Wednesday, 2016-12-07

kfox1111arg...00:00
kfox1111so close....00:00
sean-k-mooneyill leave it run over night i guess. catch everyone tomorow00:00
sbezverk_kfox1111: by some reason multinode failed again, but all single nodes worked..00:00
kfox1111hmm... the pv was still created with the docker ip:00:01
kfox1111http://logs.openstack.org/22/405422/45/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-ceph-multi-nv/e51f217/console.html#_2016-12-06_23_47_02_91950500:01
sbezverk_kfox1111: yep00:01
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Pavoevening00:01
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Pavoso.... having an issue with setting in the inventory file on kolla-ansible00:03
kfox1111is gerrit having issues for anyone else?00:04
Pavoit says in the file that you can, # When compute nodes and control nodes use different interfaces, you can specify "api_interface" and another interfaces like below: compute01 neutron_external_interface=eth0 api_interface=em1 storage_interface=em1 tunnel_interface=em100:04
kfox1111hmm... finally went through...00:05
sbezverk_kfox1111: yep it was unresponsive for few minutes00:05
kfox1111oh. I see the problem.00:05
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Pavoso I tried to put under [control] section controllernode neutron_external_interface=eth1 to use eth1 as the interface for neutron but it didn't work00:06
Pavoit used the neutron_external_interface= setting that is set in globals00:06
Pavoanyone have any suggestions?00:06
kfox1111sbezverk_: commented inline00:06
srwilkers_sayantan_, internets being extremely dodgy at work. working on that doc review but might have to postpone finishing it if things dont clear up. :)00:07
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Pavoor is that setting only for compute nodes and not controllernode?00:08
sayantan_srwilkers_ No rush :)00:08
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming Rabbitmq  https://review.openstack.org/40542200:14
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Terms  https://review.openstack.org/40777100:15
sbezverk_kfox1111: if you need to override port then I need to store monitor list in X.X.X.X:6789 format, or you want a separate variable for port?00:17
kfox1111each mon could potentially have a different port....00:18
kfox1111what about the contains function?00:18
kfox1111something like: {{ if contains ":" . }} {{ . | quote}} {{ else }} {{ printf "%s:6789" . | quote }}00:20
kfox1111sbezverk_: whats a helm template?00:21
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sbezverk_kfox1111: do we really need to go that deep ??00:21
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openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: Minor documentation fixes  https://review.openstack.org/40653400:21
kfox1111what do you meen deep? its just a single if/else statement.00:21
kfox1111are you asking if we should support cephs's that have non standard mon ports?00:23
sbezverk_kfox1111: right I meant, usually people try to follow a specific format X.X.X.X or X.X.X.X:PPPP00:23
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sbezverk_kfox1111: mixing these might be confusing00:23
kfox1111sbezverk_: yeah. all that if does is tack on the default port if you don't specify one.00:23
kfox1111so you can use either format.00:23
kfox1111though, I think if ou don't specify one, ceph itself might just use the default port.00:24
kfox1111so doing nothing but {{ . | quote }} might work in all cases I guess.00:24
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sbezverk_kfox1111:  hm never tried but to be on the safe side I will add if00:25
kfox1111k. thx.00:25
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kfox1111sbezverk_: how about this:00:32
kfox1111 * Template - Source code that, when processed by Helm along with Values00:32
kfox1111              passed during instantiaton, creates the final Kubernetes object.00:32
kfox1111              It is provided as part of a Chart and compiled into a Package.00:32
sbezverk_kfox1111: looks really good00:34
kfox1111cool.00:35
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Terms  https://review.openstack.org/40777100:35
sbezverk_kfox1111: where did you find "contains" function in helm? I could not find any references to its existence..00:36
sbezverk_kfox1111: I am not syain it does not exist, I just hope that place you used has info for other interesting functions00:36
kfox1111bmace: I keep going back to: https://github.com/kubernetes/helm/blob/master/docs/charts.md00:37
kfox1111ther's a section:00:37
kfox1111"Helm Chart templates are written in the Go template language, with the addition of 50 or so add-on template functions from the Sprig library and a few other specialized functions."00:37
kfox1111with a link here: https://github.com/Masterminds/sprig00:37
kfox1111most of the goodies are in there. :)00:37
sbezverk_kfox1111: it worked finally.. SO I am goint to ack you ps then rebase and final clean up for rabbitmq00:38
bmacei assume the bmace: part of that message was in error kfox1111? :)00:38
kfox1111bmace: yeah. sorry. bad tab on paste.00:39
bmacekk, np... :)00:39
srwilkers_sayantan_, going to find stable internet. ran through most of it and posted a few comments. will probably add more once i can finish the work through00:39
srwilkers_cheers :)00:39
kfox1111sbezverk_: k. :)00:39
kfox1111sbezverk_: then I'll go do one final review. everything looked pretty good when I skimmed it last, but havent really looked closely yet.00:40
sayantan_Thank you srwilkers_ . I'll take a look at the comments. appreciate it :)00:40
sbezverk_kfox1111: great I would like to close rabbitmq tonight00:41
kfox1111sbezverk_: +1.00:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add ceph values for gate  https://review.openstack.org/40767200:44
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jascott1so element_name it is. wfm00:45
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openstackgerritzhangshuai proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Add karbor ansible role  https://review.openstack.org/40222900:54
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming Rabbitmq  https://review.openstack.org/40542200:54
openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Fix different repo issue for documentation  https://review.openstack.org/40505400:55
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Hel-ming Rabbitmq  https://review.openstack.org/40542200:56
sbezverk_kfox1111: jascott1: I changed rabbitmq ps for element_name and som other clean up.. please review when you have time00:56
kfox1111k. will do that asap.00:56
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kfox1111Just finising off another revision of terms.00:56
duonghqany core around?01:01
duonghq(kolla docker core)01:01
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Terms  https://review.openstack.org/40777101:02
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778001:03
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kfox1111sbezverk_: I had previously started reviewion ps 46, so I finished that review. then I'll go through the newest.01:07
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openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Implement Keystone zero-downtime upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/40521501:16
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Pull kube-system images as part of CNI setup  https://review.openstack.org/40778801:23
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Hel-ming Rabbitmq  https://review.openstack.org/40542201:31
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778001:32
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sbezverk_kfox1111: I think I addressed most of your comments, the only one I am not so sure is rabbit cluster cookie. I think there should be one in the config file as if it only exist as a cli parameter, it will get lost..01:33
kfox1111yeah. but if its set, and a user forgets, it can cause two elements to join together in the same cluster unexpectedly. :/01:34
kfox1111so, user launches nova-rabbit, and neutron-rabbit and doesn't override the cookie on one of them, they may end up in a cluster together.01:34
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kfox1111is it valid to put it in the values as:01:35
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kfox1111rabbit_cookie:01:35
kfox1111with no value?01:35
kfox1111it should end up not being assigned a value then, but is still discoverable.01:35
sbezverk_kfox1111: I do not know, both approaches causes issues.. the only reason I kind of for putting it there, is to be in line with kolla01:36
kfox1111do they default it to something?01:37
kfox1111(they don't support multi instance rabbit though, so we're already doing something different)01:37
sbezverk_yep01:37
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sbezverk_kfox1111: ok I will remove value and add rabbit_cluster_cookie to the command line, but if people complain I will tell them it is your fault ;-)01:40
kfox1111sbezverk_: heh. I'm sure they will complain about manually orchestrating microservices anway. thats a layer the majority of the folks never want to see anyway.01:41
kfox1111but thats what operators/service packages are for. to hide that stuff.01:41
kfox1111k. gota head out.01:43
kfox1111will try and check back later.01:43
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openstackgerritprameswar proposed openstack/kolla: QSG updated for shared volumes  https://review.openstack.org/40706101:47
sbezverk_kfox1111: ttyl01:55
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Hel-ming Rabbitmq  https://review.openstack.org/40542202:01
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sdakeyo peeps02:08
portdirect_yo sdake02:08
duonghqhey sdake02:08
sdakesup portdirect_02:08
sdakesup duonghq02:08
duonghqI just fly over our code base, seem that we need some kind of bp which purpose is apply upgrade mechanism from OpenStack service in Kolla02:09
duonghqwe lack at least neutron and Keystone02:10
duonghqbp or bugs02:10
duonghqI don't sure02:10
sdakeduonghq do you mean kolla-kubernetes?02:11
duonghqsdake, no, just kolla-ansible and dockerfile02:12
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sdakekolla-ansible has upgrades02:12
sdakedo you mean some upgrades are not implemented?02:12
duonghqsdake, moment, I'm finding the neutron upgrade guide02:13
duonghqsdake, according to this link http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/migration-database.html02:13
duonghqthe neutron db migration contains $ neutron-db-manage upgrade --expand and --contract02:14
sdakeif you think action is needed file a blueprint :)02:16
sdakeyour part of the drivers group right?02:16
duonghqright, but I don't sure it's worth a bp or just a bugs02:17
duonghqI filed a bug about Keystone case02:17
sdakedunno - bug triage goes poorly in our project unfortunately02:17
duonghqbut seem that it's affect other services too02:17
sdakeapproved blueprints get more attention02:17
duonghqroger02:18
duonghqsdake, but the bp don't have "also affect" like bugs?02:19
sdakeis srwilkers about?02:19
sdakeduonghq really up to you - if your going to work on it personally you can use bugs or blueprints - whatever your pleasure02:20
Pavoevening sdake02:20
sdakeif not, blueprints again get mre attention from the dev team :)02:20
sdakesup pavo02:20
sdakeportdirect_ are you on the kolla-kubernetes-drivers team?02:20
Pavohad an issue with kolla-ansible and inventory file today02:20
Pavoit says in the file that you can, # When compute nodes and control nodes use different interfaces, you can specify "api_interface" and another interfaces like below: compute01 neutron_external_interface=eth0 api_interface=em1 storage_interface=em1 tunnel_interface=em102:21
Pavoso I tried to put under [control] section controllernode neutron_external_interface=eth1 to use eth1 as the interface for neutron but it didn't work02:21
Pavoit used the neutron_external_interface= setting that is set in globals02:21
Pavoor is that setting only for compute nodes and not controllernode?02:21
portdirect_sdake: nope02:23
openstackgerritqiankun.zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Install tacker-horizon  into horizon image Closes-Bug: #1647894  https://review.openstack.org/40781002:24
openstackbug 1647894 in kolla "tacker-horizon is not loaded when enabled tacker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1647894 - Assigned to qiankun.zhang (qiankun.zhang)02:24
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778002:26
sbezverk_kfox1111: when you back please check I hope final version. the gate is all green..02:27
Pavoany ideas sdake?02:30
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duonghqsdake,  can you review the bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/apply-service-upgrade-procedure02:34
sdakei was afk, reading scrollback02:34
portdirect_sbezverk_: nice work with rabbit - its looking good dude. I've got a ps that should fix one of the intermitant gate issues you've seen if you have a chance to look at it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407788/02:34
sdakeportdirect_ happy to invite you - its not a voting thing or any of that02:34
sdakeportdirect_ anyone is pretty much welcome in the drivers group that shows interest in a particular deliverable02:35
sdakein terms of reviews or code02:35
sdakeportdirect_ drivers group allows you to admin launchpad02:35
sdakeportdirect_ triage bugs, move around blueprints02:35
sdakeblueprint approval generally reserved for the core reviewer team02:35
portdirect_sdake: that would be cool - up for getting involved wherever I can be useful :)02:35
sdakecool whats your launchpad id02:36
sdakepavo will be with you in a moment :)02:36
sdakeduonghq same :)02:36
portdirect_can I get a digest/summary of bugs emailed to me?02:36
sdakeportdirect_ i'm sure there is a way to do that - but not certain02:36
sdakeportdirect_ drivers team is self-admining as well, you can always disable yourself later if you like02:37
portdirect_sdake: my id is portdirect on launchpad02:37
duonghqportdirect_, you want to subscribe to the bug update?02:37
sdakecool moment02:37
sdakei dont like to guess on that :)02:37
portdirect_duonghq: that would be great02:38
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duonghqportdirect_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla -> in the right column, "Subscribe to bug mail" link, also for kolla-ansible and kolla-kubernetes if you like02:39
sdakeok apvo - let me look at blueprint real quick - i read your report - and don't hvae any ideas off top of my head but it will take me more time to process02:39
sdakepavo ^02:40
Pavook no problem02:40
portdirect_duonghq: thanks man :)02:40
duonghqsdake, thanks02:41
sdakepavo no idea really02:43
sdakepavo i think what would be cool is to ask that quesetion on ask.openstack.org02:43
sdakepavo and i'll make sure it gets answered there02:44
sdakethat way we can build up a record of Q&A02:44
Pavoonly thing I could think of is that that setting is only for compute nodes02:44
Pavook will do02:44
sdakeok need to play IT professional with my parents computers02:44
* sdake groan02:44
sdakes02:44
sdakebbl02:44
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openstackgerritZeyu Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize the code  https://review.openstack.org/40781502:49
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: TEST NEW GATE_RUN.SH SCRIPT  https://review.openstack.org/40781902:59
openstackgerritqiankun.zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Enable tacker-horizon when enable_tacker is yes  https://review.openstack.org/40782203:02
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778003:03
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openstackgerritqiankun.zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Install tacker-horizon  into horizon image Closes-Bug: #1647894  https://review.openstack.org/40781003:28
openstackbug 1647894 in kolla "tacker-horizon is not loaded when enabled tacker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1647894 - Assigned to qiankun.zhang (qiankun.zhang)03:28
openstackgerritqiankun.zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Install tacker-horizon into horizon image  https://review.openstack.org/40781003:29
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla: Install mistral dashboard into horizon image  https://review.openstack.org/40672603:41
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimized reconfigure action for glance  https://review.openstack.org/40697803:56
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openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla: Apply neutron database migration  https://review.openstack.org/40784004:03
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla: Install mistral dashboard into horizon image  https://review.openstack.org/40672604:26
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimized reconfigure action for nova  https://review.openstack.org/40741604:47
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openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Apply neutron database migration  https://review.openstack.org/40784004:53
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sdakeyo05:01
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duonghqsup sdake05:04
duonghqjust finished your dinner?05:04
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openstackgerritqiankun.zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Install tacker-horizon into horizon image  https://review.openstack.org/40781005:17
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla: Update "searchlight-1.0.0.tar.gz" to "searchlight-master.tar.gz"  https://review.openstack.org/40785105:27
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zhubingbinghi jeffrey4105:36
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sdake_sup Jeffrey4l05:39
sdake_sup zhubingbing05:39
Jeffrey4lhey sdake_05:39
Jeffrey4lzhubingbing, hi05:39
zhubingbinghey sdake_05:39
sdake_re the endless stream of questions we receive on the same topics05:39
sdake_some of those can be handled with documentation05:39
sdake_some can be handled with https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/page:1/query:kolla/05:40
sp_hi sdake_ Jeffrey4l05:40
sdake_Jeffrey4l mind taking that up at the next team meeting tomorrow?05:40
sdake_sup sp_05:40
Jeffrey4lnp.05:41
Jeffrey4lsdake_, optimize glance is almost done could u take a look if u have some time :)  https://review.openstack.org/40697805:43
sdake_Jeffrey4l sure i'll have a look - don't expect greatness from me - been up since 5am as usual and its 11pm05:43
sdake_Jeffrey4l can you set the blueprint to the appropriate state for better reconfig?05:46
Jeffrey4lyou are always an early bird ;)05:46
sdake_and night owl05:46
sdake_bad combo :)05:46
Jeffrey4ldone05:47
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sdake_done what Jeffrey4l ?05:50
Jeffrey4lmade the better reconfig bp to appropriate state05:50
sdake_oh right05:52
sdake_Jeffrey4l re your review, it lgtm05:52
sdake_the best I can really offer is a +1 at this point05:52
Jeffrey4lroger. thanks.05:53
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sdake_Jeffrey4l there are some new features being used like notify - which i'm unfamiliar with05:53
sdake_i could guess - but obviously don't want to break reconfigure05:54
Jeffrey4lnotify works like: when this task is changed, run another task defined in handlers/main.yml file.05:54
Jeffrey4lit won't break reconfigure. but after this is done, we do not need reconfigure anymore.05:54
Jeffrey4lbecause reconfigure works like deploy.05:54
sdake_so reconfigure can be deprecated?05:55
Jeffrey4lyep.05:55
sdake_alot of people use reconfigure expecting globals.yml modifications to be applied05:55
Jeffrey4li'd like to mark it deprecated when this is done. and remove it in the future.05:55
sdake_i dont even know wher eto begin on that prbolem05:55
sdake_Jeffrey4l cool - there is a deprecation process for that05:56
Jeffrey4lafter made some change, run deploy will work as what u think by using reconfigure.05:56
sdake_when you get there i can guide ou through it05:56
Jeffrey4lthanks.05:56
Jeffrey4lafter this changed is done, run deploy willl work as what u think by using reconfigure.05:56
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Jeffrey4land now implementation is faster. and configure file will copy to the hosts it needed ( this is bug in current implementaion )05:57
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Jeffrey4lso it will speed up a little during deploy ( not need copy so much configuration file )05:57
sdake_right05:58
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sdake_sounds pretty good to me ;)05:58
Jeffrey4lthis is what i always expect and is optimal to me ;)05:58
sdake_then deploy will take into account changes in globals.yml of existing deployment?05:59
Jeffrey4lyep.05:59
sdake_perfectly?05:59
Jeffrey4lwhen something is changed, it will restart container or recreate container.05:59
Jeffrey4lyes.05:59
Jeffrey4lperfect.05:59
sdake_sweet05:59
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Jeffrey4lthe number lines of the code will be decrease too. check the nova's change.  https://review.openstack.org/407416   +308 -64706:00
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sdake_nice!06:01
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sdake_well that sounds super optimal06:01
sdake_and solves a whole slew of problems with how reconfigure works today06:01
sdake_which is to say, not very well at all :)06:01
Jeffrey4lyep.06:02
sdake_Jeffrey4l we typically dont use the review stte in launchpad06:03
sdake_Jeffrey4l we use discussion and approved06:03
sdake_discussion = thinking about it/backlog06:03
Jeffrey4lsdake_, got. i will change it.06:03
sdake_approved = lets get moving :)06:03
Jeffrey4lwill mark it as approved.06:04
sdake_cool thanks06:04
sdake_my karma on launchpad is too high ;)06:04
sdake_need better balance among core team on karma launchpad06:04
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sdake_https://launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+topcontributors06:06
sdake_possibly another topic for tomorrow's meeting06:06
sdake_unless you think agenda is full06:06
sdake_Jeffrey4l say, can you modify the agenda for those two things - ask.openstack.org usage and balancing core team karma in launchpad?06:16
Jeffrey4lwhat balancing karma means. let core team do more work in launchpad?06:17
sdake_right06:17
Jeffrey4lroger. np06:17
sdake_the cor eteam can already do more work in launchpad06:17
sdake_it just isn't happening :)06:17
Jeffrey4lyep06:18
sdake_it may be a training issue06:18
sdake_worth discussing06:18
sdake_if its a training issue that is easily solvable06:18
sdake_if its a "dont want to do the job" issue that is harder to solve ;)06:18
Jeffrey4lsomeone may have no idea how to handle such thing properly.06:19
sdake_if thats the case lets figure that out06:19
sdake_only cores shoudl really handle blueprints imo06:19
Jeffrey4li.e. need some training, how to use/ how to manage those.06:19
sdake_but the bugs can be triaged by anyone06:19
sdake_well lets figure out if its a training problem or a dont want to do the job problem06:20
sdake_i'm honestly not sure which it is06:20
Jeffrey4ldoes kolla-drivers guys can do what he he to do. kolla-drivers != core team right now.06:20
Jeffrey4lok. will talk in the meeing.06:20
sdake_right - i like that kolla-drivers is an extended team06:20
Jeffrey4lmeeting*06:20
Jeffrey4lit is now.06:20
sdake_just that kolla-drivers really shouldn't adjust blueprint status06:20
sdake_only core team should06:21
sdake_most projects have core team == drivers team06:21
sdake_we have no separate bug triage team06:21
sdake_maybe we need one06:21
sdake_not sure ;)06:21
sdake_we have a bajilion bugs in our backlog06:21
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Jeffrey4lyes.06:24
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openstackgerritZeyu Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize the code  https://review.openstack.org/40781506:39
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duonghqzhubingbing, congratulation06:41
zhubingbingthanks06:42
zhubingbingthank all06:42
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openstackgerritpangliye proposed openstack/kolla: Fix typo error fix typo error "libary" -> "library"  https://review.openstack.org/40787606:46
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openstackgerritpangliye proposed openstack/kolla: Fix type error fix type error "managment" -> "management"  https://review.openstack.org/40788406:55
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openstackgerritqiankun.zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Install tacker-horizon into horizon image  https://review.openstack.org/40781007:09
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openstackgerritZeyu Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize the code  https://review.openstack.org/40781507:24
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openstackgerritZeyu Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Optimize the code  https://review.openstack.org/40781507:30
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jmccarthyAny ansible gurus about ? :) In this snippet here - would the serial be for both iscsid and tgtd, or is only the actions done against the 'tgtd' nodes done serially ?07:49
jmccarthy(I mean when not using the default of 0)07:49
jmccarthy- hosts:07:49
jmccarthy    - iscsid07:49
jmccarthy    - tgtd07:49
jmccarthy  serial: '{{ serial|default("0") }}'07:49
jmccarthy...07:49
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jascott1jmccarthy id guess both08:01
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jmccarthyYea I thought both also, but I'm second guessing myself :)08:02
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jascott1do both hosts <serial value> at a time08:02
sdakeJeffrey4l when will you be tagging 1.0.0.0b2 of kollla-kubernetes?08:02
sdakeor  rather all of the deliverables related to kolla?08:03
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sdakesay grats zhubingbing well deserved!08:03
zhubingbinghi08:04
Jeffrey4lsdake, depends on yours ;)08:04
Jeffrey4li asked ryan when i tag b1,08:04
sdakeJeffrey4l i dont understand what you mean08:04
jmccarthyOk, but do iscsid 'serial' and then do tgtd 'serial' is it ?08:04
sdakewe didn't tag a b1 because we weren't sure if we would have a 1.0.0 deliverable08:04
Jeffrey4lhe told me kolla-kubernetes will independent until 1.0.08:05
Jeffrey4lso i didn't make b1 for kolla-k8s.08:05
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sdakeeven independent should follow the standard release cycle08:05
Jeffrey4lok. no idea about this.08:05
sdakehave to take my word for it :)08:05
sdakedoug hellman had indicated in some email i saw somewhere in the past that independent projects should strive to follow the standard cycle08:06
sdakedoug hellman is ptl of the release  team08:06
Jeffrey4lso based on the release scheduler, it should be Dec 15 to make the tag.08:06
sdake#openstack-release08:06
Jeffrey4lok. but i don't see any rc tag for kolla-kubernetes now.08:07
Jeffrey4lmilestone* ( not rc )08:07
Jeffrey4lanyway, i will make the milestone2 tag for k8s around Dec 15.08:07
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sdakeJeffrey4l we need to see if the core team feels confident we can hit the schedules08:08
sdakewe need to hit two of the schedules to be considered part of the integrated release08:09
Jeffrey4lOK. i will add this in the meeting agenda.08:09
sdakethanks!08:09
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Jeffrey4l;) thanks for remind this08:09
sdakekolla and kolla-ansible of course will hit the schedules - can always just shed features08:10
Jeffrey4lyes.08:10
sdake7 days is pretty tight to hit the helm-microservices blueprint08:11
sdakeif we can hit that, i feel good about 1.0.0.0.b208:11
Jeffrey4lwhat's the status for that?08:11
Jeffrey4lcan we start the copy&paste work?08:11
sdakehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/helm-microservices08:12
sdakeits a little more then copy and paste08:12
sdakeit requires some brain power08:12
sdakebut ya, sort of copy and paste08:12
sdakeneed the team to make the call, i've been out of the loop working on other things for the last 3 days while people get things done ;)08:12
Jeffrey4lcool. i will take some time to the new stuff about kolla-k8s.08:13
Jeffrey4lthere isn't much TODO work item in the list. seem pretty good.08:14
sdakeya - although alot of inprogress stuff hasn't hit the review queue as of yet08:14
sdakeif we can hit that blueprint on the 15th, the rest is doable08:15
sdakethat blueprint is the fundamental building block on which everything else is bsaed08:15
Jeffrey4lcool08:16
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sdakeJeffrey4l for some reason i had been operating under the idea the 20th was the tag deadline08:18
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Jeffrey4lroger. np/08:18
sdakeno idea why i thought that08:18
sdakebut looking at the schedule - 15th is the date08:18
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Jeffrey4lpersonally, i think tail-cycle project should have more longger time than other projects for milestone tag.08:20
sdakeexpectation of trailing cycle projects is milestone tags are on time08:21
sdakeand the final tag can lag08:21
sdakewe did a poor job (as an openstack community) of defining the rcs and whatnot for the rcs during the last cycle (when trailing cycle was introduced)08:21
Jeffrey4lrcs means?08:22
sdakerelease candidates08:22
sdakerc108:22
sdakerc208:22
sdakeetc08:22
Jeffrey4lroger.08:22
sdakewhat the release team wants is one rc108:22
Jeffrey4lyep.08:22
sdakeand then one rc2 with all the bugs fixed08:22
openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: [WIP] Apply neutron database migration  https://review.openstack.org/40792208:22
sdakeand then the rc2 is retagged as final08:23
Jeffrey4ltrail project has lone rc cycle, but we can not add new feature, which is sad :(08:23
sdakeidea is we branch at rc108:23
sdakeand then new features can go into pike08:23
openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Apply neutron database migration  https://review.openstack.org/40784008:23
Jeffrey4lactually, between rc1 and finally release, no one works on new feature.08:24
sdakeya - thats because we have a bajillion bugs to fix :)08:24
sdakecan't ship a pile of garb08:24
Jeffrey4lyup. that's one of reason08:26
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sdakeduonghq will you be able to make team meeting tomorrow?08:36
sdakeor rather today08:36
duonghqsdake, yup, iirc, out meeting is done in Wed?08:37
sdakeyup - in channel topic08:38
duonghqsure08:38
sdakeduonghq so in roughly 8 hrs or so ;)08:38
duonghqah, today in my tz, just turn my inner clock to your tz so I can understand why you said it's tomorrow08:39
sdakeit is actually today in my tz as well08:39
sdakewhich means, i need to go to bed soon :)08:39
sdakejascott1 will you be able to make it?08:39
jascott1morning meeting? yes sir08:39
jascott1ya i need to crash as well08:40
duonghqsee you in the meeting, sdake  or sooner when you wake up and I back from school08:41
openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567708:41
duonghqguess that we have many topic here08:41
duonghqespecially o-2 is coming08:41
sdakejascott1 no need to call me sir :)08:42
sdakesdake works :)08:42
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jascott1yes sdake08:42
jascott1:)08:42
sdakeok - need to crash before i burn08:42
jascott1have a good one08:42
jascott1night all08:42
sdakelater peeps08:42
duonghqcya sdake08:42
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egonzalez90morning08:58
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duonghqmorning egonzalez9009:05
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zhubingbingmorning09:22
zhubingbingsup  egonzalez9009:22
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duonghqsee you guys in about 4hrs09:43
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zhubingbinghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/400122/09:57
zhubingbinghello guys09:57
zhubingbingwho can hel09:57
zhubingbingwho can help me review it ?09:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Update "searchlight-1.0.0.tar.gz" to "searchlight-master.tar.gz"  https://review.openstack.org/40785110:00
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/kolla: Fix the format issue  https://review.openstack.org/40734310:39
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openstackgerritprameswar proposed openstack/kolla: bifrost guide improved  https://review.openstack.org/40617712:16
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openstackgerritprameswar proposed openstack/kolla: bifrost guide improved  https://review.openstack.org/40617712:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible: Enable designate dashboard when enable_designate is yes  https://review.openstack.org/40594212:35
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portdirectmorning o/12:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix typo error fix typo error "libary" -> "library"  https://review.openstack.org/40787612:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Update Kibana documentation  https://review.openstack.org/40372912:53
Bico_FinoThere is a order to restart all containers?12:55
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778012:58
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kfox1111morning.13:10
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duonghqevening guys13:11
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zhubingbinghi13:13
Jeffrey4lzhubingbing, congratulation ;)13:14
zhubingbingthank you very much13:16
Jeffrey4lsince inc0 is on vocation. i will give some training as a core reviewer ;)13:16
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Jeffrey4li have added you into kolla-core  and kolla-ansible group. now you can +2 and +w in kolla and kolla-ansible project.13:17
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zhubingbingI will do my best to contribute kolla13:17
Jeffrey4lnice ;)13:18
Jeffrey4lnormally, if you are the first person +2, you shouldn't +w we need two at least two +213:18
Jeffrey4lif you are the second person +w , you are free to workflow +1, but remember you need +2 and +w at the same time.13:19
zhubingbing;) understand13:19
Jeffrey4ldo not just click the +workflow button.13:19
Jeffrey4land please do not workflow+1 unless the gate is finished are gree.13:20
Jeffrey4lwe do not require the core reviewer to test the patch. but you can ask the author that wether the code works.13:20
Jeffrey4lif no, you can -1 for it.13:21
Jeffrey4lif you are coauthor of the patch, you can not +2 for it.13:21
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Jeffrey4lbut you can +1 to indicate you think the code is OK to you.13:21
Jeffrey4lsometime, you can +1 for the patch, then you name will list in the reviewers list. it will tell others you want tracking this patch.13:22
Jeffrey4land you will get some notification when the patch is updated.13:23
zhubingbingroger13:24
Jeffrey4lsometime you may need your -2 right. it means this patch is blocked.   two possible reason, we can not merge this for release reason. or we won't merge this, it is not what kolla will do.13:24
Jeffrey4lfor spec patch, it require majority vote.13:25
Jeffrey4lwe have 14 core members right now.13:25
Jeffrey4lso it require at least 8 votes.13:25
Jeffrey4lthis is all about review in gerrit13:26
Jeffrey4lzhubingbing, any question?13:26
zhubingbingno question13:26
zhubingbingthank you13:26
Jeffrey4lok.13:26
Jeffrey4las core reviewer, you also have responsibility to manage bugs in launchpad.13:27
Jeffrey4lI know you are familiar with that ;)13:27
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Jeffrey4ltake care when dealing the states of bug. other wise it will be got lost in the tracker .13:28
Jeffrey4lthat all.13:28
zhubingbingunderstand13:29
Jeffrey4lcool13:29
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Jeffrey4land welcome join the kolla team ;)13:29
zhubingbingmy pleasure13:30
zhubingbing;)13:30
duonghqJeffrey4l, as I see, the Kolla is updated after such a long time?13:30
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duonghqKolla meeting agenda13:31
duonghqsup v1k0d3n13:31
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778013:31
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Jeffrey4lduonghq, sorry? kolla is updated  means?13:32
duonghqJeffrey4l, missed typing, I mean Kolla meeting agenda13:32
duonghqsorry13:32
Jeffrey4li made some change in the agenda. feel free to add some thing you want to talk in it.13:33
portdirectJeffrey4l: do you have a link to the agenda?13:33
Jeffrey4lyep13:33
Jeffrey4lhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla13:33
duonghqJeffrey4l, I added kolla-kubernetes helm versioning to the agenda,13:35
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Hel-ming Rabbitmq  https://review.openstack.org/40542213:35
Jeffrey4lcool13:35
Jeffrey4lthanks.13:35
Jeffrey4lwe have the meeting relate info in the channel topic: you can check it if you forget: Kolla IRC meetngs on Wednesdays @ 16:00 UTC - see agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL13:36
duonghqzhubingbing, can you put your name on our Wiki, just for reference: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kolla :D13:36
zhubingbingok13:37
duonghqnot really many people read the wiki but it'd be nice if people can get you tz when somebody need to see you13:38
portdirectduonghq/zhubingbing: if either of you could add me to that list I'd really apreicate it - I'm unable to create an account to log into the wiki for some reason13:39
sdakemorning peeps13:39
sdakeis srwilkers around?13:39
portdirectmorning sdake13:40
sdakeaup portdirect13:40
srwilkers_morning everyone13:40
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla: Remove the unnecessary "openstack-zaqar-ui"  https://review.openstack.org/40757613:40
sdakeportdirect can you please email me a link to that article you send me the other day13:40
duonghqI go out for awhile,13:40
sdakehey srwilkers - wanted to know if you want to join the kolla-kubernetes-drivers team - this team does bug triage and generally maintains launchpad13:41
srwilkers_yeah definitely. count me in13:41
sdakeits is atypical to directly approve blueprints but other tings are ok with blueprints13:41
sdakewhich is your lauchpad id13:41
zhubingbinghttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kolla#Active_Contributors13:41
zhubingbingdone13:41
sdakebtw, this is a superset of the core reviewer team13:41
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srwilkers_sdake, srwilker13:41
sdakeas in, it has more people in it then just the core reviewer team13:41
srwilkers_yep, got it :)13:42
sdakeit does giveyou full access to launchpad13:42
sdakethe one thing i ask is not to approve blueprints and leave that to the core reviewers13:42
srwilkers_yeah definitely. goes without saying :)13:42
sdakebut feel free to getaquanted with launchpad13:42
sdakesrwilkers_ nah its not really clear - actually very few people approve blueprints in the core reviewer team iether unforutntaely :(13:43
sdakegive me a min to get my day going13:43
prameswargood morning All13:43
srwilkers_sdake, i get that. makes sense to not have a bunch of people just approving things left and right, especially if they're not a core member to boot13:44
srwilkers_heading into the office. will be back on in ~30 or so13:45
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sdakeits not core member13:45
sdakeits core reviewer13:45
sdakebut roger :)13:46
prameswarcan you please review : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406177/  and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407061/ again ?13:49
prameswarit is very difficult to write doc. :)13:49
Jeffrey4lklindgren__, around?13:50
sdakeprameswar yes - writing documentation is harder then writing code13:51
sdakewriting tests is harder then writing code too13:51
sdakenot sure if tests or docs are harder ;)13:51
prameswarin my first patch  there is one line that suggested to change then in second patch someone suggest change it to something diffent finally it become that i pushed in 1st patch :)13:51
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egonzalez90Anyone know if there is a limit of volumes attached to an instance?13:58
openstackgerritjunbo proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Integrate ceph-rgw with keystone  https://review.openstack.org/40697114:00
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add qemu-img into glance api image  https://review.openstack.org/40812914:00
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sbezverk_good morning14:06
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portdirectprameswar: yeah (that was me...) subjective things are the hardest to reach consensus on. Anything that is primarity rated on qualative vs quantative metrics is virtually impossible to draw a unviersially accepted consensus on, I used to teach engineering and hated marking students essays - as at least with pure mathematical work there was a definative answer you were looking for - though sometimes it was quite fun when I totally disagreed wit14:06
portdirecth their PoV but they presented a solid argument for it.14:06
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kfox1111sbezverk_: morning14:08
sbezverk_kfox1111: so rabbitmq is a go :-)14:09
kfox1111yup. :)14:09
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kfox1111its workflowed. I had to tweak the commit message to remove a work in progress.14:09
kfox1111so its retesting.14:09
prameswarportdirect:  :)14:09
sbezverk_kfox1111: qq have you tried generate config after the repo split? I have not tried but one of guys I met at the summit told me that it is not working14:10
kfox1111sbezverk_: yeah, the gate's still using trunk I believe.14:10
sbezverk_kfox1111: I checked the gate code and you do some magic with zuul_clone or something, is it now required?14:11
kfox1111it checks out kolla-ansible via zuul_clone, which is fater/more reliable then git clone in the gate. otherwise, its the same.14:11
kfox1111I did check it out named kolla rather then kolla-ansible so I didn't have to go through and fix all the dir references.14:12
kfox1111probably should fix that at some point. but wanted to fix a the gate asap when it broke.14:12
sbezverk_kfox1111: ok I need to regen config for new test bed, hopefully gen config will just work..14:13
duonghqjust scroll back, sdake_, prameswar would it be better you shared volumes doc is put in seperated file?14:13
portdirectsbezverk_:  I've been using the method that kfox1111 implemented in the gate - and its been working fine for me14:13
sbezverk_portdirect: cool, thanks for confirming14:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Hel-ming Rabbitmq  https://review.openstack.org/40542214:15
portdirectkfox1111: should we think about move genconfig into kolla? it seems counterintative for kolla-k8s to depend on kolla-ansible long term? Though I'm totally fine with being shot down on that :)14:15
kfox1111portdirect: I agree.14:16
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duonghqportdirect, kfox1111  me too14:16
sbezverk_kfox1111: portdirect: 100% agree14:16
kfox1111there's been some talk about moving genconfig back into kolla repo and removing the ansible part of the config.14:16
sbezverk_ kfox1111: portdirect: there is one thing though, kolla-ansible generates openstack config for us14:17
kfox1111sbezverk_: yeah.14:17
sbezverk_I am not sure how feasible would it be to do just in kolla without kolla-ansible14:18
kfox1111and genconfiging the openstack stuff is complicated enough, it would be nice to share that code if at all possible.14:18
kfox1111we should have to have a really good reason to maintain a parallel config system.14:18
portdirectsbezverk_ this was my concern, could we discuss this at the meeting? (I cant edit the wii to add it to the agenda)14:19
duonghqconfig layering and merging is wfm14:19
sbezverk_kfox1111: if genconfig can consume config for ansible and config for kolla-kubernetes then no reason :-)14:19
sbezverk_portdirect: good idea, let's add it14:19
kfox1111rabbit merged14:20
portdirectNice :) I'm about to push a ps for keystone that will raise a few q's about db management (where we store params) - I've intentionally left that open for disscussion (ie incomplete) as it will set the tone for other api servces,14:23
kfox1111portdirect: k. sounds good.14:23
kfox1111portdirect: I'm still on the fence if we should push keystone/horizon through common_deployment. it basically requires turning off everything added in common_deployment. it may be cleaner to just use common lib.14:25
kfox1111calling it common_deployment might have been a bit of a misnomer, as its not intended for all cases a kubernetes deployment object could be used.14:26
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kfox1111but handles just about all of the openstack api like services that are not in apache.14:26
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portdirectkfox1111: I'm open to that, more openstack projects are beginning to support apache as a deployment mechanism - I could rename common_deployment to common_python_deployment, and create a common_apache_deployment?14:29
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kfox1111portdirect: that sounds good to me.14:30
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kfox1111then we can easily share the code between keystone and horizon.14:30
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portdirectnp - will do, I'll create a sperate ps for that - to clearly seperate the tasks and also allow us to get it in before keystone is done - whihc will help people working on other api's14:31
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kfox1111sounds good. :)14:33
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openstackgerritjunbo proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Integrate ceph-rgw with keystone  https://review.openstack.org/40697114:52
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming mariadb components  https://review.openstack.org/40816014:57
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778014:58
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment.yaml to _common_api_python_deployment.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/40816515:11
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment.yaml to _common_api_python_deployment.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/40816515:21
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment.yaml to _common_api_python_deployment.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/40816515:25
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment.yaml to _common_api_python_deployment.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/40816515:29
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kfox1111portdirect: alive?15:29
portdirectkfox1111: just working on too many ps at once - hence gerrit madness :)15:30
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kfox1111portdirect: yeah. :)15:30
kfox1111figured it would be better to talk it out real quick. :)15:30
portdirectshoot :)15:30
kfox1111so, do you think the parent itself would ever want to disaable haproxy overriding what the user specifies via values?15:30
portdirectnot with the seperation between api_python and api_apache15:31
kfox1111k. so, I thin kthe cleanest thing would be to:15:31
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kfox1111* have {{- $haproxy := .Values.haproxy | default true }} of the common file.15:32
kfox1111* s/.haproxy/$haproxy/ in the common file15:32
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kfox1111* not define haproxy at all in neutron-server15:32
kfox1111that should eliminate all dead code.15:33
portdirectok  - that sounds logical - Need to get my head round gotpl a but more i think (as I'm not sure how to implement that ohhand if the 2nd ps wouldnt hav achived that) - will proba have worked it out in 2 mins - but I'll hit you up if i get stuck :)15:34
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming mariadb components  https://review.openstack.org/40816015:35
kfox1111k. sounds good.15:37
kfox1111yeah. gotl is a little weird.15:37
kfox1111. vars vs $ vars especially. :/15:37
kfox1111and no way to set a . var except with a 'with' is goofy and painful. :/15:37
sdakeduonghq busy - not sure why you pinged me - working on getting my kids to school15:38
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duonghqsdake, about this ps: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407061/15:40
duonghqI think we should not continue putting stuff like this to QSG?15:40
sdakebusy15:41
duonghqcan you join IRC meeting?15:41
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duonghqsorry, just do not get your meaning15:43
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egonzalez90duonghq: have the same opinion as you with QSG15:48
duonghqthank egonzalez9015:48
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Jeffrey4lwe can talk this in the meeting.15:55
Jeffrey4ldoc is a essential thing we need improve in this cycle. there are lots of complain about it.15:56
duonghqJeffrey4l, can you make a topic about doc?15:57
Jeffrey4lduonghq, yep. i added it into the agenda15:57
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duonghqcool15:58
Jeffrey4lmeeting time guys16:00
wirehead_If I wander in to a meeting channel and the previous meeting hasn't stopped yet, do I retain my usual right to make bad puns?16:00
portdirectof course :)16:00
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming mariadb components  https://review.openstack.org/40816016:01
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dmsimardJeffrey4l: which channel is the meeting in ?16:11
srwilkers_openstack-meeting-416:11
Jeffrey4ldmsimard, #openstack-meeting-416:12
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming mariadb components  https://review.openstack.org/40816016:36
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming mariadb components  https://review.openstack.org/40816017:00
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dmsimardSorry, got side tracked during the meeting. I had a question for the open floor.17:01
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dmsimardI'd like to know if you would be open to splitting the baremetal role out of kolla-ansible: https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/tree/master/ansible/roles/baremetal (the one responsible for bootstrap-servers)17:02
Jeffrey4ldmsimard, split it to?17:02
openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: Minor documentation fixes  https://review.openstack.org/40653417:02
dmsimardContext is kolla-ansible (the tool) does not really bring much value in this context, and really all I want is to leverage the bootstrap server role in order to use kolla-build without needing to do the setup myself17:03
dmsimardJeffrey4l: a separate standalone role, outside of kolla-ansible17:03
dmsimardI'm trying to build kolla containers with ansible right now, I /could/ use the kolla-ansible command but that hides away all the tasks it does (it's like a bash command inside an ansible task), so I'd like to include the role properly instead17:04
dmsimardI'm not sure if you understand17:04
Jeffrey4lhrm but it is doing lots of work related to kolla.17:04
Jeffrey4llike make /run shared17:04
Jeffrey4lprepare /etc/hosts based on the api_interface17:05
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rhalliseydmsimard, that idea has been throw around. Maybe a kolla-host repo or something17:05
dmsimardJeffrey4l: it's still related to kolla if it's split into git.o.o/openstack/ansible-role-kolla-bootstrap or something like that17:05
Jeffrey4lbut it just installs docker-engine except that.17:05
dmsimardafk, getting food.17:05
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming mariadb components  https://review.openstack.org/40816017:06
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Jeffrey4lrhallisey, kolla-host is mange baremetal, imo.17:06
rhalliseyit could also do config generation17:06
Jeffrey4lnot mainly prepare the kolla running env.17:07
klindgrenJeffrey4l, pong17:07
Jeffrey4lsup klindgren17:07
Jeffrey4lklindgren, can we talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405647/17:07
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klindgrenyep - can I have ~15 minutes?  Finishing a meeting - but I know you are not in the states17:08
Jeffrey4lnp.17:09
Jeffrey4lping me when you are free klindgren17:09
duonghqJeffrey4l, if I understand correctly, your approach in reconfiguration still need the config is copied to every node (in their type) and then the Kolla know whether the config is changed and trigger the handler?17:09
Jeffrey4li am still up in another 1 hours.17:10
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Jeffrey4lduonghq, yep.17:10
duonghqok17:10
Jeffrey4lso what u want?17:10
duonghqjust confirm my understand17:10
Jeffrey4lexactly ;)17:10
duonghqI think it's better if we know which host need to be updates in advanced17:11
duonghqbut it'll require huge effort17:11
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Jeffrey4lduonghq, but how?17:11
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Jeffrey4lif u do not copy the configuration file, how could u know which host need update?17:11
duonghqJeffrey4l, iirc my  friend told me that some CM can tracking this17:11
Jeffrey4lno idea about CM.17:12
Jeffrey4l;(17:12
Jeffrey4lis there any tool implement CM?17:12
duonghqI need to ask somebody and will bring this topic later17:12
Jeffrey4lcool.17:12
Jeffrey4lthaks17:12
Jeffrey4li think you may be a DB to store everything else on other node. then you can get which node need to be updated without touch it.17:13
Jeffrey4lif so, i do not think ansible can implement this17:13
egonzalez90duonghq: you meaning something like puppet-agents to check the status of everything?17:13
duonghqJeffrey4l,  yup, most trivial approach17:13
duonghqegonzalez90, yep17:13
duonghqmy friend told me something like that17:13
Jeffrey4legonzalez90, we have ansible-pull, just like agent. but no idea could it implement such.17:14
egonzalez90personally I don't like that approach, leting a CM to modify whenever it wants something17:15
egonzalez90I would prefer one step to check status  and then other step to configure17:15
severionduonghq: hey man17:15
severionsorry late17:16
severiondang...one sec...17:16
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v1k0d3nduonghq: hey...this is better17:16
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duonghqhey there17:17
Jeffrey4legonzalez90, agreed it is simple and works.17:17
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duonghqagreed with egonzalez9017:18
duonghqv1k0d3n, you are severion?17:18
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v1k0d3nwhen my client drops...yes17:21
v1k0d3n:)17:21
duonghqwhat can I do for you?17:22
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Implement only restart the container which configuration changed  https://review.openstack.org/40822517:22
Jeffrey4lduonghq, make another improvement. it is kinda complicated, but better ^^17:23
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Implement only restart the container which configuration changed  https://review.openstack.org/40822517:24
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment.yaml to _common_api_python_deployment.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/40816517:25
Jeffrey4lno idea whether it is worth, especially for big service, like nova and neutron.17:25
klindgrenJeffrey4l, ping - Free now17:26
Jeffrey4lklindgren, pong, cool17:26
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment.yaml to _common_api_python_deployment.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/40816517:26
Jeffrey4lklindgren, i replied your comment in the ps.17:27
duonghqJeffrey4l, If we rewrite it in other way, it'll be more compact17:27
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duonghqbut for many components services, I don't sure17:27
duonghqbetter performance but harder for maintainance17:28
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Jeffrey4lcurrent implementation 1 do not hard duonghq17:28
Jeffrey4li wrote the nova part, i do not think it is hard.17:29
Jeffrey4lduonghq, https://review.openstack.org/40741617:29
duonghqit still ok until the components is not change in name or number17:29
klindgrenJeffrey4l, yep, I was reading though.  So I was not aware of the Kolla philosophy about being as hands off as possible from the host OS.17:30
Jeffrey4lchange name is bad, we should avoid this. it will cause upgrade issue.17:30
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Jeffrey4lduonghq, change number is not a big issue.17:30
duonghqya, it should not be in most case17:31
portdirectsbezverk: ping17:31
Jeffrey4lklindgren, create the same user on host is useless except good for view by human17:31
klindgrenI guess if I wanted to have the uid/gid/ match in the host os, I could do that.17:31
klindgrenwell the reason why I wanted to do that is that initially I wanted to use the scripts/logic I already have for generating the config files17:32
portdirectsbezverk/kfoxx1111: any preference for where we store common db port/hostname for consumption by services?17:32
Jeffrey4lklindgren, you can create it in another script/roles.17:32
Jeffrey4lbut i do not think add this into kolla is a good idea.17:32
klindgrenif I set the uid/gid the same as whats in the kolla images, then I dont have to worry about chowning them in the container?17:32
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Jeffrey4lklindgren, generation config files? why not use kolla's configure generator?17:33
Jeffrey4lklindgren, you can use chown 1000:1000 foobar ;)17:33
kfox1111portdirect: not quite sure I follow.17:34
klindgrenbecause we have a bunch of extra stuff added into our - plus we run cells :-)17:34
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kfox1111portdirect: you mean mariadb location info?17:34
klindgrenadded into our config*17:34
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Jeffrey4lcool. do u ever thought add cell support in kolla lol17:34
klindgrenbasically trying to get kolla in our existing env/process, but we are trying to do it in as small of chunks as a time17:34
portdirectkfox1111: yeah - eg for: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407780/7/helm/kolla-common/templates/_common_db_create_job.yaml Line 18/1917:35
Jeffrey4lanyway, create the same user in host os is a edge case, it is useless for most of user. and it breaks kolla's philosophy.17:36
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Jeffrey4lbut we do not stop u create the same user in you owner script, which is very simple.17:36
klindgrenand from my perspective where we have a bunch of external, non openstack, not yet kolla'ized services that do things on the host.  Having matching uid/gid between container and host would make things simpler, as we get more and more of things into kolla it makes less of a deal17:36
Jeffrey4lafter we implement fix uid and gid.17:36
klindgrenso - I can keep that part out of any patch up stream, and simply make a script to parse the mapping17:36
kfox1111portdirect: looking17:36
klindgrenand create the users locally17:36
Jeffrey4lcool. ( if we create the user, what will happen, if the uid is already taken by another sysstem user? )17:37
klindgrenJeffrey4l, re: cells.  Yes we are going to have to add nova-cells.  But the issue is this is cellsv1 and from previous convo's you guys really only want to add support for cellsv2.  Because they behave very differently17:38
Jeffrey4lklindgren, we have agreement on this, right? move on?17:38
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Jeffrey4lyep. you r right.17:39
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kfox1111portdirect: Ah./ I see. your finishing up the common create db stuff I hadn't gotten around to yet.17:39
kfox1111thanks for working on that. :)17:39
Jeffrey4lnext is fix uid mapping or dynamic, right? fk17:39
Jeffrey4lklindgren, ^17:39
klindgrenJeffrey4l, I think the only thing that is still open.  Is where to store the mapping17:40
Jeffrey4lforget it now.17:40
portdirectkfox1111: yeah - I've got keystone endpopint jobs and db (initial) migration about to drop as well :)17:40
kfox1111doh.17:40
kfox1111been working on common endpoint myself.17:40
Jeffrey4lwe need confirm that, if the uid is changable, how to handle the upgrade issue we meet now?17:40
kfox1111I'll have a look at that too.17:40
Jeffrey4lklindgren, ^^17:41
klindgrenMy only point was I would rather have it in a config file to override, vs's in code so I dont have to maintain a code patch to kolla.17:41
Jeffrey4lstore it is simple. i have idea for this. but we need confirm above issue.17:41
kfox1111portdirect: ok. so your question is about allowing the user override the db info, so its easier to do a multimariadb setup?17:42
Jeffrey4lif the uid is changable/customable, does kolla handle the different during upgrade? klindgren17:42
klindgrenSo as I understand the issue.  If someone changes the uid between releases.  At some point in the future17:42
v1k0d3nduonghq: i was just responding to you earlier.17:42
v1k0d3nbeen head down lately.17:43
kfox1111portdirect: oh. I don't see code for endpoint creation yet. have you been owkring on it, or going to next?17:43
kfox1111cause I have patches.17:43
klindgrenwhen the start up script in the container is removed. they will cause permisions issues that kolla wont fix for them17:43
portdirectkfox1111: yep - also to support mariadb being in a different k8s namespace from the service17:43
portdirectkfox1111: putting together a ps with them all in - not pushed yest but soon as i have this resolved I;ll get them up17:44
kfox1111portdirect: ah. I see. yeah. +1 to that configurability.17:44
klindgrenfrom my point of view having a a warning with a doc fix would be sufficient?17:44
kfox1111portdirect: do you actually have code yet for endpoints though?17:44
duonghqget some sleep now, thank you, see ya guys17:44
Jeffrey4lklindgren, cool. i hope so. if u use customize uid, you should take care of you uid mapping configuration. kolla do not take care of this.17:44
kfox1111trying to ffigure out how much we are actually duplicating work at this point.17:44
portdirectyep17:44
Jeffrey4lklindgren, agreed.17:44
klindgrenIE if you change this, you will also need to change the files on the host to match the new mapping.  Read nore here.17:44
portdirectI was takeleing the keystone parts as on the blueprint ?17:44
Jeffrey4lthen we can remove permissions secions in config.json file.17:44
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kfox1111portdirect: yeah, but depends on common stuff, and I was doing the same for neutron's common bits.17:45
kfox1111i didn't see any reviews up so I started workin on that part.17:45
Jeffrey4lklindgren, yes. mainly the file in docker named volume.17:45
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Jeffrey4ltrust me, no one want do this. it is very complicated.17:45
kfox1111can you post what you have asap?17:46
Jeffrey4lso keep your uid mapping if u change it, and use it to build container all the time.17:46
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Jeffrey4land add some warning to when someone trying to use such feature.17:46
klindgrenyep - that was my thought as well.  Someone would change it to help ease kolla into their env, but no reason to change it again once kolla is all integrated.17:47
Jeffrey4lcool.17:47
Jeffrey4lso we can continue17:47
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Jeffrey4labout the uid mapping storage.17:47
Jeffrey4lwe can save a static mapping in common/config.py file.17:48
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Jeffrey4land add a new parameter like --uid-mapping which is a oslo.dict format. you can use this override the static mapping.17:49
Jeffrey4ldoes it work?17:49
portdirectkfox1111: will post in 5 mins17:49
kfox1111portdirect: k. thanks.17:49
kfox1111I'll try and merge with mine.17:49
portdirectjust need to move it from my ws17:50
kfox1111I've been doing it a bit differently though. finally got to the point where I couldn't look at that hacky json escaping nightmare in there,17:50
kfox1111ansible being used when not really needed,17:50
kfox1111and there being a race condition because of how ansible does things,17:51
kfox1111so was breaking out service creation into its own job.17:51
Jeffrey4lklindgren, /17:51
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klindgrenI think that would work, if we can pass a mapping in.  As long as we dont have to modify code - I would be ok with it17:55
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Jeffrey4lklindgren, we can i will write a piece of code for this.17:56
Jeffrey4lnow need go to bed ;)17:56
klindgrenok - thanks - I will update the spec with the information that we talked about17:56
Jeffrey4lthanks a lot.17:57
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Jeffrey4lklindgren, just fyi, kolla will make b2 tag arouch dec 15. hope this ps can be merged before that ;)17:58
klindgrenkk17:58
Jeffrey4lthanks. bye guys.17:58
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778017:59
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portdirectkfox1111: I'll move these into a new ps for common libs so we can work on them there18:01
kfox1111portdirect: oh...18:02
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portdirect?18:02
kfox1111you uploaded the keystone create endpoitn job as common.18:02
kfox1111keystone's own endpoint one is fairly keystone specific.18:02
portdirectoh - good point!18:03
kfox1111I'd move that one back as a regular job package, and then use the common one I'm owrking on.18:03
portdirectwhoops :)18:03
kfox1111then we're not stepping on each other too. :)18:03
portdirectofc :)18:03
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portdirectI'll move it back and get the init in as well - still need to test it on my local gate clone.18:04
kfox1111cool.18:04
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kfox1111I'd consider breaking up that ps more too. parts could probably have been merged already but I'm going to have to rereview it all as it keeps changing.18:04
portdirectyeah - I know it's not ideal - I'll smash it with the big git hammer just now :)18:05
kfox1111cool. thanks.18:05
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portdirectthough re your comment - I much prefer <service>-db-create to <serivce>-create-db, as it reads better for other actions, esp when services have multiple depencaices to manipultate eg rabbit etc. Is there a reson fro your peference the other way round?18:08
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kfox1111most of the other services are already folowing the other convention.18:08
kfox1111we'd have to change them all.18:08
kfox1111it also looks a little better to me due to all the similar jobs lining up:18:09
kfox1111neutron-create-keystone-service18:09
kfox1111neutron-create-keystone-endpoint-public18:09
kfox1111neutron-create-db18:09
kfox1111rather then:18:09
kfox1111neutron-keystone-service-create18:10
kfox1111neutron-keystone-endpoint-create18:10
kfox1111neutron-db-create18:10
kfox1111thought thats pretty minor.18:10
portdirectthough the dont esist in helm yet - so is this not a perfect opportunity to do so? though from your messages i see we are just encoutering a difference in the way we visulaise a workflow for a service :)18:10
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kfox1111its mostly convention I'm owrried about. theyu all shouodl be the same, whatever the convnention is.18:12
kfox1111we'll, we're mostly doing a one to one convert. but, yeah, might be easier now then later.18:12
kfox1111so, I prefer one way, you prefer the other. need a tie breaker. :)18:12
kfox1111sbezverk_: you have an opinion? :)18:12
portdirect^^ :D18:12
kfox1111I don't care too much, so whatever others reach consensus around. but don't want extra work, so unless consensus is to change, lets just keep it the way it is. :)18:13
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kfox1111arg... hate that about helm... so useful... :(18:23
kfox1111Error: YAML parse error on neutron-create-keystone-service/templates/neutron-create-keystone-service.yaml: error converting YAML to JSON: yaml: mapping values are not allowed in this context18:24
kfox1111I wonder if 2.0.2 is any better there...18:24
portdirectkfox1111: that means you have an error in your template somewhere18:24
kfox1111heh. yeah.18:25
kfox1111"general car fault light"18:25
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portdirect:D18:25
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openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567718:29
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kfox1111neutron-create-keystone-service/charts/kolla-common/templates/_common_create_keystone_service.yaml:15:20: executing "common_create_keystone_service" at <.Values.selector_key>: can't evaluate field selector_key in type interface {}18:32
kfox1111uhhh.. thats really odd....18:33
qwangkfox1111: I have a question about current helm packaging. eg. for keystone, why do we need to split keystone-api/keystone-endpoint/keystone-svc/etc into many charts?18:33
kfox1111qwang: yeah. one per k8s object in microservices.18:33
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jascott1qwang its for flexibility18:34
qwangnot quite understand. could you give an example?18:35
jascott1so they can be installed/upgraded individually18:35
jascott1with helm18:35
kfox1111its to allow for manual orchestration, and to allow the end user assemble custom archetectures.18:35
jascott1^ what he said ;)18:35
kfox1111so, if they want to do one rabbit per major service, except share a rabbit between nova/neutron, they can do that.18:36
kfox1111or cluster the nova/neutron rabbit, but make the others not.18:36
kfox1111etc.18:36
kfox1111they are building blocks of which a full system can be built out of.18:37
qwangI see. thanks jascott1 kfox111118:37
kfox1111np18:37
kfox1111ah. found the problem.18:38
kfox1111man I really wish you could word wrap a with statement in gotl. :/18:39
kfox1111if you have a long dict definition, its hard to count them in pairs in that case.18:40
openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Clean up kolla-ansible related files  https://review.openstack.org/40642918:41
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kfox1111"http://keystone:%!s(float64=35357)"18:42
kfox1111heh.... thats not right...18:42
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jascott1kfox1111 ya im surprised there is no solution for that18:46
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kfox1111              value: "http://keystone:35357.000000"18:48
kfox1111hmm... almost... :/18:48
kfox1111int maybe...18:49
mliima_hey guys18:50
sbezverk_portdirect: ping18:50
mliima_when i ran showmount -e within cinder_volume container a "get clnt_create: RPC: Unknown host18:51
mliima_"18:51
kfox1111uh....18:51
kfox1111function "int" not defined18:51
kfox1111thats weird....18:51
kfox1111its in the sprig reference...18:51
sbezverk_kfox1111: was there any changes done for neutron?18:51
portdirectsbezverk_ pong18:52
sbezverk_neutron-server? it got broken on my last run18:52
sbezverk_Error: release neutron-server failed: unable to decode "": Object 'Kind' is missing in '{"template":"no template \"common_deployment\" associated with template \"gotpl\""}'18:52
sbezverk_portdirect: is it yours?18:52
portdirectkfox1111: nothing I've done has been merged18:52
kfox1111sbezverk_: I don't think so?18:52
portdirectsry sbezverk ^^18:52
kfox1111what broke? got a link?18:52
kfox1111oh.18:53
sbezverk_kfox1111: sure http://logs.openstack.org/65/408165/6/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-external-ovs-nv/e04fc23/console.html18:53
portdirectsbezverk_: my stuff has failed at the smae place - I thought because of changes I'd made but perhaps there is something else going on?18:54
kfox1111the last thing merged wias hel-ming Rabbitmq18:55
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portdirectsbezverk_: thats logs from my ps you posted?18:57
kfox1111sbezverk_: that one is a bug in portdirect's ps.18:58
kfox1111neutron-server needs to include the renamed macro.18:58
portdirectwill fix - sorry didnt realise you were using that ps18:59
kfox1111there we go. %1.f did the trick.19:00
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment.yaml to _common_api_python_deployment.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/40816519:05
sbezverk_portdirect: what I do not get is how not merged PS imapcted mine not merged PS, it is amistery19:06
openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Clean up kolla-ansible related files  https://review.openstack.org/40642919:07
kfox1111sbezverk_: 100% sure you were looking at the right logs? as you pasted portdirect's.19:07
sbezverk_portdirect: have you read my comment on common deployment PS?19:07
kfox1111second issue could be a bug in zuuel. I believe it does some very clever things to merge patches for testing.19:07
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add neutron keystone service creation job  https://review.openstack.org/40826319:08
portdirectsbezverk_: never underestimate the power of my bugs :)19:09
portdirectsbezverk_: you mean here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408165/19:09
sbezverk_portdirect: yep19:10
portdirectsbezverk_: I'm not quite sure I follow? the only template that uses this is neutron server whihc should be fixed in the latest ps.19:10
portdirectsbezverk_: though I'm probably missing something?19:10
sbezverk_portdirect: it is nt clear for me too, your ps has not been merged, so nothing could have changed common_deployment in the master19:11
sbezverk_why all of a sudden it started misbehaving??19:12
portdirectyou have a log of your ps thats failing in zuul?19:12
kfox1111yeah. would like to see the log myself.19:12
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sbezverk_http://logs.openstack.org/65/408165/6/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-external-ovs-nv/e04fc23/console.html19:13
sbezverk_portdirect:    ^^19:14
kfox1111sbezverk_: wrong ps.19:14
portdirectcould you post a link the the ps thats generating that log - as thats the log from my last ps19:14
kfox1111thats https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408165/19:14
sbezverk_oh man. maybe it is just me going crazy %()19:15
kfox1111:)19:15
kfox1111I've done it before myself.19:15
kfox1111thats why I double check the changeset id from the logs against the review from time to time.19:15
kfox1111really easy to get tabs mixed up in the browser if your doing multiple revies at once.19:16
portdirectnp  - I've been stuggeling with too many ongoing projects today as well :)19:16
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sbezverk_portdirect: appologties, too many damn windows in the browser19:16
portdirectsbezverk_: absoultily no problem dude :)19:17
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* portdirect marks sbezverk_ on the naughty list :)19:17
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sbezverk_portdirect: yep, no christmas gifts for me!!19:18
kfox1111portdirect: you better put me on the same list then. ;)19:18
portdirectnah your both cool :)19:19
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* portdirect marks kevin on the *really* naughy list19:20
kfox1111hehe19:20
kfox1111he's on to me....19:20
kfox1111portdirect: sbezverk_: going to make it to the ptg?19:20
portdirectdont think so :( though I'm trying to pull together time/funds19:22
sbezverk_kfox1111: probably not, it would require sdake to my manager, so she would let me go. do not know if he agrees to do it ;-)19:22
sbezverk_I meant to talk to my manager19:22
kfox1111bummer. :/19:22
sdake2hq5/19:22
sdakeWHAT?19:22
sdakei am not a people manager19:22
sdakeok - sorry catching up19:23
sdakesbezverk_ lets take that internal19:23
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/kolla: Allow for externally managed configuration  https://review.openstack.org/33259019:24
kfox1111sdake: +1 to trying to get sbezverk_ to the ptg. :)19:24
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kfox1111I'm stil trying to get arangments myself, but no roadblocks yet. so looking hopeful.19:25
srwilkers_as long as nothing drastic changes before then, i think i should be attending19:25
kfox1111srwilkers_: nice. :)19:25
sbezverk_sdake: right but you can convience her ;-)19:27
portdirectwithout the commerical aspect of the summit its a lot harder for me to justify unfortunatly :/19:27
srwilkers_portdirect, i was curious if that was going to affect some individual's ability to attend19:27
srwilkers_sad to see it being the case19:27
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/kolla: Allow for externally managed configuration  https://review.openstack.org/33259019:29
kfox1111portdirect: I was abje to argue that the commertial aspects of it are directly related to ongoing development. and if development isn't assisted with our needed feedback, we may suffer.19:29
mliima_somebody knows why showmout -e fails when I ran within cinder_volume container?19:32
sbezverk_kfox1111: I hit interesting issue. do you have a comple of minutes to chat?19:33
kfox1111sure. whats up?19:33
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sbezverk_kfox1111: we use env variable to pass password info when a service gets its DB created. works fine for all services since it is passed as $password var and bash can substitute it with right value19:35
kfox1111right19:36
sbezverk_but for mariadb we do not have command where we can use it19:36
kfox1111one sec.19:36
sbezverk_we just pass env var with password value19:36
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment.yaml to _common_api_python_deployment.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/40816519:37
sbezverk_it seems when I try to instantiate this env variable from secret mapped to nev var directly. it does not pick it up19:37
kfox1111someone showed up in my office. will read in 2 min.19:38
sbezverk_http://paste.openstack.org/show/591713/19:39
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openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567719:43
kfox1111ok. back.19:44
kfox1111sry.19:44
kfox1111that part should work. I'm more wondering if its getting munged on the way.19:45
kfox1111have the review thats a part of link handy?19:45
kfox1111more context might help.19:46
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kfox1111I'm kind of in a similar space right now, doing the keystone endpoint creation stuff.19:46
kfox1111so we're probably going to run into the same issue too.19:46
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sbezverk_one sec19:47
sbezverk_https://review.openstack.org/40816019:48
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kfox1111thx19:50
kfox1111ah. thats using the bootstrap kolla flag.19:51
kfox1111I'd expect that to work as is.19:52
sbezverk_yes me too19:52
portdirectsbezverk_: weird I'm using the same statgy for db creation, but there it's getting the value and dumping it into a shell fine19:52
kfox1111is it failing in the gate?19:52
sbezverk_for mariadb there is no shell19:52
kfox1111its gota be going thorugh a shell, as its KOLLA_BOOTSTRAP=""19:53
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sbezverk_for ketstone you use $var but for mariadb these no var to pass to command line19:54
kfox1111sbezverk_: its passed directly through the var DB_ROOT_PASSWORD19:55
sbezverk_as there is no command line boot strap sits in the container19:55
sbezverk_ok my be i am missing something else will dig more thanks19:55
kfox1111sbezverk_: it goes through the default command in the container.19:55
kfox1111which ends up going through this:19:55
kfox1111https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/mariadb/extend_start.sh19:55
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qwangsbezverk_: so the password is stored in a k8s "secret" object already?20:00
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kfox1111qwang: yeah.20:02
kfox1111https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/blob/master/tools/setup_gate.sh#L12120:04
sbezverk_qwang: sorry needed to step out; yeas in jinja2 version all services except mariadb used kube secret objects20:06
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming mariadb components  https://review.openstack.org/40816020:09
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kfox1111ugg....20:16
kfox1111is openstack unified cli broken in kolla toolbox?20:16
kfox1111http://logs.openstack.org/63/408263/1/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-ubuntu-binary-ceph-nv/ca765a6/logs/pods/kolla-neutron-create-keystone-service-1xw38-main.txt20:17
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sbezverk_kfox1111: you do not need to quote description?20:18
kfox1111sbezverk_: its quoted already. the bash logger unquotes before printing. very dumb.20:18
sbezverk_kfox1111: hmm confusing a bit ..20:19
kfox1111it looks like this though: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/98071/openstack-help-command-throwing-error-argument-of-type-osc_config-is-not-iterable/ :/20:19
sbezverk_kfox1111: it looks like they need to update openstack client pip install --upgrade python-openstackclient20:20
kfox1111may be. :/20:21
kfox1111I would have thought that openstack cli would have come from pacakages though,20:21
sbezverk_kfox1111: you use 3.0.1 tag for toolbox right?20:21
kfox1111and both ubuntu and centos are affected.20:21
sbezverk_kfox1111: I saw not exactly the same but similar issue, after upgrade everything worked automagically20:22
kfox1111yeah. 3.0.120:22
kfox1111darn. we may need a 3.0.2 to fix it. :/20:22
kfox1111and, this is why I want revisions. :/20:22
kfox11113.0.1-120:23
kfox11113.0.1-220:23
kfox1111hmm.... /usr/bin/openstack is not from a package.20:24
kfox1111arg.... and the container's set to run as user 'ansible'20:26
kfox1111:/20:26
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kfox1111and can't sudo. :/20:26
kfox1111the other alternative is to skip the toolbox and use a different container. :/20:27
kfox1111ok... upgrade did fix it. :/20:28
kfox1111so, I need to force the container to run as root, then do an upgrade in it, until we can get a fixed container. :/20:28
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add neutron keystone service/endpoint creation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/40826320:34
openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Clean up kolla-ansible related files  https://review.openstack.org/40642920:38
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sdakeok kfox111120:42
sdakegot clarity on the relesae model20:42
sdakeJeffrey4l ^^20:42
kfox1111yeah? whats the deal? :)20:42
sdakei'll send the log to the mailing list20:42
sdakewith a TLDR20:42
sdakethe log is for context20:42
sdakesending email now20:42
kfox1111k. cool.20:42
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sdakei misunderstood release independent and we have been tracking our schedule according to release-cycle-trailing20:43
sdakeread the log plz - it will help you understand20:43
sdakeactually I cant do it now20:43
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sdakei have 1;120:44
kfox1111waiting for it to show. :)20:44
sdakewill do after i pick up my kids20:44
kfox1111k.20:44
sdakeif you want a sneak peak check out the logs for openstack-release on eavesdrop.openstack.org20:44
sdakejust serach for kolla20:44
sdakeit just happened now20:44
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sbezverk_kfox1111: man, this release name is killing me :-( in my test bed, I deleted mariadb-pvc release name, helm show it as delete, but when I try to install new one using the same name it fails saying that release name is already used, it is freaking deleted!!!20:46
jascott1sbezverk_ you have todo purge20:46
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sbezverk_jascott1: really ?!?!?!20:47
jascott1helm delete --purge20:47
sbezverk_it sounds like windows now, are you sure you want to delete it??20:47
portdirectsbezverk_: as jascott1 says you need to purge a release, this is a nightmare for development but will be quite nice for a production system20:47
jascott1lol20:47
kfox1111sbezverk_: are you on 2.0.1+?20:48
kfox1111I think 2.0.0 and below had a delete bug.20:48
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kfox1111jascott1: purge?20:48
kfox1111oh, really? ugg.20:48
jascott1ya so if you delete a release, it stays in history and name is taken unless you use --purge20:48
kfox1111I wonder why they did that.20:48
jascott1i think they were really thinking more like docker auto gen'd names where you dont care about the name but idk20:49
kfox1111is there an undo delete? :)20:49
portdirectit's because delete doesnt really delete it but simpley remove the dolyment from the cluster - so I think its possible to undelete afterwards (so again we are in the world of things not being quite what they say on the tin, but i digress...)20:49
jascott1i havent tried undo20:49
sbezverk_kfox1111: I am on 2.0.2, but man purge after delete, give me a break :-(20:50
kfox1111sbezverk_: yeah. thats kind of lame.20:50
kfox1111sbezverk_: something we should bring up with the helm devs.20:50
jascott1seems to me it should be more like image naming where you have a :<version> on the end20:51
portdirectjascott1: I think thats the idea20:51
kfox1111sdake: thanks for the link. thats the outcome I was hoping for.20:51
sbezverk_kfox1111: I mean we can always just unconditionally add --purge keyword20:51
kfox1111sdake: and ofr asking the questions.20:52
kfox1111sbezverk_: yeah, thats what I'd recommmend for now. as thats the behavior I was expecting out of the box.20:52
sbezverk_jascott1: hopefully you have answer and for this one. when pvc ghets deleted, it does not seem to get properly disconnected from used PV20:53
sbezverk_so next pvc get stuck in pending state20:53
sbezverk_have you seen something like this?20:53
sbezverk_kfox1111: I will add --purge to all helm delete I used in ceph workflow20:54
kfox1111sbezverk_: ok. sounds like a plan. I'll do the same.20:54
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Change _common_deployment to _common_api_python_deployment  https://review.openstack.org/40816520:56
portdirectkfox1111/sbezverk_: out of interest why do we delete jobs after they have run?20:57
kfox1111portdirect: no reason to leave them running.20:57
jascott1sbezverk_ sorry nowhere near ceph competent yet :/  isnt that lock issue well known tho or this different?20:57
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portdirectkfox1111: but after they have run they are not running anymore - but we are deleting the record of them having run - which will break dependancy checking using kube-entrypoint (or whatever its called now) and make operator(vessels) harder to write i think.20:59
kfox1111portdirect: yeah, leaveing them will be important for kube-entrypoint deps.21:00
kfox1111I don't plan on using them,21:00
kfox1111and I really don't want them on my system laying around.21:01
kfox1111seems like a loaded gun.21:01
kfox1111I plan to remove credentials needed by the job after they are run too.21:01
kfox1111so maybe a little less of an issue.21:01
portdirectkfox1111: np, again just a difference of opinon :)21:01
kfox1111yup.21:01
kfox1111I don't really trust kube-entrypoint too far either. it requies a lot more things to have k8s credentials.21:02
kfox1111the same issues can be solved in other ways without it.21:02
kfox1111just my 2 cents.21:02
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portdirectremoving the creds/screts will prevent them being able to run again - thats what I do with my k8s systems - so I maintain the visibility of what has happened on the cluster since its inception but remove the bullets from the guns :)21:03
jascott1ugh "Error: transport is closing"21:03
* jascott1 beats himself to death with an empty gun21:04
portdirectyeah - as you know I'm not totaly sold on the kube-entrypoint either, but cleaning up like this in gate tests will prevent us using it there - so we'll prob need to review that when we get it added in21:04
portdirectjascott1: can you get logs from tiller as it dies?21:04
kfox1111portdirect: I've always kind of assumed I'd be able to redeploy from a snapshot of the r unning k8s objects.21:04
kfox1111jobs won't work that way though.21:04
kfox1111portdirect: we can make deletion a testable thing.21:05
jascott1portdirect its from the gate21:05
klindgrenso coming back to this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332590/ We have ran into an issue where https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/roles/glance/templates/glance-api.json.j2 is actually missing files that need to be managed in our config.21:05
portdirectkfox1111: +1 on testing options :)21:06
portdirectjascott1: urgh - thats not good :/21:06
klindgrenlike glance-swift.conf and glance-api-paste.ini21:06
jascott1portdirect: ya if you get that you have to run recheck :(21:06
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kfox1111jascott1: this started happening shortly after we started using helm. never saw it pre'helm.21:08
portdirectjascott1: weird that it fails for all of them21:08
kfox1111jascott1: I'm still wondering if its actually helm related. still could be a race condition elsewhere though. hard to say.21:08
jascott1i like me some golang, might take a stroll thru helm code again and see whats what21:09
portdirectthough looking thorugh the logs its seems really weird that each one has failed with a different error: http://logs.openstack.org/77/405677/9/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-ubuntu-binary-ceph-nv/6d15920/console.html#_2016-12-07_19_54_09_69826421:11
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hel-ming mariadb components  https://review.openstack.org/40816021:12
portdirecthttp://logs.openstack.org/77/405677/9/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-ceph-multi-nv/f436bc5/console.html#_2016-12-07_20_05_03_96506221:12
kfox1111this looks weird:21:12
kfox1111http://logs.openstack.org/77/405677/9/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-ubuntu-binary-ceph-nv/6d15920/console.html#_2016-12-07_19_54_09_54719021:12
kfox1111it tries creating mariadb and says it already exists.21:13
kfox1111oh. this:21:13
kfox1111http://logs.openstack.org/77/405677/9/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-ubuntu-binary-ceph-nv/6d15920/console.html#_2016-12-07_19_54_03_18255321:13
jascott1maybe we can get helm upstream to give more info21:13
sbezverk_kfox1111: we need to reboot the gate ;-) it is really really strange21:13
kfox1111it is launching with both helm and kollakube21:13
portdirectkfoxx1111: that will do it21:14
sbezverk_kfox1111: another possibility is the collateral from merge conflicts21:16
sbezverk_if both versions were combined while resolving merge conflict then it could happen21:17
sbezverk_to have both rabbitmq launched as helm and as old21:17
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kfox1111possible. though I think we've only been touching one set of objects and converting them at the same time.21:18
srwilkers_hey kfox1111 sbezverk_: im going through the changes ive got watched. with helm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316850/5 isnt relevant anymore correct?21:19
srwilkers_just wanted to be sure21:19
kfox1111for every change to add a helm install, there should be a corisponding removing from kollakube21:19
kfox1111sbezverk_: yeah, thats so old we probably just just abandon it and start over.21:19
kfox1111sry.21:20
srwilkers_your statement just cleared that up for me kfox1111. thanks21:20
kfox1111srwilkers_: I meant21:20
srwilkers_yeah, was going to suggest abandoning it21:20
portdirectthink sbezverk_'s probably hit the nail on the head - jascott1 did you rebase?21:20
openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Clean up kolla-ansible related files  https://review.openstack.org/40642921:20
jascott1portdirect yes21:22
portdirectjascott1: think I've found it - just commented in your ps21:22
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add neutron keystone service/endpoint creation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/40826321:23
jascott1portdirect that shouldnt be interfering with others tho right?21:23
portdirectjascott1: no but it explains why your gates are failing - as the ceph_workflow.sh you have is a combination of diffrent generations21:24
jascott1ok thanks21:25
jascott1i mustve foobar merge conflict21:25
portdirectnp - I usually mess them up as well :)21:25
sbezverk_:-)21:26
sbezverk_why do you think I suggested it ;-)21:27
sbezverk_been there done that21:27
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openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567721:35
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v1k0d3nsbezverk_: is it documented somewhere in kolla what the build options are exactly in kolla-build.conf21:35
v1k0d3nor anyone really21:37
v1k0d3n?21:37
openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567721:37
v1k0d3ni have what i think should be in there...but...i think my flags are wrong21:37
openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567721:40
jascott1_portdirect thanks for all the help21:41
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jascott1_and srwilkers_ thanks!21:42
srwilkers_jascott1_, happy to help, cheers :)21:42
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portdirectjascott1_: np dude - fingers crossed it goes through this time :)21:46
jascott1_;)21:46
kfox1111shouldn't keystone show up in the catalog?21:49
jascott1_it should right?21:52
kfox1111alittle weirded out by this one:21:52
kfox1111https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408263/21:52
kfox1111http://logs.openstack.org/63/408263/3/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-external-ovs-nv/ac98ceb/logs/21:53
kfox1111openstack catalog is showing up with nothing.21:53
kfox1111and openstack service create is failing: http://logs.openstack.org/63/408263/3/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-external-ovs-nv/ac98ceb/logs/pods/kolla-neutron-create-keystone-service-jtxsj-main.txt21:53
kfox1111the keystone enndpoint creation job claims to have worked though.21:55
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Keystone Helm Packaging  https://review.openstack.org/40778022:03
portdirectkfox1111: yeah keystone should def be in the catalog - I'll have a look and see if anything pops out22:04
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add neutron keystone service/endpoint creation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/40826322:05
portdirectkfox1111: running helm install with --debug may make debugging easier in the gate (I've been using it and 'kollakube template' to confim that helm is generating what I expect)22:05
kfox1111portdirect: I put in a capture of the equiv previously. every pod running is in the pods.yaml file.22:07
kfox1111and the kube display pod * is in pods/22:08
kfox1111I haven't needed debug then.22:08
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kfox1111so.... complete tangent...22:10
kfox1111it sounsd like it is possible to put zuul jobs in that cache things, and pull them from other jobs.22:10
kfox1111trove looks to be doing it.22:10
kfox1111so we can cache up stuf like pregen'ed /etc/kolla dirs.22:11
portdirectid be looking at python-openstackclient at a possible candiate here, verything else seems ok? :/22:11
kfox1111which should shave off a couple minutes at least off the gate.22:11
kfox1111portdirect: yeah. I'm still suspecting it.22:11
kfox1111portdirect: like, its itself throwing an error if it sees no non keystone entries.22:11
kfox1111but: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/keystone-services.html22:11
jascott1_yay memcached passed22:12
kfox1111seems to make it sound like it should work.22:12
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srwilkers_jascott1_, \o/22:13
kfox1111and the job does run after keystone-entry' job runs.22:13
kfox1111so there should be some of those.22:13
portdirectkfox1111: i'd be temepted to try with a 'openstack service list' just to see how it reacts to that?22:13
kfox1111as apaosed to catalog list?22:14
kfox1111cause its doing the latter on gate https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/blob/master/tests/bin/gate_capture_logs.sh#L5922:15
kfox1111and it came up blank.22:15
portdirectkfox1111: sry meant 'catalog list'22:15
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portdirecthmm22:16
kfox1111hmmm....22:17
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kfox1111one of the commands threw this though: 2016-12-07 21:43:35.408559 | Missing value auth-url required for auth plugin password22:18
kfox1111not sure which though.22:18
kfox1111so could be not caputring becuase of that. :/22:18
kfox1111yeah. looks like it came from there.22:19
kfox1111probably because the rc file wasn't built yet...22:19
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kfox1111yup... its built riht after enpoint creation... I should move that up....22:20
kfox1111oh... hmm...22:20
kfox1111domains might be diffreent here....22:21
kfox1111local admin keystonerc has OS_USEDR_DOMAIN_NAME=Default.22:21
kfox1111and that works.22:21
kfox1111but I think the other value I saw was =default.22:21
portdirectthats what i suspected for 2 mins22:21
portdirectbut usually keystone paps Default to default unless things have changed22:21
portdirect*maps22:21
kfox1111well, I think its usually a little wierder then that.22:22
kfox1111I think they use the id=default and the name=Default.22:23
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portdirectthe only real diff i can see is that the old one did not set the value for OS_PROJECT_DOMAIN_NAME/OS_USER_DOMAIN_NAME ? though I'm still parsing22:23
kfox1111so if you don't specify you want specifically id or name, then either work.22:23
portdirectkfox1111: thats correct22:23
portdirectit was to help the migration from v2 to v322:23
portdirectso both should work unless python-openstackclient's being weird again22:24
kfox1111arg... here's a helm crash... http://logs.openstack.org/63/408263/4/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-ceph-multi-nv/4aaac3d/console.html22:24
kfox1111ok. moved the catalog list up, and changed it to Default instead... lets see where this goes...22:26
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portdirectno helm debugging without a working k8s api - thats no fun :(22:31
portdirecti just want to render a chart...22:31
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srwilkers_nothing more embarrassing than not refreshing the page and doing a review on a patch set thats hours old22:34
srwilkers_oops22:34
jascott1_yup done that a couple times this week but one case it was only minutes old22:34
srwilkers_yeahhh22:34
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v1k0d3nhey portdirect and srwilkers_ soooo....ceph for halcyon.22:35
portdirectv1k0d3n: yep22:35
v1k0d3nthat's working for you, right?22:35
kfox1111portdirect: yeah. that bites me hard. I develop kolla-kubernetes on a secondary user. so I22:36
kfox1111often have to build the package, then helm install --debug it from a different user.22:36
kfox1111as it must have a live tiller to work against. :/22:36
portdirectv1k0d3n: yeah i've had it working, both with your aic-helm stuff, ceph upstream and kollakube on centos based halycon22:37
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portdirectv1k0d3n: though not yet made the progress I'd like on kolla-helm22:37
v1k0d3nportdirect: please take whatever you want out of our repo22:37
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add neutron keystone service/endpoint creation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/40826322:37
v1k0d3nsrwilkers_ is dedicated to doing this. prob could use help with how quickly things are going...and we mean for that all to just be in kolla at some point to22:38
kfox1111portdirect: kolla-helm?22:38
portdirectkfox1111: you know what I mean :)22:38
v1k0d3ndon't want to have a "forever" poc out there. we're telling everyone else to do in kolla-kube too.22:38
v1k0d3nnot everyone has execs saying "NOW!" :)22:39
kfox1111portdirect: ok. just handn't heard the term. was wondiering if it was something new. :)22:39
kfox1111v1k0d3n: :)22:39
jascott1_bb 15m22:39
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/kolla: Refactor copy so that it shows recursive files copied  https://review.openstack.org/40833622:40
v1k0d3nkolla-helm? did i miss something big.22:41
kfox1111if we could precache the genconfig, the kubernetes packages and some of the containers, we might be able to shave off 8-10 minutes at least off the gate.22:41
kfox1111v1k0d3n: I don't think so.22:41
kfox1111I think he was just reffering to the kolla-kubernetes helm stuff.22:42
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openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: Clean up kolla-ansible related files from Kolla  https://review.openstack.org/40642922:42
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srwilkers_off to the office holiday party -- be back later this evening :)22:45
kfox1111have fun. :)22:45
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portdirectv1k0d3n: yeah was just abberviating what kfox111 just said - sorry if it created confusion22:48
v1k0d3noh yeah22:48
v1k0d3nactually i like it!22:48
v1k0d3nlol22:48
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v1k0d3nso question...22:48
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v1k0d3n(oh boy...here it comes...are you all sitting?)22:49
v1k0d3nyou are...22:49
v1k0d3nall...sitting, right?22:49
* portdirect stands up22:49
v1k0d3ncrap22:49
* v1k0d3n waits22:49
* portdirect sits back down22:49
v1k0d3nanyway....we're planning on including this upstream in kubernetes/charts at the end stage, right?22:49
* v1k0d3n jokes too much22:49
v1k0d3nBUT NOT ABOUT THAT /me referring to portdirect22:50
kfox1111possibly I think. if kubernetes/chart's build system can mature a bit or helm grows enough support for it.22:50
v1k0d3nkubernetes/charts makes the most sense. that's what we talked about a while back22:50
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v1k0d3nok...cool. i just wanted to make sure.22:50
v1k0d3nwhat do you mean "grows enough"?22:51
kfox1111curently, their build system assumes a single build at a time, and requires binaries to be pulled for deps,22:51
kfox1111even if the source is right in the same repo.22:51
kfox1111so makes it really hard to build the whole repo. :/22:51
v1k0d3nyou mean have a master chart that deploys, and still deploy each individual components right? the "helm of helms" if you will?22:51
kfox1111no, like,22:51
portdirectv1k0d3n: yeah that would be the ideal - possibly we could create meta charts for there that pull in carts direct from here?22:51
kfox1111the you have say a wiki chart. it depends on mariadb.22:51
v1k0d3nportdirect: so we're doing that. that's our goal.22:52
kfox1111they have a dep on mariadb that points directly to google's binary helm repo with a prebuilt chart.22:52
kfox1111so you can't update the mariadb chart, and then rebuild all the things that its embeded in easily. :/22:52
v1k0d3nthat's what we're currently solving fwiw.22:52
kfox1111(think, mariadb security issue)22:52
kfox1111yeah.22:52
v1k0d3nany outliers we want to start opening up issues, but this can be done currently today.22:53
portdirecti think this is where the operator/vessel will come into its own22:53
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kfox1111operators/vessels/orchestrators/whatever are a different thing.22:53
kfox1111the thingy would be in this build repo as well.22:53
v1k0d3ndon't use operator for that.22:53
v1k0d3njust sayng22:53
v1k0d3noperators are unicorns.22:53
* v1k0d3n wishes i didn't bring up operators.22:54
kfox1111operators shouldn't be building new packages. only laucnhing existing/tested ones  Ithink.22:54
kfox1111(with a possible exception of a config pachage... haven't really throught through that one)22:54
v1k0d3noperators should repair things if/when they go down...in place of a human operator.22:54
v1k0d3nex...22:54
kfox1111package22:54
portdirecti was meaning to manage the issue that kfox1111 reased re package management - I would not want them building new ones22:54
v1k0d3ngalera cluster member goes down. there are predefined steps that need to occur, and can be leveraged to typically bring back a member.22:55
kfox1111yeah.22:55
kfox1111right.22:55
kfox1111I think helm needs ralitive dependency support, which would go a long way in solving the issue.22:56
kfox1111some kind of value dependency handling too.22:57
kfox1111"merge child's values into my values, instead of hanging them of of globals or a child key"22:57
v1k0d3nkfox1111 you've been keeping up with alan? have you run the pic?22:57
v1k0d3npoc22:58
v1k0d3njust want to stay close22:58
v1k0d3ntbh...i do NOT want to stray or have to stray.22:58
kfox1111havent seen him in a while.22:58
v1k0d3nplease don't make us stray...22:58
v1k0d3nwell, we're busy.22:58
kfox1111yeah. I get that.22:58
v1k0d3nwe need srwilkers to keep eyes on it :)22:58
kfox1111I wana make sure you have what you need.22:58
v1k0d3nand ditto22:58
* kfox1111 nods22:58
* v1k0d3n feels the love among this group22:59
v1k0d3nok cool. just keep checking (if you can/have time) to exchange22:59
v1k0d3ni just put our PM to create a kanban board out on github projects so the mission, goals, work...is all clearer.22:59
kfox1111working like mad right now to just get the existing stuff over to helm asap.22:59
v1k0d3nso any eyes can seriously pluck work from one to the other22:59
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kfox1111cool.23:00
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v1k0d3nyeah, i get that. let srwilkers know where we can help.23:00
* v1k0d3n shamelessly pluggin' steve in for more work23:00
kfox1111k23:01
kfox1111basically thats where we're at though. just churning through the jinja2 -> helm stuff. so anything not currently in progress is fair game.23:02
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kfox1111weird...23:03
kfox1111http://logs.openstack.org/63/408263/5/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-ubuntu-binary-ceph-nv/ef2a866/logs/pods/kolla-neutron-create-keystone-endpoint-public-8tqdc-main.txt23:03
kfox1111I think that one may lead some credence to the, dns is not ready when it says it is theory.23:04
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kfox1111ok... so, got the end point catalog back. there's stuff in it... so openstack cli in the container's not quite right... seems like config probably...23:07
jascott1kfox1111 wrt "{{- include "common_containers" . | indent 8 }}" and $env, it does exist in tree like in rabbit23:08
kfox1111jascott1: k. we should fix rabbit then too. I think its wrong too.23:09
jascott1should they all be $env and no "." ?23:09
kfox1111if the with is defining $env, then we should pass $env.23:09
jascott1got it thanks23:09
openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567723:11
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add neutron keystone service/endpoint creation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/40826323:11
jascott1kfox1111 i think I got what you wanted back ^23:11
kfox1111yeah. looks better.23:12
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kfox1111can you please have a look at what resourceName is used for in common lib too?23:12
kfox1111not sure if it needs to be unique per element.23:12
jascott1ah crap forgot that one thanks23:12
kfox1111and slide up a line 2 lines up.23:14
kfox1111then I think its mergable. :)23:14
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kfox1111jascott1: looks like resourceName is used for the logger config name.23:16
jascott1so make it element name?23:16
kfox1111which, I don't know. coudl go either way I guess.23:16
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kfox1111would we want a different set of logging rules per the same type? I"m guessing not.23:17
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sdakekfox1111 no problem23:17
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kfox1111sdake: wb23:17
sdakekfox1111 lagging a bit here - wife out of town traveling - have kids on my own :)23:17
kfox1111sdake: yeah. I know how that can be. :)23:17
kfox1111no wories.23:18
kfox1111jascott1: I think we're probably fine with resourceName. we can revisit it later I think.23:18
sdakeand pretty soon have to jet to feed em and fix my father nad mother's computer23:18
jascott1ok23:18
kfox1111jascott1: so, just that one line move, and we're good  Ithink.23:18
openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567723:19
kfox1111oh. and an updated commit message.23:19
kfox1111:)23:19
jascott1drats!23:19
kfox1111hehe23:19
sdakeok - gotta jet to feed the kids23:19
sdakebbiaf23:19
pronanyone familiar with maas? atm i am trying to figure out how to prepare disks for kolla ceph with maas ( gpt with labels )23:19
openstackgerritJustin Scott proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567723:19
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kfox1111pron: no, sorry. been actively avoiding it.23:20
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pronkfox1111: what do you use ?23:20
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kfox1111just using cobbler for now, but would really like to get to ironic.23:20
kfox1111as then I can make bare metal services more easily available to my users.23:21
pronoh my blood pressure went off instantly when i saw gui of cobbler23:21
kfox1111and I don't have to switch between different software stacks.23:21
kfox1111pron: heh. thats probably true. I don't use gui's much.23:22
kfox1111I want to be able to "for x in seq 1 1000`; do cobbler system edit --name=cn$x ...."23:22
proncant say cli worked for me ;D23:23
pronwas erroring out about random shit23:23
pronanyways23:23
kfox1111gui's are natirousyly bad at managing stuff at scale (usually :)23:23
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pronthen again there are coworkers i would be able to deleagte some responsibilites if i had gui23:24
kfox1111yeah. I get that.23:24
kfox1111jascott1: workflowed.23:25
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jascott1woot i say! woot.23:26
wirehead_Ah, there’s one problem I was about to mention with the memcached, kfox1111 / jascott123:27
kfox1111wirehead_: oh, yeah?23:27
* jascott1 shakes fist at sky23:28
kfox1111hehe23:28
wirehead_We probably need to encourage the user to be careful with the memcached.23:28
kfox1111wirehead_: generally true. :)23:28
kfox1111but in which partuclar way are you concerned?23:28
wirehead_Oh, so we’re still exposing memcached as a kube service, right?23:28
kfox1111yeah.23:29
wirehead_Okay, you can only have one memcached instance. :/23:29
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kfox1111right.23:29
kfox1111well,23:29
wirehead_There’s a comment with no explanation in the etc/ dir23:29
kfox1111one instance per service.23:29
wirehead_Yah.23:29
kfox1111jascott1: yeah, maybe a followon patch that just hardcodes the replica's to 1?23:30
jascott1ok23:30
kfox1111I can't think of a case where != would work or be desirable.23:31
wirehead_Sorry ‘bout that.  It was sticking in my head, but I’d wanted to make sure I knew the context and took a brief period of time today to do so… and then realized you’d literally just workflow+1’d it.23:31
kfox1111the user can always launch multiple elements to gain that functionality.23:31
kfox1111wirehead_: no worries. :)23:31
kfox1111thanks for bringing it up.23:31
wirehead_Left to my own devices, I’d either look into memcached proxies or just make the supported config use something that’s more amenable to kube usage.23:31
kfox1111wirehead_: yeah. memcached's always made me a little unsettled.23:32
kfox1111its has some big *'s in its documentation, left up as an excersize to the reader.23:32
kfox1111and then most people just ignore it.23:32
wirehead_Well, there was a day where memcached was the only game in town that wasn’t something secret and proprietary.23:32
kfox1111yeah.23:33
kfox1111even with the *'s, its quite usable.23:33
kfox1111but I'd like to see each project that uses it, explain how they are meeting the requirements.23:33
kfox1111cause if they get one little thing wrong.... :)23:33
wirehead_There’s a few teams where I want to sit them down, ascertain if they understand what the word “linearizable” means, and then make me explain their concurrency model in terms of such.23:34
kfox1111hmm... much further this time... almost there...23:34
kfox1111wirehead_: hehe. yeah.23:34
kfox1111but... but... you just shuvel stuf into memcached, and... fast! :)23:35
wirehead_But, yah, as the maniac who crowbarred memcached to fit inside of a kube service the first time, well done, jascott1 :)23:36
kfox1111I just threw up in my mouth a little. :)23:36
jascott1lol23:36
kfox1111helm package.23:36
kfox1111its been in kolla-kubernetes for a while.23:37
kfox1111in fact, I found a race condition in keystone with it on. :/23:37
kfox1111it caches endpoints and doesn't invalidate properly. :/23:37
wirehead_Yah.  Dims made the service, I made it work as a kube service as part of the mannic hackery some months ago, and now jascott1 made it work as a helm package. :)23:37
kfox1111so if you create endpoints in parallel too fast, it can miss some in subsequent commands. :/23:37
wirehead_Heh.23:38
jascott1wirehead_ shoulders of giants over here but thanks23:38
kfox1111I had to explicitly disable memcached in the gate. :/23:38
kfox1111memcached for keystone in the gate that is.23:38
wirehead_Don’t think of yourself as sitting on the shoulders of giants.  Think of yourself as being the viking-style helmet with horns that completes the badass look.23:38
wirehead_:D23:38
jascott1haha awesome23:39
jascott1where would we be without our viking *helm* ?23:39
kfox1111hehe23:40
wirehead_I think I’m not a fan of blindly caching things in the data layer.23:40
kfox1111oh.... so close: http://logs.openstack.org/63/408263/6/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-ceph-nv/a79234b/logs/openstack-catalog.txt23:40
kfox1111somehow region didn't make it.23:40
kfox1111probably because I didn't specify it... but I would have expected it to use OS_REGION_NAME.23:41
kfox1111hmm...23:41
wirehead_Plus, with Redis the way it is, you can probably use some of the data structures instead of using a blind k-v cache anyway.23:41
jascott1redis rocks23:42
kfox1111redis is on my to look at list at some point.23:42
jascott1hmm should prob just make the bot say that since someone always seems to say it23:42
kfox1111killed a lot of time on various nosql stuff though.23:42
jascott1ugh r23:42
kfox1111mongodb turned out less useful then I had hoped. :/23:42
jascott1was interested and then all the nightmare came out about it23:43
jascott1table locks23:43
jascott1nice api tho23:43
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add neutron keystone service/endpoint creation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/40826323:43
jascott1couch was cool but seem they couldnt get the x data center replication worked out23:44
wirehead_The CMS I wrote for my website because I’m too obsessive to use Wordpress uses PostgreSQL + Redis.23:44
kfox1111if this works, then it shoudl clean up the codee base a lot. :)23:44
wirehead_For the most part, the requirement is that the Redis is either transient storage that it shouldn’t matter if it gets zapped or a cache atop postgresql.23:45
jascott1great for tokens and such with the TTL built in23:46
jascott1hey anyone got any ideas to make the bot useful? couple ppl mentioned it in the meeting this morning23:48
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jascott1i think it was srwilkers and ryan23:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm-ize memcached  https://review.openstack.org/40567723:52
jascott1yay!23:53
wirehead_YAY!23:54
jascott1Thank you everyone for all the help getting my first patch into the kolla world!23:54
jascott1For real, this is a great community. Im very proud to be here.23:55
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kfox1111jascott1: congrats. :)23:59
kfox1111thanks for sticking with it. :)23:59
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