Penglish.16:20
rwellumsure16:20
inc0yeah, I know that I need to Polish my English;)16:21
vhosakotlol16:21
inc0can you link second etherpad?16:21
rwellumhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sydney-gate-talk16:22
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sbezverkinc0: do you want to add k8s gates portion ;) ??16:23
inc0sbezverk: it's mostly about building tho16:24
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sbezverkinc0: ok, got it16:24
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vhosakotkfox1111: sbezverk: aren't you submitting any k8s talks?16:25
vhosakotI meant about kolla-k8s16:25
sbezverkvhosakot : not that I am aware of, I will go to summit as a tourist, hurray!!16:26
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vhosakotsbezverk: :)  yeah, if we're doing that any of us think is useful for the community, ops, cloud users, good to submit it as a talk IMO... although, yeah, I love tourism the best :)16:27
vhosakotinc0: I'm almost done the upgrade talk's etherpad.16:28
sbezverkvhosakot : nobody came up with any good ideas for k8s talks16:28
vhosakotsbezverk: you can extend Boston's sleep optimization talk and show how kolla-k8s further allows ops to sleep happily more :)16:29
rwellumsbezverk: seriously? Hottest technology around.16:29
rwellumHow about the push towards release 1.0?16:29
sbezverkrwellum : sure I am really bad with coming up with ideas like that16:29
rwellumCeph integration. Upgrades. Presentation on the resilience. Even a project-update.16:30
inc0I'm doing project update16:31
inc0but that's for all of kolla, not just k8s16:31
rwelluminc0: for kolla-k8s too?16:31
rwellumAh16:31
rwellumWe have two ansible playbook solutions in very good shape.16:32
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rwellumBTW this looks like a nice free kubernetes training: https://www.linux.com/news/kube-mooc/2017/7/new-kubernetes-online-course-now-open-sign-free16:35
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rwellumsbezverk: regarding the no-one came up with any good ideas - was it discussed - like kolla weekly meeting. Just wondering if I missed the conversation.16:36
sbezverkinc0: rwellum : what do you think if I submit kolla-k8s current state overview?16:36
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sbezverkrwellum : I probably missed that meeting16:37
inc0we didn't have meeting like that16:37
inc0I'll add it to tomorrows agenda16:37
sbezverkinc0: ahh ok, sure16:37
inc0don't forget that summit is in Nov16:38
sbezverkkind of cutting it too close16:38
sbezverkto the dead line16:38
inc0well meeting is about summarize of who submits talks at all16:38
rwellumsbezverk: I think that's a great idea. It would compliment what inc0 is going to go over.16:38
inc0talk submissions is responsibility of submitters16:38
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rwellumsbezverk: close but all we need are titles and abstracts.16:39
inc0and presenters;)16:40
rwellumyeah true. I may have to be a stowaway on a boat or something just to get there.16:40
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rwellumSounds like sbezverk is going though - not sure about kfox1111 , and vhosakot and you inc0 too, so plenty of presenters?16:42
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sbezverkrwellum : man , I cannot miss the opportunity to cross the equator ;)16:43
sbezverknever been in south hemisphere16:43
rwellumsbezverk: same. Lots of relatives there though.16:44
inc0I wanna try kangaroo steak.16:45
vhosakotyeah, I'm looking froward to the trip :)16:46
vhosakotinc0: so, is there a plan to do a kolla/kolla-k8s workshop like you did in Boston.  that was great actually?16:46
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inc0people liked it a lot16:49
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inc0but I'm not doing one again, I'll be happy to help on the site tho;)16:50
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manheimso i have a 4.0.2 deployment and I want to upgrade to master16:53
manheimso first i did git checkout master16:53
inc0manheim: build master images16:54
manheimand I want to build the new master images16:54
manheimbut16:54
inc0just git checkout master and kolla-build16:54
manheimthe build execitable is still from stable/ocata16:54
manheimi mean what about the code, not images16:54
rwelluminc0: kangeroo steak *shudder*16:55
manheimi just run kolla-build?16:55
inc0did you run pip install -U .16:55
inc0?16:55
manheimnope16:55
manheimforgot this :D16:55
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hawiwhat is actually needed to have all-in-one as fully functional? i in somehow can't create any volumes there, just dont remember, how it worked for me before17:02
inc0hawi: remember that cinder is not enabled by default17:03
hawii enabled it, still nothing17:03
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inc0ceph too?17:06
hawino ceph17:06
inc0what storage backend then17:06
inc0?17:06
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hawiis there some way to give disk from same machine?17:07
inc0well, I don't think so17:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla stable/ocata: Adding python-rtslib to cinder-volume for lioadm support  https://review.openstack.org/48256417:08
hawithen the only way is to enable ceph as well?17:08
inc0ceph or lvm/iscsi17:08
inc0or some other backend17:08
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jamesbensonto stop using tls, do you have to destroy and redeploy or just comment it out and deploy?17:30
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inc0comment it out and reconfigure should do the trick17:31
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jamesbensoncool, and enabling it is just kolla-ansible certificates and kolla_enable_tls_external=yes, right?17:35
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jamesbensonah I think I found what I was missing..17:37
inc0gates are misbehaving17:39
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Do not merge! Testing gate  https://review.openstack.org/48264817:41
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serlex jamesbenson...is that used to enable https for horizon/17:41
serlexI have such requirement, but not sure kolla_enable_tls_external is what I need17:42
inc0serlex: it does17:42
inc0it'll enable https for all of public endpoints17:42
inc0it's really just haproxy conf17:42
serlexok cool, I will give it a try now, any specific requriements for certificate file? ie permissions/17:45
inc0serlex: check tls docs17:46
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inc0I'm not great at that piece of code tbh17:46
serlexok roger17:48
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jamesbensonsorry serlex, I was away for a moment...17:55
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jamesbensonyes, be sure to enable kolla_external_fqdn17:57
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jamesbensonwhy does my openstack service list | grep horizon come back empty?18:16
inc0horizon doesn't have endpoint18:16
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jamesbenson:-( sorry about that.18:17
jamesbensonlol18:17
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inc0:D18:17
inc0horizon *is* an endpoint;)18:17
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jamesbensonI'm getting an Internal Server Error, deployed without issue, tried with TLS and without and getting an error like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/615060/18:18
inc0logs man18:18
jamesbensonroger18:18
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jamesbensonhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/615061/18:19
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inc0ahh I've seen this18:20
inc0it's fixed now, might need to rebuild horizon18:20
jamesbensonyeah, this was in 4.0.018:21
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jamesbensonI could try to do an upgrade to 4.0.2?18:21
inc0you'd need to build, but yeah18:22
inc0fresh stable build won't have this issue18:22
jamesbensonyeah, of course, I'm a pro at that now.18:22
jamesbenson4.0.2 not sure?18:22
jamesbensonI did manually build the 4.0.0 images ...18:22
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inc0https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/168683018:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1686830 in kolla pike "tzdata missing from upstream ubuntu docker images" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Eduardo Gonzalez (egonzalez90)18:24
inc04.0.2 has this fix18:24
jamesbensoncool18:24
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jamesbensoninc0, do you want me to recheck this bug? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481224/118:32
inc0jamesbenson: qq, did it really fix it?18:33
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jamesbensonit did fix the ceph time sync issue.  My other problem was something else however.18:33
inc0and for sure there was ceph sync issue right?;P18:33
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inc0;)18:34
inc0I mean it wasn't network problem all along?18:34
jamesbensonyes18:34
jamesbensonwell there were multiple things.18:34
jamesbenson:-/18:34
jamesbensonbut this did sync the clocks correctly.18:34
jamesbensonwhich is needed for ceph18:34
jbrooksHi all, I'm using kolla-ansible to pull the newton images from the docker hub on a CentOS 7 machine, and I'm getting an "Unknown status message" failure, even though the image was pulled. I assume it's because I'm using centos' docker and not the docker-engine docker, I'm guessing the centos docker gives a different status message18:35
jamesbensonjbrooks: try building your own images18:35
jamesbensonmaster isn't on the hub18:35
inc0jbrooks: docker --version please18:35
jbrooksI don't really care about master, I was just going to try w/ newton18:36
inc0also what jamesbenson said, it's better to build18:36
inc0even for newton18:36
jbrooksOK, I figured I'd save myself some time18:36
jbrooksDocker version 1.12.6, build 88a4867/1.12.618:36
inc01.12 should be fine18:36
inc0I'm not sure about this unknown status message tho18:37
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inc0all images are present and accounded for?18:37
jbrooksI can see that the image was in fact pulled18:37
jbrooksIt fails after the first one18:37
inc0kolla-ansible is newton too?18:37
jbrooksinc0, Ah, I didn't specify18:38
jbrooksI installed w/ pip18:38
inc0then it's ocata18:38
inc0and it might try to download images that didn't exist in newton18:38
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inc0brb need to hunt for some food18:39
jbrooksI guess I'll just build18:40
inc0that's best tbh18:40
inc0just make sure to install kolla and kolla-ansible newton18:41
inc0because ocata will build ocata18:41
inc0on the bright note, we're working on publishing images daily18:41
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rwelluminc0: so if switching between tags 3.x and 4.x, we need to specify different versions of kolla and kolla-ansible. Does that apply to kolla-kubernetes too?18:51
rwellumsbezverk: ping18:52
sbezverkinc0: if a change is in stable ocata, which tag for the image should be used?18:53
sbezverkrwellum pong18:53
rwellumsbezverk: does kolla-kubernetes change per tag?18:54
rwellumsbezverk: https://releases.openstack.org/teams/kolla.html18:54
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sbezverkrwellum : the same kolla-kubernetes can work with different tags with some minor modification in the way it is deployed19:00
rwellumok that's what I thought but the conversation above worried me.19:00
sbezverkthis is covered by the gate jobs .19:00
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rwellumsbezverk: are the gates running 2.x?19:01
jamesbensonsbezverk: stable ocata is 4.0.219:01
jamesbensonmaster will be tagged 4.0.319:01
rwellum4.0.2 doesn't work for me though - not kolla-k8s anyway.19:03
jamesbensoncan't comment on k8s19:03
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inc0sbezverk: if it was released already as tag, 4.0.219:06
inc0if you build top of the branch 4.0.319:06
sbezverkrwellum : gate runs 2.0.X, 3.0.X and 4.0X19:08
sbezverkinc0: can we update 4.0.2 tagged image at the hub?19:09
inc0sbezverk: can we use tarballs please?19:09
sbezverkinc0: none of the gate jobs uses tarbals19:10
sbezverkI do not mind to use it, just do not know if it is possible atm..19:11
inc0we need to start using them.19:11
inc0it should be19:11
inc0it's just registry issue19:11
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inc0we deploy k8s in gates with kubeadm right?19:12
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sbezverkinc0: yep19:14
inc0so insecure registry is going to be pita...19:14
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vhosakotyes, kolla 4.0.2 is stable/ocata https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475014/.19:18
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sbezverkinc0: I understand we should do it, but I have a specific need to upload updated 4.0.2 cinder-volume19:20
sbezverkimage19:20
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inc04.0.2 was tagged already...19:20
inc0also we backported your change to stable/ocata?19:21
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sbezverkinc0: yep19:25
sbezverkit was done this morning19:25
Mannheimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25070163/19:25
Mannheimthis was during an upgrade from 4.0.2 to master 5.0.0 images19:26
Mannheimhave you seen this before?19:26
inc0no:/19:28
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Mannheimkolla==5.0.0.0b3.dev114 & kolla-ansible==5.0.0.0b3.dev18319:31
jbrooksHow would I install the newton version of kolla-ansible?19:31
jbrooksI don't see it in pip or see a tag or branch for it in git19:32
inc0jbrooks: in newton there was just kolla19:32
inc0we've split kolla and kolla-ansible in ocata19:32
jbrooksah19:32
inc0in newton playbooks lives in ansible dir19:32
jbrooksI just tweaked the kolla_docker.py a bit to be happy w/ the message centos' docker gives19:36
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vhosakotjbrooks: yes, I keep getting forgetting that kolla-ansible has existed since Ocata, I was searching for newton too the other day19:45
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vhosakotMannheim: if the rabbitmq container is up, you should see more info when you run "docker exec -t rabbitmq /usr/local/bin/rabbitmq_get_gospel_node"19:53
vhosakotdocker exec -t rabbitmq "/usr/sbin/rabbitmqctl eval 'rabbit_clusterer:status().'19:54
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Mannheimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25070379/20:04
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vhosakotMannheim: yeah, so looks like rabbit cluster is down and gospel node cannot be found.20:10
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vhosakotMannheim: I've seen this issue when my /etc/hosts is screwed up, or rabbit host's hostname cannot be resolved20:10
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vhosakotinc0 is our rabbit expert :)20:11
Mannheimhmm, it's an AIO and the management IP of the node is in /etc/hosts20:11
vhosakotMannheim: https://www.google.com/#q=rabbitmq+hostname+mismatch    "rabbitmq hostname mismatch" is a famous topic on google :)20:11
Mannheimhah, cool, ty, do not have much exp with rabbitmq20:12
vhosakotMannheim: I think the fqdn must be reachable/resolved by rabbit20:12
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Mannheimit's the fqdn in hosts20:14
Mannheimand the host and the rabbit container have the same fqdn20:16
vhosakotMannheim: can you ping your fqdn/hostname?20:16
Mannheimyes i can20:18
vhosakotMannheim: this is how inc0 fixed this issue in our gate -->  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294713/20:20
vhosakot"getent hosts" was fialing at gate20:21
Mannheimok, net me se what I can do on this20:22
vhosakotMannheim: good luck20:24
Mannheimif i do the thing in the bootstrap playbook, i run upgrade after or do I have to redeploy?20:27
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Mannheimi'll see on it, anyways, thanks for the help20:48
inc0Mannheim: yeah for multinode rabbitmq you need hostnames to resolve20:49
Mannheimi have an AIO20:49
inc0still has to resolve hostname to IP from api_interface20:50
Mannheimyep, it's in hosts20:50
Mannheimi did a prechecks before deploy20:51
Mannheimi think that checks that20:51
Mannheimhah, think i got it20:52
Mannheimi put the fqdn on the 127.0.0.1 line20:52
Mannheimnow it passed20:52
Mannheimgetent hosts {{ hostvars[item]['ansible_hostname']20:53
Mannheimandthat is localhost20:53
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Mannheimso I put the fqdn on the line where localhost is also, 127.0.01 that is20:53
MannheimI also did a bootstrap-servers now, on the first deploy I did not do it20:54
Mannheimso it may be that20:54
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inc0bootstrap handles hostnames20:54
Mannheimbut precheck also passed with no bottstrap20:55
Mannheimso i thought i is ok20:55
inc0it might have been, nto sure20:55
inc0check if upgrade works now20:55
Mannheimit's upgrading20:56
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding alternative iscsi_helper support  https://review.openstack.org/48169020:56
Mannheimbtw, this can handle upgrades from releases to 2 releases ahead, e.g newton->pike?20:57
inc0no20:58
inc0that particular upgrade won't work for example20:58
inc0becasue during ocata nova requires one more step - creating database for cells20:58
inc0and we added this step in ocata and removed in pike20:58
Mannheimi see20:59
inc0which means n->p won't have this step and it won't work20:59
Mannheimi see, it's dependent on future implemented features21:00
Mannheimyou cannot know them now21:00
Mannheimwooo, it worked21:00
Mannheimso f awesome21:00
Mannheimnever thought i will do a OS upgrade in this life21:01
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inc0lol21:02
inc0that surprise says a lot about OpenStack;)21:03
Mannheim:D21:03
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inc0one of most important benefits of using Kolla is upgrade21:03
inc0s21:03
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Mannheimis there a backup mechanism for the containers?21:05
inc0containers - no, images will be there until removed21:05
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Mannheimhmm, do you intend to so something like that?21:06
inc0containers aren't really reasonable to backup21:07
inc0there is nothing saved in them21:07
inc0data we care about are in volumes21:07
inc0and backuping that is easy and out of scope of Kolla imho21:07
Mannheimthe currnet state of the cloud21:07
inc0cp -R /var/lib/docker/volumes21:07
inc0state of cloud is hard to define:)21:08
Mannheimyes, but it would be nice to have something built it, integrated21:08
Mannheimthink it will make it more atractable as a technologie21:08
inc0well, it's also prone to feature creep21:08
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inc0really dangerous place to be imho21:08
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Mannheimwell, i guess you can docker commit the containers21:13
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inc0no point really, it won't save anything meaningful21:14
inc0no database snapshot or vms21:14
Mannheimhmm, my point is, is kolla is so easily manageble coz of the containers, maybe something like this can be implemented21:16
Mannheimbu you may be right, think i don't yet see the big picture21:16
Mannheimon this topic21:16
inc0what I'm saying is it would be *really* hard to properly implement21:16
inc0as in, it could be project on it's own21:17
inc0easily21:17
Mannheimok21:17
Mannheimyeah, that is not an easy animal21:17
Mannheimit's an industry in itself21:18
inc0and it could be (and should be) written in a manner that could be used by most openstack installers, not just Kolla21:19
inc0so good idea in general, just not really easy to implement21:19
Mannheimsure21:20
Mannheimanyways, on upgrade docs21:20
Mannheimthink that the code part should be in the docs, what do you do with the running code21:21
Mannheimnow it covers only the images21:21
Mannheimi'll do a commit on this maybe21:21
Mannheimif you think this is the case21:21
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jemcevoyinc0:  Are you going to the Cloud Native PDX meeting tomorrow?22:52
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inc0jemcevoy: I might22:53
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inc0depends if my better half would need help with her volunteering22:53
jemcevoyIt is close to my place if you wanna park here and walk over.22:53
inc0cool thanks for heads up22:54
inc0I'll let you know tomorrow22:54
jemcevoyK22:54
inc0jascott1: ^22:54
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding alternative iscsi_helper support  https://review.openstack.org/48169023:32
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Install net-tools for neutron-base container  https://review.openstack.org/48179823:51
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