Saturday, 2017-02-04

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jemcevoyinc0 are you there?00:04
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inc0jemcevoy, now I am00:13
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jemcevoyinc0, Are you attending the kube road show next Tuesday at 2pm to 5pm00:18
inc0yeah00:19
inc0see you there I assume?:)00:19
jemcevoyIt is a ten minute walk from my place if you wanna park here...00:19
inc0good to know:)00:20
inc0we'll probably carpool with jascott100:21
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inc0jascott1, can we use your car? we won't fit into my...00:21
jascott1no convertible ride? :)00:21
jascott1ya np, i might even clean it00:21
jemcevoyI would need your license plate number to get a parking permit00:21
inc0no, unless you and qwang decide who runs in trunk00:21
sbezverkkfox1111: ping00:21
inc0and this is not a overly large trunk00:22
kfox1111sbezverk: hey. whats up?00:22
jascott1jemcevoy i sent you PM thanks00:22
sbezverkkfox1111: I am seeing one error and so far I failed to undersatnd where it is coming from: check this log: http://logs.openstack.org/50/428150/14/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-2-helm-entrypoint-nv/60565a6/console.html#_2017-02-03_23_33_17_59153000:23
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qwanginc0: I can't fit into a trunk ;(00:23
inc0yeah, I figured...neither can jascott100:24
sbezverkkfox1111: it says that rabbitmq service already exist, but it is not at least not in kolla namespace.00:24
jascott1inc0 there is another trunk option :)00:24
jascott1ive already driven it :)00:25
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815000:25
kfox1111sbezverk: http://logs.openstack.org/50/428150/14/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-2-helm-entrypoint-nv/60565a6/logs/svc/kolla-rabbitmq.txt00:25
kfox1111seems to exist00:25
inc0jascott1, we could hook this one https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/strollers/multisport-trailers/thule-chariot-cougar-1-_-1010053400:25
inc0that would make everyone riding in convertiblew00:25
qwanginc0: jascott1 can we take max00:26
jascott1<12 hours later>00:26
inc0nah, I'm just kidding00:26
sbezverkkfox1111: but if you check the log above get svc -n kolla return no object found00:27
inc0we'll carpool00:27
inc0just...not with my car;)00:27
jascott1gotta get ready for musical festivities.. everyone have a great weekend00:27
inc0have fun man00:27
jascott1all are welcome!00:28
inc0I have my own musical festivities planned for today;)00:29
kfox1111looking....00:32
kfox1111sbezverk: thats kind of weird, yeah....00:33
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kfox1111sbezverk: kind of at a loss.00:38
kfox1111helm bug maybe?00:38
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kfox1111jascott1: could you look at sbezverk's issue?00:40
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kfox1111it looks like no services exist, then maybe get created as part of the release but then its failing to release.00:41
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sbezverkkfox1111: more complex things are getting, more issues we see :(00:47
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kfox1111sbezverk: not unexpected from  pretty new system. :/00:53
kfox1111the whole single package thing was just an idea to see how far we could push helm. not sure it was going to work.00:54
kfox1111would be pretty neat if it worked, but not sure how useful it would be to normal users anyway.00:54
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kfox1111but interesting to give to them anyway so they can fix it.00:55
kfox1111they will see things like that eventually from other apps then just openstack too.00:55
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kfox1111sbezverk:00:57
kfox1111oh, just a thought...00:57
kfox1111this may be a different issue though.00:57
bmace_sdake: kfox1111: fyi, got almost all the openstack services running (at least the pods show as running) in the new dev setup container.  had to step through some of the wait areas manually but looking great for early next week for a review.  looks to be just a new docker file and a couple of new scripts in tools.00:57
kfox1111sbezverk: so, in the code, your creating a full blown openstack, then deleting it , then adding a new one. there still is a chance the workflow itself is messing with things.00:57
kfox1111sbezverk: relooking at the code, it looks like delete is async. if thats true, then the wait_for_pod_termination kicks in, but there isn't a wait_for_svc_termination?00:58
sbezverkkfox1111: actually I found a broblem :(00:58
kfox1111bmace_: cool. :)00:58
sbezverkI run helm with dry-run and it looks so wierd00:58
bmace_sbezverk: you hitting that in helm?  because i hit that a couple of times, or similar, when i did a delete without --purge.. doesn't show up in list but can't create a new one.00:59
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sbezverkbmace_: no it is not that00:59
sbezverkkfox1111: check the latest entry point job logm by some reason multiple copies of rabbitmq svc gets rendered01:00
kfox1111k. sec01:00
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kfox1111sbezverk: I see two rabbit svc's, but only due to there being a rabbit-svc and rabbit-mgmt svc.01:07
kfox1111that svc chart's a little weird.01:07
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bmace_kfox1111: is there something that horizon waits on before it gets an external kubernetes ip?  my horizon pod seems to be running ok.  don't see any errors in it, but i don't get any external-ip for it in the kubectl get services output.. all the other api pods look to have appropriate external ips01:08
kfox1111might have to configure it to export it.01:08
kfox1111yeah, looks like port_external is defaulting to false on it.01:09
sbezverkkfox1111: check this out http://paste.openstack.org/show/597657/01:10
sbezverkI think it is element name issue :-)01:10
sbezverkby some reason mariadb uses rabbitmq name01:10
kfox1111oh....01:10
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bmace_kfox1111: kk, was following the flow in ceph_workflow_service.sh and figured horizon would be exposed since i know you were recently adding horizon health tests into the gate.01:11
kfox1111this is a case where the values in the global tree might be overlapping.01:11
kfox1111we never see it in service deployments, but when all combined at the same time, they conflict.01:11
kfox1111bmace_: yeah, we may want to change that default.01:11
kfox1111but for now, looks like its internal only.01:12
kfox1111by default.01:12
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sbezverkkfox1111: I have computed values will have to find conflicting entries01:12
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add release note regarding nova upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/42913801:12
kfox1111sbezverk: ah, yea,h, its element name related...01:12
kfox1111putting element_name all the way at the top makes sence for service packages, but not a compute kit.01:13
kfox1111sbezverk: I think, in the values.yaml for the compute kit, we just neeed to set the element_name: mariadb down a bit further01:13
kfox1111global.kolla.mariadb.all: element_name: mariadb01:13
kfox1111for rabbit, mariadb, and memcached.01:14
sbezverkkfox1111: Yep, I think so01:15
sbezverkI will edit values.yaml and add these values01:16
kfox1111cool.01:17
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815001:20
sbezverkkfox1111: let's see if it helps. I bet sdake will love this chart ;) whole opensatck with one shot01:21
sdakesbezverk it is actually inc0 that will love that chart01:21
sdake;-)01:21
kfox1111sbezverk: +101:22
kfox1111sbezverk: plus one more idea.01:22
kfox1111I'd like to see genconfig ran on the dev env, imported into the k8s,01:22
kfox1111then pull the configmaps back out and dumped into helm/tests/devenv-configmaps/templates/*01:23
sbezverkkfox111: I hope you do not mean to run ansible genconfig01:23
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kfox1111we could then for the dev env, just load up the devenv-configmaps package, and the compute-kit package, and should be most of the way there. :)01:23
kfox1111we can then discuss how to make those cnfnigmaps more templated/split up at the ptg?01:24
kfox1111it would only work for the dev env, but would be a good way to kickstart the dev env?01:24
sbezverkkfox1111: sure, it is long discussion for sure01:24
kfox1111bmace_: what do you think of that idea?01:25
inc0helm install kolla/openstack?:)01:26
* inc0 approves01:26
kfox1111inc0: yeah.01:27
kfox1111all of compute kit at a shot. :)01:27
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sbezverkinc0: helm install helm/compute-kits/compute-kit-0.4.0 --namespace kolla01:28
inc0all the product manager types would love that - and that drives adoption01:28
kfox1111inc0: not sure how useful it is for prod.01:28
inc0kfox1111, kolla-ansible deploy is pretty damn useful;)01:28
kfox1111as upgrading will be really oneshot/not much opertunity for upgrade orchestration.01:28
kfox1111but for testing, pretty sweet.01:28
sbezverkkfox1111: I think for aio type of installation or lab, it will be super01:28
inc0but yeah, in simple scenerio, not that much01:29
kfox1111+101:29
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kfox1111inc0: agreed kolla-ansible deploy is pretty sweet. but not sure helm yet can do that in one shot with its orchestration primitives.01:29
inc0if we can get to same level of simplicity as kolla-ansible01:29
inc0we win01:29
kfox1111totally agree. but thats asking a lot of helm.01:30
inc0maybe not today01:30
inc0but if we know what is missing01:30
kfox1111+101:30
inc0we can always fill the gaps01:30
inc0it's opensource01:30
kfox1111so, playing with prometheus a bit. very interesting.01:31
inc0here's the deal, we need something that can be demoed to not-so-technical project managers too;)01:31
kfox1111totally agree.01:31
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inc0is it? one of things I wanted to add to kolla-ansible next release is monitoring done right01:31
kfox1111they seem to have dynamic monitoring down in a way that makes sence.01:32
kfox1111I really liked ansible for its support for plugable dynamic inventory.01:32
inc0I had some discussion about prometheus today with snap author01:32
kfox1111nagios' and friends have been a huge pain due to its static inventory assumptions.01:32
kfox1111but they have a dynamic inventory plugin for k8s. :)01:33
kfox1111so it can discover services/pods.01:33
inc0but it won't really do host-level monitoring01:33
kfox1111it can do that too.01:33
inc0we'll see anyway01:33
kfox1111a daemonset with the host level monitoring svc,01:33
inc0I want to have kickass diagnostic in kolla really01:34
kfox1111and maybe the dynamic service can pull from kube node list.01:34
kfox1111+101:34
inc0we did good job with log mgmt01:34
kfox1111kubernetes makes having monitoring much more important.01:34
inc0add monitoring01:34
Pavohave you guys seen ansible -containers?01:34
kfox1111for logs and for checks.01:35
inc0Pavo, what do you mean?01:35
kfox1111Pavo: yeah. :/01:35
Pavothe project ansible containers01:35
Pavoit seems pretty sweet01:35
kfox1111inc: ansible wants to do container orchestration themselves. :/01:36
inc0ahh...yet another docker swarm?01:36
Pavokind of01:36
inc0eh.01:36
kfox1111yeah. :/01:37
inc0if you ask me, that's footshot01:37
inc0they'd do better if they'd provide kick ass modules for k8s01:37
Pavoit kind of does the same thing as kolla-build but instead of building using Dokcerfile or bash scripts inside the container it uses ansible playbooks to configure the container01:37
inc0and try to provide alternative to helm this way01:37
inc0ahh so it's container management and building?01:38
inc0duh01:38
inc0anyway, I gtg01:38
inc0talk to you guys next week01:38
kfox1111it does that too.01:38
Pavoseeya01:38
sdakekfox1111 your client is busted yet again01:38
inc0I'll read about it a bit:) thansk Pavo for pointing that01:38
kfox1111its both a build thing, but an orchestration too.01:38
inc0duh01:38
kfox1111sdake: your vpn's busted again. :)01:38
Pavoyeah01:38
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sdakekfox1111 its continously busted01:39
sbezverksdake: vpn for last couple of days really sucked01:40
sdakesbezverk ya - i dunno what the prolem is - anyconnect is a pile of steam01:40
sdakeand the cvo is too slow01:41
sdakecan't win - i have to pick the less damned solution which at the moemnt is anyconnect01:41
sbezverksdake: yeah they rate limit traffic :(01:41
sdakesbezverk i got the rate limiting turned off01:41
sdakethe hardware however is slow01:42
bmace_kfox1111: i think we chatted about the static configs the other day.  i don't have a big problem with them if you think they are super useful.. but for dev i think it is also useful to generate them dynamically from the active repos, so right now you can tweak things, spin back up the dev container and see them reflected in your environment.01:42
sdakebmace_ i think static configs would be a good place to start prior to ptg01:42
sdakebmace_ any chance you can make that happen01:42
sdakeI'll maek the docs happen in return ;)01:43
bmace_kfox1111: right now it makes an assumption that you have kolla-kubernetes, kolla-ansible and halcyon-vagrant-kubernetes checked out into ~devel/ and so it is pretty easy to test changes in any of those repos against a full bring up.01:43
sdaketo get us off of ansible entirely or kolla-kubernetes01:43
bmace_sdake: i just need to work on some of the wait logic and add some variables into the ceph_service_workflow.sh script and should be good to put my wip review up on monday or tuesday.  part of it is a genconfig.01:44
bmace_i do have a small tweak to genconfig in my environment because the head of kolla-ansible has a broken genconfig if you do it in an environment other than where you are running thanks to the fluentd changes.01:45
rhalliseybusy Firday night01:45
sdakebmace_ guesss we need toget that fixed01:45
bmace_so i had to i think comment out one of the lines related to fluentd to get genconfig to run clean01:45
sdakerhallisey agreed - i'm gettting ready to ptfo :)01:45
jemcevoyg'night01:45
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bmace_sdake: yup.  i planned to file a bug on it once i had my wip review up.01:46
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815001:48
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openstackgerritqiankun.zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enable tacker_horizon when enable_tacker is yes  https://review.openstack.org/40782201:54
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kfox1111bmace_: I submitted a fix for the fluentd thing in trunk yesterday? it merged?02:10
kfox1111should be better now.02:10
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sdakekfox1111 com-puter died of power failure02:17
kfox1111bummer02:19
bmace_kfox1111: ah, that is great to hear.   i haven't updated my kolla-ansible bits since then.02:20
kfox1111yeah. trunk was pinned back to avoid bugs like that.02:20
kfox1111but I removed the pin to test what the final release of kolla-ansible would do.02:20
kfox1111hit 2 tiny bugs.02:20
kfox1111so fixed them. :)02:20
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sdakeis qwang about?03:11
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openstackgerritZeyu Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update the CONTRIBUTING.rst file  https://review.openstack.org/42917604:05
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qwangsdake: what's up?04:13
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [wip] test scenario2 in gate  https://review.openstack.org/41227905:01
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix murano issue in horizon container  https://review.openstack.org/42918305:11
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [wip] test scenario2 in gate  https://review.openstack.org/41227905:13
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815005:15
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Loading nfs_shares file without .j2 extension in cinder config  https://review.openstack.org/41183705:16
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fluentd should not chown all files in /var/log/kolla  https://review.openstack.org/42725305:16
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Optimize reconfigure action for trove  https://review.openstack.org/42399005:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Create a new container when restart a container when necessary  https://review.openstack.org/42703606:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Apply new register method  https://review.openstack.org/42871706:16
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [wip] test scenario2 in gate  https://review.openstack.org/41227906:22
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Optimize reconfigure action for congress  https://review.openstack.org/42269006:44
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove unnecessary until in register.yml file  https://review.openstack.org/42871906:45
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix trove dashboard issue in horizon container  https://review.openstack.org/42918307:27
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix parameter issue in cinder handlers  https://review.openstack.org/42726807:39
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [wip] test scenario2 in gate  https://review.openstack.org/41227907:43
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix parameter issue in cinder handlers  https://review.openstack.org/42726807:50
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Optimize reconfigure action for congress  https://review.openstack.org/42269007:50
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix parameter issue in cinder handlers  https://review.openstack.org/42726807:58
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sdakeqwang evening still around?08:03
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Optimize reconfiguration for kibana  https://review.openstack.org/42315808:27
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Install osprofiler in magnum base container  https://review.openstack.org/42920508:27
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix trove dashboard issue in horizon container  https://review.openstack.org/42918309:01
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [wip] test scenario2 in gate  https://review.openstack.org/41227909:06
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix the policy file path in horizon container  https://review.openstack.org/42924209:39
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Mech422Hey guys - anyone had problems with keystone/ldap on newton?  keystone is only trying to hit the ldap server like 1 out of every 4-8 queries - the rest just return no data10:49
Mech422hmm - looks like it might be an haproxy issue10:58
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sdakesbezverk you around13:31
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sdakekfox1111 are you around13:36
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815013:50
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815014:03
sbezverksdake: hi, what is up?14:03
sdakesbezverk morning - if you ahve a moment to speak via irc about the mappings that need to be done via haproxy or some external load balancer i'd like to get back into that discussion14:04
sdakethe next thing i want to tackle is multi-node tagged controllers and computes14:05
sbezverksdake: sorry not good timing, I will leave in a short bit.. best I can suggest maybe tonight14:05
sdakeok - sounds good  -i'll be arond im sure14:06
sdakedefine tonight in et :)14:06
sdakeplz14:06
sdakesbezverk really waht i am after is how to get from 1 compute to many comoputes14:06
sdakein my home lab14:06
sdakeI have ISCSI luns available to me, so that is an option (via my synology nas)14:07
sbezverksdake: 6-8pm est but not for sure..14:07
sdakeok - sounds good14:07
sdakecan you think about how i would use that synology nas insted of setting up an external ceph cluster14:07
sdakeone way to think of synology nas is it is a linux box making iscsi luns available14:08
sdakesince thatis what it does14:08
sdakei'm keen to get more then 1 copmute node and 1 master14:09
sdakei'd like 1 controller 2 computes + pvs backed via iscsi NAS14:09
sbezverksdake: let me know when you get it working, would be interested to see14:10
sdakewell I need your help :)14:11
sdakethats what i wanted to chat about14:11
sbezverkI think it is not doable, but who knows14:11
sdakei see14:11
sdakehow about nfs?14:11
sdake(synology also has nfs support)14:11
sdakethe storage drivers for kubernetes have a variety of storage types14:12
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sdakewhat i have a deire to avoid is setting up a ceph cluster on 3 nodes and then setting up a kubernetes cluster no 3 nodes14:12
sdakesince I only have 3 nodes of hardware in my home lab14:12
ferrarixx599docker IRC channel asking for password? How to register?14:13
ferrarixx599my kolla installation having problems with docker14:13
sdakeferrarixx599 which version of docker-engine are you using14:13
sdakeferrarixx599 i think 13.0 is broken14:14
ferrarixx599latest. 1.13.014:14
sdakei think you can get 1.12.6 working14:14
ferrarixx599you mean 1.13 doesn't work with kolla ?14:14
sdakei mean 1.13.0 is broken14:14
sdakeas in DOA14:14
sdakehowever it could be that 1.13.0 works for many people and just not kolla14:15
ferrarixx599the specs given version (in kolla mitaka release) >= 1.10.014:15
sdakeferrarixx599 yup, we need a 1= 1.13.0 in there14:15
sdakeI believe its fixed in 1.13.1-rc1+14:15
ferrarixx599oh okay.14:15
ferrarixx599experimental right?14:15
sdakeferrarixx599 moment i'll submit a patch to fix the docs14:15
ferrarixx599cool!14:15
sdakeferrarixx599 tbh, I'd just use 1.10.latest z and be done with it14:15
sdakekolla doesn't use any newer features of docker14:16
sdake1.10.latest.z is gtg14:16
ferrarixx599thanks. how to docker irc btw?14:18
Pavoyou have to have a registered nick14:21
Pavoferrarixx599 type /nickserv register email password14:22
Pavothen after you verfiy your email type /nickserv identify username password14:23
ferrarixx599thank you! :)14:23
Pavonp14:23
Mech422sdake: if your just doing 'lab' stuff - why not just co-habit your ceph cluster with your nodes ?14:26
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Mech422sdake: especially if its SSD backed storage, its plenty fast enough for testing14:26
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update kolla-ansible docker-version  https://review.openstack.org/42927714:27
sdakeMech422 i coudl do that, i really dont want to run ceph alongside it though as its a pain in the ass to setup14:27
Mech422sdake: really? ceph is one of the less painful things for me to setup14:29
Mech422sdake: ceph-deploy has gotten pretty decent14:29
sdakeMech422 i dont want to learn how to adminster ceph outside kubernetes hwen i can click 1 button and have an iscsi lun14:29
Mech422sdake: ahh14:29
sdakei've got enough on my plate without spending weeks learning the ins and outs of ceph14:29
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sdakei think others will feel the same ;-)14:30
Mech422sdake: heh - well for lab/testing stuff, there's not really much to learn - basically 'Nuke' and 'Install' :-)14:30
sdakeidea is to get a dev env setup quickly without alot of hassle for devs to get work done14:30
Mech422yeah - I go the other way...I like to make my lab stuff as close to prod as I can (reasonably) achieve14:31
sdakei think prod could use nfs and iscsi14:31
sdakeor iscsi atleast14:31
Mech422it would also be cool to try the emc one...14:32
Mech422forget what its called now - supposed to be really fast14:32
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sdakeiscsi is iscsi14:39
sdakei we have an iscsi workflow14:39
sdakewhat I am unclear aabout is whether that iscsi workflow works multinode14:40
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815014:48
Mech422sdake: I know nothing about iscsi - I thought if you mounted it in the host os it just looked/acted like any other scsi drive as far as apps. were concerned ?14:49
sdakeMech422 no idea how it integrates with kubernetes14:50
sdakeMech422 that is the questoin for sbezverk14:50
Mech422sdake: yeah, thats what I meant - I thought the idea was it didn't need special handling - it 'just worked' like LVM or MDRaid ?14:51
Mech422anyway, be interesting to hear how it works out for ya - might be fun to play with at some point :-)14:53
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Optimize reconfiguration for kibana  https://review.openstack.org/42315815:16
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Jeffrey4lpbourke, around? abour https://review.openstack.org/428124 , the  centos binary failed due to the registry in tarballs.o.o site is not updated.   ubuntu + binary failed due to ubuntu cloud archive is using old code.15:32
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SamYapleJeffrey4l: ive said since the beginning, youre going to have a bad time using tarballs.o.o like that. it doesnt update as quickly as kolla gates would need all over the world16:12
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qwangsdake: sup16:49
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sbezverkkolla-kubernets: check out the following log, single helm chart deployed all these ;) http://logs.openstack.org/50/428150/21/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-2-helm-entrypoint-nv/600687a/console.html#_2017-02-04_15_14_05_71502517:37
sbezverkplease welcome compute-kit :)17:38
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kfox1111morning.18:18
kfox1111sbezverk: nice. :)18:19
kfox1111congrats. :)18:20
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sdakehey qwang18:24
sdakecan you link the submission your doing for the panel?18:24
kfox1111sdake: see sbezverk's compute kit package. :)18:26
sdakekfox1111 will check it out18:27
sdakekfox1111 quick q re iscsi as a storage backend for kubernetes18:27
kfox1111very cool. if we can get a devenv configmaps package too, it should be pretty easy. :)18:27
sdakekfox1111 is that a thing?18:27
kfox1111yeah. sbezverk implemnted an iscsi backend.18:27
sdakehe told me earlier this morning that wont work for multinode??18:28
kfox1111oh. wait. for k8s itself?18:28
sdakeyup18:28
kfox1111non starter.18:28
sdakemor edetail plz18:28
qwangsdake: I haven't submitted it yet. I need Justin to fill his speaker's bio18:28
sdakeqwang cool can you link the etherpad you have18:29
sdakeqwang i wanted to look it over18:29
kfox1111sdake: you'd need basically cinder to provision the iscsi volumes for you.18:29
qwanghttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-on-helm18:29
sdakekfox1111 i have a NAS with iscsi support in my home lab18:29
kfox1111but cinder doesn't support manual mounts as far as I know.18:29
qwangsdake: thank you for taking a look18:29
kfox1111sdake: thats a different issue, but still an issue.18:29
kfox1111so, there is no standard api for iscsi volume provisioning, except for cinder.18:30
kfox1111but we couldn't use cinder for this case. :/18:30
kfox1111you could manually provision iscsi volumes though, and import them into k8s.18:30
kfox1111kolla-kubernetes would be able to use them.18:30
sdakeqwang i made some adjustments18:33
sdakeqwang you can keep them or ditch em :)18:34
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sdakekfox1111 ok - so in my synology nas, I can create ISCSI volumes18:34
qwangsdake: thank you18:34
sdakekfox1111 would one iscsi volume be sufficient for all of kubernetes?18:35
sdakeor do I need a slew of them18:35
sdakekfox1111 i want to avoid setting up ceph on my dev machines - yet i wnt multinode capability18:35
kfox1111sdake: if you are using ceph too, you would need two pv's. if not, at least 3.18:35
sdakei don't plan to use ceph18:36
kfox1111so, 318:36
sdake3 iscsi volumes then?18:36
kfox1111yeah. so make 3 iscsi volumes via synology's api. then create 3 pv's in kubernetes pointing at the volumes.18:37
sdakesynology's api afaik is a GUI :)18:37
sdakewhat are the 3 pvs used for?18:37
kfox1111yeah. most iscsi appliences are.18:37
kfox1111so... pvs...18:38
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kfox1111iscsi woudl only support static pv's. how that works is the following:18:38
sdakekfox1111 - this is what i have - although an older model: https://www.amazon.com/Synology-Network-Attached-Storage-DS216play/dp/B015JQAWW0/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1486233489&sr=1-2&keywords=synology+nas18:38
kfox1111a k8s admin creates a pv by creating a document with a description of how to attach to a volume along with its size.18:38
sdakedocument/manifest?18:39
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kfox1111whenever a user wants a pv, the user creates a pvc which states how much space they need.18:39
kfox1111k8s then looks at all the defined/unused pv's, picks one, and binds it to the pvc.18:39
kfox1111the pvc can be mounted into any pod for that user.18:40
kfox1111so a pvc is kind of like a cinder volume in a tenant.18:40
kfox1111https://kubernetes.io/docs/user-guide/persistent-volumes/#types-of-persistent-volumes18:41
kfox1111look at the example under: "Persistent Volumes"18:41
kfox1111and you'd replace nfs with the iscsi information for a specific volume.18:41
kfox1111and make 3 of them.18:41
sdakei saw that, nfs might be easier18:42
kfox1111yes/no.18:43
sdakewhat do the 3 pvs represent in openstack?18:43
kfox1111nfs will probably cause problems with mariadb?18:43
kfox1111and I don't know if it will lock right.18:43
kfox1111might be worth a try just to see though.18:43
sdakeagreed18:44
kfox1111there are 3 stateful services. mariadb, rabbitmq, and glance-api.18:44
sdakewot about nova and cinder?18:44
kfox1111without ceph,18:44
kfox1111nova is always local storage,18:44
kfox1111and cinder is local storage too.18:45
sdakewoudlnt it make more sense for those to be on nfs/iscsi or whatever?18:45
kfox1111icsi can't be shared.18:45
sdakenfs can be18:45
kfox1111nfs doesn't scale very well without expensive hardware.18:46
kfox1111but for very small systems, might make sense.18:46
sdakeunderstood18:46
sdakenfs is also not HA18:46
kfox1111should be possible with afew tweaks to the templates.18:46
sdakewant to make the external storage as flexible as possible18:46
kfox1111never done an nfs deployment so not sure what it would take.18:46
sdakemy synology nas can also export nfs volumes ;-)18:46
kfox1111yeah. nfs is pretty darned easy. :)18:47
sdakesynology nas is just linux with a nice gui and a bunch of apps and whatnot built in18:47
kfox1111though if someone sold ceph appliences, it wuold be just as easy for that use case... :)18:47
kfox1111ah.18:47
sdakeinteresting point18:47
kfox1111yeah. one of my friends runs something similar.18:47
sdake*startup idea* :)18:48
kfox1111yup.18:48
sdakeok well i'll see if nfs works for those 3 services18:49
sdakeand go from there18:49
sdakeif nfs doesn't work for those 3, it surely wont be suitable for nova and cinder18:49
kfox1111well, actualy the opposite I think.18:49
kfox1111I think it will work well for nova/cinder, as openstack itself supports those use cases.18:49
kfox1111has for a while. we may just need a bit of template tweaks to enable nfs mount on nova-compute container.18:50
kfox1111backing a mariadb with nfs though, I'm not so sure.18:50
sdakeso what your suggesting is using iscsi for those 3 non-shared, and nfs for the 2 shared?18:50
kfox1111glance might work.18:50
kfox1111sdake: yeah, that might be easier.18:50
sdakei've got this cloud.yaml that sbezverk gave me, although i have no idea how it was generated18:51
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sdakewhat is the downside of using nfs for the 5 pvcs?18:53
kfox1111tools/build_example_yaml.py18:53
kfox1111gotta ensure they dont overlap,18:53
kfox1111and locking works.18:53
sdakeoverlap - how do you mean18:53
sdakenfs is supposed to b eposix compliant18:53
sdakewhether it is or not, remains to be seen :)18:53
kfox1111heh. nfs is not posix compliant.18:53
sdakeposix coplaince = fcntl() works18:54
kfox1111its darned near impossible for a network fs to be so. :)18:54
kfox1111fcntl sort of works simetimes perhaps. ;)18:54
kfox1111luster got posix support much closer then nfs, but still has a few gotchas. :/18:54
kfox1111posix is just way to local disk heavy in design.18:54
kfox1111anyway. I digress.18:54
kfox1111give each volume a different subdir in nfs.18:55
kfox1111at least.18:55
sdakeyes of course18:55
kfox1111don't want to accidently have one pod touching another pods data.18:55
kfox1111thats all I meant by nonoverlapping.18:55
sdakei see18:55
kfox1111so the root of one pv cant see data from another pv.18:55
sdakenfs is listed as readwritemany19:01
sdakeiscsi is only listed as readwriteonce19:01
sdakein the docs19:01
sdakeso nfs it is19:01
sdakehow do I get register the pv manifest with nfs setup in kubernetes?19:02
sdakeget//19:02
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sdakeassuming i can magically sort out how to create 3 nfs volumes for the PVCs required by kolla-kkubernetes, how do I tell kubernetes about them?19:03
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kfox1111readwritemany is not really desirable for this case tough.19:10
kfox1111cause if you get two mariadb's both trying to use the same pvc, your going to have a bad day.19:10
kfox1111readwriteonce should prevent 2 pods from ever trying to run in that config.19:11
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sdakehow does mariadb know to map a pv with readwriteonce to a pvc ?19:16
sdakei have magically created 3 nfs volumes :)19:16
sdakeratheer to the correct pvc19:17
sdakehmm i think you know what I'm after :)19:17
sdakehow doees the mariadb pvc know to map to a pv with readwriteonce19:17
kfox1111you make some pvc's and then theyh try and bind randomly to free pv's.19:18
sdakeso then how to make nova work with nfs?19:18
sdakesince it requires readwritemany?19:18
kfox1111for this use case, I don't think you want any pv's with readwritemany.19:18
kfox1111hmm...19:19
kfox1111that is a good question...19:19
sdakeyes - i'm good at asking those ;)19:19
kfox1111maybe a pvc would still work for that use case.19:19
kfox1111and in that case, you would want one with readwritemany...19:19
kfox1111we need to look at the pvc spec...19:19
sdakewhere is that located19:19
kfox1111ah.19:20
kfox1111you can specify the requerd readwritemany in the pvc too.19:20
kfox1111so it will exclude pv's that don't match.19:20
sdakenice19:20
sdakei'd expect that would be the caes19:20
kfox1111https://kubernetes.io/docs/user-guide/persistent-volumes/#persistentvolumeclaims19:20
sdakecase19:20
sdakewell i have tested thenfs mount19:24
sdakeit works from linux to my snology mount19:24
kfox1111k.19:24
kfox1111k8s just does kernel mounts, so should mostly work.19:24
sdakenow how to get the spec into kubernetes19:24
kfox1111though k8s lacks the ability to specify many nfs mount options. :/19:24
kfox1111need to create some pv yaml's.19:25
kfox1111then kubectl create -f foo.yaml19:25
sdakecool19:25
sdakeis there a pv yaml example hiding somewhere for the lazy :)19:25
kfox1111on that website19:25
sdakethanks i'll hunt i down19:25
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kfox1111sdake: know when the final openstack icons will be released?19:43
sdakeif you mean the mascots, ptg is the target for stickers and whatnot19:43
kfox1111yeah. ok. cool.19:43
kfox1111helm has a spot for icons in the charts.19:43
sdakealthough alot of teams are not happy with their mascotts i hear19:43
sdakekfox1111 hotness :)19:44
sdakeso it may be after the ptg19:44
sdakeour mascot kicks ass19:44
kfox1111part of the problem I think is they have been showing the projects the icons in isolation.19:44
kfox1111they may be better looking when shown all as a set.19:44
sdake"THESE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS THEY ARE YOUR COMPETITION"19:51
sdakeenders game such a fantastic movie19:52
sdakewhat is fascinating about that statement above is later they are all friends :)19:52
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sdakeportdirect_away when you are about struggling to get the devenv setup - runnign into the same error i had before I believe20:07
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kfox1111sdake: thought you had it working?20:29
kfox1111whats broke?20:29
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP: dump configmaps in the gate for testing.  https://review.openstack.org/42929220:55
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP: dump configmaps in the gate for testing.  https://review.openstack.org/42929221:07
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kfox1111bmace_: around?21:27
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sdakekfox1111 I had a real hardware model working - not virt21:53
sdakekfox1111 here is the describe herror:21:53
kfox1111ah ok.21:54
sdakehmm it looks like after i went to sleep for a while itcame up21:54
kfox1111heh. self healed. :)21:55
sdake[sdake@minime-03 halcyon-kubernetes]$ kubectl get pods21:55
sdakeNAME                                   READY     STATUS    RESTARTS   AGE21:55
sdake3b2da751-1d55-44e0-9317-f3294b2f31ad   1/1       Running   0          1h21:55
kfox1111do a --all-namespaces21:57
sdakeall running21:57
sdake(with weave)21:57
kfox1111nice.21:57
kfox1111and kolla running too, or just the base env?21:58
sdakejust bae end21:58
sdakei just woke u pdude :)21:58
kfox1111k21:58
sdakei am going to try that next21:58
kfox1111cool.21:58
sdakeonce i cna figure out how to get all the files I need for my docs changes21:58
sdakesuperbowl party tomorrow21:59
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815022:21
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sdake_kfox1111 my vpn is busted22:34
* sdake_ curses cisco22:35
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bmace_kfox1111: whats up?  I'm semi-around.22:39
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lakiHello23:01
sdake_hey laki23:01
sdake_what can I do for ya23:01
sdake_"Who green-lit the launch?"23:02
lakigot a question ... during "default" build of openstack ( 3.0.2 ) cinder was missed23:02
sdake_Apocolpyse is a pretty good movie too23:02
lakicurrently I'm progressing with building it23:02
lakihow should I later add it ? is there parameter kolla-ansible deploy cinder ?23:03
sdake_deploy is idempotent23:04
sdake_meaning you can just enable it in the config and be good to go23:04
sdake_bmace_ say i figured out what was wrong with my devenv - i just had to wait 20-30 minutes for vagrant up to get the boxes nito a working state23:05
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bmace_sdake_: the bringup can take a while, yeah.  glad you got it running :)23:06
sdake_this is the first free time i've had to do anything helpful since november23:06
lakiI don't get it ... it's already build - I don't see it in the docker ps --all list23:06
sdake_so making the most of my saturday :)23:06
sdake_laki did you enable it in globals.yml?23:07
bmace_if you want i can post the WIP i have at this point, but there are a lot of manual wait spots where you would need to look at the script and wait appropriately until i have the python code written to do the auto-wait.23:07
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sdake_laki cinder doesn't default to on23:07
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lakibut I don't want to build it from the beginning23:07
sdake_bmace_ works for me - i was going to put a review up for my version - just as long as we can separate it from the workflow in the gate i think we are good23:07
lakiI want to add just built cinder to already working23:07
lakiopenstack23:07
sdake_laki right - deploy will do the job23:08
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bmace_sdake_: currently i document in one of the scripts using the ceph_service_workflow.sh which will need a few tweaks to run in any env (moving some hard coded values to args and fixing the wait logic mostly)23:08
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lakiso I execute "docker-ansible deploy" and it won't mess the currently working openstack ?23:09
sdake_laki kolla-ansible deploy leaves existing stuff alone - hence its indepntent23:09
lakiclear23:09
bmace_sdake_: but other than that the ceph_service_workflow.sh works well.23:09
sdake_ok well whatever works - i am mostly after having people understand how the stuff works rather then spend 2 weeks decomposing the gat escripts which is a huge pita ;)23:09
bmace_sdake_: i'll toss up my review so you can take a look at it.. keep in mind it has a hardcoded proxy value in there right now for the oracle network.. easy enough to yank from the BUILD_ARGS but would be good to see what people think of the general approach23:10
sdake_bmace_ sounds good23:10
kfox1111sounds good to me too.23:10
openstackgerritBorneMace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP: Added support for containerized dev bringup  https://review.openstack.org/42929523:11
sdake_the devenv that portdirect_away and kfox1111 made was an interestng idea - although I found it extremly compelx in practice to use23:11
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bmace_sdake_: also, right now the container just does a wait forever loop when you start it up and you need to exec the script manually. this was mostly to make it easy for me to debug things.  the setup_dev_env.sh script will obviously be done by default at container run time.23:12
kfox1111bmace_: yeah. have had to do that alot myself.23:12
lakiif this will work - I will be more then impressed23:13
kfox1111in the prehelm cli, I even added a -d container_name flag to automatically replace the containers startup with a wait looop.23:13
sdake_laki i'll bet you 1 AUD :)23:13
kfox1111should try and get that feature into helm. :)23:13
kfox1111would be generally useful to all helm deployments.23:13
bmace_overall i like the flow of it more than the old dev env stuff we had up though.. less new files and seems a bit simpler.. Dockerfile is in tools instead of kolla-k8s base dir and it works against local code trees instead of checking stuff out on the fly23:13
kfox1111nice.23:14
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lakisdake_: dude23:21
lakirespect23:21
sdake_laki i am respectful23:22
laki;) thx23:23
openstackgerritBorneMace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for MariaDB  https://review.openstack.org/42929623:24
lakihmm23:26
lakiI don't see it in horizon23:26
lakibut answer is other in gui23:26
openstackgerritBorneMace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for MariaDB for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42929623:29
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openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for RabbitMQ for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42929723:34
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openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for memcached for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42929823:38
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lakithx - bye23:38
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openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for keepalived for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42929923:42
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openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Keystone for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42930023:45
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for resolv-conf for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42930123:47
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openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Openvswitch-db-server for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42930223:53
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Openvswitch-vswitchd for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42930323:53
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openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Cinder-api for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42930623:56
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Cinder-api-haproxy for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42930723:56
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Cinder-backup for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42930823:56
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Cinder-scheduler for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42930923:56
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Cinder-volume for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42931023:56
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Glance-api for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42931123:58
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Glance-api-haproxy for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42931223:58
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Glance-registry-haproxy for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42931323:58
openstackgerritBorne Mace proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Pre-Baked k8s Configmap for Glance-registry for devenv  https://review.openstack.org/42931423:58
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Adding compute-kit chart  https://review.openstack.org/42815023:59

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