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| sbezverk_ | sdake: ping | 00:14 |
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| sbezverk_ | inc0: ping | 00:53 |
| inc0 | here | 00:53 |
| sbezverk_ | inc0: if you could review this ps inc0 it is all green and kfox1111 already acked it | 00:54 |
| sbezverk_ | inc0 | 00:54 |
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| sbezverk_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427354/ | 00:54 |
| sbezverk_ | it is kind of closes blueprint then :) | 00:55 |
| jrich523 | Discovering versions from the identity service failed when creating the password plugin. Attempting to determine version from URL. | 00:55 |
| jrich523 | is there a better description of what that means? or rather, what is actually failing | 00:55 |
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| sbezverk_ | jrich523: I saw this error when my keystone endpoints were screwed up | 00:56 |
| jrich523 | hmm, ok i'll poke around at that | 00:56 |
| inc0 | jrich523, check your docker version | 00:59 |
| inc0 | if its 1.11, upgrading to 1.12 will help | 00:59 |
| inc0 | but don't upgrade to 1.13:P | 00:59 |
| sdake | inc0 are we hard pinned at 1.12? | 00:59 |
| sdake | 1.12.6 that is | 01:00 |
| jrich523 | i think this might be "client" related... | 01:00 |
| jrich523 | which makes it even stranger | 01:00 |
| inc0 | so my theory is (I was debugging it only today) | 01:01 |
| inc0 | that when we build container kolla-toolbox | 01:01 |
| inc0 | it installs docker-py | 01:01 |
| inc0 | and docker-py might have docker version issue | 01:01 |
| inc0 | quick fix - get docker 1.12 | 01:01 |
| inc0 | I'll make it more permanent, on my "omg kolla is on fire" list | 01:02 |
| jrich523 | lol | 01:03 |
| jrich523 | i hope you own a pair of these inc0 | 01:03 |
| jrich523 | https://cdnc.lystit.com/photos/7a3d-2015/09/21/love-moschino-black-flame-pattern-pants-product-1-220476275-normal.jpeg | 01:03 |
| inc0 | comes with ptl job | 01:03 |
| jrich523 | lol nice | 01:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: PS adds nova cleanup service https://review.openstack.org/427354 | 01:04 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: are these gate failures a problem or not: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427375/ ? | 01:11 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, I expect this to be issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1660761 | 01:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1660761 in kolla-ansible "VM stuck in scheduling" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Michał Jastrzębski (inc007) | 01:11 |
| inc0 | cells v2 landed I bet | 01:11 |
| kfox1111 | k. | 01:13 |
| kfox1111 | once that ps lands, we can unpin kolla-ansible to be trunk again. | 01:13 |
| sdake | is the services layer going to be completed prior to Thursday? | 01:28 |
| sdake | kfox1111 given that sbezverk_ said he has a services layer setup in his lab, i suspect so | 01:28 |
| sdake | kfox1111 any confirmation from anyone would be good - if so i'll start prepping for the live demo on thursday for both kolla-ansible and kolla-kubernetes for a local meetup | 01:29 |
| sdake | I have to apparently produce 2 hours of material :) | 01:29 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: this thursday? | 01:30 |
| sdake | roger | 01:30 |
| sdake | i need some time to get prepped | 01:30 |
| kfox1111 | and "ready"? | 01:30 |
| sdake | the meetup is 15th | 01:30 |
| kfox1111 | or... "completed"? | 01:30 |
| sdake | ready as in does compute kit work | 01:30 |
| kfox1111 | :) | 01:30 |
| sdake | i think our deadline for the ptg was arbitrarily set on the 15th anyway | 01:30 |
| sdake | would like to pip install to get teh bits for the meetup | 01:30 |
| sdake | I've more or less learned many of the commands for managing kolla-kubernetes | 01:31 |
| sdake | I already know how to operate kolla | 01:31 |
| sdake | rather kolla-ansible | 01:31 |
| sdake | my kolla-ansible demo will be 3 node HA | 01:32 |
| sdake | kolla-kubernetes will be 2-4 nodes | 01:32 |
| sdake | (on different hardware) | 01:32 |
| inc0 | ad ptg, totally arbitrary | 01:32 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, looks like you can deploy everything in compute kit with service packages, with one microservice for cinder-volume's. | 01:32 |
| inc0 | we have 2 day and a room | 01:32 |
| inc0 | that's it | 01:32 |
| inc0 | 2 days | 01:32 |
| sdake | inc0 i am talking about a meetup i have prior to the ptg | 01:32 |
| kfox1111 | and not dealing with configmaps, as thats still pending. | 01:32 |
| sdake | inc0 see ml | 01:32 |
| inc0 | yeah I know, have fun:P | 01:33 |
| sdake | inc0 i sent you an email about it prior as well | 01:33 |
| inc0 | I think I have PDX openstack meetup next week | 01:33 |
| sdake | i'd encourage people to attend local meetups | 01:33 |
| inc0 | or is it k8s /thinking | 01:33 |
| sdake | coolsvap did the first one :) | 01:33 |
| sdake | i know coolsvap got a new gig, not sure if he is still working on openstack or not | 01:33 |
| inc0 | I didnt hear from him | 01:33 |
| inc0 | I'll have to ping him, he wasn't around | 01:34 |
| inc0 | but with my move I'm still getting used to who will be available when | 01:34 |
| inc0 | god timezones are hard | 01:34 |
| inc0 | brb | 01:35 |
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| sdake | boy my new eyewear produced a brutal headache | 01:36 |
| sdake | although the advil seems to taken care of it | 01:36 |
| sdake | kfox1111 could you expand on the microservice for cinder-volumes | 01:36 |
| sdake | do you mean microchart? | 01:36 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: for cinder, you need a cinder-volume daemon. we provide microservice charts for both cinder-volume-ceph and cinder-volume-lvm | 01:38 |
| kfox1111 | as helm doesn't support conditional inclusion yet, | 01:38 |
| sdake | cool | 01:38 |
| kfox1111 | its not in the cinder service package. | 01:38 |
| sdake | so basically everything works :) | 01:38 |
| kfox1111 | so you have to pick one and launch it. | 01:38 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 01:38 |
| sdake | got it - so launch manually | 01:39 |
| sdake | i was planning to launch each service chart indvidiually - probably via a shell script | 01:39 |
| kfox1111 | should work. | 01:39 |
| kfox1111 | might be possible to wrap it into a computekit package too, and do it in one command... :) | 01:40 |
| inc0 | so guys, stuff is no longer simple:P we need to setup cells;) | 01:42 |
| sbezverk_ | sdake: yes it is working, I started cinder-control service | 01:44 |
| sbezverk_ | and then added cinder-volume-lvm microservice | 01:44 |
| sbezverk_ | here is example: | 01:45 |
| sbezverk_ | helm install --debug helm/service/cinder-control --namespace kolla --name cinder-control --values ../kube-1_cloud.yaml | 01:45 |
| sbezverk_ | helm install --debug helm/microservice/helm/microservice/cinder-volume-lvm-daemonset --namespace kolla --name cinder-volume --values ../kube-1_cloud.yaml | 01:45 |
| kfox1111 | gotta head out. l8r | 01:46 |
| sbezverk_ | here is the result: http://paste.openstack.org/show/597122/ | 01:46 |
| sbezverk_ | kfox1111: have a good one! | 01:46 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk_: you too dude. :) | 01:47 |
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| inc0 | that will also affect kolla-k8s | 01:48 |
| inc0 | so guys, cells;) | 01:48 |
| portdirect | o/ hey peeps | 01:50 |
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| inc0 | good afternoon portdirect | 01:53 |
| inc0 | isn't this like middle of night for you? | 01:53 |
| sdake | qwang hope you appreciate it :) | 01:54 |
| sdake | sup portdirect | 01:54 |
| sdake | my wife returns from brno tonight | 01:54 |
| sdake | I assume your already home :) | 01:54 |
| sdake | later kfox1111 | 01:55 |
| sdake | dinner time bbl | 01:55 |
| portdirect | Yeah dude, still defrosting :) | 01:58 |
| inc0 | they announced winter storm warning...agian | 01:58 |
| inc0 | for weekend | 01:58 |
| inc0 | fun fun | 01:58 |
| portdirect | Think I got out at the right time, a lot of flights were cancelled just after I left. | 01:58 |
| portdirect | Awesome city though, and met a load of cool peeps. | 01:59 |
| inc0 | which one? | 02:01 |
| portdirect | Oh, Brno for devconf.cz | 02:12 |
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| inc0 | I like Czech republic, cool country | 02:16 |
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| sdake | i have been to the capital of the czech repulic | 02:18 |
| sdake | i forget what it was called | 02:18 |
| sdake | but it was pretty sweet | 02:18 |
| sdake | i have never been to brno | 02:18 |
| sdake | portdirect did you heed my advice and hold onto your change :) | 02:18 |
| inc0 | Prague | 02:21 |
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| sdake | ya prague | 02:41 |
| sdake | rocked | 02:41 |
| portdirect | lol - I never worked out the currency sdake, the smallest note you get out of an atm is worth about $40 which just makes you unpopular when you try to spend it. | 02:47 |
| sdake | portdirect no doubt - spending 1k crowns is like - impossible | 02:48 |
| sdake | portdirect nobody will maeke change | 02:48 |
| sdake | i needed actual chane to ride the public transport | 02:48 |
| sdake | that was srs biz hunting that down | 02:48 |
| portdirect | yeah man, though tbh I was a horrible stereotypical conference attendee, mostly was in my hotel or the venue - hardly got any time to explore | 02:49 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, pong | 03:01 |
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| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_, we need to implement cells:P | 03:01 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, yep. patch is here https://review.openstack.org/415472 | 03:02 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | it should work | 03:02 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | at least, gate green again. | 03:02 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | ubuntu + binary failed duo to the old code in ubuntu-cloudarchive. | 03:02 |
| inc0 | ahh I made duplicate bug | 03:02 |
| inc0 | thanks | 03:02 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | when it is updated, the ubuntu binary gate will be green. | 03:03 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | np. | 03:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Run nova-manage simple_cell_setup during deploying and upgrading https://review.openstack.org/415472 | 03:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Run nova-manage simple_cell_setup during deploying and upgrading https://review.openstack.org/415472 | 03:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Create a new container when restart a container when necessary https://review.openstack.org/427036 | 03:09 |
| inc0 | I starred it and will review tomorrow if not merged by it | 03:10 |
| sdake | portdirect are you about | 03:10 |
| sdake | happy new year Jeffrey4l_ :) | 03:10 |
| portdirect | o/ | 03:10 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l_ hope you had a nice vacation :) | 03:10 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | sdake, thanks | 03:10 |
| portdirect | happy new year Dude | 03:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: [TEST][MASTER][KOLLA] https://review.openstack.org/426625 | 03:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: [wip] enable ceilometer related project in gate https://review.openstack.org/412278 | 04:21 |
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| sdake_ | bmace you about? | 06:05 |
| sdake_ | apparently not | 06:06 |
| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l_ how was the new year? | 06:06 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | sdake_, not bad ;) | 06:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Implement Keystone zero-downtime upgrade https://review.openstack.org/425446 | 10:35 |
| openstackgerrit | caoyuan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfigure action for manila https://review.openstack.org/421365 | 10:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: update dispatcher configurations for database backend https://review.openstack.org/427639 | 11:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Revert "corrects invalid logrotate option maxsize" https://review.openstack.org/427642 | 11:15 |
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| des_consolado | hey when do you think kolla-kubernetes will be 1.0.0 ? | 12:10 |
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| hrw | des_consolado: you need round numbers to use something? | 12:25 |
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| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l_: around? | 12:34 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | egonzalez, yep. | 12:34 |
| egonzalez | do cells v2 need compute-nodes active before the setup? | 12:35 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | egonzalez, yep. | 12:35 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | simple cell setup need it. | 12:35 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | simple_cell_setup* | 12:35 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | egonzalez, check https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/manage.py#L1111,L1116 | 12:36 |
| egonzalez | re the PS for cellv2, would be better move simple_cell_setup after handlers are executed to have latest rpc version? | 12:36 |
| egonzalez | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415472/4/ansible/roles/nova/tasks/upgrade.yml | 12:36 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | egonzalez, i think no. bootstrap_service.yml require the nova_cell0 database, iirc | 12:37 |
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| des_consolado | hrw: lol D: it says on the github about being ready for evaluation after that point but until then being experimental | 12:43 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l_: right, will use all compute nodes in service list, no matter what version is using | 12:44 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l_: thanks | 12:44 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | np. | 12:44 |
| hrw | des_consolado: I have a feeling that most of things around openstack are experimental | 12:45 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | egonzalez, ubuntu + binary failed, because ubuntu cloud archive is still using old code ( which use nova_api_cell0 as default databases name ) | 12:49 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | so recheck won't make the gate green. | 12:50 |
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| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l_: roger, will they implement new code for xenial? | 13:48 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | egonzalez, sorry? it will be OK when cloud-archive release next nova packages ( they do not use nova latest code all the time ) | 13:52 |
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| zioproto | hello | 13:56 |
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| zioproto | where is documented how to enable and disable stuff ? | 13:56 |
| zioproto | I see in the j2 code stuff like `enable_keystone` | 13:57 |
| zioproto | ah found it ! is the globals, right ? | 13:57 |
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| egonzalez | zioproto: yep | 14:01 |
| zioproto | I am trying to deploy only haproxy mariadb and rabbit | 14:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add nova-placement-api container https://review.openstack.org/427714 | 14:02 |
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| prameswar | hello everyone | 14:08 |
| prameswar | i added one patch 2 week before in kolla-kubernetes still no one reviewed , can anyone review this | 14:09 |
| prameswar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422803/ | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add nova-placement-api container https://review.openstack.org/427714 | 14:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Implement nova placement service https://review.openstack.org/427715 | 14:10 |
| sbezverk | prameswar: hey, this is because the piece of code you were trying to patch, is not really used anymore since we moved to helm.. | 14:11 |
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| prameswar | ok , thank for info | 14:12 |
| sbezverk | prameswar: I would suggest you check current blueprints and select one of available task.. | 14:13 |
| prameswar | sure , thank sbezverk | 14:13 |
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| mliima_ | guys, look this error -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/597079/ | 14:31 |
| mliima_ | but when i comment these lines https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/roles/cinder/defaults/main.yml#L33-L34 | 14:31 |
| mliima_ | :/ | 14:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Fix pull syntax error in cinder https://review.openstack.org/427737 | 14:32 |
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| sbezverk | mliima_: if I read tour paste right, it shows ipc_mode as empty, but cinder volume needs ipc_mode host and host networking true.. I am not 100% sure if it is your problem related, but it looks suspicios to me.. | 14:36 |
| mliima_ | ok sbezverk | 14:37 |
| mliima_ | :) | 14:37 |
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| egonzalez | mliima_: cinder volume list have some empty values "" and is raising error, could you try adding service.volumes|reject('equalto', '')|list in handlers instead of only service.volumes | 14:42 |
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| egonzalez | mliima_: also sbezverk suggestion is correct, missing ipc_mode and privileged mode, this one also affect to cinder-backup | 14:48 |
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| mliima_ | ok egonzalez | 14:51 |
| mliima_ | I fix some things yesterday https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427268/ | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sayantani Goswami proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Modify config.yml playbook for bifrost role https://review.openstack.org/419196 | 14:58 |
| shamail | Hi everyone, I had a quick question that I couldn't find an answer to on AskOpenStack... a friend is considering deploying with Kolla but wanted to know the position of the project team on ideal OS. His exact question was "Hey I'm looking to seriously use OpenStack kolla wondering if you had a sense as to which OS is moving forward as the go to/ most supported? CentOS 7 , OEL, or Ubuntu." I want to say CentOS but wanted to check. | 14:59 |
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| egonzalez | shamail: hard question. This is more of for which OS people like and feel more confident | 15:04 |
| duonghq | sdake, are you there? | 15:05 |
| shamail | Is there any priority on which images get built first since the team works on all OSes? Also saw http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/quickstart.html which suggested CentOS/RHEL from an ansible distribution perspective | 15:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Fix the undefined error for vmtp_vm_availability_zone https://review.openstack.org/427762 | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sayantani Goswami proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Update Bifrost documentation https://review.openstack.org/426841 | 15:17 |
| zhubingbing | hello guys | 15:17 |
| zhubingbing | ；） | 15:17 |
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| duonghq | hi zhubingbing | 15:18 |
| zhubingbing | hi duoghq | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Fix typo heat.conf https://review.openstack.org/427764 | 15:18 |
| zhubingbing | have 2 days vacations over | 15:19 |
| zhubingbing | ；） | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Fix typo heat.conf https://review.openstack.org/427768 | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Fix typo heat.conf https://review.openstack.org/427768 | 15:24 |
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| rwallner | i've run into https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1657946, noticed while using the public images from dockerhub. when do fixes, like the one for this one get pushed back to DH? or is the suggestion possibly to build them, and manage a local registry | 15:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657946 in kolla mitaka "change docker restart policy" [Critical,Confirmed] | 15:47 |
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| egonzalez | rwallner: the code changed is part of kolla-ansible, ansible is not pushed to DH. ATM is merged in master and stable/newton | 15:53 |
| inc0 | o/ | 15:54 |
| srwilkers | hey inc0 o/ | 15:55 |
| srwilkers | hows it going? | 15:55 |
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| inc0 | srwilkers, sleeeep :( | 15:56 |
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| egonzalez | rwallner: but if using pip version, that part of code is not available until tag 3.03 is released | 15:56 |
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| rwallner | thanks egonzalez, i am using pip version, will using master for now | 15:57 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l_: do we merge the cellv2 then? | 15:57 |
| inc0 | meeting in 3min | 15:57 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | egonzalez, i think so. | 15:57 |
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| srwilkers | inc0, sleep? whats that? | 15:57 |
| inc0 | rather poor replacement of coffee | 15:57 |
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| inc0 | last chance to add stuff to agenda | 15:58 |
| zhubingbing | hi | 15:59 |
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| zhubingbing | have 1 min meet | 15:59 |
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| des_consolado | god damn it... kubernetes project uses Slack :\ | 16:03 |
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| srwilkers | yep, and i love it | 16:04 |
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| SamYaple | srwilkers: you can be wrong, its cool | 16:05 |
| SamYaple | des_consolado: they have an IRC gateway | 16:05 |
| srwilkers | SamYaple, ;) | 16:05 |
| SamYaple | :) | 16:05 |
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| zioproto | on the baremetal servers ... what is the suggested operating system to use ? | 16:15 |
| zioproto | I used ubuntu xenial so far, but there is any compatibility list ? | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: [TEST][MASTER][KOLLA-ANSIBLE] https://review.openstack.org/422786 | 16:16 |
| des_consolado | zioproto: any redhat or debian based distro, is the recommendation I think | 16:18 |
| zioproto | ok, so not coreos, right ? | 16:18 |
| des_consolado | so ubuntu trusty or xenial, or enterprise linux 7 | 16:18 |
| des_consolado | no not coreos I don't think | 16:18 |
| zioproto | okay! | 16:18 |
| des_consolado | you're asking for the case of kolla-ansible deployments or kolla-k8s? | 16:18 |
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| des_consolado | I'm a noob but I have absolutely no idea at all about the kubernetes side of things, literally just started looking at that this last 15 minutes | 16:19 |
| des_consolado | kolla-ansible I've been farting around with for a few weeks | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Fix the gate failure https://review.openstack.org/427798 | 16:30 |
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| sdake | inc0 yes sp_ 's blueprint is approved by kolla-drivers | 16:58 |
| sdake | inc0 i think it needs to be approved hopefully by someone specific :) | 16:58 |
| gema | thank you guys | 16:58 |
| duonghq | sdake, will you go to helm wg meeting? | 16:59 |
| sdake | gema we have some females in here too | 16:59 |
| sdake | gema :) | 16:59 |
| inc0 | ahh | 16:59 |
| inc0 | well I always pick myself there | 16:59 |
| sdake | duonghq indeed its on my calendar | 16:59 |
| sdake | inc0 me too | 16:59 |
| duonghq | nice | 16:59 |
| gema | sdake: I say it in the generic way xD | 16:59 |
| gema | sdake: since I am a female, I am allowed, I guess | 16:59 |
| inc0 | generig, unisex guy? | 16:59 |
| duonghq | I need warm up my brain after the vacation | 16:59 |
| gema | yep | 16:59 |
| inc0 | soo | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fix swift dockerfile https://review.openstack.org/426260 | 17:00 |
| inc0 | we'll pick up slack on arm and reviews like that after we're done with release | 17:00 |
| inc0 | so gema give us one more month, that can be good time for you to learn some kolla and maybe fix a bug?;) | 17:00 |
| gema | sounds good, we'll keep scoping the work and figuring out what we need to do | 17:00 |
| inc0 | we like our releases stable | 17:00 |
| kfox1111 | english has a problem in not having a modern word for "group of people without implying gender" :/ | 17:01 |
| gema | inc0: yep, no problem | 17:01 |
| inc0 | gopwig kfox1111 | 17:01 |
| kfox1111 | closest semimodern word I can think of is 'folks' | 17:01 |
| gema | inc0: plus I am one man down this week with the Chinese new year :D | 17:01 |
| inc0 | I just invented it | 17:01 |
| inc0 | hi gopwigs | 17:01 |
| inc0 | it has nice ring to it;) | 17:01 |
| gema | bunch | 17:01 |
| gema | hey bunch | 17:01 |
| gema | x) | 17:01 |
| inc0 | anyway, I need to go afk and move to office before helm call | 17:02 |
| jascott1 | me too see ya | 17:02 |
| inc0 | also, we have helm call in 1hr, whoever is interested, don't forget about it | 17:02 |
| gema | me too, EOD here, see you gopwigs | 17:02 |
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| inc0 | bbiaf | 17:02 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, could u review https://review.openstack.org/415472 | 17:03 |
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| rwallner | seeing this message a few times, different times, {\"message\":\"manifest for kolla/centos-source-fluentd:3.0.2 not found\"}\")\\n'"} tried 3.0.0 and 3.0.2, trying to use kolla-ansible master | 17:28 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l_: do you konw if etcd for lock mangement is as stable as zookeeper yet? | 17:29 |
| kfox1111 | since k8s already depends on etcd, it would be better to use it then zookeeper. | 17:30 |
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| vhosakot | kfox1111: I've been working on etcd the past 3 months and want to say etcd's lock is not great and I hit these two bugs when I used python-etcd | 17:31 |
| vhosakot | https://github.com/jplana/python-etcd/issues/181 and https://github.com/jplana/python-etcd/issues/170 | 17:31 |
| kfox1111 | vhosakot: bummer | 17:32 |
| vhosakot | etcd3 supposedly has good locks and timeout gaurds | 17:32 |
| kfox1111 | vhosakot: is that a problem with etcd or python-etcd? | 17:32 |
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| vhosakot | which etcd version are you using? I see the lock issue with 2.3.7 | 17:32 |
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| kfox1111 | 2x. though it looks like k8s 1.6 will default to 3.x | 17:33 |
| vhosakot | kfox1111: I want to say the lock issue is with python-etcd and not etcd (server) itself... etcd's lock is good I think... how are you using the locks? CLIs ? | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | vhosakot: I'm not. I just know ceph-volume I think now requires oslo's lock abstraction. | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | which supports zookeeper for sure, and I think etcd. | 17:34 |
| kfox1111 | but I'd rather not add zookeeper in addition to etcd if etcd support is stable. | 17:34 |
| vhosakot | yeah, good point | 17:35 |
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| vhosakot | kfox1111: does does log use zookeper client as a plugin? | 17:36 |
| vhosakot | don;t know how easy/tough it would be to swap zookeeper with etcd in oslo lock | 17:36 |
| vhosakot | log==lock | 17:36 |
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| inc0 | back | 17:40 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: is the call today? | 17:40 |
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| kfox1111 | I don't have it on my calendar | 17:40 |
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| des_consolado | bleh what is up with secret-generator.py | 17:40 |
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| inc0 | yeah, let me forward it | 17:41 |
| kfox1111 | thx. | 17:41 |
| inc0 | sent | 17:41 |
| inc0 | des_consolado, whats up with it? | 17:41 |
| des_consolado | kolla_dir = PathFinder.find_kolla_dir() # this should be finding /etc/kolla I'm guessing? | 17:42 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: I updated etcd in my cluster to version 3. works fine and change was very easy | 17:43 |
| des_consolado | somehow my CONFIG_SEARCH_PATHS is only containing: http://imgur.com/6J3RfkU | 17:43 |
| des_consolado | aka kolla_kubernetes.exception.KollaDirNotFoundException: Unable to locate None directory in search_paths=[/home/stack/kolla-kubernetes/share/kolla, /usr/share/kolla, /usr/local/lib/python2.7/kolla, /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kolla] | 17:44 |
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| des_consolado | it's not because CONFIG_SEARCH_PATHS is defined after the find_kolla_dir function is it? | 17:45 |
| des_consolado | my python is sucky... I vaguely remember it fussing about that kind of ordering thing... But then if we import PathFinder surely it processes the whole file and knows about all of it... so that seems an unlikely explanation | 17:46 |
| des_consolado | oh it's using KOLLA_SEARCH_PATHS not CONFIG_SEARCH_PATHS | 17:47 |
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| des_consolado | oh I should be using my installed root share/kolla | 17:49 |
| des_consolado | oh should I be using a virtualenv for dev/testing? | 17:51 |
| inc0 | des_consolado, I ususally do | 17:52 |
| inc0 | did you pip install everything correctly? | 17:52 |
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| des_consolado | I pip installed the requirements, actually I was worried about this so what I did just recently was `pip freeze | xargs pip uninstall -y` both as non-sudo and sudo to just get my pip clean, since I was using system pip on these hosts for kolla-ansible testing | 17:53 |
| des_consolado | then I pip installed the requirements from kolla-kubernetes | 17:53 |
| des_consolado | I notice setuptools is missing from that requirements.txt actually, and I also notice that kolla isn't on there, nor kolla-ansible | 17:53 |
| inc0 | des_consolado, it's better to run in venv pip install -e /path/to/kolla | 17:54 |
| inc0 | this will install binaries well | 17:54 |
| des_consolado | okay and are you using py 2.7? | 17:54 |
| inc0 | yeah | 17:55 |
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| sp__ | Jeffrey4l_: ping... | 17:58 |
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| sp__ | Jeffrey4l_: please review this. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422444/ completed from my side. one more patch merge related to the BP. This would be the final one. | 18:00 |
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| des_consolado | oh this was my problem, it was in the notes of the host-setup doc: "Executing local versions of kolla tools ./tools/kolla-ansible instead of from the system path, will locate resource files from relative locations instead of system locations." | 18:23 |
| des_consolado | oh, no, there is no binary/system version of secret-generator | 18:26 |
| des_consolado | and I'm getting the same result from a virtualenv as well actually | 18:27 |
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| des_consolado | oh you had this exact problem before inc0 lol http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-kolla/%23openstack-kolla.2016-10-01.log.html | 18:28 |
| inc0 | ancient history;) | 18:29 |
| des_consolado | eww you listen to metal :P | 18:29 |
| des_consolado | hahaha | 18:29 |
| inc0 | that one is still true | 18:29 |
| des_consolado | so you literally copied the ansible dir's from the repo dir to the kolla dir in your python path... that's nasty... | 18:31 |
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| inc0 | ancient history;) just doing pip install -e works | 18:32 |
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| SamYaple | i have gigabits | 18:39 |
| SamYaple | so many gigabits | 18:39 |
| des_consolado | hm didn't work for me either... did `pip install -e .` inside both the kolla and kolla-kubernetes dirs, obviously having removed them first... | 18:40 |
| des_consolado | this is using a virtualenv, py 2.7 ... | 18:41 |
| des_consolado | oh it's looking for ansible dirs in a directory in the kolla project... but there is no ansible dir in the kolla project, the ansible dir is only in the kolla-ansible repo in master | 18:42 |
| des_consolado | so it needs kolla newton installed, as opposed to kolla master | 18:43 |
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| sdake__ | fuck cant find my helm window | 18:52 |
| sdake__ | inc0 - this workgroup should be about openstack on helm | 18:52 |
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| inc0 | workgroup yes, channel? idk | 18:53 |
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| sdake__ | whisky tango foxtrot | 19:03 |
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| sdkae | if the irc channel is the conduit for communication it should be openstack-on-helm | 19:04 |
| des_consolado | Wtf... So every time I was pip uninstalling kolla it was leaving some crap behind (stuff in the cmd dir). I rm -rf'd that and did a pip install -e from the kolla repo dir on the stable/newton branch and that has worked for getting past that error I think... bit of a ball-ache tho... | 19:04 |
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| sdake | openstack-helm is a project specific channel | 19:04 |
| sdake | jsut as openstack-kolla isa project specific channel | 19:04 |
| des_consolado | and now it's moaning about the config dir: kolla_kubernetes.exception.KollaDirNotFoundException: Unable to locate None directory in search_paths=[/home/stack/kolla-kubernetes/share/kolla, /usr/share/kolla, /usr/local/lib/python2.7/kolla, /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kolla] | 19:04 |
| sdake | anyway i've said my peace | 19:04 |
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| des_consolado | surely it should be checking /etc/kolla at this point | 19:04 |
| sdake | i've got m0ar meetings! | 19:04 |
| sdake | query inc0 | 19:04 |
| des_consolado | are you saying I shouldn't talk about the kubernetes side of things here? :S | 19:06 |
| des_consolado | ah I gotta go for the evening as well anyway, peace too lol | 19:06 |
| v1k0d3n | sdake: you do realize you have a kolla channel in kubernetes, right? | 19:08 |
| v1k0d3n | so do you waant both of the helm channels labeled with kolla perhaps? | 19:08 |
| sdake | right - however the way you framed the discsusion in the zoom meeting was that #openstack-helm was the conduit for the workgroup to the helm upstream | 19:09 |
| sdake | what I want is #openstack-on-kubernetes | 19:09 |
| sdake | with a linkage | 19:09 |
| sdake | project-neutral | 19:09 |
| sdake | if you want to have an #openstack-helm channel thats your perogative :) | 19:09 |
| sdake | the problem is naming conventions I think | 19:10 |
| sdake | as you saw on that cal there are several projects involved in the meetings - and we do want to build bridges - not lock people into any one path | 19:10 |
| sdake | #openstack-kolla is user support for kolla on slack | 19:10 |
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| sdake | v1k0d3n to answer your question, I dont hitnk it makees sense for both of those projects to be labeled kolla - what I do think makes sense is for there to be a common communication mechanism that is project agnostic between slack and irc | 19:14 |
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| sdake | v1k0d3n would you be willing to set that up? | 19:14 |
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| sdake | v1k0d3n looking at this pull request and the rationale you used to create the channel openstack-helm | 19:19 |
| sdake | https://github.com/kubernetes/helm/issues/1877#issuecomment-275567421 | 19:19 |
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| sdake | you indicated this was for openstack on kubernetes with helm collobartion | 19:19 |
| sdake | what you left out of that was it was for only openstack-helm collobartion | 19:20 |
| sdake | as in the att github repo | 19:20 |
| hogepodge | sdake: v1k0d3n: Can we please set aside some time to have another meeting and work this out? | 19:20 |
| hogepodge | sdake: v1k0d3n: async irc after the meeting let out without a chance to prepare and work this into our schedules is not going to be as productive | 19:21 |
| sdake | indeed i have to run - multitasking at present - although I feel duped by this effort - and this is not a way to build bridges between openstack and cncf | 19:22 |
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| v1k0d3n | sdake, i will change the topic, but i will leave #openstack-helm. you are welcome to join the channel and talk about openstack-helm things. | 19:34 |
| v1k0d3n | which is implied to be kubernetes | 19:35 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n i guess this raises the question of what will you do when you need a channel for openstack-helm assuming you apply for the big tent | 19:35 |
| sdake | since your repository is named openstack-helm | 19:35 |
| v1k0d3n | sdake i think the ask has been noted and the topic has been changed. | 19:36 |
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| v1k0d3n | btw, there are two projects named openstack-helm, so...which one are you referring to? | 19:37 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n which two projects are there? | 19:37 |
| v1k0d3n | openstack-helm and....openstack-helm. | 19:38 |
| v1k0d3n | sdake: why am i feeling bullied by an openstack director right now? | 19:38 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n i am wearing my kolla hat | 19:39 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n my BOD hat has no bearing in this conversation | 19:39 |
| v1k0d3n | you're popping between projects and commenting here and there. | 19:39 |
| v1k0d3n | well, perhaps you should consider your openstack director hat, and what it's doing to your community. | 19:39 |
| v1k0d3n | i have to go. bye. | 19:40 |
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| kfox1111 | v1k0d3n: I get that your trying to help solve the openstack using helm issues and providing an implementation. | 20:00 |
| kfox1111 | the former is really appreciated. | 20:00 |
| kfox1111 | the second is your progative. | 20:00 |
| kfox1111 | its hard sometimes to seperate the two though. | 20:00 |
| kfox1111 | especially when the same word is used for both activities. | 20:01 |
| kfox1111 | I think we're all a bit oversensitive about the latter, and its bleading into discussions about the former. | 20:02 |
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| kfox1111 | so, lets try for now to keep it to discussions of the former, and give everyone the benifit of the doubt and try and work together at least that much? | 20:04 |
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| v1k0d3n | again, i will come back to what i said in barcelona... | 20:06 |
| v1k0d3n | this should be a separate project from kolla | 20:06 |
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| v1k0d3n | think of all the things you have to do just to keep that around? | 20:06 |
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| v1k0d3n | not my call, but the generic approach was brought up already. | 20:07 |
| kfox1111 | what do you mean? "think of all the things you have to do just to keep that around?" keep what around? | 20:07 |
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| kfox1111 | I think the issues is naming. kolla-kubernetes has a unique enough name, not to be confused with fuel-ccp. | 20:08 |
| kfox1111 | but openstack-helm could be used to describe so many things. | 20:08 |
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| kfox1111 | why does at&t's implementation get to use such a generic name when it could just as easily apply to other implmeentations? | 20:09 |
| srwilkers | kfox1111, same thing could be said about openstack-ansible | 20:09 |
| srwilkers | or openstack-puppet | 20:09 |
| srwilkers | or openstack-<whatever tool you want here> | 20:09 |
| kfox1111 | srwilkers: I agree about openstack-ansible. but it was established before kolla I think. | 20:10 |
| v1k0d3n | kfox1111: sorry...but it's not "att". there's always a main contributor right? | 20:10 |
| v1k0d3n | just because you are 50% of the commits to kolla...does this make this the kfox1111 repo? | 20:10 |
| v1k0d3n | hmmm | 20:10 |
| srwilkers | kfox1111, thats fair, but no project should really set a naming convention, regardless of which came first | 20:10 |
| kfox1111 | v1k0d3n: sorry, I didn't have any other hande to call it other then openstack-helm. which I think is too overloaded a term to give to a project. | 20:11 |
| kfox1111 | srwilkers: agreed. but I think its the openstack foundation that owns the trademark 'openstack' | 20:11 |
| kfox1111 | so they get to decide what calls itself openstack%s I think. | 20:11 |
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| kfox1111 | srwilkers: actually, it looks like right now, the contributation to kolla-kubernetes stand at 20%, 16%, 16%, 15%, 12%, etc. | 20:13 |
| kfox1111 | so I would n't call that kfox1111's project. | 20:13 |
| kfox1111 | And I"m not even the top contributor. | 20:13 |
| srwilkers | kfox1111, wrong person there man. i didnt say that | 20:13 |
| kfox1111 | srwilkers: sorry.tab completion fail. :/ | 20:13 |
| kfox1111 | seems like a healthy commit ratio though. no one owns kolla-kubernetes but the community. | 20:14 |
| srwilkers | all im going to say is that im going to take a step back from all of this right now. im hugely supportive of neutral channels for both projects and future similar projects to exist | 20:14 |
| srwilkers | both projects need to realize we have a lot we can learn from each other | 20:14 |
| kfox1111 | +1 | 20:14 |
| srwilkers | and can mutually benefit from working together to push not only openstack but kubernetes and helm in particular forward | 20:14 |
| srwilkers | while still being distinct entities | 20:14 |
| kfox1111 | just please don't name sqat. it feels ike an attempt to one up the other communities. :/ | 20:15 |
| kfox1111 | I'd be perfectly happy if it was still called aic-helm. | 20:15 |
| srwilkers | i dont pick the names, but ill do anything else i can to make sure both projects succeed | 20:15 |
| kfox1111 | thanks. thats appreciated. | 20:15 |
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| jascott1 | are we planning any after hours event for kolla peeps or are we just playing it by ear? | 20:30 |
| srwilkers | man, if there arent any after hours events, ill be sorely disappointed | 20:32 |
| srwilkers | eating and drinking with the kolla guys was the highlight of barcelona for me | 20:32 |
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| portdirect | jascott1: of course there will be, wether planned or not we need to get thrown out of a few "fine" establishments ;) | 20:37 |
| srwilkers | portdirect, i hope youre ready, because chances are we will | 20:37 |
| * jascott1 high fives portdirect | 20:37 | |
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| portdirect | i say we go drinking in one of the neutron sessions, those peeps need to lighten up | 20:38 |
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| srwilkers | portdirect, +2 to that | 20:39 |
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| kfox1111 | hehe | 20:47 |
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| inc0 | where do we hold our pit fithgs? | 20:56 |
| inc0 | nova? | 20:57 |
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| portdirect | man I wouldn't start a fight in nova, those guys are CRAZY | 20:59 |
| * portdirect pushes ps to nova, get rejected, standard | 20:59 | |
| srwilkers | pit fights in cinder | 21:00 |
| inc0 | srwilkers, metal | 21:05 |
| inc0 | flamethrowers are allowed | 21:05 |
| srwilkers | inc0, im in. metal? flamethrowers? uh, yes please | 21:09 |
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| inc0 | n | 21:13 |
| inc0 | that...was meant for terminal:( | 21:13 |
| portdirect | rm -rf /dev/world | 21:14 |
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| inc0 | echo /dev/urandom >> /dev/brain | 21:14 |
| srwilkers | leaving the office | 21:17 |
| srwilkers | be back shortly | 21:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla: DONOTMERGE!! POC!! This thin is actually working.. https://review.openstack.org/427931 | 21:30 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, Jeffrey4l_ SamYaple everyone ^ | 21:30 |
| inc0 | world soon can be much much simpler | 21:31 |
| rhallisey | inc0, your title scares me away | 21:31 |
| rhallisey | XD | 21:31 |
| inc0 | rhallisey, check out code, you'll be amazed | 21:31 |
| inc0 | because I just successfully deployed this | 21:32 |
| inc0 | rhallisey, long story short - ditch the base image | 21:32 |
| inc0 | and package installation | 21:32 |
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| rhallisey | don't think anything runs after CMD | 21:34 |
| rhallisey | inc0, where will the packages come from? | 21:35 |
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| inc0 | look at FROM | 21:35 |
| inc0 | packages my good sir comes from upstream mariadb team maintained image | 21:35 |
| rhallisey | ah | 21:36 |
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| rhallisey | does every osp service have this? | 21:36 |
| inc0 | and if you look at actual image, there is nothing really mariadb specific | 21:36 |
| inc0 | osp? | 21:36 |
| rhallisey | openstack | 21:36 |
| rhallisey | glance, keystone, neutron | 21:36 |
| inc0 | mariadb isn't openstack service | 21:36 |
| inc0 | these are our job | 21:36 |
| inc0 | but non-os servies? | 21:36 |
| rhallisey | inc0, ask each $service to maintain their own container? | 21:37 |
| rhallisey | with only packages | 21:37 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: interesting. | 21:38 |
| inc0 | rhallisey, not sure if that would be maintainable, we can still host openstack service images | 21:38 |
| inc0 | but we can ditch ceph, rabbitmq, mariadb | 21:39 |
| rhallisey | inc0, ya that would be a drastic change | 21:39 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I would be interested in hearing what tripleo would think. | 21:39 |
| kfox1111 | as they like to use rdo for everything. | 21:39 |
| inc0 | we can literally have single image to "kollaize" all the images from upstream | 21:39 |
| inc0 | well yeah, that would mean "base distro" becomes irrelevant in this context | 21:40 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. thats very interesting. | 21:40 |
| inc0 | we could drastically simplify our base images too if that would land | 21:41 |
| inc0 | as we would only need to care about pip installable stuff | 21:41 |
| inc0 | and frankly? I trust rabbitmq community to provide better rabbitmq images than we ever will | 21:42 |
| kfox1111 | -1 | 21:43 |
| inc0 | lol | 21:43 |
| kfox1111 | I prefer rdo based packages for my binary stuff. | 21:43 |
| kfox1111 | I don't build from source. | 21:43 |
| kfox1111 | or if I was an ubuntu guy, their packages. | 21:44 |
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| inc0 | kfox1111, but you can host your own image right?;) do you trust yourself to provide base image? | 21:44 |
| inc0 | because as long as we make this changable, that's up to you | 21:44 |
| kfox1111 | why make everyone that thinks the same as me build from scratch, when the code is already done. | 21:44 |
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| inc0 | kfox1111, so reason I actually though of it in the first place is when Sam found out that our mariadb image had ancient version of xtrabackup | 21:45 |
| inc0 | because package was unmaintained in official ubuntu repo | 21:46 |
| inc0 | making our mariadb impossible to deploy in cluster | 21:46 |
| kfox1111 | and why I prefer redhat based. :) | 21:46 |
| kfox1111 | we shoudl be testing out what we release. | 21:46 |
| kfox1111 | if we were, we'd have cought it. | 21:46 |
| inc0 | cool, but still rdo people can host these images | 21:46 |
| inc0 | we don't | 21:46 |
| inc0 | don't have to* | 21:46 |
| kfox1111 | I think some day they may. but until kolla establishes more of a foothold, it won't happen. | 21:47 |
| inc0 | as long as we allow these base images to be configurable | 21:47 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, I did and I cought it | 21:47 |
| kfox1111 | if its just a base image thing, supporting 2 base images isn't that high a lift. | 21:47 |
| kfox1111 | I think the conern is its more then "just build a base image" | 21:47 |
| inc0 | but I won't give you my word today that there is no security update to rabbimq for example taht we're not installing | 21:47 |
| kfox1111 | that has been the official stance. | 21:48 |
| inc0 | what I'm saying, kolla doesn't have to support image itself | 21:48 |
| inc0 | as long as someone supports it | 21:48 |
| kfox1111 | forking centosbase vs forking mariadb still requires infra to catch security issues and build new stuff. | 21:48 |
| kfox1111 | its the same process either way. | 21:49 |
| kfox1111 | docker hub doesn't provide any tooling to help with that. | 21:49 |
| kfox1111 | was planning on talking about that topic at the ptg. | 21:49 |
| kfox1111 | tripleo is interested in discussing it too. | 21:49 |
| inc0 | so let me rephrase it, if we support it in kolla, it will be less used = less maintained than if it's non-kolla specific | 21:49 |
| inc0 | what I'm saying is if kolla supports all the openstack service images | 21:50 |
| kfox1111 | in a way, in a way not... | 21:50 |
| inc0 | and assumes it has base image with packages in it | 21:50 |
| inc0 | available somewhere | 21:50 |
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| kfox1111 | there are more mariadb deployments from redhat, then upstreams container. | 21:50 |
| kfox1111 | there are less container deployments of mariadb in kolla container then in upstreams container. | 21:50 |
| inc0 | yes, but tell me, what stops RH from providing image? | 21:50 |
| kfox1111 | so, is the bug in software, or packaging? | 21:51 |
| kfox1111 | desire | 21:51 |
| inc0 | what stops us, as people, from supporting it? just outside of kolla project | 21:51 |
| inc0 | we can create our own semi-project called rdo-mariadb | 21:52 |
| inc0 | with just dockerfile in it | 21:52 |
| inc0 | and just for rdo | 21:52 |
| inc0 | and kolla can consume it | 21:52 |
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| inc0 | thing is, other people, not really openstack people, can consume it too | 21:52 |
| inc0 | consume and contribute | 21:52 |
| inc0 | I mean I don't believe we'll find all the images ready | 21:53 |
| inc0 | but we can start looking for them | 21:53 |
| inc0 | and fill the gaps | 21:53 |
| kfox1111 | one of kolla's claim to faims is providing a neuttral place where containerized openstack stuff can live and be maintained and shared. | 21:53 |
| kfox1111 | kolla has as much traction as it does, due to that. | 21:53 |
| kfox1111 | just saying, we should be careful tryign to drop support that our users may desire. | 21:53 |
| * kfox1111 waves his hand | 21:54 | |
| kfox1111 | I desire | 21:54 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, contenerized openstack, true | 21:54 |
| inc0 | mariadb is not openstack | 21:54 |
| kfox1111 | docker wants to move everyting into a distro'less world. I'm not convinced that will work out well long term. time will tell. | 21:55 |
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| charliekang | kolla-ansible fluentd question? With the latest changes deprecating heka, our fluentd fails to start with module error, keyerror environment | 22:37 |
| charliekang | Been debugging, is this an ansible docker versioning issue? | 22:37 |
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| sdake | alanmeadows - interested in a panel relating to collaboration between OpenStack and Helm? | 22:58 |
| sdake | jascott1 - intereted in a panel related to collaboration between OpenStack and Helm? | 22:58 |
| sdake | hogepodge - you already indicated you would be willing to moderate such a panel | 22:59 |
| sdake | qwang - i think this was your suggestion | 22:59 |
| jascott1 | qwang already hit me up, i am hesitant | 22:59 |
| sdake | panels are easy | 22:59 |
| sdake | why hesitant? | 23:00 |
| jascott1 | not big on presentations | 23:00 |
| sdake | there is no presentation | 23:00 |
| sdake | here is how a panel works | 23:00 |
| jascott1 | totally willing to contribute | 23:00 |
| sdake | you stand up there and look good on stage :) | 23:01 |
| qwang | shall we also give a presentation for it? It may attract more people but will it be redundant? | 23:01 |
| sdake | while hogepodge asks you easy questions | 23:01 |
| jascott1 | but I have a face for radio :/ | 23:01 |
| jascott1 | nice | 23:01 |
| bmace_ | jascott1: lol | 23:01 |
| sdake | jascott1 i've done several panels | 23:01 |
| sdake | jascott1 they are super non-confrontational | 23:01 |
| sdake | I thought probably as you did originally that they woudl be | 23:02 |
| sdake | the panel works together to get a specific message across to the audience | 23:02 |
| * portdirect shouts hard questions from audience, what is you favorite color jascott1? | 23:02 | |
| qwang | panel - max 3 speakers + 1 moderator | 23:02 |
| qwang | sdake: non-confrontational is nice | 23:02 |
| jascott1 | "blue.. wait, no it isnt" | 23:02 |
| sdake | jascott1 ++ | 23:02 |
| * jascott1 goes flying into the chasm | 23:02 | |
| bmace_ | jascott1: just don't disagree with sdake and it will be completely non-confrontational ;) | 23:03 |
| jascott1 | lol | 23:03 |
| sdake | i am not goin to be on the panel | 23:03 |
| bmace_ | -1 | 23:03 |
| sdake | it was qwang 's proposal | 23:03 |
| sdake | and there isn't space on stage for 6 people :) | 23:03 |
| qwang | i got the idea from our ptl inc0 | 23:03 |
| sdake | qwang its a good idea - I see jascott1 as representing the helm viewpoint since he is involved in upstream helm significantly | 23:04 |
| bmace_ | yeah, i have seen some 5 / 6 people panels and each person ends up not getting much time. | 23:04 |
| qwang | sdake: agree. I hope he changes his mind | 23:04 |
| jascott1 | well if the people are *demanding* it | 23:05 |
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| sdake | jascott1 it would be helpful for both foundations | 23:05 |
| bmace_ | jascott1: sounds like it. jascott1 or riot. | 23:05 |
| jascott1 | not again | 23:05 |
| jascott1 | :) | 23:05 |
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| sdake | this isn't a kolla thing - its a foundation thing | 23:05 |
| sdake | would be nice to have matt or someone from helm participate - not sure if they will be at openstack summit | 23:06 |
| jascott1 | well if its all for the good of the foundation... | 23:06 |
| sdake | both foundations | 23:06 |
| srwilkers | jascott1: i am demanding you participate | 23:06 |
| * jascott1 salutes | 23:07 | |
| qwang | +1 | 23:07 |
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| jascott1 | "For Krom, Kolla and Kubernetes!" | 23:07 |
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| sdake | i guess alanmeadows is gone for the day | 23:08 |
| sdake | or afk | 23:08 |
| inc0 | "our ptl inc0" | 23:08 |
| inc0 | I like the sound of that | 23:08 |
| srwilkers | eh | 23:08 |
| jascott1 | "every time I try to get out they pull me back in!" | 23:08 |
| sdake | inc0 groan | 23:08 |
| alanmeadows | sorry missed your question sdake | 23:08 |
| inc0 | ;) | 23:08 |
| sdake | alanmeadows woudl you like to participate in a panel moderated by chris hodge? | 23:08 |
| jascott1 | supreme PT Leader | 23:09 |
| sdake | (in may at summit) | 23:09 |
| alanmeadows | This is about our collaboration we're doing with #helm? | 23:09 |
| sdake | right | 23:09 |
| inc0 | god emperor is also good title | 23:09 |
| srwilkers | jascott1: for some reason that made me think of supreme commander, then thought of inc0 as a commander | 23:09 |
| sdake | that various OpenStack contributors are collaborating with CNCF | 23:09 |
| sdake | inc0 is like minime | 23:10 |
| jascott1 | his containerness, the PTL | 23:10 |
| srwilkers | jascott1: and now i want to play TA, planetary annihilation, and supreme commander..all at once | 23:10 |
| alanmeadows | Certainly a good message to send, I'm fine with that | 23:10 |
| jascott1 | haha | 23:10 |
| sdake | ok - do we have enough epople for a panel then? | 23:10 |
| inc0 | srwilkers, command and conquer ftw | 23:10 |
| sdake | qwang, jascott, and alanmeadows? | 23:10 |
| sdake | jascott1 that is | 23:10 |
| inc0 | I also started to play Stellaris, great 4x game | 23:10 |
| srwilkers | inc0: pre-EA C&C pls | 23:11 |
| srwilkers | sdake: sounds like a good 3 | 23:11 |
| inc0 | cnc red alert 2 | 23:11 |
| jascott1 | never have time for RTS | 23:11 |
| inc0 | ^ thats my personal favorite | 23:11 |
| alanmeadows | I find the best panels of consist of 4-5 | 23:11 |
| sdake | hogepodge can you submit the session? | 23:11 |
| srwilkers | inc0: i have something for you, pm inc | 23:11 |
| jascott1 | (says the guy that plays dwarf fortress) | 23:11 |
| sdake | or someone else? Im pretty sure I can't submit one :) | 23:11 |
| alanmeadows | that way you get some diversity | 23:11 |
| jascott1 | arent you supreme director now sdake? | 23:12 |
| alanmeadows | not that it matters, I'm always right | 23:12 |
| sdake | alanmeadows agreeed -although the foundation has a limit of 3 | 23:12 |
| sdake | jascott1 i'm just a dude raising a family and teaching the next generation :) | 23:12 |
| qwang | 3 speakers + 1 moderator; we can have 1 more | 23:12 |
| sdake | qwang cool 1 m0ar | 23:13 |
| sdake | would be nice to have 1 more helm person involved | 23:13 |
| inc0 | I'd wish we could pull in someone from helm | 23:13 |
| sdake | oh moderator - the moderator isnt' actually on the panel | 23:13 |
| jascott1 | we have taylor whos a core | 23:13 |
| inc0 | sdake, I don't think that's true for panels | 23:13 |
| jascott1 | he doesnt work on openstack tho | 23:13 |
| inc0 | in Austin we had panel with 5 or so people | 23:13 |
| sdake | inc0 ya the panel can grow once you actually get there :) | 23:13 |
| sdake | inc0 you submit it with 3 people | 23:14 |
| sdake | is matt going to openstack summit? | 23:14 |
| sdake | he would be ideal | 23:14 |
| sdake | or lachie would work as well | 23:14 |
| sdake | qwang - it seems liek we have soem form of critical mass for a panel | 23:15 |
| jascott1 | i dont see why they would be other than a chance to preach k8s/helm | 23:15 |
| sdake | qwang would you submit one | 23:15 |
| qwang | sdake: sure | 23:15 |
| sdake | qwang if you need help putting it together, might reach out to hogepodge - as he offered to moderate the panel | 23:16 |
| inc0 | I might join too, but not required | 23:16 |
| srwilkers | inc0: we go drink instead | 23:16 |
| inc0 | there, in the room | 23:16 |
| inc0 | and ask hard questions while at it | 23:16 |
| qwang | sdake: cool. thanks. I'll start a draft and ask for help to re-phrase | 23:17 |
| jascott1 | oh i get it, "ya panels are great and you should be on a panel and we will be over here drinking" :) | 23:18 |
| srwilkers | jascott1: ;) | 23:19 |
| inc0 | someone has to do the job | 23:20 |
| inc0 | the work* | 23:20 |
| qwang | one more question: will there be presentation/demo in a panel? | 23:20 |
| inc0 | qwang, normally no | 23:20 |
| inc0 | it's just people sitting and answering someones questions | 23:20 |
| inc0 | and questions are known and agreed on beforehand | 23:21 |
| jascott1 | are we being groomed for office? | 23:21 |
| qwang | then, would it make sense if we do a presentation for the same thing alongside? | 23:21 |
| inc0 | then you pick people you know from the room to ask question you've agreed on with them... | 23:21 |
| inc0 | or I shouldn't mention that one? | 23:21 |
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| jascott1 | hah | 23:21 |
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| * portdirect no one expects the spanish inquisition inc0 | 23:21 | |
| inc0 | :D | 23:22 |
| jascott1 | portdirect gets it | 23:22 |
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| inc0 | qwang, I don't think panel and prezentation would make sense | 23:22 |
| jascott1 | alright folks tahts 3 monty python references this hour by my count | 23:22 |
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| inc0 | well, they are funniest jokes right? | 23:23 |
| inc0 | killing joke I might say | 23:23 |
| jascott1 | the best | 23:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Sayantani Goswami proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: WIP Deployment Guide https://review.openstack.org/427965 | 23:24 |
| inc0 | but we still don't know what is our quest my dear knights of the round container | 23:24 |
| jascott1 | seems like a presentation deep dive/excitement generator and panel would go together | 23:24 |
| jascott1 | like not exactly the same material but related? | 23:25 |
| qwang | jascott1: I like that. | 23:26 |
| inc0 | these are 2 different forms tho, and I doubt we'd get more than one timeslot | 23:26 |
| jascott1 | ah gotcha | 23:26 |
| inc0 | time slots are expensive and rare commodity | 23:26 |
| jascott1 | are there any BOFs at summit? | 23:27 |
| jascott1 | breakout rooms for whatever subtopics (birds of feather) | 23:27 |
| inc0 | there will be sessions | 23:27 |
| inc0 | for project teams | 23:27 |
| jascott1 | ok | 23:28 |
| inc0 | like fishbowl sessions from previous summits | 23:28 |
| jascott1 | i guess the closest i have heard would be the cross project sessions maybe | 23:28 |
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