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| sdake | yo | 00:48 |
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| sdake | sweet i got a 2.74% apr refi on my panamera :) | 00:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/kolla: Fix dict.values() PY3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/345706 | 00:50 |
| openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/kolla: Fix dict.values() PY3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/345706 | 00:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Use the node_custom_config variable in the config.yml file https://review.openstack.org/347474 | 02:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Make the enable_isolated_metadata and force_metadata to yes in default https://review.openstack.org/347457 | 03:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | wznoinsk, around? | 03:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | wznoinsk, what's the result of this PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347457/ . if u see this, please make some comments in the PS. thanks. | 03:29 |
| patchbot | Jeffrey4l: patch 347457 - kolla - Make the enable_isolated_metadata and force_metada... | 03:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Fix the neutron-lbaas-agent container issues https://review.openstack.org/347606 | 03:42 |
| HyperJohnGraham | sdake I thought it over and decided since i am so close to having my kolla-kubernetes working i am going to stick with it | 03:44 |
| HyperJohnGraham | its really where i want to be in the future and I don't mind the bleeding edge. | 03:45 |
| HyperJohnGraham | rhallisey was very helpful pointing out some things to me and honestly its been enjoyable :) | 03:47 |
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| sdake | HyperJohnGraham good to hear | 03:52 |
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| HyperJohnGraham | :) | 03:53 |
| openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/kolla: Fix dict.values() PY3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/345706 | 03:55 |
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| sdake | Jeffrey4l my bookmarks are busted | 04:34 |
| sdake | do you ahve the 3 motnh priority etherpad? | 04:34 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sdake, this one https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-N-midcycle-priority | 05:12 |
| sdake | diga ^^ | 05:13 |
| diga | sdake: Hi | 05:13 |
| diga | got busy in something | 05:13 |
| diga | got it | 05:13 |
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| mewald | morning | 05:44 |
| sdake | hey mewald | 05:46 |
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| mewald | what are you up to? should be like midnight over there!? | 05:48 |
| sdake | watching cisco live | 05:50 |
| sdake | or cisco beat | 05:50 |
| sdake | or something | 05:50 |
| sdake | buzzword bingo | 05:50 |
| sdake | how aboutyourself mewald | 05:52 |
| sdake | what are you doing up at this hour :) | 05:52 |
| mewald | :D yeah, I love it when people go crazy with buzzwords. "cloud", "containerization", "software defined networking", "infrastructure as a code", "capex", …" And you know they have to idea what they are talking about :D | 05:52 |
| mewald | this hours is 7:52 AM :D | 05:52 |
| mewald | just arrived at office, now starting to work through the gerrit comments on TICK patches | 05:52 |
| mewald | *TIG | 05:53 |
| sdake | i am pretty sure i heard atleast 50 buzzwords repeated more then 20 times | 05:53 |
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| mewald | Who's the guy who starting working on Sensu? | 05:56 |
| sdake | daviey | 05:56 |
| mewald | ah right, he's online, too | 05:56 |
| mewald | @Daviey: What's your plan with the work on Sensu you did already? | 05:57 |
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| mewald | sdake: when building images, I often get a lot of <none> images. What's that all about? | 05:58 |
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| sdake | the none images are in the docker cache | 05:58 |
| sdake | they are your old images | 05:59 |
| sdake | when you tag a new image, the old image gets untagged and marked as none | 05:59 |
| mewald | ahh ok | 05:59 |
| mewald | good to know | 05:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fix dict.values() PY3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/345706 | 06:06 |
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| sdake | bedtime | 06:06 |
| sdake | night | 06:06 |
| mewald | gn8 | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Make kolla-build list-dependencies option work https://review.openstack.org/347169 | 07:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added grafana role https://review.openstack.org/346450 | 08:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added influxdb role https://review.openstack.org/346449 | 08:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added grafana container https://review.openstack.org/346447 | 08:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added influxdb container https://review.openstack.org/346446 | 08:04 |
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| mewald | is anyone working on changes regarding keystone federation? | 08:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Use a lower number of the workers https://review.openstack.org/316876 | 08:37 |
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| mewald | Is there a way to speed up the image build process? like more parallel tasks or something? What would help? | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Customizations for openvswitch https://review.openstack.org/346837 | 12:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added grafana container https://review.openstack.org/346447 | 12:13 |
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| sdake | morning | 12:25 |
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| sdake | hey v1k0d3n | 12:28 |
| mewald | morning | 12:30 |
| sdake | hey mewald | 12:31 |
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| mewald | any idea why for some hosts ansible doesn't pick up hostvars correctly? I get an error that ansible_eth0 is not available in a template but when I do "ansible <host> -m setup" I can see the data | 12:48 |
| sdake | well it ould be a set_facts bug | 12:50 |
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| sdake | i've noticed hostvars with setfacts and some toher special keyword (name escapes me - 6am atm) | 12:50 |
| sdake | causes chaos sometimes | 12:50 |
| sdake | but i'm pretty sure we fixed all that with hacky workaround | 12:50 |
| sdake | s | 12:50 |
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| sdake | morning inc0 | 12:51 |
| inc0 | howdy folks | 12:54 |
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| mewald | looks like someone is missing to get this patch merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344705/ | 12:57 |
| patchbot | mewald: patch 344705 - kolla - External Ceph - Implementation Nova | 12:57 |
| mewald | inc0: would you mind? :) | 12:57 |
| inc0 | mewald, not at all! I'll review it gladly:) | 12:59 |
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| Daviey | mewald: hey.. i really don't know. I was initially blocked on working on it, so things have stalled. | 13:12 |
| Daviey | mewald: Now you are making good progress, it seemed logical to wait and see where yours goes.. and then look to see to integrate if suitable | 13:14 |
| Daviey | Honestly, i'm not tied to sensu.. but it seemed like a good way to solve the monitoring issues | 13:14 |
| Daviey | I've got my simplistic model working locally, but as i was blocked.. I shelved it. | 13:15 |
| Daviey | It needs a day or 2 to clean it up, to make it suitable for submission in it's current form. | 13:15 |
| mewald | Daviey: Yes I agree. I want sensu there in addition. The performance monitoring stack, well, can monitor performance but availability / health is a totally different story | 13:15 |
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| inc0 | guys...tbh personally I'd love to have this functionality this release, even if it's not perfect stack | 13:16 |
| inc0 | we wasted too much of a release time to dive too deeply into this stuff. TICK is well established and does the job, we can extend/change it later | 13:17 |
| Daviey | but.. i didn't want to bother with simplistic model in isolation | 13:17 |
| inc0 | changing will be harder but I think possible | 13:17 |
| Daviey | inc0 / mewald: yeah.. i've never used the TICK part for alerting | 13:18 |
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| mewald | Would be awesome to a have an independent Sensu stack in soon and then later see how to integrate | 13:19 |
| Daviey | well that works aswell | 13:19 |
| inc0 | well, I'd be reluctant to have 2 stacks, but really, if something can work with Influx, we can work with it | 13:19 |
| Daviey | I was really only focusing on availability at this stage | 13:19 |
| inc0 | and most of the stuff can work with Influx | 13:19 |
| Daviey | well.. we need to be careful not to duplicate the same data 3 times | 13:20 |
| inc0 | question tho, isnt Influx license restrictive to use it as clustered solution? | 13:20 |
| Daviey | i planned to drop the historic data on the floor... So i didn't care about influx :) | 13:21 |
| mewald | That's the way you should go to get going quickly :) | 13:21 |
| Daviey | yeah.. i've got that working | 13:22 |
| Daviey | mewald: are you adding default dashes to graphana? | 13:23 |
| mewald | yes, once the patches I have proposed go through | 13:23 |
| mewald | I want to avoid too many commits with dependencies on each others | 13:23 |
| mewald | makes working with git pretty complicated | 13:23 |
| Daviey | Unrelated, anyone working on default dashboard for kibana? | 13:25 |
| mewald | I have 7 open patches at the moment btw :D | 13:25 |
| Daviey | mewald: yeah, kolla currently sucks for slow review turnaround.. it's a real pain getting too far ahead with code, when then eviews slow you down on chained commits | 13:26 |
| mewald | I hope some of my stuff will pass this week | 13:27 |
| Daviey | good luck | 13:29 |
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| rhallisey | ya we need more reviews | 13:34 |
| rhallisey | lots more commits coming it lately | 13:35 |
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| inc0 | mewald, small nit in ceph review | 13:41 |
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| inc0 | also we need this in our release notes | 13:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added grafana role https://review.openstack.org/346450 | 13:48 |
| inc0 | mewald, btw, isn't grafana replaced by chronograf in TICK? | 13:49 |
| v1k0d3n | sdake: hey man | 13:49 |
| sdake | C = G | 13:50 |
| v1k0d3n | sorry, missed your message earlier. little early for you, no? | 13:50 |
| sdake | we actually have a TIG stack under development | 13:50 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n i am up at 6am ever yday typically | 13:50 |
| v1k0d3n | well, i guess that's only 6:30 or 7:30? | 13:50 |
| v1k0d3n | same here edt...was up outrageously late last night working on stuff...so bit rough this morning for me. | 13:51 |
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| v1k0d3n | btw...i have a new role...so you'll see me a lot more in kolla community. officially dedicated community now :) | 13:51 |
| v1k0d3n | just accepted the offer. | 13:51 |
| v1k0d3n | wasn't before...was part of the security organization looking at forward technologies...similar to foundry role. | 13:52 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is being restarted now to relieve performance degradation | 13:52 | |
| v1k0d3n | sdake: so what's up? | 13:52 |
| mewald | inc0: yeah Grafana is not exactly part of TICK but Grafana is much better known compared to chronograf | 13:53 |
| mewald | that was my argument to use Grafana | 13:53 |
| mewald | acceptance :) | 13:53 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n nothing just greeting you | 13:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added grafana role https://review.openstack.org/346450 | 13:53 |
| inc0 | I'm all for Grafana, just asking;) | 13:54 |
| inc0 | soo...TIGS stack? | 13:54 |
| v1k0d3n | oh! because of the connect/disconnect status? | 13:54 |
| inc0 | Telegraf Influx Grafana Sensu?;) | 13:54 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n ya | 13:54 |
| v1k0d3n | whoops. yeah, been working on a project. | 13:54 |
| v1k0d3n | sdake: https://github.com/v1k0d3n/traveling-circus | 13:56 |
| v1k0d3n | wanted kolla...but needed something really fast for a kubernetes meetup in charlotte next weds. | 13:56 |
| sdake | cool | 13:56 |
| v1k0d3n | had issues getting kolla 100% working...this was why i was reaching out with a bunch of 101 questions. | 13:56 |
| sdake | didn't know you were an instructor | 13:56 |
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| v1k0d3n | have a repo that's similar for kolla...but just a few ticks off for some reason. | 13:57 |
| v1k0d3n | i'm not actually. i'm just the organizer for the kubernetes meetup in charlotte, and there are a lot of folks who don't really know much about kubernetes. | 13:57 |
| v1k0d3n | since provider is new in 1.3 for openstack...i thought i'd run though setting up kubernetes in tenants for users. | 13:58 |
| inc0 | "Would you like to hear about Kubernetes, our Lord and Savior"? | 13:58 |
| v1k0d3n | so they can see it in action and deploy an sdlc pipeline in a box...and see how things relate. | 13:58 |
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| v1k0d3n | inc0: only one small piece. there's iaas and there's caas. total different goals...not sure why people lump them as something that's going to even be in the same space as openstack | 14:00 |
| inc0 | caas? | 14:00 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n mind expanding which part of kolla didn't work 100% for you | 14:01 |
| sdake | (so we know which bugs to fix:) | 14:01 |
| sdake | caas = cats as a service | 14:01 |
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| mewald | inc0: thanks for review. I just replied to your comment. I followed the instructions given on http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/ and they use the same credentials for cinder and nova. Reason is probably that they need access to the same volumes anyway. It's less intuitive but I thought that finding a matching configuration on docs.ceph.com would help. Tell me what you think about it. I have to problem with changing it | 14:17 |
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| mewald | general questions about role development in kolla: we have this structure of main.yml, config.yml, deploy.yml, pull.ym, bootstrap.yml etc. Should this mechanism rather be kept as is to remain consistent with other roles even if some yml files wouldn't be needed or should every role be stripped down to the minimum necessary? | 14:39 |
| sdake | mewald some of those things are needed | 14:40 |
| sdake | I'd say try to hit the main roles like you just mentioned | 14:41 |
| sdake | or tasks rather | 14:41 |
| sdake | therea rea a few others in there that are mandatory | 14:41 |
| sdake | if they are missing things like reconfigure and upgrade break | 14:41 |
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| mewald | specifically bootstrap.yml should it be there and be mentioned in deploy.yml or removed if empty? | 14:42 |
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| sdake | if bootstrap.yml is empty i dont see a reason to have it in the repo | 14:42 |
| mewald | ok | 14:42 |
| Daviey | sdake: You raised the issue of ETOOMANY repos the other day. It was my suggestion not to wget deb/rpm's, but add the mirrors. | 14:42 |
| sdake | but it takes two reviewers to approve your change :) | 14:42 |
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| Daviey | I also don't like all repo's being in all containers. | 14:42 |
| Daviey | I think it would be safer to move specific repos to specific docker containers | 14:42 |
| mewald | Daviey: ACK about that all repos being everywhere thing | 14:43 |
| Daviey | At the moment, my third-party repo could push a new openssl or something.. and it impact everything | 14:43 |
| sdake | yes we need to remove the curls downloading files from the system | 14:43 |
| sdake | it makes build unreliable | 14:43 |
| Daviey | Which makes us a bit weaker | 14:43 |
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| Daviey | sdake: Well.. unreliable is one thing.. but having no-sane upgrade path is the real issue IMO | 14:43 |
| sdake | ok just woke up :) | 14:44 |
| sdake | give me few minutes tot think about that | 14:44 |
| Daviey | tick tock | 14:44 |
| Daviey | :) | 14:44 |
| mewald | :D | 14:44 |
| sdake | where is the lack of the upgrade path | 14:44 |
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| Daviey | wgetting a deb/rpm.. We never upgrade, even on container rebuild | 14:45 |
| Daviey | So project releases a security update, and we ignore it | 14:45 |
| sdake | right | 14:45 |
| sdake | ya curl needs to go | 14:45 |
| sdake | i'm prety sure we use curl everywhere instead of wget | 14:45 |
| Daviey | and a global repo to all containers leave us weak to trusting third parties to have complete control of the entire deployment | 14:46 |
| Daviey | rather than isolated to just their project container | 14:46 |
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| sdake | two different things your talking about there | 14:46 |
| Daviey | sdake: you are right, it is curl | 14:46 |
| Daviey | yeah | 14:46 |
| Daviey | So dropping all curl's... AND moving away from global repos | 14:46 |
| sdake | on the curl point, I agree we need to remove that | 14:47 |
| Daviey | (which solves your ugh) | 14:47 |
| sdake | lets discuss each independently - because honestly I'm tired :) | 14:47 |
| sdake | global repos | 14:47 |
| sdake | your concerned that in a binary build environment, the global repo you depend on will change? | 14:48 |
| inc0 | mewald, soo...not really same volumes | 14:48 |
| inc0 | in Kolla we have separate client | 14:48 |
| inc0 | s | 14:48 |
| Daviey | sdake: I want them to change... for the sensu example, i want us to trust sensu to deliver good stuff.. and we test it with bitrot jobs | 14:48 |
| rhallisey | mewald, review your patches | 14:48 |
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| Daviey | BUT, i don't want that project to own the entire deployment by uploading an openssl rpm/deb | 14:48 |
| sdake | oh what i meant by that ugh in the more repos thing | 14:49 |
| sdake | i guess i shouldn't have left that comment | 14:49 |
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| sdake | i am working on creating mirrors in infra for all our stuff | 14:49 |
| sdake | and more mirrors = more work = ugh ;) | 14:49 |
| Daviey | sdake: No, it is a fair point | 14:49 |
| Daviey | sdake: Ah, i see.. I misunderstood your point | 14:49 |
| Daviey | BUT.. i do think it is bad that a single third party repo has control of all packages in all containers | 14:50 |
| Daviey | we are maximizing the exposure | 14:50 |
| Daviey | Only a few months ago, ceph had a security breach and they were concerned about their repos | 14:50 |
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| sdake | Daviey these are thigns i don't want to know - yet people feel compelled to tell them to me anyway :) | 14:51 |
| sdake | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk | 14:52 |
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| Daviey | sdake: hah | 14:55 |
| Daviey | sdake: I have a few other things... can i make you cry? | 14:55 |
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| sdake | team meeting 15 minutes | 15:46 |
| sdake | Daviey sorry got distracted | 15:47 |
| sdake | Daviey regarding the repos coming from all over the place | 15:47 |
| sdake | the model I'd recommend for real deployments is to mirror the repos and deploy Kolla in a CI/CD pipeline based upon those stable repo mirrors | 15:48 |
| sdake | that code does not exist | 15:48 |
| sdake | well maybe pbourke has something similar | 15:48 |
| sdake | not sure | 15:48 |
| sdake | but its not in kolla atm | 15:48 |
| sdake | Daviey the first step in fixing that is the customization work that inc0 is leading | 15:49 |
| sdake | this should allow us to customize repos per container | 15:49 |
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| sdake | i'm not sure if it will do it yet | 15:49 |
| sdake | but it will do it eventually | 15:49 |
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| Daviey | sdake: I agree.. along those lines.. but also, not having the mirrors be global i don't think is in scope with customization | 16:04 |
| sdake | Daviey team meeting in #openstack-meeting-4 - your welcome to join but hard to have two conversations at once :) | 16:04 |
| Daviey | sdake: we need, ${containername}_mirrors list. And only that mirror should be used | 16:04 |
| Daviey | Sugar, has it started already | 16:05 |
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| v1k0d3n | sdake: sorry got pulled into something. | 16:35 |
| v1k0d3n | i think the issues were completely on my end...which was why i was trying to reach out and clarify some things over the past few days. | 16:35 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n team meeting - but nearly over i think | 16:35 |
| sdake | v1k0d3n be with you in a moment pls :) | 16:36 |
| v1k0d3n | whoops sorry! | 16:36 |
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| Mech422 | Morning | 16:52 |
| mark-casey | Morning | 16:57 |
| mark-casey | Mech422: I'd mentioned bootcfg yesterday but I forgot that it incorporates a more generic tool for the dhcp proxy part. So if you're not deploying coreos then that component, Pixiecore [https://github.com/danderson/pixiecore#dhcpproxydhcp] is probably what you'd want to check out | 17:01 |
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| Mech422 | mark-casey: oh - thanks for the pixiecore pointer! | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Use a lower number of the workers https://review.openstack.org/316876 | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Customizations for rally https://review.openstack.org/346546 | 17:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla: Enable kolla k8s to override bind api bind address in genconfig https://review.openstack.org/327925 | 18:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla: Enable kolla k8s to override bind api bind address in genconfig https://review.openstack.org/327925 | 18:13 |
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| kfox1111 | rhallisey: mind if I take a quick stab at implementing Steven's orchestration option on top of your most recent patch? | 18:28 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, sure | 18:28 |
| kfox1111 | k. | 18:28 |
| rhallisey | what was it that he mentioned | 18:28 |
| rhallisey | oh | 18:28 |
| rhallisey | the kolla_kubernetes flag | 18:28 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, I just posted to the ML about this topic | 18:29 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, the point of this change is temporary | 18:29 |
| rhallisey | enable_kubernetes I think will be temp too | 18:30 |
| sbezverk_ | wirehead_ ping | 18:32 |
| Daviey | mark-casey: pixiecore looks nice.. not seen that before | 18:32 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, but its contentious. just want to get something in that everyone can mostly agree on. | 18:33 |
| sbezverk_ | ansible gurus, how ansible cli executable recognizes that passed as a parameter variable is dictionary? | 18:34 |
| Daviey | mark-casey: but doesn't solve the vlan issue | 18:34 |
| mark-casey | Daviey: doesn't chaining to ipxe and letting it handle vlans solve that? | 18:37 |
| rhallisey | sbezverk_, I would check the kolla_toolbox | 18:38 |
| rhallisey | put some print statements in there | 18:38 |
| rhallisey | see how the module uses what it's given | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla: Enable kolla k8s to override bind api bind address in genconfig https://review.openstack.org/327925 | 18:39 |
| kfox1111 | rhallisey: how does that look? it still does most of the stuff with the api override, but hides it behind an orchestration option so that other things can key off of it too. | 18:39 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, the main concern is adding options to globals.ymlk | 18:40 |
| rhallisey | and that kube will keep adding | 18:40 |
| rhallisey | which is probably will | 18:40 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, I think our end game solution is post repo split also splitting out config to consume a globals-kubernetes.yml | 18:41 |
| kfox1111 | it might. but with an orchestration_engine, then some of the stuff can be done conditionally in the other templates when it really doesn't need to be done globallyl. kind of a middle ground. | 18:41 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. that sounds good. | 18:41 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/blob/master/doc/source/quickstart.rst#configure-kolla-kubernetes | 18:41 |
| kfox1111 | but I think in the mean time, we have a stable code base we're having to make semi unstable changes into, which is why we're getting pushback. | 18:42 |
| rhallisey | we already document to add it | 18:42 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, yes exactly | 18:42 |
| rhallisey | so we need to decouple the configuration bits | 18:42 |
| kfox1111 | so lets just do whats nessisary for the stable folks to accept what we need for now, and fix it later when we split? | 18:42 |
| rhallisey | so the stable kolla configuration is not altered | 18:42 |
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| kfox1111 | if they need an orchestration_engine = KUBERNETS to get there, I'm ok with that. :) | 18:43 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, agreed. In the meeting ~2 hours ago we said that removing the option in globals.yml would work | 18:43 |
| kfox1111 | ah. | 18:43 |
| rhallisey | and kolla-kube would doc that you need to add it | 18:43 |
| rhallisey | all the other changes can stay | 18:43 |
| rhallisey | but the change to globals | 18:44 |
| kfox1111 | how would it default to the ansible version without it being there though? | 18:44 |
| mark-casey | kfox1111: rhallisey: fwiw at some point I want to propose kolla-ansible all-in-one also run with wsrep_driver=none. There is no reason for Galera there and there is at least one open bug about breakage by pretending it is a cluster | 18:44 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327925/13/ansible/group_vars/all.yml | 18:44 |
| patchbot | rhallisey: patch 327925 - kolla - Enable kolla k8s to override bind api bind address... | 18:44 |
| rhallisey | mark-casey, good to know | 18:45 |
| kfox1111 | rhallisey: I thought you just said that line would be removed though? | 18:45 |
| kfox1111 | maybe I misunderstood. | 18:45 |
| rhallisey | that could be an addition bit we expose | 18:45 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, that would stay | 18:45 |
| rhallisey | it's a default | 18:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Wronkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Neutron control bootstraps and runs without host network https://review.openstack.org/343116 | 18:46 |
| kfox1111 | oh. so which part would be removed? | 18:46 |
| rhallisey | etc/kolla/globals.yml changes would be removed | 18:46 |
| rhallisey | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327925/12/etc/kolla/globals.yml | 18:46 |
| patchbot | rhallisey: patch 327925 - kolla - Enable kolla k8s to override bind api bind address... | 18:46 |
| kfox1111 | ah. I missed that cause I was looking at 13. | 18:47 |
| rhallisey | no worries. Do you agree with that method? | 18:47 |
| kfox1111 | I didn't really like that being there too, as that is a user config file and that logic may change at some point. kind of an implementation detail. | 18:47 |
| rhallisey | right | 18:47 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. I guess I'm ok with either at this point then. I prefer having the orchestration engine as its more direct to what an op wants to see, but I'd rather see progress made at this point. | 18:49 |
| rhallisey | doesn't matter to me. It's likely to change in the future | 18:50 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. inc0 just +1'ed it. maybe we just let it sit and see what happens? | 18:51 |
| rhallisey | sure | 18:51 |
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| inc0 | it's ok imho | 18:51 |
| kfox1111 | if there are any objectsions, feel free to revert my change. | 18:51 |
| inc0 | let's not spend too much time on it, we want this thing to happen in N | 18:51 |
| kfox1111 | different topic... | 18:52 |
| kfox1111 | can we discuss rpc services, as its starting to come up now. | 18:52 |
| kfox1111 | nova and netron both have reviews up. | 18:52 |
| kfox1111 | I think they need to be done with PetSets for the rpc services. | 18:52 |
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| inc0 | rpc service? aka conductor? | 18:54 |
| kfox1111 | anything that shows up in 'nova service-list' or 'neutron agent-list' | 18:54 |
| inc0 | why a pet set? | 18:55 |
| inc0 | I mean, shouldn't these be totally scallable (minus scheduler maybe) | 18:55 |
| kfox1111 | the petset keeps the name the same so it doesn't spawn a bunch of new entries in 'nova service-list' or 'neutron agent-list' | 18:55 |
| kfox1111 | petsets are scalable too, they just keep naming and optionally state. | 18:55 |
| inc0 | hmm, ideally we would have separate agents with names | 18:56 |
| inc0 | but yeah, nova will produce tons of junk | 18:56 |
| kfox1111 | so you can have 0 - N containers still like an rc, but the name of the entries are always 'neutronserver-0, neutronserver-1, etc' | 18:56 |
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| rhallisey | kfox1111, do you want to write up a blueprint ? | 18:57 |
| rhallisey | we will need pet sets | 18:58 |
| inc0 | or a PoC?;) | 18:58 |
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| kfox1111 | yeah. I think i can probably do that. | 18:58 |
| kfox1111 | which would you prefer. bp or poc? | 18:58 |
| kfox1111 | there are example petsets out there. I think its basically just changing the rc to a petset. | 18:59 |
| rhallisey | we need a bp for tracking. A PoC would be useful for understanding | 18:59 |
| kfox1111 | k | 18:59 |
| rhallisey | ya it's just a few changes to an rc | 18:59 |
| kfox1111 | also, is there a reason we're using rc's and not deployments yet? | 19:00 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, because we don't have all the services done, nor the ansible bits done, and the CLI isn't fully granular yet | 19:00 |
| rhallisey | :) | 19:00 |
| Daviey | mark-casey: but getting into the vlan is the real issue | 19:00 |
| rhallisey | were blocked on like 10 patches held up in kolla | 19:00 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. but when we make a new file, its basically just using deployment instead of rc. | 19:01 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. :/ | 19:01 |
| rhallisey | for demo purposes, rc is plenty | 19:01 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, speaking of which check out the kolla-kube talks for summit | 19:01 |
| kfox1111 | upcoming? | 19:02 |
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| kfox1111 | hmm... actually, it looks like neutron-server is an exception to the rule. it doesn't show up in neutron agent-list | 19:04 |
| kfox1111 | all the other agents do though. | 19:05 |
| kfox1111 | btw: https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/issues/29555#issuecomment-235637506 | 19:05 |
| kfox1111 | I've been running up against that one with 1.3.x. | 19:06 |
| kfox1111 | kolla-kubernetes uses configmaps enough we might see it at times until fixed. | 19:06 |
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| mark-casey | Daviey: that makes sense. I think being able to run a supplemental pxe server w/out changing existing dhcp removes some of the need for putting things into a vlan, but I have no doubt there are still situations it's needed. | 19:14 |
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| mark-casey | With more automation tools applying to network gear I'd probably try to get around it by making the desired vlan untaged for the switch port the host is on | 19:15 |
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| kfox1111 | google groups is frustrating. :/ | 19:27 |
| kfox1111 | I want to get email at my non gmail address.... | 19:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Consistent external Ceph configuration for Glance https://review.openstack.org/346499 | 19:28 |
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| mewald | rhallisey: ping | 19:34 |
| rhallisey | mewald, hey | 19:34 |
| mewald | sorry, despite your link I still didnt get why you want me to manually add a user that was already created by the deb package | 19:34 |
| rhallisey | are you positive the user gets created? | 19:35 |
| rhallisey | and /home/grafana or whatever is added? | 19:35 |
| rhallisey | if so then that's fine | 19:36 |
| rhallisey | I wanted to make sure it was added other wise the container is going to have issues | 19:36 |
| mewald | influxdb:x:999:998::/var/lib/influxdb:/bin/false | 19:36 |
| mewald | telegraf:x:998:997::/etc/telegraf:/bin/false | 19:36 |
| mewald | grafana:x:114:119::/usr/share/grafana:/bin/false | 19:36 |
| sdake | hey cats | 19:36 |
| mewald | yeah home are a bit different but everything is created | 19:36 |
| sdake | wow fell asleep | 19:36 |
| mewald | sdake: what's the deal with "cats" :D Is that a saying or something? :D | 19:37 |
| rhallisey | mewald, can you create /home/<grafana/telegraf/influxdb> | 19:37 |
| kfox1111 | gave up and just crated a dummy gmail account to forward to my real account. :/ | 19:38 |
| mewald | but why would I? the DEB package create them as as posted and it works just fine :) | 19:38 |
| rhallisey | ok then leave as is | 19:39 |
| mewald | ok :) | 19:39 |
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| kfox1111 | sdake: what do you think of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327925/? | 19:43 |
| patchbot | kfox1111: patch 327925 - kolla - Enable kolla k8s to override bind api bind address... | 19:43 |
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| kfox1111 | does that fix your concern? | 19:43 |
| Mech422 | mark-casey: thats what I do - my 'provisioning' vlan is native untagged (at home...work is different) | 19:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken Wronkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla: Keystone interface address and memcached override https://review.openstack.org/328569 | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added telegraf container https://review.openstack.org/346445 | 20:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added telegraf role https://review.openstack.org/346448 | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added influxdb container https://review.openstack.org/346446 | 20:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added influxdb role https://review.openstack.org/346449 | 20:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added grafana container https://review.openstack.org/346447 | 20:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added grafana container https://review.openstack.org/346447 | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added grafana role https://review.openstack.org/346450 | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: External Ceph - Implementation Nova https://review.openstack.org/344705 | 20:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added telegraf container https://review.openstack.org/346445 | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla: Add docs for host setup https://review.openstack.org/343223 | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla: Shrink the quickstart massively and break it into 2 https://review.openstack.org/343224 | 20:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla: Build a more organized doc structure https://review.openstack.org/348029 | 20:40 |
| rhallisey | sdake, ^ | 20:40 |
| rhallisey | that should organize things much better | 20:40 |
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| kfox1111 | rhallisey: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/petset-service-agents | 21:08 |
| rhallisey | kfox1111, nice | 21:08 |
| kfox1111 | I tried the petset without a volume template. it works fine. | 21:08 |
| kfox1111 | so its basically just reformatting rc -> petset, and adding a headless service so dns resolves. | 21:09 |
| rhallisey | awesome | 21:12 |
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| rhallisey | eventually we will need docs describing how we used these objects | 21:13 |
| rhallisey | it will probably be an architecutre doc | 21:13 |
| * kfox1111 nods | 21:19 | |
| kfox1111 | i've been using deployments, daemonsets, configmaps, and secrets on one of my kubernetes systems. all are working pretty well. | 21:19 |
| kfox1111 | that reminds me, we really should also switch to using secrets for some configy bits. | 21:20 |
| kfox1111 | generating the configs with credentials in them works well for ansible since it only copies them to the nodes that need them. | 21:21 |
| kfox1111 | but in kubernetes any node can get configs. | 21:21 |
| kfox1111 | secrets will be restricted to only the nodes that have a pod that is registered to have them though. | 21:21 |
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| kfox1111 | wow... cinder multiattach likely pushed all the way to P. :/ | 21:52 |
| kfox1111 | depressing. | 21:52 |
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| kfox1111 | and... more of it.... http://blog.kubernetes.io/2016/07/openstack-kubernetes-communities.html :/ | 23:07 |
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