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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP - local registry in gates https://review.openstack.org/418550 | 00:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP: Add Development Setup Script for use with Kubernetes Helm https://review.openstack.org/405720 | 00:28 |
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| kfox1111 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333996/ should be ready for reviews. | 00:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP: Add Development Setup Script for use with Kubernetes Helm https://review.openstack.org/405720 | 00:39 |
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| duonghq | morning guys | 00:44 |
| duonghq | has anybody received TSF for PTG result? | 00:46 |
| kfox1111 | hey. | 00:47 |
| portdirect_away | nope - assuming the worst :( | 00:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Duong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Horizon service package https://review.openstack.org/423016 | 00:50 |
| kfox1111 | hmm... trunk seems a bit broken.... | 00:50 |
| kfox1111 | there seems to be a race in mariadb service package. | 00:51 |
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| kfox1111 | mariadb-init-element and mariadb shouldn't be running at the same time. | 00:52 |
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| kfox1111 | hmm... cause it doesn't have a dep section... | 00:53 |
| kfox1111 | could have swarn all had them by now. | 00:53 |
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| duonghq | kfox1111, seen that | 01:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add dependency container to mariadb https://review.openstack.org/423874 | 01:33 |
| kfox1111 | duonghq: yeah. saw it in a fiew different places. | 01:34 |
| kfox1111 | finally tracked it down to arace condition in the mariadb service package. | 01:34 |
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| sp_ | Jeffrey4l_: ping... | 03:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yao Lu proposed openstack/kolla: Fix docker restart policy issue on docker engine 1.13 https://review.openstack.org/423026 | 03:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cuong Nguyen proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Remove unnecessary f.close() https://review.openstack.org/421786 | 04:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add dependency container to mariadb https://review.openstack.org/423874 | 05:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Horizon service package https://review.openstack.org/423016 | 05:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Log docker images in the gate. https://review.openstack.org/423894 | 05:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Remove unnecessary f.close() https://review.openstack.org/421786 | 05:25 |
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| sp_ | duonghq: ping... | 05:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yao Lu proposed openstack/kolla: Fix spelling mistake in setup_Debian.sh https://review.openstack.org/423896 | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Surya Prakash Singh proposed openstack/kolla: Code coverage improvement for kolla https://review.openstack.org/422444 | 06:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anh Tran proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Typo fix: persistant => persistent https://review.openstack.org/423933 | 06:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Correction of file path in the developer environment page https://review.openstack.org/423793 | 06:42 |
| sdake | kfox1111 rax-* providers are failing in the gate - is it possible to use the virt type of qemu? This will fix the rax failures in the gating that happen consisntely. The reason is that rax uses xen as a virt layer and kvm virt nested on xen is not a thing that works. | 07:01 |
| sdake | kfox1111 it requires changing minikube launching to use qemu rather then kvm | 07:01 |
| sdake | kfox1111 this will help us get to voting gates rapidly and stablize the gate once the patchset for a docker registry in the gate merges that inc0 is working on | 07:02 |
| sdake | kfox1111 reference: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422380/1 | 07:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Nova-compute service deployment https://review.openstack.org/422688 | 07:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change version from 0.4.0 to 0.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/423957 | 07:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Fix different repo issue for documentation https://review.openstack.org/405054 | 07:30 |
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| SamYaple | kvm nested on xen works just fine. kvm in the gate doesnt work at all, on any provider | 07:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Re-version helm after a release https://review.openstack.org/423973 | 07:55 |
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| sp_ | Jeffrey4l_: I have incorporated your comments. In addition to existing code added the unittest for kolla/template/methods.py too. Please review, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422444/12 | 08:10 |
| sp_ | Jeffrey4l_: I need to complete it soon, so that I can again focus on other BPs. | 08:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible: Load karbor dashboard https://review.openstack.org/423576 | 09:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fix designate dockerfile https://review.openstack.org/422366 | 09:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fix solum dashboard into horizon image. https://review.openstack.org/423837 | 09:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible: Use port variable replace 5000 and 35357 https://review.openstack.org/423348 | 10:21 |
| sp_ | Jeffrey4l_: ping.... | 10:24 |
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| sp_ | duonghq__: ping.... | 10:26 |
| sp_ | duonghq__: need some help | 10:26 |
| sp_ | Coverage.py warning: Module kolla-ansible was never imported. | 10:26 |
| sp_ | Coverage.py warning: No data was collected. | 10:26 |
| sp_ | Coverage.py warning: Module kolla-ansible was never imported. | 10:26 |
| sp_ | Coverage.py warning: No data was collected. | 10:26 |
| sp_ | Coverage.py warning: Module kolla-ansible was never imported. | 10:26 |
| sp_ | Coverage.py warning: No data was collected. | 10:27 |
| sp_ | Coverage.py warning: Module kolla-ansible was never imported. | 10:27 |
| sp_ | Coverage.py warning: No data was collected. | 10:27 |
| sp_ | Ran 51 tests in 0.253s (+0.055s) | 10:27 |
| sp_ | PASSED (id=3) | 10:27 |
| sp_ | No data to report. | 10:27 |
| sp_ | ______________________________________________________________ summary _______________________________________________________________ | 10:27 |
| sp_ | cover: commands succeeded | 10:27 |
| sp_ | congratulations :) | 10:27 |
| sp_ | what can be problem into this ? | 10:27 |
| sp_ | why data is not collected ? | 10:27 |
| sp_ | if anyone have idea about this please help | 10:27 |
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| sp_ | pbourke: it would be great if you review this now seems fine to me. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422444/12 | 10:30 |
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| sp_ | egonzalez: ping... | 11:19 |
| egonzalez | sup sp_ | 11:19 |
| sp_ | egonzalez: can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422444/12 I have incorporated Jeffrey4l comments. Now seems fine to me. | 11:21 |
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| trinaths | hi | 11:30 |
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| trinaths | I still have this issue with ansible while environement setup for kolla-kubernetes. | 11:31 |
| trinaths | please find the log here, | 11:31 |
| trinaths | http://paste.openstack.org/show/596020/ | 11:31 |
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| trinaths | i was struch with that error at $> vagrant up command. | 11:32 |
| trinaths | following the guide @ http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla-kubernetes/development-environment.html#managing-and-interacting-with-the-environment | 11:32 |
| portdirect | :( | 11:32 |
| sp_ | pbourke: tx | 11:32 |
| portdirect | trinaths: are you familiar with vagrant? | 11:32 |
| trinaths | portdirect: a beginner | 11:32 |
| portdirect | ok :) | 11:32 |
| portdirect | right that error to me looks like you may have a networking issue | 11:33 |
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| portdirect | what platform are you trying to run on? | 11:33 |
| trinaths | i'm in a test network where i need to confiure /etc/hosts with IP-HOSTNAME required for the setup | 11:34 |
| trinaths | ubuntu 16.04 | 11:34 |
| portdirect | could you expand on this: 'i'm in a test network where i need to confiure /etc/hosts with IP-HOSTNAME required for the setup' i'm not quite sure what you mean | 11:34 |
| portdirect | is there something unusual about your internet access from where you are trying to run halcyon? | 11:35 |
| trinaths | portdirect: well, something like this | 11:36 |
| trinaths | http://paste.openstack.org/show/596021/ | 11:36 |
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| trinaths | portdirect: its not unusual, but its a bit slow | 11:36 |
| portdirect | so you dont have dns? | 11:36 |
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| trinaths | portdirect: we have, but for some websites, I need to configure this way to work. | 11:37 |
| portdirect | right :( | 11:37 |
| portdirect | it looks like its failing as it cannot reach the centos repos | 11:37 |
| portdirect | this could be quite tricky to resolve | 11:38 |
| trinaths | portdirect: oh okay. how to configure so that it can resolve | 11:38 |
| portdirect | can you run a dns server on the machine that you are running vagrant on? | 11:38 |
| trinaths | portdirect: i'm afraid it might violate the test environment. | 11:39 |
| portdirect | ok | 11:39 |
| portdirect | your going to need to qo quite a lot to get this running then I'm afraid | 11:39 |
| portdirect | are you familiar with ansible? | 11:39 |
| trinaths | yes. | 11:39 |
| portdirect | right halcyon runs a set of playbooks | 11:40 |
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| portdirect | https://github.com/att-comdev/halcyon-kubernetes | 11:40 |
| portdirect | you should clone/fork these | 11:40 |
| trinaths | done, | 11:40 |
| portdirect | and then update them to add the required ips/hostnames to the /etc/hosts on each of the guests | 11:41 |
| trinaths | kude-deploy? | 11:41 |
| trinaths | which roles need this update ? | 11:41 |
| portdirect | you will need at a minium the centos repos, dockers rpm repo, quay.io, and gcr.io and dockers container repo | 11:42 |
| portdirect | I'd update this role: https://github.com/att-comdev/halcyon-kubernetes/blob/master/kube-deploy/roles/upgrade-os/tasks/centos.yml | 11:42 |
| portdirect | as it runs 1st | 11:42 |
| trinaths | portdirect: ok | 11:42 |
| portdirect | but I fear that you may have a lot of issues still | 11:43 |
| trinaths | portdirect: i issues are with TASK [upgrade-os : upgrade the entire system in preparation for next steps] | 11:43 |
| portdirect | as we have alwas made the assumption of have having working DNS | 11:43 |
| trinaths | in role upgrade-os | 11:43 |
| portdirect | yes read the error - its not able to find the yum repos | 11:43 |
| trinaths | portdirect: yes. | 11:44 |
| portdirect | as the vms are not able to resolve hostnames | 11:44 |
| portdirect | would it be possible to run this somewhere else where dns is permitted? | 11:44 |
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| trinaths | portdirect: okay. What is space and RAM requirements for this setup to run ? | 11:45 |
| portdirect | i run this on a workstation with 32gb ram, and 64gb ssd | 11:46 |
| portdirect | but it will run ok on a laptop with 16gb ram | 11:46 |
| trinaths | portdirect: :( | 11:46 |
| portdirect | what do you have? | 11:46 |
| portdirect | we can scale it down a bit | 11:47 |
| trinaths | portdirect: I'm using 16GB RAM workstation | 11:47 |
| portdirect | that should be fine | 11:47 |
| trinaths | portdirect: but in test network at office. | 11:47 |
| portdirect | right - can you run a small resolver on that workstation? | 11:47 |
| portdirect | dnsmasq or skynds? | 11:47 |
| portdirect | and then setup libvirt to use that? | 11:48 |
| portdirect | if you can i think that may be a better soltion than editing the snsible actually | 11:48 |
| portdirect | as im not sure how docker and kube is going to react without dns functional | 11:49 |
| trinaths | portdirect: ok | 11:49 |
| trinaths | portdirect: how will dnsmasq be used for libvirt? | 11:50 |
| portdirect | right - you will need to setup the default network to use the server you created - I cannot remember how to do do this off the top of my head | 11:51 |
| sdake | morning folks | 11:51 |
| portdirect | but tools like virt-manager should kale it pretty easy | 11:51 |
| portdirect | *make | 11:51 |
| portdirect | hey sdake | 11:51 |
| trinaths | portdirect: what is the minimum RAM requirement for this setup? | 11:52 |
| sdake | sup portdirect | 11:52 |
| trinaths | Hello sdake | 11:52 |
| portdirect | 16gb id say | 11:52 |
| sdake | hey there trinaths | 11:52 |
| trinaths | portdirect: okay. | 11:52 |
| portdirect | if you cut the number of vms you should be ok with 8 | 11:52 |
| trinaths | portdirect: as I look at the document, it takes 4 vms | 11:52 |
| sdake | trinaths the dev env will definately run with 32 gb, and should run with 16gb with the default 4 vms | 11:52 |
| portdirect | if you look int the config.rb file you can edit the params there | 11:53 |
| portdirect | sdake: you have any experience of running kolla without dns? | 11:53 |
| sdake | I think you can take it down to 8gb - and still have a functional test environemnt | 11:53 |
| sdake | portdirect air-gapped mode is difficult for kolla | 11:53 |
| sdake | kolla pulls stuff from all over the internets | 11:53 |
| sdake | kubernetes as well | 11:54 |
| portdirect | :( trinaths is tryingto set up halcyon in air-gapped network | 11:54 |
| trinaths | sdake portdirect : I have 16GB RAM machine at office. and I have 8GB RAM laptop (with virtual box installed) and 12GB RAM MAC (with virtual box) | 11:54 |
| sdake | all these things canbe made to use a local mirror | 11:54 |
| trinaths | on my own | 11:54 |
| trinaths | sdake: local mirror is a hard task | 11:54 |
| sdake | trinaths right | 11:55 |
| sdake | trinaths is it that you dont have dns, or that you don't have network at all in your office? | 11:55 |
| portdirect | no dns | 11:55 |
| portdirect | so not totally gapped :) | 11:55 |
| sdake | duonghq__ actually i believe runs with this type of environment (with mirrors instead) | 11:56 |
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| sdake | duonghq__ i don't know how he does it or how it was setup | 11:56 |
| trinaths | sdake portdirect: I have dns in our test network. but we have huge consumption there so packets get fropped | 11:56 |
| sdake | rather trinaths :) | 11:56 |
| sdake | trinaths a stern lecture to your network admin wouldn't help ? :) | 11:56 |
| trinaths | sdake: :D | 11:56 |
| sdake | ok jus tjoking around there | 11:57 |
| trinaths | sdake: ha ha.. we have given him even more. | 11:57 |
| sdake | i just woke up | 11:57 |
| trinaths | sdake: Good Monring | 11:57 |
| portdirect | if you have that - why not setup local chaching server - should be ok? | 11:57 |
| sdake | not really clear on what the best answer is | 11:57 |
| sdake | trinaths ya what portdirect just said should work | 11:57 |
| trinaths | portdirect: some tips for this local caching server .. | 11:58 |
| sdake | trinaths if you are air gapped, (meaning your internal lab has no external internets) thats a problem | 11:58 |
| portdirect | right - we are back to setting up dnsmasq | 11:58 |
| portdirect | I'm not able to wlk you though that as I'm pretty snowed under atm | 11:58 |
| portdirect | but there is a lot of info avalible on it | 11:59 |
| portdirect | :( sorry | 11:59 |
| portdirect | but i think that sounds like what you want if you just have flaky dns | 11:59 |
| trinaths | sdake: no my test lab has internet connectivity. but its a bit slow due to heavy traffic. | 11:59 |
| trinaths | portdirect: okay | 12:00 |
| sdake | trinaths slow network is different from flakey dns | 12:00 |
| sdake | trinaths where did the ide athat the dns was flkaey come from | 12:00 |
| sdake | trinaths for a caching dns server, give this a go: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=252362 | 12:01 |
| sdake | trinaths that should work well enough on centos | 12:01 |
| sdake | trinaths note I haven't personally tested those instructions however they look correct at initial glance | 12:02 |
| portdirect | sdake: to get as far as they did trinaths needed to add these to the hosts file on their ws: http://paste.openstack.org/show/596021/ | 12:02 |
| trinaths | sdake: sure. | 12:02 |
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| sdake | hashicorp | 12:03 |
| sdake | that is a one command operation | 12:03 |
| sdake | yum install vagrant | 12:03 |
| sdake | there should be no need to add it to the hosts file if dns is flakey | 12:03 |
| sdake | trinaths is it that your dns is flakey or not working? | 12:03 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l_: around? | 12:03 |
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| trinaths | sdake: its flakey | 12:04 |
| sdake | trinaths why did you add hashicorp to your hosts file? | 12:04 |
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| trinaths | sdake: initially it failed to resolve the host name. after few trials it succeeded | 12:05 |
| portdirect | sdake: the vagrant plugins and VM's download from hashicorp | 12:05 |
| portdirect | makes sense | 12:05 |
| sdake | portdirect oh duh -t hanks :) | 12:05 |
| trinaths | sdake: for that sake, I have added them. :) | 12:06 |
| sdake | sdake->bed :) | 12:06 |
| portdirect | l8rs sdake o/ | 12:06 |
| trinaths | sdake: :) | 12:07 |
| sdake | trinaths i am not reallly a network pro - if your resolv.conf entries for your node have unreliable results | 12:07 |
| sdake | trinaths what I'd suggest is placing 8.8.8.8 in /etc/resolv.conf | 12:07 |
| sdake | and removing your /etc/hsots changes (after keeping a copy) | 12:07 |
| portdirect | ^^^ if you can :) | 12:07 |
| sdake | trinaths what part of the world are you in | 12:08 |
| trinaths | sdake: i'm from india. | 12:08 |
| sdake | trinaths 8.8.8.8 should work for you | 12:08 |
| mliima | morning guys | 12:08 |
| trinaths | sdake: okay. will test that now. | 12:09 |
| sdake | https://www.quora.com/Which-public-DNS-is-best-for-India | 12:09 |
| sdake | sup mliima | 12:09 |
| sdake | trinaths thats alot faster then setting up a dns caching server | 12:09 |
| trinaths | sdake: :) | 12:10 |
| sdake | trinaths the problem isn't that your network is flakey - the problem is your upstream dns server is crappy :) | 12:10 |
| sdake | i mean your network may be flakey | 12:10 |
| sdake | but it sounds more like your dns is flakey | 12:10 |
| trinaths | sdake: I agree our dns is flakey. | 12:10 |
| sdake | 8.8.8.8 will fix that - dns from google is rockin | 12:11 |
| sdake | trinaths paste your resolv.conf when finished plz | 12:11 |
| trinaths | sdake: :) configured that way. need to check that. | 12:11 |
| trinaths | sdake: sure. | 12:11 |
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| trinaths | sdake: http://paste.openstack.org/show/596036/ | 12:13 |
| trinaths | still the same ansible error. at upgrade_os task | 12:13 |
| portdirect | remove the 127.0.0.1 entry | 12:13 |
| portdirect | thats unbound i think? | 12:14 |
| trinaths | portdirect: oh ok | 12:14 |
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| trinaths | there some magic going on. As previously it did not exit with the ansible error message. but still some process is running. | 12:16 |
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| trinaths | portdirect: thanks a lot for your time and help. I will update here once I win or loss | 12:19 |
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| portdirect | cheers :) if you learn anything that we should add to the docs me/and or sdake would be very keen to get it in | 12:20 |
| portdirect | hope you get it sorted :) | 12:20 |
| trinaths | portdirect: I have couple of suggestions to improve the doc which i'm as a newbee to bringup the environment. Will surely update the lessons learned. :) | 12:21 |
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| sdake_ | trinaths ya - or yo ucould submit a change for it yourself as well as to not bottleneck on me and portdirect :) | 12:22 |
| sdake_ | trinaths nameserver 127.0.0.1 will not typically work | 12:22 |
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| sdake_ | trinaths no idea why 127.0.0.1 would be configured as a nameserver by your os | 12:22 |
| trinaths | portdirect: upgrade-os TASK failed. but epel and ceph repo are done with warning http://paste.openstack.org/show/596041/ | 12:22 |
| sdake_ | trinaths those warnings are ok | 12:23 |
| sdake_ | trinaths although sloppy - maybe portdirect can fix that :) | 12:23 |
| trinaths | sdake_: okay. :) | 12:23 |
| portdirect | sdake_: ubuntu fun - I'd forgotten but it actually runs unbound, so there is a caching server already in place :/ | 12:23 |
| sdake_ | trinaths so first off, i'd kind of start over with vagrant destroy | 12:23 |
| trinaths | sdake_: doc changes are of minor priority | 12:24 |
| sdake_ | trinaths disagree, doc changes are the most crucial part of the project as they help ramp others up | 12:24 |
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| sdake_ | trinaths after vagrant destroy, i'd do a vagrant up again | 12:24 |
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| trinaths | sdake_: agree. | 12:24 |
| sdake_ | trinaths now that your dns is sanitary | 12:24 |
| trinaths | sdake_: but doc changes take up priority sidelined the core changes are well voted. | 12:25 |
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| sdake | ya our core reviewer team in genral slacks on doc change reviewers | 12:25 |
| sdake | no idea why that is | 12:26 |
| trinaths | sdake: its everywhere. | 12:26 |
| trinaths | sdake: but documentation is the fist entry point for new contributors. | 12:26 |
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| trinaths | sdake: still the same error. previously it installed epel and ceph repo. | 12:41 |
| trinaths | sdake: will try this at my home setup and let you know and portdirect know any win. | 12:41 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | mliima, could u review https://review.openstack.org/407416 ? | 14:49 |
| mliima | done Jeffrey4l_ | 14:50 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | thanks | 14:50 |
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| sdake | Jeffrey4l_ no clue | 15:12 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l_ kolla-kubernetes also doesn't work with docker 0.13 | 15:12 |
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| portdirect | sbezverk: o/ | 15:29 |
| portdirect | sbezverk: are you running kolla-k8s on your hardware atm? | 15:30 |
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| sbezverk | portdirect: o/ only some components | 15:38 |
| sbezverk | the ones I was working on. | 15:38 |
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| kbaegis | Is anyone else getting mariadb container saying something like "TypeError: Can't convert 'bytes' object to str implicitly" | 16:08 |
| kbaegis | kolla-ansible | 16:08 |
| kbaegis | Mariadb looks like it's up, but the connection checking is broken | 16:10 |
| kbaegis | Last message from mariadb: "WSREP: Synchronized with group, ready for connections" | 16:11 |
| egonzalez | kbaegis: ATM i don't have that message in my logs | 16:13 |
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| kbaegis | egonzalez: ty. I'm suspecting it might be the docker config | 16:14 |
| kbaegis | Evidently I had the bridge on a different subnet than the network docker was on | 16:15 |
| kbaegis | kolla-globals was saying 192.168.254, docker was saying 172.22.x | 16:15 |
| kbaegis | idk if that was causing the issues | 16:16 |
| des_consolado | I wonder how the frick I ended up with this SELinux shit locking down my /etc/kolla directory hmmm... | 16:16 |
| kbaegis | Should I bridge the docker0 interface directly to the interface declared in globals, or should it just be routable? | 16:17 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: did you ever figure out how to do local paths with a storage class? | 16:17 |
| portdirect | inno not yet - the minikube's localkube has it built in to fake pvc support, hence why its not shown :( | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Improve file handling with context manager https://review.openstack.org/422343 | 16:19 |
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| kbaegis | Well, I switched to the bridge networking :/ Let's see if that fixes this | 16:21 |
| des_consolado | kbaegis: my extremely limited and probably wrong understanding is that we don't use any of the Docker networking stuff, we use either the OVS or the Linux bridge. | 16:21 |
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| des_consolado | what are you trying to do exactly? Just to get kolla-ansible to deploy single node? Or multinode? Or what? | 16:21 |
| kbaegis | des_consolado: all-in-one | 16:21 |
| kbaegis | des_consolado: Somehow the ansible scripts aren't finding the mariadb service, despite the logs of the container indicating that it's up | 16:22 |
| kbaegis | Docker typically uses veth pairs plugged into a network docker controlls | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for designate https://review.openstack.org/424155 | 16:23 |
| kbaegis | If kolla is overriding that with the interfaces declared in kolla-globals, it's not very well documented what's happening there on the wiki | 16:23 |
| kbaegis | Maybe I should write something up, but I need to understand it first :) | 16:23 |
| des_consolado | I had this same struggle | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible: Change 1-subnet to public1-subnet in tools/init-runonce https://review.openstack.org/419309 | 16:24 |
| des_consolado | kbaegis: I don't know if this is suitable for your level, and there is probably misinformation here, I've since updated this doc on like where it actually lives but uhh https://gist.github.com/thomasodot/b866989b1ed523e9687ba0e461a67264 | 16:25 |
| des_consolado | was basically supposed to be a 'for idiots' thing for how to get the multinode thing up and running | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Fix the issue in multi-node.rst https://review.openstack.org/421054 | 16:25 |
| des_consolado | I've learned quite a lot since then in getting network connectivity from instances working | 16:26 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: ah. ok. | 16:26 |
| kfox1111 | bummer. :/ | 16:26 |
| des_consolado | but if you're just doing all in one that's different I guess | 16:26 |
| kbaegis | des_consolado: Figured out what happened. my neutron_external isn't link up | 16:26 |
| kbaegis | This is all my problem :) | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible: Remove hardcoded designate backend https://review.openstack.org/423233 | 16:26 |
| des_consolado | ah I had that problem, that was with getting instance external network connectivity tho | 16:27 |
| des_consolado | deployment didn't fail on that | 16:27 |
| des_consolado | I'm sure these playbooks must/should be setting the correct interfaces to actually be up (and on boot) at link layer... | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Typo fix: persistant => persistent https://review.openstack.org/423933 | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Removes unnecessary utf-8 encoding https://review.openstack.org/413897 | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Support rolling upgrades of horizon https://review.openstack.org/333996 | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: [WIP]Optimize reconfiguration for haproxy https://review.openstack.org/424156 | 16:51 |
| kbaegis | des_consolado: Well, setting the if up manually didn't fix. I can't even connect to the mariadb | 16:56 |
| kbaegis | From within the container | 16:56 |
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| kbaegis | 'docker exec mariadb mysql -h {{ kolla_internal_fqdn }} -P {{ mariadb_port }} -u haproxy -e 'show databases;'' | 16:57 |
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| kbaegis | 'Access denied for user 'haproxy'@'crucible' (using password: NO)' | 16:57 |
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| des_consolado | it just wants a password doesn't it | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Openvswitch Service package with kuberentes entrypoint https://review.openstack.org/424182 | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla: Add OpenDaylight Container to kolla https://review.openstack.org/416369 | 17:25 |
| jascott1 | good morning folks | 17:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: [WIP]Optimize reconfiguration for sahara https://review.openstack.org/424165 | 17:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for sahara https://review.openstack.org/424165 | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for magnum https://review.openstack.org/424162 | 17:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for panko https://review.openstack.org/424164 | 17:49 |
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| portdirect | hey jascott1 | 17:55 |
| portdirect | how is going? | 17:55 |
| portdirect | *it | 17:55 |
| jascott1 | it goes well... how about you? | 17:55 |
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| portdirect | no bad - back my my nice warm world of python , after a brief trip to the go darkside | 17:56 |
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| jascott1 | lol | 17:57 |
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| portdirect | though need to go back and get better skills | 17:57 |
| jascott1 | "Dont underestimate the POWER of the DARK SIDE" | 17:58 |
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| jascott1 | oh hey portdirect, did you find out about PTG? | 17:59 |
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| portdirect | nah :/ - so I'm assuming the burnt my application (with fire obviously) when i sent it in - so they need to buy a new mail server before telling me that they rejected it. | 18:01 |
| jascott1 | ah bummer. hope it works out | 18:01 |
| portdirect | though i may be over analyzing somewhat. | 18:01 |
| jascott1 | portdirect Im not 100% sure myself but am likely going, still waiting | 18:03 |
| portdirect | its fine - I'll be there via teleconference hopefully - which give the peeps that do make it the added bonus of being able to unplug me when they've had enough. | 18:03 |
| portdirect | hope you make is dude | 18:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for kuryr https://review.openstack.org/424161 | 18:04 |
| openstackgerrit | sayantani proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Fix bootstrap.yml in Bifrost https://review.openstack.org/424271 | 18:05 |
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| jascott1 | portdirect well unplugging is easier than dealing with tranquilizer darts | 18:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | sayantani proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Fix bootstrap.yml in Bifrost https://review.openstack.org/424271 | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla: Add OpenDaylight Container to kolla https://review.openstack.org/416369 | 18:22 |
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| berendt | 18:43:07 INFO:kolla.image.build.keystone-base: pkg_resources.VersionConflict: (packaging 16.7 (/var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages), Requirement.parse('packaging>=16.8')) | 18:43 |
| berendt | does somebody have the same issues at the moment when building ubuntu source images (newton branch) | 18:43 |
| mgkwill | Howdy all. | 18:43 |
| satyar | Hi jeffrey4l__ | 18:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Local registry in gate for trunk builds https://review.openstack.org/418550 | 18:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Support rolling upgrades of horizon https://review.openstack.org/333996 | 18:56 |
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| jascott1 | kfox1111 ping | 18:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for influxdb https://review.openstack.org/424159 | 18:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for kuryr https://review.openstack.org/424161 | 18:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for grafana https://review.openstack.org/424158 | 19:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for etcd https://review.openstack.org/424157 | 19:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfiguration for watcher https://review.openstack.org/424105 | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Local registry in gate for trunk builds https://review.openstack.org/418550 | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize reconfigure action for manila https://review.openstack.org/421365 | 19:24 |
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| mliima | can some kolla-ansible core review let a review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417094/? | 19:25 |
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| inc0 | hwy | 19:26 |
| inc0 | hey | 19:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla: Add ceph fs containers https://review.openstack.org/422950 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible: Remove precheck.yml in baremetal https://review.openstack.org/423585 | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible: Load murano dashboard dynamic https://review.openstack.org/402156 | 19:42 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, now when you took over registry patch, who will review it?;) | 19:42 |
| sdake | hey guys - i had an eye exam today | 19:43 |
| sdake | got dialoated | 19:43 |
| sdake | can't see anything | 19:43 |
| sdake | i dont even know if i'm in the right channel but it sort of looks like it | 19:43 |
| sdake | i see lots of 1111 so that must be kfox :) | 19:43 |
| inc0 | lol | 19:43 |
| sdake | anyway i'll be out untti the dilation resolves removes stops or whatever | 19:43 |
| sdake | damn can't een tpe | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Support rolling upgrades of horizon https://review.openstack.org/333996 | 19:44 |
| mliima | can some kolla-ansible core review let a review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417094/? | 19:45 |
| jascott1 | sdake http://data.whicdn.com/images/111266173/large.jpg | 19:45 |
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| sdake | i used to work with a guy who was tcompletely blind | 19:45 |
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| sdake | he wrote drivers for linux while blind to add a briale reader driver | 19:46 |
| sdake | he maintained the arm port of linux | 19:46 |
| sdake | he was a really cool dude | 19:46 |
| sdake | don't know how people can operate a computer without vision | 19:46 |
| sdake | was/is | 19:47 |
| jascott1 | yeah seems it would take an amazing amount of patience to wait on screenreader | 19:48 |
| inc0 | I'm horrible person...I thought of tcpdump | 19:48 |
| jascott1 | right ? whew | 19:48 |
| sdake | his name escapes me atm | 19:49 |
| inc0 | on the other hand, if someone could follow tcpdump in braille, this person would be my hero | 19:49 |
| sdake | alli see are big blck blogs and red blocks and blue blobs atm | 19:49 |
| inc0 | a real fricking superpower | 19:49 |
| sdake | i'm going to go listen to music i guess | 19:49 |
| sdake | ttyl | 19:49 |
| jascott1 | sdake good plan :) | 19:49 |
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| sdake | this dude wrote a linux driver - wher ether ewas none previously to do any output form the screen | 19:51 |
| sdake | how exactly do you do that :) | 19:51 |
| sdake | i asked him and he explaine it to me and i sort of forgot since it was 15 years ago i worked with him | 19:51 |
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| trinaths | sdake: with my mac system, I was able to bring the complete setup running. | 19:53 |
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| sbezverk | kfox1111: openvswitch is ready for review.. | 20:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Edmund Rhudy proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP]add support for docker-py 2.0.0+ https://review.openstack.org/424326 | 20:31 |
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| jemcevoy | I am having trouble on CentOS 7.3 getting a DHCP address and access to the metadata agent... I see there is a new kernel option: net.ipv4.conf.all.mc_forwarding=0 Could this be the problem? | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Local registry in gate for trunk builds https://review.openstack.org/418550 | 21:31 |
| erhudy | :q | 21:32 |
| erhudy | oops this is not vim | 21:32 |
| jascott1 | haha | 21:32 |
| inc0 | lmao | 21:32 |
| bmace_ | every program should support :q ;) | 21:33 |
| jascott1 | especially emacs | 21:33 |
| jascott1 | :D | 21:33 |
| erhudy | oh god the argument is beginning | 21:33 |
| jascott1 | lol | 21:33 |
| inc0 | I need to install vimperator | 21:34 |
| inc0 | and try it out at some point | 21:34 |
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| sdake | srwilkers_ sup - had eye exam today - my eyes are almost un-dialated | 21:36 |
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| sdake | klindgren apologie sfor not getting back to your email llast night - hit the wall | 21:37 |
| sdake | klindgren and today has been a fun-filled visit to the eye doctor | 21:38 |
| sdake | klindgren i'll respond tonight as soon s my eyes are working a little better | 21:38 |
| klindgren | its fine (makes me think of the this is fine cartoon) | 21:39 |
| klindgren | s/cartoon/comic | 21:39 |
| sdake | klindgren apparently there is some fine meme my kids talk about all the time | 21:39 |
| sdake | klindgren maybe its the same comic :) | 21:39 |
| klindgren | http://gunshowcomic.com/648 | 21:40 |
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| erhudy | inc0: mind if i run a thought by you | 21:42 |
| inc0 | erhudy, shoot | 21:42 |
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| erhudy | i was looking at the places where get-pip.py is used and i suspect it could probably be dropped entirely, i think its presence is a legacy of older linux distros that came with like pip 1.x, which was pretty broken | 21:43 |
| erhudy | both centos 7 and xenial come with pip 8.1.1 or 8.1.2 | 21:43 |
| sdake | klindgren ya thats the one - fine dog is what they call it | 21:43 |
| sdake | or maybe its my wife | 21:43 |
| erhudy | so i'd like to push a PR to switch pip installation to vendor packages by default in the places where get-pip.py is used right now | 21:44 |
| sdake | hard to tell the diffference sometimes :) | 21:44 |
| erhudy | he drew a "this is not fine" follow-up recently | 21:44 |
| inc0 | erhudy, we'd also need to check oraclelinux, but I'm sure pbourke would help with that | 21:44 |
| erhudy | sounds good, based on the mailing list it looks like debian support is RIP | 21:45 |
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| inc0 | but we do use virtualenv which should come in with pip too | 21:45 |
| inc0 | yeah, debian is rip as far as I'm concerned | 21:45 |
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| inc0 | it's been over a year when we were asking for anyone to write a gates for debian | 21:45 |
| inc0 | nobody did so to me means "nobody cares" | 21:45 |
| erhudy | yeah, we'd need to verify that pip/setuptools/virtualenv are all up to snuff, i don't think the option for get-pip.py should be eliminated, maybe just replace the block contents where get-pip currently appears with vendor packages | 21:46 |
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| erhudy | but if you want get-pip.py then it's still available | 21:46 |
| inc0 | I'd wait till somebody would give us compelling reason why to keep it | 21:46 |
| erhudy | it's a bit daft, they package pip up into this base85-encoded zipfile in get-pip.py... which then launches itself and tries to reach PyPI to download pip | 21:46 |
| inc0 | it's still possible to install it using overrrides | 21:46 |
| sdake | inc0 i think the issue with debian isn't the gates, its ore that nobody reallly maintains it or makes it work | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Edmund Rhudy proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP]add support for docker-py 2.0.0+ https://review.openstack.org/424326 | 21:49 |
| inc0 | sdake, gates is my first step towards maintenance | 21:49 |
| sdake | inc0 i don't know of anyone actually using debian | 21:49 |
| sdake | (for openstack + kolla) | 21:50 |
| inc0 | to me lack of gates == lack of support | 21:50 |
| inc0 | with exception of RHEL and such | 21:50 |
| inc0 | which is license based, and I know whom I can ask how RHEL fares:) isn't that right dmsimard?;) | 21:50 |
| inc0 | speaking of which, did you happen to look at 3rd party CI for rhel? | 21:51 |
| dmsimard | it's in my todo list, below a bunch of things :( | 21:51 |
| inc0 | yeah, no worries, just would totally love to have it | 21:51 |
| inc0 | anyway, debian - I have no clue who would care for it, so I won't | 21:52 |
| sdake | gotta jet to pick up son from school - then PTCs | 21:53 |
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| inc0 | yeah, I'm running for meeting too | 21:55 |
| inc0 | talk to you all later | 21:55 |
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| portdirect | so, see you guys in Atlanta ;D | 22:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP memcached operator https://review.openstack.org/418073 | 22:52 |
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| jascott1 | sbezverk mgiles can someone explain nova-control? | 22:55 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: ping | 23:00 |
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| jascott1 | kfox1111 hey hows it going | 23:00 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: the idea being you may need just one controller set of package,s but multiple nova-compute instances, one per host aggretgate. (differnet harware pools) | 23:01 |
| kfox1111 | it goes. how about you? | 23:01 |
| jascott1 | staring at values and requirements and still working on those terrific use cases ;) | 23:01 |
| kfox1111 | cool. | 23:02 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: I see constant failure on horizon check. do you mind to take a second look? | 23:02 |
| jascott1 | kfox1111 so it seems to really make it work, we might have to install microservices VIA the service package. meaning, if you only want microserviceX you need to install its parent service after editing values | 23:03 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: http://logs.openstack.org/82/424182/5/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-2-helm-entrypoint-nv/0fe59f7/console.html#_2017-01-23_22_10_51_858863 | 23:03 |
| jascott1 | (and disabling eveything you dont want) | 23:03 |
| inc0 | portdirect, you got funding? awesome | 23:04 |
| inc0 | get some good scotch | 23:04 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: I think thats the way service packages were intended? | 23:05 |
| inc0 | I'll need to make order (checking how much alcohol you can bring to us) | 23:05 |
| kfox1111 | or maybe I'm misunderstanding. | 23:05 |
| portdirect | yeah - need to get accommodation sorted - any suggestions | 23:05 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: yeah. | 23:05 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: sweet. looking forward to seeing you there. :) | 23:05 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: I saw that on one of my ps's too. | 23:06 |
| kfox1111 | maybe we just hit a race before and managed to make it through. :/ | 23:06 |
| kfox1111 | thats one risk with having only one iteration of the gate tests. :/ | 23:07 |
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| kfox1111 | sbezverk: seems like it may need a set +e / set -e around it. | 23:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Gate fix for horizon and cinder https://review.openstack.org/424368 | 23:12 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: there is still a chance that the issue is with openvswitch, but I have seen similar issue earlier too, so I ma not so sure.. | 23:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla: Add OpenDaylight Container to kolla https://review.openstack.org/416369 | 23:13 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: yeah. I saw it on one of my ps's too. | 23:14 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, sooo...https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418550/ | 23:14 |
| kfox1111 | pretty sure https://review.openstack.org/424368 will fix that. | 23:14 |
| inc0 | half of gates succeed in same thing as other failed on | 23:14 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I think I got the deletion logic backwards. | 23:15 |
| kfox1111 | != instead of ==. | 23:15 |
| openstack | kfox1111: Error: "=" is not a valid command. | 23:15 |
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| kfox1111 | its all the multinode ones that are failing. | 23:15 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: when you have time, I would like to have another operator related discussion, maybe tomorrow? | 23:16 |
| kfox1111 | and thats becuase I tried to share the remote downloaded tar with the slave. but I think it got deleted. | 23:16 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: k. sounds good. | 23:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Local registry in gate for trunk builds https://review.openstack.org/418550 | 23:17 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I think that might fix it. | 23:17 |
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| inc0 | k let's see | 23:17 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: finished basic functions need your input | 23:18 |
| kfox1111 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418550/39..40/tools/setup_registry.sh :) | 23:18 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: cool. :) | 23:18 |
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| jascott1 | kfox1111 my point is it looks like this 'helm install neutron' and never this 'helm install neutron-server'. you control which microservices get installed via values | 23:22 |
| kfox1111 | never is not an option. | 23:24 |
| sbezverk | jascott1: with this approach we will end up either bunch of release-names for parent package | 23:24 |
| inc0 | kfox by never we meant something like helm install neutron --only-service neutron-server | 23:24 |
| kfox1111 | service packages are fine as an orchestration system, but the requirements of human operators or k8s operators are different. | 23:24 |
| kfox1111 | -1 | 23:25 |
| sbezverk | jascott1: or it will not even work as you cannot have the same release name | 23:25 |
| kfox1111 | I don't want to have a huge ton of disabled code that coudl possibly brake my system if helm's installing just one little thing and has a bug. | 23:25 |
| kfox1111 | microservices provide a firewall from helm bugs. | 23:26 |
| sdake_ | microcharts you mean? | 23:26 |
| sdake_ | sorry to jump in and then I have to jump out to go feed my kids | 23:26 |
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| sdake | srwilkers_ if your around -i'm available :) | 23:26 |
| kfox1111 | having a chart per microservice, isntead of one huge chart with disables. | 23:27 |
| sdake | i like the microchart model alot - but not as a firewall against helm bugs | 23:27 |
| sdake | it is more decomposed | 23:27 |
| kfox1111 | we have a seperation of concerns right now. | 23:27 |
| kfox1111 | orchestration is in service packages, object deployment in microservice. | 23:27 |
| sdake | who cares about firewall against helm bugs - helm will eventually figure the bugs out | 23:27 |
| kfox1111 | you can use the lower level one without the other. | 23:27 |
| portdirect | sdake: +1 | 23:27 |
| sdake | yup - I like the model we have | 23:27 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: its an operator trust thing. | 23:27 |
| kfox1111 | trust is earned. | 23:28 |
| sdake | kfox1111 depends on philosophy | 23:28 |
| sdake | kfox1111 mine is to trust until given reason not to | 23:28 |
| kfox1111 | firewalls/(bulkheads?) are added to an engineered system to prevent things from going disasteriously wrong. | 23:28 |
| sdake | your is trust is earned | 23:28 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: differetce between dev an ops. | 23:28 |
| sdake | eveyrone has differnet philosophies so lets leave that out of it for the moment :) | 23:28 |
| jascott1 | kfox1111 anyting is possible with build scripts but i dont see helm covering both those cases you gave me natively | 23:28 |
| sdake | thats like talking about who shoudla been president :) | 23:28 |
| sdake | jascott1 what were the two cases - iw as dced apparently | 23:29 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: yeah. my point being, there will be some set that require that functionality. I'm one of them. | 23:29 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: I don't know why they have to be muturally exclusive. | 23:29 |
| sdake | the technical reason for microcharts is that they are atomic in nature | 23:29 |
| jascott1 | neutron and glance each with own rabbit and mariadb and other was same but with shared queue and db | 23:29 |
| sdake | they provide good decomposition | 23:29 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: that is another reason. | 23:30 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: plus manual, super fine grained orchestration is a 3rd. | 23:30 |
| portdirect | what jascott1 / inc0 proposed woul provide a similar level of demposition i think | 23:30 |
| sdake | manual + automatic | 23:30 |
| inc0 | but supporting umbrella chart AND subcharts gonna be problematic | 23:30 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: yes, but with higher risk. | 23:30 |
| inc0 | yeah, manipulate it with values | 23:31 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: why? | 23:31 |
| portdirect | kfox1111: i actually think the opposite | 23:31 |
| sdake | it should theoretically easier to support inc0 | 23:31 |
| sdake | since each unit can be tewsewted indivdually | 23:31 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, because we have 2 sets of logic | 23:31 |
| inc0 | 2 sets of logic is harder than one | 23:31 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: there are going to be more then 2 sets of logic. garanteed. | 23:31 |
| inc0 | then I'd love to limit it as much as I can | 23:32 |
| sdake | here is the deal guys | 23:32 |
| inc0 | and in this case, I think we can achieve correct functionality using service charts + values | 23:32 |
| sbezverk | for our specific case this approach unfortunately brings more issues.. | 23:32 |
| jascott1 | so the argument against installing the microservice directly without going thru parent service is that you have to disable the sister microservices if you dont want them | 23:32 |
| kfox1111 | minimum is: 1. manual orchestration. 2. helm+kubernetes-entrypoint, 3. manual orchestration. | 23:32 |
| sdake | we are wastign all kinds of time arguing about how to optimize (prematurely) for support/implementation/etc | 23:32 |
| jascott1 | ? | 23:32 |
| inc0 | (assuming we have way to easily manipulate requirements) | 23:32 |
| kfox1111 | if tripleo gets on board, maybe 4. heat. | 23:32 |
| portdirect | if we work on the assumption that helm is primarily a tempting engine - then having a common package to call the templates from reduces the risk of versioning incompatibility etc massively | 23:32 |
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| sdake | instead if we develop an implementation that works, we can refactor it as necessary | 23:33 |
| sdake | this is the whole point of refactoring | 23:33 |
| sdake | that is why there are books on it :) | 23:33 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: we solved that in the global api with the seachPath. | 23:33 |
| sdake | i can't tell you how manny times other parts of kolla hve been refactored | 23:33 |
| inc0 | but this is about what do we support | 23:33 |
| jascott1 | solved what? | 23:33 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: one value, can affect multiple packages. | 23:33 |
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| sdake | we dont support anything inc0 - 1.0.0 hasn't been released | 23:34 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: that assumes one chart heirchy will work for everyone | 23:34 |
| sdake | even then, support isn't really an upsteram thing | 23:34 |
| sdake | thats aa downstream thing | 23:34 |
| inc0 | sdake... we need to decide on our API | 23:34 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: I'm not to the point where I can belive that. | 23:34 |
| sdake | inc0 api is locked in at 1.0.0 not before | 23:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Openvswitch Service package with kuberentes entrypoint https://review.openstack.org/424182 | 23:34 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: party's quite split on orchestration. | 23:34 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: the only path forward is to provide a common base we all can work on, and let each decide how to implement orchetration on top. | 23:35 |
| jascott1 | so running a one off script to setup values for that individial microservice is somehow better than using the parent service as an entryppoint? idk | 23:35 |
| kfox1111 | thats what microservices were about. | 23:35 |
| sbezverk | inc0: new API??? we already have one and use it, what is wrong with it? | 23:35 |
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| inc0 | kfox1111, agree, however saying that helm install neutron and helm install neutron-server is both possible, it's going to complicate things | 23:35 |
| jascott1 | when I could have a values.yaml in version control that just works? | 23:35 |
| sdake | here is the deal | 23:35 |
| sdake | WE HAVE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES WITH THE F ACT THAT DEPLOYMENT IS NOT DOCUMENTED | 23:36 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I don't believe there is any other option to not fracture the kolla-kubernetes community. | 23:36 |
| sdake | AND PEOPLE ARE ARGUING ABOUT HWO TO OPTIMIZE OUR IMPLEMENTATION FOR HELM USAGE | 23:36 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: +1 | 23:36 |
| sdake | THAT IS REDICULOUS | 23:36 |
| sdake | ok sorry for the caps | 23:36 |
| jascott1 | haha | 23:36 |
| portdirect | WHAT DID YOU SAY | 23:36 |
| sdake | lets focus on the big problems first plz | 23:36 |
| sdake | not stuff that is down teh road | 23:36 |
| jascott1 | I SAID HAHA | 23:36 |
| portdirect | very good point though | 23:36 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, hold on now, we need to figure out something that's easy for 90% of people and possible for 99% - with extra work if needed | 23:37 |
| portdirect | sdake: have you managed to get any joy running outside of gate? | 23:37 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: thats services / microservices perhaps. | 23:37 |
| kfox1111 | or operators / microservices. | 23:37 |
| sdake | portdirect i tried this morning before dr appointment - ran into an error with memcache and genconfig | 23:37 |
| kfox1111 | microservices provide a place where multiple teams can work together to share the plumbing. | 23:37 |
| sdake | portdirect if people spent less time arguing and more time testing the outside-the-gate deploy we would be a whole lot further along | 23:37 |
| portdirect | +1000 | 23:38 |
| kfox1111 | +1 | 23:38 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, but question, why helm install neutron --values install-only=neutron-server would be bad? | 23:38 |
| sdake | then we could refactor at will, because we would *ALL* know how the code works | 23:38 |
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| sdake | inc0 that is an optimization | 23:38 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: yes, because I can't not garantee it wont touch neutron-openvswitch-agent. | 23:38 |
| kfox1111 | I don't want to take on that risk. | 23:38 |
| sdake | inc0 again we have fundamental problems | 23:38 |
| sdake | inc0 deployment isn't documented | 23:38 |
| sdake | inc0 we need to fix that | 23:38 |
| sbezverk | inc0: amongst other reason, you will end up with bunch of parent release names | 23:38 |
| sdake | inc0 if we fix that, the nyou will actually understand how all this stuff works | 23:39 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: you will end up that way anyway with microservices. I'm ok with that. | 23:39 |
| sdake | i can tell you i've been trying to document it for over a week almost full time | 23:39 |
| sdake | and have no idea how any of it works | 23:39 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, hold on now, we can't ASSUME faulty helm | 23:39 |
| sdake | that is critical fire #1 | 23:39 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: but at least you will have logical hierachy | 23:39 |
| inc0 | we can work on stuff I proposed ONLY IF it's written into helm and works well | 23:39 |
| sdake | focus on fires now, not wood laying around that could catch fire later | 23:39 |
| portdirect | and makes this conversation irreilvant | 23:40 |
| sdake | which does portdirect | 23:40 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: sure we can. clusters were built to assume harware will fail, and make it possible to continue running. | 23:40 |
| kfox1111 | they also assume sometimes sofware will fail. | 23:40 |
| portdirect | if we cannot run outside of the gate this is just a science experiment regardless of how its put together | 23:40 |
| sdake | portdirect *1000000000 | 23:41 |
| kfox1111 | k8s was built very much to assume stuff will fail and try to "self heal" it. | 23:41 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: +1 | 23:41 |
| portdirect | that should be our number 1 prority | 23:41 |
| sdake | portdirect its my #1 priority | 23:41 |
| sdake | I hope I infect others with it as well :) | 23:41 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, we can't base on helm and assume it's not working | 23:41 |
| sdake | this whole conversation is bikeshedding until people actually figure out how kolla-kubernets works today | 23:41 |
| inc0 | if it's not working, we fix it | 23:41 |
| kfox1111 | my priority number 1 is getting it finished enough and stable neough to get it running on our test hardware so I can continue to get paid to work on it. | 23:42 |
| sdake | kfox1111 i am not talking about your personal priorities i am talking about deliverable priorities | 23:42 |
| portdirect | kfox1111: i see you are putting in pr fro seamless upgrades of horizon - are you able to test that outside of the gate at the moment? | 23:42 |
| sdake | for exampe kolla-ansible has over 180+ bugs open | 23:42 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I do not want to mix uswe cases. orchestration != templating. the same tool COULD be used for both, but shouldn't be REQUIRED to be. | 23:42 |
| sdake | that should be priority #1 for kolla-ansible deliverable | 23:42 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: sure. just putting it out there though. | 23:42 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, does helm has our equivalent to --template-only? | 23:43 |
| sdake | the kolla deliverable itself is in good shaep | 23:43 |
| portdirect | inc0: yes | 23:43 |
| inc0 | wouldn't that fix your problem? | 23:43 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: I don't have test hardware quite yet. so my priorities are getting the base solid. | 23:43 |
| inc0 | like, check templates before it does stuff? | 23:43 |
| portdirect | inc0: just added in master afaik | 23:43 |
| sdake | inc0 if you want to fix problems, figur eout how to deploy kolla-kubernetes | 23:43 |
| sdake | and start writing code ;) | 23:43 |
| portdirect | and possible via plugin easily | 23:43 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: whats --template-only do? | 23:43 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, outputs rendered templates somewhere | 23:44 |
| portdirect | same as --debug --dry-run | 23:44 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: sort of, but not really. | 23:44 |
| portdirect | it has that now kfox | 23:44 |
| sdake | inc0 must have me on ignore because of my capslock rant | 23:44 |
| kfox1111 | --debug --dry-run is a super set of --template-only. | 23:44 |
| sdake | ok - well since nobody is listening, i'm going to dinner | 23:44 |
| portdirect | helm template is a thing | 23:44 |
| kfox1111 | it cant just be loaded int kubectl create -f | 23:44 |
| sdake | enjoy the pointless argument :) | 23:44 |
| sdake | thats me being passive aggressive btw. :) | 23:44 |
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| inc0 | sdake, I don't, I just don't want to immediatly answer to you, because I'm having different discussion at this very moment;) | 23:45 |
| inc0 | nvm, maybe good that he left before reading it;) | 23:45 |
| inc0 | so kfox1111 what I'm saying is, you want to use helm as templating mechanism, and that's totally fine | 23:46 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I don't ever think the microservice stuff can be munged into the tree structure you are trying to get it into anyway. | 23:46 |
| kfox1111 | the same templates need to be merged into multiple servce packages. | 23:46 |
| portdirect | kfox1111: sorry im wrong it's still a plugin https://asciinema.org/a/8kuehzpx5xyl8cm3cairica8z | 23:46 |
| kfox1111 | the helm folks even said on multiple calls they like our microservie package idea. | 23:46 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, I'm not super bound to tree structure, but we can explore it later too | 23:47 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: ah. interesting. | 23:47 |
| inc0 | what I'm saying is, if helm would have robust --template-only/dry-run/don't touch anything before I see what you're going to do | 23:47 |
| inc0 | would that ease your mind kfox1111 ? | 23:47 |
| jascott1 | it really already has that | 23:48 |
| kfox1111 | it would make it slightly more at ease. but would make more work for those that do not want service packages. | 23:48 |
| inc0 | kfox1111, 90% of people will want them | 23:48 |
| inc0 | and we need it to be super nice for them | 23:48 |
| kfox1111 | you want them. I don't agree with your proportions. | 23:48 |
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| kfox1111 | 90% want automated orcehestration. | 23:48 |
| kfox1111 | the jury is still out if that looks like helm+kubernetes+entrypoint, or operators, or somethign else. | 23:49 |
| kfox1111 | so far it seems about 50%/50% for helm+kubernetes+entrypoint/operators. | 23:49 |
| inc0 | well, having helm install kolla/nova would have a really nice flair tbh | 23:49 |
| kfox1111 | I agree. | 23:49 |
| kfox1111 | but upgrading that will be ugly. | 23:49 |
| inc0 | having service packages would give us single structure we would work on | 23:50 |
| kfox1111 | and that can be done, with microservies and a service package. | 23:50 |
| kfox1111 | it has one. | 23:50 |
| kfox1111 | dude. look in the tree today. | 23:50 |
| kfox1111 | helm/service/neutron/ | 23:50 |
| inc0 | ok, nvm kfox1111, we can discuss it later, I just don't want to end up in situation when "helm might be broken" would drive our arch decisions | 23:51 |
| kfox1111 | its launched jut like you want: | 23:51 |
| kfox1111 | https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/blob/master/tests/bin/ceph_workflow_service.sh#L246 | 23:51 |
| kfox1111 | its working, in the gate, right now. | 23:51 |
| kfox1111 | thats one reason, but not the only one. | 23:51 |
| inc0 | ok, let's tackle reasons one by one, this first one, would that be mitigated by robust dry run mechanism for helm? | 23:52 |
| kfox1111 | it could be, provided a human was carefully reviewion the output. | 23:52 |
| kfox1111 | which is a lot of work. | 23:52 |
| jascott1 | i dont see how dry run could be more robust | 23:52 |
| kfox1111 | a human doesn't to as much to launch a microservice. | 23:52 |
| jascott1 | they have to run a prebuild script | 23:53 |
| kfox1111 | most users wont ever see the git repo. | 23:53 |
| kfox1111 | they will be able to use prebuilt binary packages. | 23:53 |
| jascott1 | oh these super special single microservice users will | 23:53 |
| kfox1111 | thats the helm native way. | 23:53 |
| portdirect | jascott1: is on the money here | 23:53 |
| kfox1111 | no, I'll be launching from prebuilt's too if at all possible. | 23:54 |
| kfox1111 | just microservices, not services. | 23:54 |
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| portdirect | kfox1111: remember that you built them - so you have been into git more than anyone, of course they will work out of the box for your site ;) | 23:55 |
| kfox1111 | yup. but I also built them specifically so that they coudl be consumed as binaries, not as source. | 23:55 |
| kfox1111 | that goes a long way. | 23:55 |
| jascott1 | so Im just trying to accomodate those use cases WITH MODIFICATIONS to helm | 23:56 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: I appreciate that, but I think the aproach is wrong. | 23:56 |
| portdirect | possibly - but an operator with your level of attention will want into the source as well i think - but we are both postulating here | 23:56 |
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| jascott1 | kfox1111 any ideas then? | 23:56 |
| kfox1111 | I don't see why it MUST be a requirement to force the nonexistance of microservice packages. | 23:56 |
| jascott1 | its not that they wouldnt exist, the control is just shifted up | 23:57 |
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| kfox1111 | portdirect: yeah. I know there weill be times i will have to build one or two packages from source. but I don't want to carry all of them if I can help it. | 23:57 |
| portdirect | no ones saying that - its just that the appetite for developing them is not so great (speaking personally) | 23:57 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: I want ultimate control. helm microservices provide that. the proposed solution doesnt. | 23:57 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: I origionally recommended we generate all the microservice boiler plate so that it was much easier to manage. I was shot down due to it not being "helm native" | 23:58 |
| kfox1111 | we can't have it both ways. :/ | 23:58 |
| jascott1 | i think same could be said here | 23:58 |
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