Tuesday, 2017-05-02

kfox1111sbezverk: pong00:01
kfox1111sbezverk: sorry. long latency today.00:02
sbezverkkfox1111: no worries00:02
kfox1111prep work for outage on wednesday.00:02
kfox1111whats up?00:02
sbezverkkfox1111: new canal is busted00:02
kfox1111ah.00:02
sbezverkkfox1111: https://github.com/projectcalico/canal/issues/6400:03
kfox1111yeah, I was standing up a new k8s this morning and was struggling a bit with it. not sure what changed yet.00:03
sbezverkkfox1111: they removed etcd storage00:03
kfox1111I switched to flannel quick just to make some progress with it.00:03
kfox1111oh. they want to etcdless by default?00:03
kfox1111interesting.00:03
sbezverkkfox1111: yep.. but the issue is missing file in the config map00:04
kfox1111ah.00:04
sbezverkthe problem is I do not know what should be in this file :) otherwise I would have added it to the config map to prove the issue00:04
kfox1111right...00:04
kfox1111its a problem with the calico side of things.00:05
kfox1111maby compare the newest canal with the calico-etcdless yaml?00:05
sbezverkkfox1111: can you check your running flannel's configmap for this file? /etc/kube-flannel/net-conf.json00:05
kfox1111https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coreos/flannel/master/Documentation/kube-flannel.yml00:05
kfox1111I used that one today.00:05
sbezverkit seems it is either missing from their configmap or the code by error is trying to access it00:06
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kfox1111yeah. net-conf is in it.00:06
sbezverkkfox1111: thanks cool, now I can try to trick it ;)00:06
kfox1111:)00:07
sbezverkyep, it is running now :)00:09
sbezverkcanal-v138v                                         3/3       Running   0          14s00:09
sbezverkkfox1111: so what should we do? for now use old/static canal.yaml until they fix it?00:11
sbezverkI mean the gate is broken00:12
spsuryamorning all00:12
sbezverkspsurya: morning00:12
sdakesbezverk sorry i stepped out - someone reported the deployment guide doesn't work as canal is no longer available in github00:19
sdakesbezverk i think unblocking the gate is crucial - making it run master code is secondary00:20
sbezverkkfox1111: got confirmation from canal people saying that the identified section was accidentally removed..00:21
sdakegating ftw ;)00:21
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kfox1111:)00:37
kfox1111so easy to break stuff without gating.00:37
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sbezverkkfox1111: yes, they already submitted fix, just needs to be approved00:39
sbezverkI suggest to give them until tomorrow00:39
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152700:43
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xinlianginr0, sdake: ping00:50
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152701:00
inc0xinliang: I'm here01:01
xinlianginc0: good evening. sorry for brother so late. I want to ask you some questons about how to setup the kolla gete CI01:02
inc0xinliang: no problem:) go ahead01:02
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xinliangI plan to setup a CI for aarch6401:02
inc0I hope I'll be helpuful, there are better people than me in terms of gates01:03
inc0cool, are you working with gema?01:03
xinliangYes01:03
inc0allright01:03
inc0so what we need is 3rd party CI01:03
inc0I never did that myself, but I think I've seen docs about that somewhere01:04
inc0give me a second01:04
xinliangyes, what the the ci platform look like. what are the software we need?01:04
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inc0xinliang: basically it's openstack01:05
inc0so infra will trigger openstack apis01:05
xinliangInc0: Do you mean that the gate CI is a bit like the other openstack projec gate?01:06
inc0I just asked them about docs on #openstack-infra channel01:06
inc0I think so01:06
xinliangOK, I will check the log on #openstack-infra channel. Do you remember which day?01:07
inc0https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/third_party.html01:08
inc0these are docs01:08
inc0talk to them if you have any questions01:08
inc0Jeffrey4l: you're about?01:08
inc0xinliang: Jeffrey4l is also good person to talk to, he knows everything there is to know about current Kolla CI01:09
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152701:10
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xinlianginc0: what's Jeffrey4l's base?01:14
inc0I believe Beijing?01:14
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xinliangok. that is great! we are in the same time:-)01:15
xinliangthanks inc001:15
inc0no problem, thank you guys for working on that!01:15
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openstackgerritjimmygc proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add vmware DVS support to kolla-ansible  https://review.openstack.org/45927001:24
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152701:37
openstackgerritzhuangzejian proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix a typo and complement doc in ceph-guide.rst  https://review.openstack.org/46043101:39
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openstackgerritzhuangzejian proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Project service has none description in deployment  https://review.openstack.org/45921101:48
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zhubingbingaround sdake?02:19
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openstackgerritChen proposed openstack/kolla master: Work for message to make more sense  https://review.openstack.org/46160203:17
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152703:31
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152703:42
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152703:56
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152704:09
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152704:21
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152704:29
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sdakesup zhubingbing05:24
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openstackgerritJawon Choo proposed openstack/kolla master: Override image's meta info.  https://review.openstack.org/46166207:35
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openstackgerritJawon Choo proposed openstack/kolla master: Override image's meta info.  https://review.openstack.org/46166207:39
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egonzalezmorning guys, can someone review this changes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461368/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460783/08:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add compute inventory precheck  https://review.openstack.org/46011808:05
openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Add compute inventory precheck  https://review.openstack.org/46166908:06
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narasimha_SVhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/454186/09:13
narasimha_SVcan anyone help me here with this review09:13
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narasimha_SV_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454186/ jefrey commented to not to have inventory_host name verification09:21
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openstackgerritzhouya proposed openstack/kolla stable/newton: modify global.yml to globals.yml  https://review.openstack.org/46169809:46
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berendtinc0: will we skip the team meeting tomorrow and next week because of the boston summit?09:49
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openstackgerritjunbo proposed openstack/kolla master: add netcat package in sahara-engine image  https://review.openstack.org/46170610:00
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egonzalezzhubingbing, sup10:05
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openstackgerritChen proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix a grammar issue  https://review.openstack.org/46173111:05
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openstackgerritjunbo proposed openstack/kolla master: add netcat package in sahara-engine image  https://review.openstack.org/46170611:13
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152711:29
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Finish/fix neutron sfc service  https://review.openstack.org/46174511:40
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Add sfc plugin into neutron-server image  https://review.openstack.org/46174811:43
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Finish/fix neutron sfc service  https://review.openstack.org/46174511:52
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egonzalezblallau, ping12:01
blallau_Hi12:01
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152712:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Cleanup /lib/modules volume mounts in containers  https://review.openstack.org/45421412:15
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152712:16
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openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add release note to deprecate some config files  https://review.openstack.org/46073812:38
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rwallneris there anyway to override a template that isn't pulled from "{{ node_config_directory }}" ? Such as https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/57fb2e735cef0fd798371b6c93f2181e424c219e/ansible/roles/ceph/tasks/config.yml#L1212:43
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egonzalezrwallner, config.jsons cannot be overrided(at least from current playbooks) but other files as ceph.conf can https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/57fb2e735cef0fd798371b6c93f2181e424c219e/ansible/roles/cinder/tasks/ceph.yml#L1112:46
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add release note to deprecate some config files  https://review.openstack.org/46073812:52
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rwallneryep, thanks egonzalez thats what i though12:53
egonzalezmaybe is worth add support to override config.json12:53
rwallnerwe have a case where we are running BGO on the `lo` interface and routing to the host, so the lines `hostvars[inventory_hostname]['ansible_' + cluster_interface]['ipv4']['address']` would get ther first 127 address and not the real bgp address12:54
rwallnerwe "could" and can create a dummy interface and hand that to kolla ansible and it should resolve, but debating whether or not changing kolla-ansible is worth it.12:55
rwallnerBGP = BGP*12:55
rwallnerBGO = BGP* ugh early morning haha12:55
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openstackgerritMathieu Rohon proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add skydive service  https://review.openstack.org/46092213:12
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openstackgerritMartin André proposed openstack/kolla master: Add Apache packages to zaqar container  https://review.openstack.org/46177913:16
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152713:22
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openstackgerritjunbo proposed openstack/kolla master: Add netcat package in sahara-engine image  https://review.openstack.org/46170613:26
openstackgerritjunbo proposed openstack/kolla master: Add netcat package in sahara-engine image  https://review.openstack.org/46170613:35
openstackgerritjunbo proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: mount /run in sahara-engine container  https://review.openstack.org/46178413:36
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sdakemorning13:39
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sdakeeanylin which images did you ahve neutron trouble with?13:40
zhubingbingmorning13:42
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spsuryasdake: morning13:52
eanylinMorning sdake: I tried that over the weekends actually13:53
eanylinefore the canal issue13:53
eanylinbefore*13:53
eanylinI dont have the error messages anymore in my logs but I think parts of neutron was not coming up fully13:53
eanylinneutron server and ovs were fine13:54
eanylinl3 etc was complaining about config keys13:54
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sdakeeanylin hmm - not sure - i had a look at neutron-server and he 4.0.0 centos source images were unmodified13:54
eanylinerror messages seem to suggest that its missing some of the required config keys13:55
sdakeI didnt' look at other images13:55
eanylinright, I used 4.0.0 image actually13:55
sdakecentos source?13:55
eanylinyeah13:55
eanylinjust that I pull from latest code13:55
sdakeocata is the only way to fly13:55
eanylinright13:55
sdakecentos source 4.0.0 works magnificantly for me nd hte gate13:55
sdakeso I think it is probably user erorr :)13:55
sbezverkeanylin: do you have logs? we test 4.0.0 at the gate, everything looks ok..13:56
eanylinok13:56
eanylinI need to find it again, was doing quite a lot of tests13:56
sdakeeanylin if you didn't clean up your enviornment probably13:56
sdakeproperly13:56
eanylinand had to use back the codes from about 2 weeks ago, before the major merge happened13:56
sdakeone thing that can happen is you can have old configmaps that are no longer valid13:56
eanylinok13:56
sdakewere youbuildling your own images?13:56
sdakewhich major merge are you speaking of13:56
eanylinI saw a lot of changes happening about 15 days ago I think13:57
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sdakeno 4.0.1 images have been built13:57
eanylinI used 4.0.0 centos source13:57
eanylindidnt change13:57
sdake4.0.0 are an immutable thing13:57
eanylinright, I am talking about the helm charts actually13:57
eanylinI think image is fine13:57
sdakeok- well that makes more sense now :)13:57
eanylinbecause if I used something from earlier everything came up fine13:57
eanylinbut again, it may be something else that I overlooked13:58
eanylinI dont rule out that13:58
sdakewell - your clouds.yaml and logs would be helpful :)13:58
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eanylinrule that out*13:58
eanylinright13:58
eanylinI will try again with latest codes since there are no known issues for you guys13:58
eanylinit was just strange that only part of neutron is not coming up13:58
eanylinas in, neutron server and ovs were fine but not others13:58
eanylinand they belong to the same service13:59
eanylinit gets stuck in init state looking for stuff13:59
sdakeeanylin ya dependency problem - not sure what was missing13:59
eanylinright13:59
eanylinI wasnt too sure too13:59
eanylindid the same steps13:59
eanylinand it worked for the older codes13:59
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sdakeeanylin have you tried using the microcharts directly?14:00
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eanylin_sorry, lost my connection briefly14:00
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openstackgerritNuman Siddique proposed openstack/kolla master: Support openvswitch-ovn docker images  https://review.openstack.org/45917914:01
eanylin_I will try again in this case, with the latest codes and let you guys know...14:02
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sbezverkkfox1111: please ping when you are around..14:09
spsuryasdake: sbezverk inc0 Jeffrey4l egonzalez and all i am not available for this week14:11
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spsuryakfox1111: FYI too14:12
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sdakespsurya roger - enjoy pto or whatever else ya got oging on :)14:13
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sdakespsurya fwiw I am kind of mia this week and next as this week is summit prep and next week is summit :)14:13
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spsuryasdake: yes14:16
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152714:17
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klindgrenhas anyone else ran into an issue mount /run into a container (as is done on nova-compute and neutron-openvswitch) causes the uid/gid information to revert to that of the host vs's the container.  Which breaks all the sudo operations?14:29
inc0good morning14:29
inc0klindgren: changing uid of nova user didn't help?14:30
klindgrentrying to work around it by just mapping in /run/libvirt and /run/openvswitch14:30
klindgrenre-usering all of the boxes in production is going to be a non-starter.  WE have a few thousand of them that we would need to do14:31
inc0I don't think mapping files works14:31
inc0we would do this if it would14:31
inc0klindgren: you can specify nova users pid/uid in images14:31
klindgrennot in newton14:31
inc0yes if you use template overrides14:32
inc0just create nova user with hardcoded uid at begginging of base14:32
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klindgrensince we are building liberty images, we haven't tried upgrading yet - hrm.  Let me think on that. I could pull in the uid/gid mapping from ocata and itterate through all of those users.14:33
inc0or rather, user kolla14:34
inc0upgrading will be fun14:34
inc0you'll need to chown files in shared volumes14:34
inc0or alternatively, if you feel adventorous (but it should work)14:34
inc0build kolla ocata images with newton openstack code14:34
inc0then you get all chmod/chown logic on upgrade14:35
inc0(you'll also need at least config.json from ocata kolla-ansible)14:35
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klindgrenSo what exactly is needed out /run for neutron-openvswitch-agent and nova-compute?14:36
inc0for nova compute its libvirt socket14:37
inc0you can try to remove this dependency by forcing nova to use tcp14:37
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152714:37
sdakeinc0 I saw this vague message on the ml: We tried to use mariadb package few months ago, but it turns out it14:37
sdakewas ancient version that broke horribly on multinode..14:37
inc0I don't think you can pull that off with ovs tho14:37
sdakeinc0 does that mean 4.0.0 images of ubuntu are broken?14:37
inc0sdake: negative14:37
inc0we fixed it14:38
sdakeok- could have said that :014:38
inc0in ML?14:38
sdakewe are using UCA version or some other version on ubuntu?14:38
sdakeya - the email was confusing (ateleasat to me)14:38
sdakebasically the way I parsed it is "ya we tested that its broken"14:38
inc0issue was, in early ocata we wanted to drop mariadb repo since there were mariadb packages in uca14:38
inc0but turns out they were badly outdated so we rolled back repo change14:39
klindgreninc0, but at least under centos - the libvirt run socket is under /var/run/libvirt not /run/14:39
inc0hmm14:39
inc0not sure then14:40
sdakeinc0 roger - thanks14:40
openstackgerritjunbo proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix saraha-engine authencation issue  https://review.openstack.org/46181414:40
sdakeklindgren /run is linked to /var/run14:40
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sdakesymlinked iirc14:40
sdakeif that is no longer the case, the playbooks need changing14:41
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sdakei never liked that we just used /run in the playbooks :(14:41
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152714:41
klindgrendrwxr-xr-x   36 root root 1360 May  1 13:43 run14:41
sdakeklindgren is that in the /var dir or / dir?14:41
klindgren /14:42
sdakegah14:42
sdakei don't suppose you would be willing to sed your codebase14:42
sdake(to try something out)14:42
sdakewhich version are you on btw?14:42
klindgrenso /var/run is mapped to /run14:42
inc0well no need for seding since it's his own codebase;)14:42
sdakeoh - ok :)14:42
sdakenm then14:42
inc0no...14:42
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inc0 /run is mapped to /run14:43
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sdake /var/run shoudl be symlinked to /run or visaversa by minimal host os install of centos14:43
inc0maybe it's centos thing14:44
klindgrenunder /var : lrwxrwxrwx.  1 root root    6 Mar 14 00:56 run -> ../run14:44
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sdakecool14:44
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sdakeall good then14:44
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inc0klindgren: then maybe try to mount /var/run:/run14:44
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sdakeinc0 we may have used /run in the playbooks because perhaps docker wasn't honoring symlinks14:45
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sdakejust specluation - not certain14:45
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klindgrenso sdake when I map /run into the nova-compute/neutron-openvswitch-agent containers inside the containers the userid/gid information changes to that of whats in the host14:46
inc0well since it's symlink on full dir14:46
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klindgrennot of whats in the container.14:46
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inc0it doesn't really matter,might as well use original dir14:46
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inc0klindgren: another idea, run these containers as root?14:47
inc0not ideal, but well14:47
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klindgrenwell I just mapped in /run/libvirt and /run/openvswitch into the nova container and /run/openvswitch for the neutron-ovs container, and things seem to be ok.  But I haven't attempted to deploy a vm yet.  But nova-compute was able to get the cpu options from libvirt.14:49
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klindgrenand neutron was able to create patch-ports between some bridges to br-int.14:49
inc0ok14:49
inc0well, I'm not sure if this is only thing we used14:49
inc0so make sure to test it heavily14:50
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klindgrenI just don't get why I am the only one runnning into issues.14:51
inc0well, they're not present in ocata14:51
inc0and you run into uid/gid conflict14:51
inc0I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be an issue if you'd have different uid/gid on host;)14:51
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klindgrendo you guys expect user namespacing to be enabled on the docker host?14:54
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inc0I think so... that's how docker rolls14:55
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klindgrenwell default for cent7 is no username spacing14:56
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klindgrenits "tech preview"14:56
inc0dunno about that14:57
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inc0bbiaf, moving to office14:59
Reepicheepsimple question,  on github openstack/kolla has a tagged release for 4.0.1 but on launchpad the 4.0.1 milestone is "not yet released", I'm assumeing the tag on the git repo is authoritive (don't change history) is that correct?15:00
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egonzalezReepicheep, tags are immutable and nothing changes once are created. Dunno why launchpad still in not yet released15:03
Reepicheepyeah.. I understand that.. so that would also meen the open issues on lauchpad would just roll into the next release 4.0.2?15:03
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egonzalezReepicheep, yep15:06
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Reepicheepegonzalez: thanks.. that is what I thought.. I just wanted to double check15:07
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egonzalezReepicheep, i'm not sure who creates the next release number on launchpad, but changes merged into 4.0.1 will be set as released once 4.0.2 is created and bugs in wip will wait to next release15:08
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152715:21
inc0back15:21
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152715:29
inc0berendt: I think I'll keep tomorrows meeting, if anyone is interested15:31
inc0but drop summit one ofc15:31
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152715:32
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sdakeReepicheep typically the launchpad version creation is managed by the release liason as that individual knows when a release is made :)15:35
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openstackgerritAndrey Arapov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Set --ipc option to "host" for nova_compute  https://review.openstack.org/46030815:47
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kfox1111morning.16:21
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kfox1111sbezverk: ping16:22
kfox1111spsurya: ping16:22
sbezverkkfox1111: gate ps is ready, needed to do a bit more clean up than originally expected but should be good now..16:22
sbezverkkfox1111: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461527/16:24
kfox1111sbezverk: did the need for cri=false go away?16:25
sbezverkkfox1111: yes16:25
sbezverkI removed it16:25
kfox1111thats great news. :)16:26
kfox1111one more nail in docker's cofin. :)16:26
kfox1111I think the seds in setup_kubernetes.sh can be done as kubeadm init flags instead?16:27
sbezverkkfox1111: good thing you asked, I removed it in centos but forgot for ubuntu16:27
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sbezverkfor ubuntu though I want to keep cgroup logic as ubuntu can use both systemd and the other cgroup driver..16:27
kfox1111sbezverk: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456964/8/tools/setup_kubernetes.sh I think does the trick.16:27
kfox1111ok.16:28
kfox1111the ps looks good in general.16:28
rwellumsbezverk: looks like the deployment guide will need to be updated too?16:28
sbezverkkfox1111: well, I guess it is kubeadm bug then16:29
kfox1111rwellum: yeah.16:29
sbezverkas it does not add this range into controller-manager manifest16:29
sbezverkrwellum: sorry, but yes16:29
kfox1111sbezverk: that flannel review did work last time I tried it, and I think the new canal's more like that flannel then it was before.16:30
kfox1111try adding the --pod-network-cidr flag to init and removing the seds. I think it will work.16:31
kfox1111meeting next. bbiab16:31
sbezverkkfox1111: oh you think it will add whatever we have --pod-network-cidr into the manifest? if it does, then for sure sed will need to go16:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix a grammar issue  https://review.openstack.org/46173116:38
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152716:39
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openstackgerritAndrey Arapov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Set --ipc option to "host" for nova_compute  https://review.openstack.org/46030816:40
sdakemore pathfinder chaos :(16:40
inc0why do we need pathfinder any more?16:40
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inc0since kolla-ansible shouldn't be a dependency...16:40
sdakesbezverk there is no reason to apologize for us having to maintain our documentation :)16:41
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sdakeinc0 you can see more detail here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459228/416:41
sbezverksdake: the required change was triggered by no action on our side.. so it is unplanned doc maitenance16:42
sdakesbezverk its all good - we were the ones dumb enough to document another upstream ;)16:43
sdakein this case it is warranted16:43
inc0ok, I repeat, why do we even need it any more?16:44
inc0can't see answer for this in patchset16:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Remove the checking in neutron tasks  https://review.openstack.org/45699216:45
inc0instead of fixing pathfinder, can we get rid of it?16:46
openstackgerritAndrey Arapov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Set --ipc option to "host" for nova_compute  https://review.openstack.org/46030816:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix Kibana checking free port interface  https://review.openstack.org/45865516:47
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sbezverkinc0: I think there are few pieces left before we can completely decomission it. I know sdake wants to run his most prefered linux command rm -rf ;) but not yet..16:50
sdakesbezverk yup we need to make sure we don't break things with rm -r :)16:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove all Ubuntu 14.04 related documentation  https://review.openstack.org/45366816:50
rwellumsdake: sbezverk once the ps is finalized I'll give the changes a whirl and update the doc.16:50
inc0sbezverk: can we list out these pieces pleasE?16:50
sbezverkinc0: one of them is creating configmaps, I think it is the biggest16:51
sdakeinc0 anything that is in the deployment guide as a command that doesn't use ansible needs to go16:51
sbezverkthere might be few minor ones, but I do not recall atm16:51
sdakethe secret creation is the current problem I think with removing kollakube16:52
sdakewhich is super easy to do in shell or ansible16:52
inc0but creationg configmaps should care about /etc/kolla not path of kolla-ansible right?16:52
sbezverkinc0: right16:52
sdakeinc0 you are correct - configmaps are not necessary to be sorted to remove the dep16:52
sdakeinc0 anything that uses kollakbue in the deployment guide - needs to not use kollakube16:52
sdake(and by corrolary the gates)16:53
openstackgerritAndrey Arapov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Set --ipc option to "host" for nova_compute  https://review.openstack.org/46030816:53
sdakeatm I think that is just secret generation16:53
inc0ok,I'm asking about removal of pathfinder rather than kollakube right away16:53
sbezverksdake: kollakube which we use now to create configmaps is depended on pathfider16:53
sdakesbezverk good point thanks16:53
sdakekollakbue res create configmap16:53
sdakeand res create secret16:53
sdakeneed to remove those two operations16:53
inc0https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447733/ <-16:53
inc0should I restart this effort?16:54
inc0it's easy, just need kfox1111 to say that he doesn't hate it16:54
sdakeinc0 yes that effort needs to be done soon :)16:54
sdakeinc0 personallly i'd roll that into ansible playbooks like configmaps are done today16:54
sbezverkinc0: we already have native way to create configmaps, no need to use ansible here16:55
inc0ok, secrets then?16:55
inc0I mean16:55
inc0you're saying kollakube is needed for that16:55
inc0and then you're saying we have good way16:55
inc0and kollakube is not a good way16:55
inc0I'm lost16:56
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sbezverkinc0: kfox1111 has ps which generates config map using kubectl16:56
sbezverkvery simple and straight forward16:56
sdakeyup - the kubectl commands wfm16:56
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inc0secrets is slightly bigger issue I guess16:57
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sbezverk inc0: it is just using ansible for something like this is overkill if it can be done using native tools16:57
sdakesbezverk inc0 my take is we can sort out how to do with native tools, if we want to ansible that later for say - a WORKFLOW we can do that :)16:57
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inc0depends, with ansible we could generate config files and put them into k8s in single command16:58
sbezverkinc0: can easily be done the same way as configmap16:58
sbezverkinc0: it is just people focusing on other things16:58
inc0ok, I'll focus on that just after summit16:59
inc0if you guys won't be done yet16:59
inc0by then*16:59
sbezverkinc0: if you could use the same approach kfox1111 took for configmaps I think it would be great and consistent16:59
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sdakeinc0 agree with sbezverk on using kfox111's approach - agree with you that that can probably be wrapped in an ansible workflow pretty easily (and should also be done after the first step is done)17:05
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inc0well, whatever we want to use, let's use it;)17:05
sdakeinc0 native commands first following kfox's review model17:07
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sdakeinc0 i am fairly positive at this point we need several workflow containers to execute the deploy/reconfig/upgrade workflow17:08
sdakewe can jam ansible in those workflow containers - then operators can just run the workflow - like magic they have a working deployment17:09
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inc0yeah, I think using ansible for that is actually reasonable17:09
sdakeyup its a really good choice17:09
sbezverksdake: inc0: but there should be a choice. if something can be done without ansible, which in reality is NOT required, it should be done natively with tools that comes with kubernetes17:11
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sdakesbezverk agreed - that is why both are an option17:11
sdakesbezverk ansible just cleans the logic up a ittle - it is not strictly required17:12
inc0sbezverk: if ansible is inside container, it's essentially an operator17:12
sdakeand it goes in a container - doesn't run on the host17:12
inc0and operator are good17:12
inc0opestators17:12
* sdake finally achieves victory on operators :)17:12
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sdakei knew those would come in handy :)17:12
inc0well17:13
inc0it's ansible in container in this model17:13
inc0think kolla-toolbox17:13
inc0we did operators before they were cool;)17:13
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sdakeyup - i had envisioned a bunch of go or python code17:13
sdakealthough i think strictly speakign that is not required for a controller model17:13
sdakewhich is more of what  we doing17:13
inc0that was part I didn't agree with17:13
sdakeyup17:13
sdakeif we really want an operator, the proper approach would be something that launches these containers on access from a third party resource17:14
inc0I refuse to make "ansible" a dirty word17:14
sdakewhat you really proposed inc0 (and jascott1 as well) is a controller container17:14
sdakei htink if we need to get to operators, we can do so, although controllers are a necessity in my mind17:15
inc0what's a cotnroller container and how it differs from operator?17:15
inc0as in third party resource?17:16
sdakean operator contains a go or python controller which reads from a third party resource17:16
sdakethe operator is essnetially connecting the different operations with the different workflows17:17
sdakewe don't really need that to begin17:17
inc0can operator be written in ansibe?17:17
sdakeinc0 a controller (container) is essentially what we have proposed here, the usage of ansible inside a  container17:17
inc0I mean, third party resource will run a container and call a command inside17:18
inc0command can be python do-stuff.py or ansible-playbook do-stuff.yaml17:18
sdakeright - although that feels a little bit overkill at this point17:18
inc0I strongly distagree17:19
sdakei think just a simple set of controller containers for the various workflows would be an enormous step17:19
inc0ansible has all stuff for "waiting for" and idempotency built in17:19
inc0I don't want to reimplement that17:19
sdakeinc0 right - workflows in ansible in controller containers17:19
sdakei dont think its wise to reimplement all that ansible logic17:19
inc0ok, why operators *can't* be written with ansible?17:19
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152717:20
sdakeoperators need to be event driven17:20
sdakeso there is some need for running a daemon - which ansible doesn't do17:20
inc0event calls workflow17:20
sdakeright17:20
inc0workflow is written in ansible17:20
sdakeagreed17:20
inc0that's it17:20
sdakesounds like we are in violent agreement :)17:20
inc0event can call a job in k8s17:20
sbezverkkfox1111: hopefully it is final version.. https://review.openstack.org/46152717:20
inc0and job can run ansible play17:20
sean-k-mooneysdake: isnt that the best kind of agreement lol17:20
sdakesean-k-mooney pretty much :)17:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Add ssh-keyscan to unblock kolla gate  https://review.openstack.org/46078317:21
sdakeinc0 the main reason operators can't entirely be written in ansible is something has to read the third party resource for updates to trigger the ansible workflows17:21
inc0and job that understands idempotency is a good job17:21
sbezverkinc0: as long as there are people who write operator in ansible and use it after, then great ;)17:21
inc0sbezverk: we already have things like upgrades doen with kolla-ansible17:22
sean-k-mooneyinc0: would you like to see reusabilty of the current kolla-ansibel roles in a k8s operator contexted. eg. the mariadb recovery playbook17:23
sdakesean-k-mooney the kolla-kubernetes microchart architecture is adelta from kolla-ansible - i'm not sure it is directly usable for this task17:24
sdakealhtough all of the knowledge that went into that work IS17:24
sean-k-mooneysdake: ya that makes sense. at some point it may be posible to converge some of the logic but they dont need to start our or nessisarily endup that way17:25
sean-k-mooneyif ansible was used for such things it would be nice if it could be reused though17:25
sdakesean-k-mooney tend to agree - although I think it would be super disruptive to kolla-ansible and would vioalte our "eject kolla-ansible as a dependency" model wea re going after - i"m not keen to break kolla-ansible in the name of making kolla-kubernetes work personally.  others may feel differently17:26
inc0yup17:26
inc0sdake: copy of code to containert is not a dependency17:27
sdakelets figure out how to make it work without integration - if we really have a strong desire to intgrate the two later, we can :)17:27
inc0sdake: when I'm saying ansible I'm not saying kolla-ansible17:28
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inc0I'm saying ansible itself is great thing to run workflows17:28
sdakeinc0 oh i see misunderstaindg on my part17:28
sdakeinc0 TOTALLY AGREE - LETS DO IT!17:28
inc0much better than pure python17:28
inc0whatever we can use from kolla ansible, we can use it17:29
sdakethe initial operator discussion was a bit premature - i think many people (myself included) didn't understand how the system works17:29
inc0(copy code and modify it to k8s needs)17:29
sdakei think what jascott has is a good first start17:29
inc0well we need upgrades for 1.017:29
inc0poc, but that's part of our roadmap17:29
sdakeupgrades are trivial with this model17:29
inc0that will need workflow17:29
inc0nop17:29
inc0e17:29
inc0they're never trivial17:29
inc0they'll be possible with this model17:30
sdakeright - possible might be the correct word :)17:30
inc0they're not possible without workflow mechanism17:30
sdakewe do need to design upgrade in on the frontend17:31
sdakeinc0 i don't know if you recall 1.0.0 - howeve rit lacked an upgrade mechanism so we deleted the tag17:31
sdakein essence, 1.0.0 was doa (not for the upgrades, but because of a data loss problem)17:31
inc0that was due to docker ansible issue17:31
inc0nothing to do with kolla-k8s today17:32
sdakethere were a whole bunch of reasons17:32
sdakeright nothing to do with kolla-kubernetes17:32
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inc0https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-pike-ptg-k8s-release-roadmap for kk8s 1.0 we agreed that we want poc upgrades17:32
inc0and security upgrades non-poc17:32
sdakeinc0 i'd prefer real upgrades17:33
inc0we don't need real upgrades in 1.017:33
sdakea path forward from 1.0.0 to 2.0.017:33
inc0we need them in 1->217:33
sdakeright - which means we need to be setup to deal ith that17:33
sdakewhich I think your proposal perfectly addresses17:33
inc0right, which means for 1.0 we need to make sure we don't breka it17:33
inc0hence poc17:33
inc0but real thing is 2.017:33
sbezverkinc0: we just need people who will actually do it :)17:35
sdakesbezverk jascott1 is working on it now17:35
inc0that's always an issue17:35
inc0I expect to have new contributors after summit17:35
sdakeonce his patch merges, i can sort out the container bits - or someone else can :)17:35
sbezverkinc0: right, people prefer more push theories than implement them ;)17:35
inc0I rescheduled our onboarding session17:35
inc0so it won't conflict with your talk17:35
inc0hey! I implement my theories!@17:36
sean-k-mooneyinc0: is that on the presentation track (onnoarding)17:36
inc0yeah17:36
inc0should be17:36
inc0or rather17:36
inc0there is special project onboarding trach I think17:37
sean-k-mooneycool i wont be there at teh summit but i will catch it on youtube17:37
inc0https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18704/kolla-project-onboarding?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fboston-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Dkolla%23eventid%3D1870417:37
inc0I don't think this will be recorded:(17:38
sean-k-mooneyah ok that is why i was asking if its on the presentation track17:38
sean-k-mooneyif its part of the froum rater than the presentation track its likely not recored17:39
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sdakebyebye cimc2.0 hello cimc 3.0.3a :)17:47
sdake4 hours later for 3 nodes :(17:47
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152717:56
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla stable/ocata: Add ssh-keyscan to unblock kolla gate  https://review.openstack.org/46186217:59
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152718:16
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inc0kolla-ansible is 5th most reviewed project in OpenStack in Pike release18:30
inc0if we combine all kolla deliverables, we'd land at 2nd position18:31
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inc0I'd say that's pretty fucking awesome:) pardon my language18:33
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152718:34
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openstackgerritAndrey Arapov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Set --ipc option to "host" for nova_compute  https://review.openstack.org/46030819:08
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152720:05
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Fix for new canal.yaml location  https://review.openstack.org/46152720:20
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openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Configure Kibana default index pattern  https://review.openstack.org/45815620:30
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sbezverkkolla-kubernetes gte fix, all green now: https://review.openstack.org/46152720:59
sbezverkgate fix I meant, please ack..21:00
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apuimedoDoes somebody have a minimalistic kolla-ansible inventory (just heat, neutron, keystone, glance, nova, horizon and so on)21:17
apuimedo?21:17
apuimedoIt's hard to tell all that I should disable :P21:18
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apuimedooh... I was looking straight at the inventory, when globals.yml seems to be enough21:30
egonzalezapuimedo inventory  or  globals.yml?21:30
apuimedoegonzalez: I'm looking at your blog21:30
apuimedoand now going only off globals :P21:30
egonzalezapuimedo this  is  one minimal example http://paste.openstack.org/show/608633/21:32
apuimedothanks egonzalez !21:32
apuimedoegonzalez: do you know what happens if I only have on interface, i.e., no eth121:32
apuimedo?21:32
egonzalezignore pluging_agent which is for testing21:32
apuimedook, thanks21:32
egonzalezhrm, can create sub interfaces, but external_neutron_interface cannot be the same  as  network_interface because is  managed  by ovs21:33
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apuimedook21:35
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sdakeapuimedo everything comes disabled21:50
sdakeapuimedo except a few key services (compute kit mostly)21:50
apuimedocool21:50
apuimedowell... I just realized that the machine I wanted to put this on can't host it at the moment21:51
apuimedobecause it runs arch linux21:51
apuimedoXD21:51
apuimedoI should have more normal distros on the dev environments21:51
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Reepicheepapuimedo: what .. arch is not normal ..  My desktop I'm using right now is arch based :|22:27
Reepicheepnow.. I guess most of the servers I manage are CentOS .. so maybe22:28
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Fix Telegraf role reconfigure action  https://review.openstack.org/45084623:59

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