Tuesday, 2016-09-27

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kfox1111sbezverk_: that sounds good to me.00:02
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding logging to kolla-kubernetes services  https://review.openstack.org/37710400:16
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla: WIP Adds Fluentd service to Kolla  https://review.openstack.org/37561500:18
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding logging to kolla-kubernetes services  https://review.openstack.org/37710400:21
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding logging to kolla-kubernetes services  https://review.openstack.org/37710400:41
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duonghqmorning01:04
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duonghqsdake: ping01:11
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sdakeshoot01:11
duonghqwhy we run haproxy only on network group?01:11
sdakei was pretty ure pual moved it to the contorller group01:11
sdakebut maybe that didn't happen01:11
sdakepbourke that is01:11
duonghqya, in latest source, it's still in network group01:13
sdakeok01:13
sdakewell i'm sure pbourke was working on it, and if he didn't finish it its either in review queue or there was a reason01:13
sdakeinc0 also aware of this issue01:13
sdakethey were debating it01:13
sdaketo me, doesn't really matter as long as it works ;)01:14
sdakebut pbourke and inc0 closer to that particular piece of work01:14
sdakepbourke had indicated running haproxy on controller node was more effecient and conidered best practice01:15
sdakethat  argueemnt works for me01:15
duonghqya,01:15
sdakeeveyron really buy - maybe he just didn't get to it yet01:16
sdakemight look in the queue if its present01:16
duonghqbut haproxy and keepalived do not need to run on every node?01:17
sdakeno01:17
sdakenot on compute nodes01:17
duonghqevery node expect compute?01:17
sdakenot storage nodes01:17
sdakejust controller nodes01:17
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sdaketypically i set netowr nodes = compute nodes in my configs01:18
sdakerather controll nodes01:18
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duonghqroger, thanks01:19
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duonghqsdake: why we do not combine network and controller as in openstack (after liberty)01:29
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openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/kolla: Support Searchlight Docker container  https://review.openstack.org/37714501:57
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openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla: Remove default=None when set value in config  https://review.openstack.org/37715402:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: add upgrade.yml in congress role  https://review.openstack.org/37634702:44
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duonghqdo we support Ceph Jewel?03:29
sdakeyup03:29
duonghqroger03:32
openstackgerritdupengfei proposed openstack/kolla: Fix keystone,database,memcache for k8s.  https://review.openstack.org/37208903:33
zhubingbingheke and cron what different03:33
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Jeffrey4lzhubingbing, heka is a log collector and cron is crontab who run jobs regularly.03:42
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duonghqJeffrey4l, which host distro do you use for OSIC test?03:59
duonghqsorry I cannot remmeber03:59
Jeffrey4lduonghq, ubuntu 14.0403:59
duonghqthank Jeffrey4l04:00
Jeffrey4lnp :)04:00
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openstackgerritTuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/kolla: TrivialFix: Remove default=None when set value in Config  https://review.openstack.org/37720504:02
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duonghqsdake: seem that nobody backported https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360218/ to mitaka and l04:48
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bjolomorning05:14
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bdacahello bjolo05:19
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: add aodh gnocchi barbican in heka.json.j2  https://review.openstack.org/37724105:23
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add a note for how to get prior release kolla doc  https://review.openstack.org/37652505:27
bjolosup bdaca05:30
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bdacabjolo everything OK in here, thx! (such reflex!) :) how are you today? still coping with long updates?06:11
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bjolohehe06:11
bjoloim good :)06:11
bjoloi have a workaround for reconfigure, that i actually like better06:12
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bjoloCOPY_ALWAYS policy. kolla-ansible genconfig; docker restart <container>06:12
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bjolothat way i can review the generated config before activating it.06:13
bjoloand it is also way faster. genconfig takes about 2min.06:13
bjoloi also have version control (etckeeper) on the target nodes, so i can roll back a config change quickly. after each genconfig, i run ansible -i inventory -m command -a "etckeeper commit -m 'snapshot'"06:16
bdacasounds like a good idea, i will have a look on it, maybe i should use it too06:18
MarMatbdaca ping06:26
bdacaMarMat pong06:26
MarMatbdaca are you sure that os_admin module can be used for domain create? http://paste.openstack.org/show/582986/06:27
MarMatbdaca it's not working for me06:27
MarMatbdaca domain must exist for that already06:27
MarMatbdaca i mean os_user module06:28
bdacaMarMat no no, this can be used for IDs retrieving... thought that you will use kolla_toolbox for creation06:31
MarMatbdaca oh, ok...06:32
MarMatbdaca but then it can be read also from the toolbox module.06:32
bdacasorry, I should be more precise, hope you didn't lose too much time becouse of that06:32
MarMatI already have patchset ready for that testing...06:32
bdacas/becouse/because/06:33
MarMatbdaca no problem06:33
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla: Add bootstrap_service.yml to upgrade.yml  https://review.openstack.org/37727306:46
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egonzalez90morning guys!07:04
openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: remove bootstrap.yml in grafana role upgrade.yml  https://review.openstack.org/37591307:05
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zhubingbingmorning07:05
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: change perm and user wsgi file permission  https://review.openstack.org/37531307:11
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: DO_NOT_MERGE: Use better URL for China  https://review.openstack.org/32906007:27
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: add sahara port prechecks  https://review.openstack.org/37730607:53
openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: add sahara port prechecks  https://review.openstack.org/37730608:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: add aodh gnocchi barbican in heka.json.j2  https://review.openstack.org/37724108:08
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openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/kolla: Support Searchlight Docker container  https://review.openstack.org/37714508:24
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: test  https://review.openstack.org/37735508:41
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duonghqis there anyway to deploy Ceph Hammer using Kolla 2.0.2 (stable/mitaka)08:44
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duonghqI guess the answer is no?08:45
bdacaduonghq isn't Hammer deployed on stable/mitaka?08:45
duonghqSorry, I mean Jewel08:45
bdacaduonghq officially no, unofficially you can change it on your own08:46
duonghqthank bdaca08:46
duonghqso it is  quite tricky here08:47
openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: test  https://review.openstack.org/37736108:48
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla: Add aodh checking to port_checks.yml  https://review.openstack.org/37736408:49
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Fix mistral service  https://review.openstack.org/37492109:40
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/kolla: Add reconfigure file to Congress  https://review.openstack.org/37741209:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: add sahara port prechecks  https://review.openstack.org/37730609:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: add reconfigure.yml in congress role  https://review.openstack.org/37642109:49
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37598910:00
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berendthi10:10
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sdakemorning folks10:44
jmccarthyo/10:44
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sdakehey jmccarthy10:50
sdakei had removed you from the kolla-drivers team becauseyou seemed a bitinctive, i can add you back in if you like10:50
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jmccarthysdake: Oh I don't blame you ! Hard to make time for everything :/10:57
sdaketell me about it :)10:57
jmccarthyOk - Alright I won't ;) , I'd say go for it, but I'm not sure things will improve ..11:00
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openstackgerritKobi Samoray proposed openstack/kolla: Fix a docstring typo in build.py  https://review.openstack.org/37761311:20
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berendtis it possible to request support for our docs/docstrings/... somewhere?11:34
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ccesariomorning :)11:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix the url of Cinder endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/37516911:37
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berendthas somebody already played with https://github.com/openstack/os-faults ?11:40
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mliimamorning all12:06
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: change CollectD to collectd in collectd role  https://review.openstack.org/37624512:34
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Jeffrey4lpbourke, around?12:53
Jeffrey4lcould u check this PS. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376524/  pbourke sdake12:54
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sdakeJeffrey4l looks complicated issue12:56
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Jeffrey4lThe explain is nice. but the issue is not complicated.  it is about when to gather the ansible facts.12:56
Jeffrey4lin some case, we should ask ansible to run gather facts explicit12:59
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pbourkeJeffrey4l: will do13:14
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Jeffrey4lthanks.13:14
mewaldI am trying to hunt the error "ERROR:__main__:KOLLA_CONFIG_STRATEGY is not set properly" when starting I container. Any ideas where this is coming from? It is set properly in /etc/kolla/globals.yml13:15
Jeffrey4lmewald, if you start the container by using ansible. this variable is set automatically.13:16
Jeffrey4lmewald, or check #config_strategy: "COPY_ALWAYS" this in your globals.yml file.13:16
mewaldJeffrey4l: yeah, I am doing "./tools/kolla-ansible deploy" and it is properly set in globals.yml: config_strategy: "COPY_ALWAYS"13:17
Jeffrey4lmewald, which container raise that issue?13:18
pbourkeJeffrey4l: im having a hard time parsing what you're saying in that review13:18
mewaldJeffrey4l: I am backporting telegraf for stable/mitaka13:18
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Jeffrey4lpbourke, hmm. what we need is gather facters before the role. only add this in haproxy is not enough.13:19
Jeffrey4lother service also need this.13:19
pbourkeJeffrey4l: what andrew has there works13:19
Jeffrey4lbut run the setup explicit at the beginning will solve all the issue.13:19
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Jeffrey4lpbourke, it works but other role has such issue.13:20
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inc0good morning13:22
pbourkemorning13:22
Jeffrey4lmorning13:23
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sdakesup  peeps13:39
sdakeJeffrey4l ya - i gree seems complex if it must go all over codebase13:39
sdakeJeffrey4l is tht what your saying?13:39
Jeffrey4lsdake, go all over codebase means the current implement or my?13:40
Jeffrey4lmine?13:40
sdakeany version of the optimal implementation13:41
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sdakeJeffrey4l does it touch all the roles or is it centralized13:42
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Jeffrey4lsdake, are u saying the gather facters? sorry, i can not following u :(13:43
sdakesaying gather faats13:43
Jeffrey4lwhat's is centralized?13:43
sdakehow many files must be modified ;)13:43
sdakeare we tlaking 20 or a few?13:44
Jeffrey4lonly site.yml and we need change many line base on which host vars is used in certain roles.13:44
sdakesounds better to me13:45
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Jeffrey4lsdake, i removed lost of line in site.yml https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365483/13:47
Jeffrey4lif we want to fix this. either we revert that PS. or gather the fact at the first of the playbooks.13:48
inc0Jeffrey4l, yeah, I was wondering if that won't be the case13:48
inc0we can use setup task right?13:49
Jeffrey4lyes.13:49
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inc0let's use setup task for all nodes as first task in plays13:50
inc0and that should do i13:50
inc0t13:50
Jeffrey4linc0, like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/583082/13:50
Jeffrey4linc0, check the comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376524/ i made.13:50
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inc0Jeffrey4l, how about this http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/setup_module.html#synopsis13:53
inc0I'd rather use this than debug13:53
inc0but idea is the same13:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Changed docker_restart_policy to unless-stopped  https://review.openstack.org/37532213:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix a docstring typo in build.py  https://review.openstack.org/37761313:54
Jeffrey4li tried that. hmm. it will trigger two setup.13:54
Jeffrey4l1 sec. let me explain13:54
inc0that doesn't seem right13:54
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Jeffrey4linc0,13:56
Jeffrey4linc0, http://paste.openstack.org/show/583083/13:56
Jeffrey4lwe need second one.13:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Add aodh checking to port_checks.yml  https://review.openstack.org/37736413:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: remove bootstrap.yml in grafana role upgrade.yml  https://review.openstack.org/37591313:56
inc0yeah makes sense13:57
inc0Jeffrey4l, wanna publish a patch?13:57
awiddersheimI can modify my change13:58
Jeffrey4linc0, this PS container such fix with a nice explanation. i will ping the author to use ansible setup solution13:58
Jeffrey4lawiddersheim, ^^13:58
Jeffrey4lawiddersheim, try to use second one here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376524/13:58
awiddersheimok sounds good13:58
inc0thanks13:58
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inc0btw welcome:) always nice to see new names here13:59
awiddersheimJeffrey4l: you mean second one here http://paste.openstack.org/show/583083/13:59
awiddersheimthanks13:59
Jeffrey4lawiddersheim, correct. add it at the beginning of the site.yml. it will force to gather facters in all nodes.14:00
Jeffrey4lawiddersheim, you should add - tags: always14:00
sdakesweet new devs :)14:00
awiddersheimyes14:01
awiddersheimhave that as well14:01
sdakewelcome awiddersheim  ;) - jeffrey4l imo we shouldn't e so quickto tke over pepels patchess14:01
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Misc fixes  https://review.openstack.org/37708214:01
sdakeunless its critical issue14:01
inc0well, it's good change, and it fixes problem awiddersheim wanted to fix14:01
sdakelike broken gate14:01
inc0and it is critical;)14:01
inc0will be apparent on multinode14:01
sdakei see14:02
Jeffrey4lagreed with inc014:02
sdakei run multinode daiy wfm14:02
inc0certain cases14:02
Jeffrey4lwhen the api and haproxy in different nodes.14:02
sdakegot it14:03
inc0which is default for us - if you have network node14:03
sdakei have api and haproxy on all ndoes in my setup14:03
sdakeall nodes do all things14:04
sdake(only 3 nodes)14:04
inc0yeah, that will work for you14:04
pbourkeinc0: Jeffrey4l: I do *not* want to touch all nodes by default14:04
inc0pbourke, well, setup task will touch nodes which will be touched anyway later14:04
inc0on that note, hmm, if we run some tag14:05
Jeffrey4lyes. setup is ran implicitly14:05
pbourkeso if I have 1000 compute nodes and 10 controls and I want to reconfigure something or deploy one service, I have to fact gather all 1000 nodes?14:05
inc0that would touch only controller14:05
inc0good point pbourke14:05
sdakesounds bad pbourke14:06
Jeffrey4lwhen you have 1000 nodes. you may need a gather cache for ansible.14:06
sdakealthough its more like 100 nodes for us14:06
inc0Jeffrey4l, but if you do for example "deploy just glance"14:06
inc0you don't need to touch 990 compute nodes at all14:06
sdakeright14:07
Jeffrey4lyes.14:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Add more packages in bindep.txt  https://review.openstack.org/37541814:07
inc0with this task you will14:07
Jeffrey4lBut with facters cache, touch 1000 nodes is fast.14:08
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inc0we might be better off if we do targeted setup at begginging of every role14:08
inc0but still not necessary14:08
pbourkeinc0: that's essentially what we do now in awiddersheim's patch14:08
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inc0hmm...and will not be default as common still be run without any tag14:10
Jeffrey4lso this PS may need revert.14:11
* Jeffrey4l is trying to find a better solution.14:12
Jeffrey4lhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/365483/14:12
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Misc fixes  https://review.openstack.org/37708214:13
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inc0ok, I'll need more caffeine for this14:15
awiddersheimWhile I like the merits of Jeffrey4l's approach which provides a much cleaner site.yml file and less potential for someone to forget to add a group of hosts to a list that might need to do fact gathering I feel like my more targeted approach helps with the problem pbourke pointed out. Also facts *may* change between plays and so gathering them all at the beginning might make things break but I say14:16
awiddersheimthat without knowing enough about the code base and what facts are being used in some of these configurations.14:16
awiddersheimit's a tough one for sure14:17
Jeffrey4lone workaround is: you can add --limit control when running playbooks. then -host: all will gather facter only on limit node.14:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding logging to kolla-kubernetes services  https://review.openstack.org/37710414:17
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inc0so gathering facts on all nodes will make later development easier14:19
Jeffrey4lyes. no one know what host should i need add to keystone, unless i check the keystone.conf file carefully.14:20
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Jeffrey4lanother case is: how about the operator add a file /etc/kolla/config/keystone.conf which need host_vars[ceph-mon]?14:21
Jeffrey4linc0, pbourke ^^14:22
inc0ceph backend for keystone?;)14:22
inc0is this even a thing?14:22
Jeffrey4ljust a case.14:23
Jeffrey4lhmm let's me think a real case.14:23
inc0pbourke, how about --limit workaround Jeffrey4l suggested?14:23
inc0Jeffrey4l, no worries, I get that, I was just curious14:23
Jeffrey4lthanks :)14:23
pbourkethat sounds like pushing the knowledge out of code and onto the operator14:23
pbourke*knowledge required for what hosts are needed for what services14:24
inc0well, let's be honest, if you're running enough nodes for this to be issue, you should have ansible knowledge:P14:24
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Jeffrey4loperator need setup facter cache. other wise it will be very slow during deployment14:24
Jeffrey4lansible-playbook run multi setup during the deploy.14:25
pbourkeright now we simply have to maintain a list of services in site.yml for the few services that need to know about nodes other than themselves (haproxy, nova, glance)14:26
pbourkewith what you're proposing it makes things a little easier on us, and a lot harder on the operator14:26
pbourkeexpect to see lots of "i got an error about missing ansible_eth0 in hostvars" questions14:27
pbourkeits worked fine till now, the only reason it changed at all was so we could run the common role separately14:28
pbourkewhich there are better ways to achieve, as demonstrated by awiddersheim14:28
inc0so one way to avoid us missing a node in task would be CI14:29
inc0hmm...an idea14:29
inc0no, my idea won't work, carry on;)14:30
pbourke:p14:30
Jeffrey4lhow about fact caching.14:31
awiddersheimyeah the list of nodes needing facts gathered was happening for quite a while but it seems like people might not have understood why these nodes were in the list as I tried to point out in my commit message14:31
Jeffrey4lhttp://docs.ansible.com/ansible/playbooks_variables.html#fact-caching14:31
Jeffrey4llet us document that when you have plenty of node, you'd better to enable the fact cache14:31
Jeffrey4lawiddersheim, yes. I remove lots of host in site.yml already :(14:32
awiddersheimit wasn't obvious to me either until pbourke pointed it out to me14:32
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awiddersheimwhich is why I added a comment in my change14:33
awiddersheimto help future me's14:33
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inc0we can require some fact caching in our docs tho14:35
inc0this is good practice14:35
pbourkeinc0: I wouldn't require it14:35
pbourkeinc0: it can cause issues and is non trivial to maintain14:35
inc0memory cache is pretty much no-op14:35
pbourkeits an optimisation, we shouldn't require it for our stuff to work properly14:36
inc0on the other hand14:36
inc0we're close to release and we might create scenerios which our play is going to fail14:36
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inc0pbourke, Jeffrey4l awiddersheim how about middle ground? we will to setup on all nodes today14:37
pbourkethe fact common is running on every node regardless of tags is a pretty big regression14:38
inc0and will have effort to create targeted caching and CI system to keep it working in ocata?14:38
pbourkeactually sorry im wrong on that, it will respect tags14:39
pbourkeinc0: that sounds ok yeah14:39
pbourkei agree its a bit sticky to be changing at this stage in the cycle14:40
inc0Jeffrey4l, awiddersheim can you work together to create potentially non-optimal but always working site.yml?14:40
inc0pbourke, feel free to add bp and target it to O, I think this is really good change, but I think we'll need CI for it, and that's going to be non-trivial14:41
Jeffrey4lnp.14:41
inc0as to make it work we'd need to have really-really multinode;)14:41
openstackgerritAndrew Widdersheim proposed openstack/kolla: Remove redundant common play and add haproxy hosts  https://review.openstack.org/37652414:41
inc0thanks guys!14:41
awiddersheimI updated my review14:42
Jeffrey4lhow about the case i mentioned above? we can not prevent the end-user add content use other groups.14:42
inc0yeah I see, thanks14:42
inc0will it work without fact caching Jeffrey4l ?14:42
Jeffrey4linc0, which? gather all facters?14:42
inc0yeah14:42
inc0https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376524/214:42
Jeffrey4lyes. gater  all facters always work.14:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: change CollectD to collectd in collectd role  https://review.openstack.org/37624514:43
inc0let's do this, --limit will be workaround for optimization14:43
awiddersheimif we do this14:45
awiddersheimthere is a lot of 'guards' that can probably get removed as well14:45
awiddersheimby 'do this' I mean settle on this approach for fact gathering for the long haul14:45
pbourkeI thought the plan for now was to do nothing14:46
inc0awiddersheim, yeah, I'm not convinced it's good for long run14:46
pbourkeuntil O14:46
inc0let's look at this issue in O so we can carefully examine it14:46
awiddersheimstuff like this wouldn't make sense anymore14:46
awiddersheimhttps://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/ansible/roles/haproxy/tasks/main.yml#L314:46
sdakeif its brkoen it must be fixed14:46
pbourkeits not broken just non optimal14:46
sdakeinc0 said it was noticeable on multinode14:47
sdakethe isue that is14:47
openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding missing localtime mounts and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37775514:47
inc0sdake, awiddersheim patch will fix all the issues14:47
inc0but will be suboptimal14:48
sdakecool14:48
sdakelets roll with that14:48
sdakewe got a boatload of bugs to fix14:48
inc0for now, that's good discussion to have14:48
inc0in Ocata14:48
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sdakeawiddersheim you seem to understand ansible well14:53
awiddersheimsometimes14:53
sdakeawiddersheim thats a good thing - if you think we are doing it wrong we work together to fix that :)14:53
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sdakejust say so14:53
awiddersheimwill do thanks14:53
sdakesup Mech42214:53
sdakesup mewald14:53
sdakeay monitoring made it in14:53
sdakemewald1 ^^14:53
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mewald1sdake:  hi what's up :)14:54
sdakemewald1 I htink monitoring could use a once over14:55
sdakemewald1 just to double check everything is in working order14:55
sdakemewald1 i haveseen a few patches fly by to fix various things14:55
mewald1yeah, I have some pressure internally here about backporting that stuff to stable/mitaka … have to get that done first14:56
pbourkeinc0: Jeffrey4l: sdake while we're all discussing things here's a less tricky topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374652/14:56
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add a note for how to get prior release kolla doc  https://review.openstack.org/37652514:56
mewald1sdake: all I know: it worked in patch sets 1 :D then it was ripped apart and I didn't build / deploy every time to be honest14:57
inc0do we have any record of these todos?14:57
inc0bugs?14:57
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mewald1I have seen something about collectd happened - what's the reason for that?14:57
sdakemewald1 no idea14:58
sdakemewald1 i assume people know whatthey are doing and we are approvingappropiatly :)14:58
pbourkeinc0: yes I logged bugs for them14:58
sdakei dont think collectd stops tig from working mewald1 ^?14:58
mewald1sdake: so I should find something about that in the blueprints14:58
mewald1sdake: no but it's a drop in replacement for telegraf14:59
sdakemewald1 not sure - documenation tracking in this project is not verygood14:59
sdakemewald1 is that harmful?14:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: change perm 0644 to 0600 in congress role  https://review.openstack.org/37642514:59
Jeffrey4lberendt, i think your PS https://review.openstack.org/375295 is ready to merge .15:00
berendtJeffrey4l anything to do there? i have no tested it as mentioned in the comments15:01
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/kolla: Use merge_configs for gnocchi-api-paste.ini file  https://review.openstack.org/37529515:01
mewald1sdake: no really, but depending on what happens could result in duplicate values in influxdb unnecessarily increasing the database15:01
sdakemewald1 right15:02
sdakemewald1 so maybe we need a check for that condition15:02
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Jeffrey4lberendt, i rebased my PS on yours. then you need do nothing.15:02
mewald1yeah should be either telegraf or collectd but not both15:02
sdakemewald1 roger that15:03
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Rename the gnocchi api-paste filename  https://review.openstack.org/37609215:03
sdakemewald1 the ha on influxdb15:03
mewald1I picked telegraf because it uses rest api to connect to influxdb which is load balancable. collectd uses a UDP connector which haproxy cannot load balance15:03
sdakemewald1 seems propreitary15:03
sdakemewald1 i see15:03
sdakemewald1 that does sound more optimal15:03
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Remove do_reconfigure.yml file for all roles  https://review.openstack.org/37587815:04
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sdakemewald1 is there any replacement for influxdb that has ha?15:06
mewald1sdake: nothing I could implement. there are tons of options for metric collection and storage out there. When we discussed the stack here we had tons to buzzwords flying around but I didnt have the impression anyone here knew any of the other stacks well enough to implement something15:09
mewald1from good old graphite over prometheus and some mega ultra millenium scale setups including apache kafka :D15:10
MarMat_ping Jeffrey4l the magnum thing15:11
sdakemewald1 right - I'm not particially up to date on perfformance tools ;)15:11
Jeffrey4lMarMat_, pong15:11
sdakemewald1 the idea sounds goodto me15:11
sdakemewald1 i think we need to sort out the ha nut or just document it exists15:11
sdakemewald1 "Don't expect performance metrics to be ha"15:12
MarMat_Jeffrey4l concerning your suggestions about implementation: os_keystone_domain_module cannot be used for Newton since it's ansible 2.1. I'm then going the way add optional domain parameter into kolla_keystone_user module and insert/get ids from there in one shot. Is that approach fine with you?15:12
inc0database of monitoring metrics is non-trivial at least15:13
sdakei think its ok if the eprf metrics rae not ha15:13
inc0I've heard good things about cassandra cluster for thrm;)15:13
Jeffrey4lin kolla-toolbox, the ansible version is fixed on 2.1.115:13
sdakeinc0 we have one already - influxdb15:13
inc0not HA tho15:13
sdakeright15:13
inc0cassandra would be HA15:13
sdakei think the key is it needs to integrate into the t and hte g15:13
Jeffrey4lMarMat_, so you can use that module in through kolla-toolbox15:13
MarMat_Jeffrey4l I see :-) ok then15:14
sdakeanyway topic for next cycle15:14
sdakenot changingit now15:14
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding missing localtime mounts and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37775515:15
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mewald1inc0: no offence, but "I've heard good things" is exactly why I chose what I know works when we discussed the stack before hand :) Many people suggested a lot of things, but nobody really was able to say "I know it works like a charm and I can tell how how to do it" :)15:19
inc0mewald1, I'm totally ok with out current implementation15:19
mewald1inc0: ok :)15:20
inc0however we shouldn't stop talking about this, we know shortcomings of influx15:20
mewald1yeah ^^15:20
inc0but it's tested and it's very popular, we know it works, that's enough for me15:20
inc0but you know...this isn't solved problem, all I'm saying15:20
inc0cassandra has much more complex deployment logic15:21
mewald1sure you're right. I couldn't see why everybody is saying the influxdb ha solution is proprietary. I think all we need is influxdb-relay and the code is right there on github: https://github.com/influxdata/influxdb-relay15:21
inc0thats more of sharding than ha tho right?15:22
zhubingbingi agre mewald115:23
zhubingbinginfluxdb-relay we need it15:23
inc0ok, it's kinda replication15:23
mewald1well, if something fails the service still works :D15:23
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sdakemewald1 some cat linked me info from influxddb website saying that implementation doen't work15:25
sdakeand they don't intend to support or implementha except in their enterprise edition15:25
sdakewe ran into this problem with acls on our heka/elasticsearch implementation15:26
sdakethe acl plugins were priorietary15:27
sdakeso we just implemented around it15:27
zhubingbingelasticsearch ha?15:27
sdakenah thats opensource15:27
inc0no, it was kibana auth afair15:27
sdakethe acl plugins for password protection on the web interface15:27
sdakesorry kibana auth15:27
sdakeso many parts ;)15:27
inc0we did it with haproxy http auth15:28
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sdakeright dave-mccowan did it iirc15:28
mewald1ah ok - damn15:28
sdakeeasy solution15:28
sdake"HA of performance monitoring is not spported.  If the ndoe hoting performance monitooring fails, data is lost."15:29
sdakejust put in docs15:29
sdakeproblem solved in short term15:29
zhubingbing-(15:29
sdakemaybe we can loook at that relay code and see if it really works or not15:29
sdakein ocata15:29
mewald1imho: I dont need HA for perf data15:31
zhubingbingperformance monitoring why not need ha?15:31
mewald1I dont use it for capacity planning / trending just for troubleshooting and for that usually a few hours of data is enough15:34
inc0well, it does have it's uses in terms of alarming15:36
mewald1but alarming is exactly what the stack currently does not do - for that imho we should add sensu to the mix15:37
inc0and then HA is useful, because if it's down, you lose your alarms and other stuff might go down without you knowing about it15:37
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inc0agree, but HA is still going to be an issue15:38
mewald1yeah not everybody thinks the way I think - I know ^^15:38
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inc0if everybody would think in way I think I wouldn't have many friends...15:39
inc0:P15:39
mewald1:D15:40
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding missing localtime mounts and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37775515:42
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zhubingbing - -15:49
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zhubingbingdid i missing anything?15:50
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openstackgerritBorneMace proposed openstack/kolla: Adding some optional destroy behavior  https://review.openstack.org/37783716:21
inc0_bmace, long time no see:)16:22
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bmacehey inc0_ :)16:22
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pbourkeinc0_: i see you got through the proxy ;)16:26
pbourkeI mean, bmace ^16:26
bmaceyeah.. gave up on trying to tunnel ssh and just did the goofy http password thing.16:26
inc0_proxy?16:27
bmaceour corporate proxy16:27
inc0_well I had lots of adventures with proxy, not sure if that is what you mean;)16:27
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pbourkeinc0_: I had meant to point the above msg at bmace16:29
pbourkeinc0_: but yeah most of us know the pain Im sure :)16:29
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inc0_xchat has proxy settings16:30
inc0_as irc goes16:30
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pbourkeinc0: do you feel things like this are appropriate in feature freeze https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375878/16:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Update manila-share.conf  https://review.openstack.org/37770716:38
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inc0I'm trying to recall why we did do-reconfigure in the first place16:39
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sdakepbourke the question you have to ask is "are we fixing a defect"16:39
inc0correct me if I'm wrong but that was for serial16:39
sdakeif the answer to that is no, then its a feature16:39
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sdakepbourke tht ptch looks big and scary to me personally16:40
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inc0yeah me too tbh16:40
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sdakenot sure if this is a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/162815216:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1628152 in kolla "do_reconfigure is useless now." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Jeffrey Zhang (jeffrey4l)16:41
sdakeor not16:41
sdakejeffrey4l probablygetting om ewell ddeserved rest16:41
inc0it's simplification of codebase16:41
pbourkei can explain,one moment16:41
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pbourkeso yeah it was done originally because we thought serial had to go in the tasks16:44
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sdakeone of the defects we have atm is reconfigure is too slow16:44
sdakei dont know if this fixes that problem or not16:44
pbourkemaybe its a part of that effort then16:45
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pbourkeotherwise its a refactor that can wait16:45
sdakeits 30 mins deploy 120 min recnofig on 64 nodees16:45
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sdakeright pbourke cn you leave appropriate review16:45
pbourkesdake: that was one persons experience though16:45
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sdakemight link to irc conversatino16:45
pbourkedoesn't mean its representative16:45
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sdakepbourke on osic 128 ndoes ddeploy took 20 min reconfig took 1 hr16:46
sdakei have data to back it up16:46
pbourkeah16:46
inc0well reconfig does much more than deploy16:46
inc0really16:46
pbourkewhat on earth is the hold up16:46
pbourkerestarting containers?16:46
sdakeya but a 1:3 ratio?16:46
inc0stopping existing containers takes time16:46
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inc0but well, it shouldnt be THAT big of a difference16:46
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inc0however this PS won't help16:47
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inc0it's harder issue16:47
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inc0there is loop somewhere in our plays, for some reason16:48
sdakeif its a refactor -1 or or -2 procederal it16:48
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sdakeif its a performance fix for the 1:3 thign lets fix that if its easy16:48
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inc0sdake, I think we need stable/newton branch asap16:48
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sdakeinc0 we agreed that woudl happen when we tagged 3.0.016:48
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sdakebut i agree stable/newton now would be good16:49
inc0I'd rather deal with decisions whether or not backport a but than to merge it16:49
sdakethe problem is people doing the backports16:49
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sdakeas in we dont have thoe people16:49
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pbourkei need to get better at that16:49
sdakepbourke whole team does16:50
sdakepbourke including me16:50
pbourkethe process can be a bit heavy16:50
sdakepbourke thats why i thought we agreeed to tag at 3.0.0 :)16:50
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sdakepbourke agreeee process sucks16:50
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sdakeour backport process is for stable branhes16:50
sdakenewton isn't stable :(16:50
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sdakeso it shouldn't matter that often16:51
sdakebut with what is left in kolla - 100 bug or so16:51
sdakedo we reall ywant to backport 100 changes16:51
sdakeassuming we can fix it all16:51
sdakewhich i assume :)16:51
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pbourkeare we following https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html ?16:54
pbourkeif so we have less than a week16:54
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37598916:56
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding missing localtime mounts and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37775517:10
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DavieyAnyone testing LDAP/AD with Kolla?17:23
Daviey(I added support for it a few weeks ago.. and it seems to have broken.. but not our fault that i can see)17:23
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding missing localtime mounts and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37775517:27
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sdakeDaviey can you file a high severity bug pls17:35
sdakeDaviey and possibly get to hthe bottom of it17:35
sdakeDaviey if you need my hep to reach out to nayone let me know17:35
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding missing localtime mounts and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37775517:46
sdakefor those into documentaries, curiositystream rocks17:46
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sdake11 bucks a month for 4k documentariess of very high quality17:47
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inc0__thanks sdake I'll check that out17:48
sdakethey have cheaper packages for lower dev17:48
sdakedef17:48
inc0__yeah well I have 4k tv but none of platforms they have supports 4k;)17:50
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Mech422So should I 'congratulate' inc0 on his election, or congratulate sdake on getting out alive ? :-)17:53
inc0:D17:53
sdakeMech422 both!17:53
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Mech422LOL17:54
Mech422Will you guys be forming a support group for prior PTO's ?17:54
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding missing localtime mounts and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37775517:58
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MarMat_@core team, is it ok to bump shade to 1.5.0 from 1.4.0 in kolla-toolbox because of os_user_role ansible module requirements? Still for Newton? Need it for fixing magnum stuff.18:11
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sdakeMarMat_ yes if its a dep issue its a bug18:19
sdakemagnum always seems to have dep issues ;(18:21
sdakeI'd realy like that owrking this cycle18:21
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sdakeMech422 no support group needed18:23
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sdakeMech422 but we back each other up when needed18:24
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MarMat_sdake ok, will submit next PS soon, let's see then.18:25
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Port prechecks only for enabled services  https://review.openstack.org/37796218:39
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Port prechecks only for enabled services  https://review.openstack.org/37796218:43
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/kolla: Deprecate Fedora based Docker images  https://review.openstack.org/36918418:52
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Davieysdake: Yeah.. I havent got to the bottom of it yet... but i want to check if it is a local trivial config issue or something more19:05
sdakeDaviey sounds good19:06
sdakeDaviey i dont know anything about it19:06
sdakeso rely on the people that write it to fix it ;)19:06
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sdakemust collect ssecond chil d bbiaf19:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding missing localtime mounts and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37775519:21
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding resolv.conf workaround to logging containers  https://review.openstack.org/37802120:39
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding resolv.conf workaround to logging containers  https://review.openstack.org/37802121:01
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding resolv.conf workaround to logging containers  https://review.openstack.org/37802121:04
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openstackgerritMartin Matyas proposed openstack/kolla: Fix Magnum trustee issues  https://review.openstack.org/32616321:45
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP: Test setting up the gate  https://review.openstack.org/37805621:54
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kfox1111rhallisey: thanks for setting up the gate... it does seem to let us run our code already. should be easy to fill this out with real tests. :)22:16
rhalliseyya22:17
rhalliseyfor sure22:17
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sbezverk_kfox1111: hit anouther macro related collateral22:22
sbezverk_need to discuss22:23
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kfox1111k22:30
kfox1111rhallisey: know what version of ubuntu the gate checks use?22:41
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rhallisey16.0422:41
kfox1111nice. k. thanks. :)22:42
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP: Test setting up the gate  https://review.openstack.org/37805622:47
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding resolv.conf workaround to logging containers  https://review.openstack.org/37802122:59
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tonanhngosdake: ping23:04
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tonanhngosdake_: ping23:12
sdake_yes sur tonanhngo  what can i do for ya23:12
sdake_sur/sir23:12
tonanhngoHi Steve, got some questions.23:12
tonanhngoI was trying out the all-in-one install, but it seems the 3.0.0 images are not all there yet23:13
tonanhngoI guess these are the Newton release23:13
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tonanhngoAre they still being tested?23:14
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Fixing keystone logging related issue  https://review.openstack.org/37807623:18
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Fixing keystone logging related issue  https://review.openstack.org/37807623:23
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sbezverksdake: ping23:30
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP: Test setting up the gate  https://review.openstack.org/37805623:43
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding resolv.conf workaround to logging containers  https://review.openstack.org/37802123:46
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