Tuesday, 2016-05-17

sdakethis stuff is complexicated ;)00:01
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v1k0d3n_gmmaha: hey man...yeah we got it working.01:35
v1k0d3n_there were two places where i needed to accept contributor licenses, and edit address01:35
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jefuz"the spawn" lol01:45
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jefuzhttp://cosmicsound.club/artists/02:18
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update advanced configuration  https://review.openstack.org/31540502:31
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update Cinder guide  https://review.openstack.org/31540702:40
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/31718102:57
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update quickstart guide for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31720503:16
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mdnadeemJeffrey4l, Please re-visit the patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285138/03:25
patchbotmdnadeem: patch 285138 - kolla - Added unit test for kolla_docker03:25
Jeffrey4lmdnadeem, np03:26
Jeffrey4lmdnadeem, why the jenkins give u -1?03:28
mdnadeemJeffrey4l, not getting exactly, non-voting test are fail , still jenkins give -103:29
Jeffrey4lmdnadeem, no. non-voting job won't give you -1.03:30
Jeffrey4lmdnadeem, here is wrong.03:30
Jeffrey4lhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/285138/11/test-requirements.txt03:30
patchbotJeffrey4l: patch 285138 - kolla - Added unit test for kolla_docker03:30
Jeffrey4l1. we use ansilbe < 2 in kolla now.03:31
Jeffrey4l2. seem this is not included in the requirements project.03:31
Jeffrey4lmdnadeem, click the toggle ci , and you will find the gate-kolla-requirements gate failed.03:31
mdnadeemJeffrey4l, yah, but ansible < 2 not support python 3 support, So py34 test get fail03:32
Jeffrey4lkolla do not support ansible > 2.03:32
Jeffrey4lyou can 1) try to skip the unittest under python3 unittest  2) fix the kolla_docker to support python3 ( this is hard)03:33
mdnadeemJeffrey4l, ok, will follow 1. then03:34
Jeffrey4lbtw, I am working on the ansible upgrade to 2.0 work. may be we should work together at this point.03:35
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mdnadeemJeffrey4l, That nice :), Please let me know if i can do anything03:36
Jeffrey4lremember, the ansible 2 do not support python 3.03:36
sdakere requirements - i am pretty sure ansible can't go in the global requirements because of the gplv3 license03:37
Jeffrey4lthanks sdake03:37
sdakeJeffrey4l an ychance you can writ ethe work items for ansible2 blueprint?03:38
Jeffrey4li just start the work. need port these several module to ansible 2.0.03:38
mdnadeemJeffrey4l, Then I will update the patch to skip the unit test for py34 soon :)03:38
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sdakeJeffrey4l i was thinking we could split up the work03:39
sdakeJeffrey4l but if you think you can handle it alone ,wfm03:39
sdakei honestly don't know where to begin03:39
sdakeother then make the parser work03:39
sdakethat seems pretty obvious :)03:39
Jeffrey4lsdake, i will. but right now. I think it is hard to separate this into multi work. I want to fix all the module in one PS. otherwise the gate will not be green in the middle PS.03:40
sdakeJeffrey4l is the module the only thing that needs changing?03:40
sdakeule/ules?03:40
Jeffrey4li think so now.03:41
Jeffrey4li will work on this all day. and report the progress later.03:41
Jeffrey4lmdnadeem, ok03:42
sdakethere is a parallel execution thing i think we should look at after porting03:42
Jeffrey4lsdake, details?03:42
sdakeiirc its called execution strategy03:42
sdakehttp://docs.ansible.com/ansible/playbooks_strategies.html03:43
* Jeffrey4l is checking that.03:44
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Jeffrey4liiuc, this do not change anything if we do not add/change this value.03:47
coolsvapJeffrey4l, will wait to see if you split up the ansible2.0 in tasks03:48
sdakewhat i mean is we should look at  optimizing03:48
Jeffrey4lunderstand.03:48
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Jeffrey4lcoolsvap, i will wort out that asap03:49
coolsvapJeffrey4l, sure take your time!03:50
Jeffrey4l:D03:50
gmmahav1k0d3n_: woohhoo.. awesome03:50
gmmahacan you share the ohter location here with us..03:50
gmmahain case another person runs into the same error03:50
v1k0d3n_well, haha...really need someone to look at it and help me out.03:50
coolsvapsdake, i wanted to start with the functional gating blueprints03:51
v1k0d3n_gmmaha: i can definitely do that. i'll actually write it up. is there any way that i can do some sort of short cut guide or sometthing?03:51
sdakecoolsvap cool lets make a blueprint then ;)03:52
sdakev1k0d3n_ just point it out in the review03:52
sdakeclick a line of the review, type the text you want03:52
sdakethen click "reply" or whatever  the button is03:52
v1k0d3n_you mean for what got my access working?03:52
sdakev1k0d3n_ yup that works too03:53
v1k0d3n_that's what gmmaha was talking about i think.03:53
sdakereviews are a permanent record03:53
sdakegood to put stuff in there that you want permanent03:53
gmmahav1k0d3n_: yeah.. think sdake has a point.. good to write it down as a FYI: in the commit msg03:53
gmmahabut the right place to land is a patch to the docs to say there are two places you ned to touch03:54
gmmahathe 'how to contribute' doc03:54
v1k0d3n_gmmaha: yeah the second point is more what i was thinking...but i can see sdake's point.03:54
sdaketwo placess to touch related to which - the change for horizon?03:55
sdakeif so, the change you have should be the only needed change03:55
coolsvapsdake, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/functional-gating03:55
gmmahasdake: i think I and v1k0d3n_ are talking about the changes to doc to say 'you have to do the contributor agreement at two different palces to be albe to push patches'03:55
v1k0d3n_yeah, different issue sdake...03:56
v1k0d3n_btw...did you pull that down and try it out?03:56
sdakev1k0d3n_ no i just got back from dinner03:56
coolsvapsbezverk_, ping are you online?04:00
coolsvapsbezverk_, seems like you have completed this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/iscsi-cinder04:01
coolsvapsdake, can you approve this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/base-container-repo-cleanup04:08
sdakecoolsvap any core can ack a blueprint04:09
sdakebut typically they go in discussion phase first04:09
sdakefor 1-2 weeks to let people discuss04:09
sdakeso i have configured the blueprint as is typically done for new blueprints04:09
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coolsvapsdake, this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/trove-container is implemented in mitaka marking it as implemented04:13
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coolsvapsdake, sorry i think we were updating the blueprint at the same time04:16
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sdake_bedtime04:22
sdake_goodnight folks04:22
coolsvapsdake_, gn04:22
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update ubuntu dockerfiles for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31723804:35
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for mistral ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31724004:38
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for mistral ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31724004:51
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Remove duplicate murano-base entry in test_build.py  https://review.openstack.org/31724804:59
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for magnum ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725105:08
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for Gnocchi ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725605:25
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for Gnocchi ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725605:27
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for mistral ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31724005:28
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for magnum ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725105:30
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add sahara containers  https://review.openstack.org/31726105:47
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openstackgerritweiyu proposed openstack/kolla: Add a cluster_network interface when we use ceph  https://review.openstack.org/31658806:10
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update ubuntu dockerfiles for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31723806:32
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for murano binary containers for rpm based distros  https://review.openstack.org/31727006:32
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for mistral ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31724006:37
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for magnum ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725106:38
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for Gnocchi ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725606:38
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add ubuntu binary container for zaqar  https://review.openstack.org/31727606:54
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openstackgerritMd Nadeem proposed openstack/kolla: Added unit test for kolla_docker  https://review.openstack.org/28513807:06
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add sahara containers  https://review.openstack.org/31726108:43
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for murano binary containers for rpm based distros  https://review.openstack.org/31727008:46
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add sahara containers  https://review.openstack.org/31726108:48
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openstackgerritPrithiv proposed openstack/kolla: Update doc with password encryption using vault  https://review.openstack.org/31495009:06
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coolsvapallen_gao, ping09:30
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update ubuntu dockerfiles for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31723809:57
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update ubuntu dockerfiles for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31723810:13
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update quickstart guide for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31720510:13
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update the horizon dockerfile for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31736310:13
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support to lint the install commands in Dockerfiles  https://review.openstack.org/31736410:13
coolsvappbourke, ^^ linting the install commands10:13
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for Gnocchi ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725610:19
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for murano binary containers for rpm based distros  https://review.openstack.org/31727010:19
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add sahara containers  https://review.openstack.org/31726110:19
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mlimamorning folks11:27
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coolsvapmorning mlima11:30
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pbourkecoolsvap: ooh11:31
pbourkelooking :)11:31
coolsvappbourke, very basic check11:31
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for Gnocchi ubuntu binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725611:33
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coolsvapneed some more though11:35
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pbourkegood start11:37
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Updated Gnocchi binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725611:37
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support to lint the install commands in Dockerfiles  https://review.openstack.org/31736411:53
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update quickstart guide for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31720511:58
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update ubuntu dockerfiles for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31723812:00
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update ubuntu dockerfiles for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31723812:01
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support for murano binary containers for rpm based distros  https://review.openstack.org/31727012:02
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add sahara containers  https://review.openstack.org/31726112:02
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Updated Gnocchi binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725612:03
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Remove unwanted test dependency zake  https://review.openstack.org/31741812:11
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Bump the ansible to 2  https://review.openstack.org/31742112:17
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Fix the rabbitmq crash on CentOS binary and source deploy  https://review.openstack.org/31586012:26
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openstackgerritRyan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Document a kubernetes allinone setup  https://review.openstack.org/31309513:07
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dims_rhallisey : we need this too - https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/506/commits/db26b756d56a0c575fa9ee38e3735dc393fbd59f13:10
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rhalliseydims_, gotcha13:13
rhalliseyerr13:13
rhalliseydims_, I'll add this to a quickstart13:13
dims_thanks rhallisey13:13
rhalliseydims_, thanks for the head up13:13
rhalliseydims_, did you try the cli from the local dir?13:14
rhalliseydarn pep8 rejected it13:14
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dims_rhallisey : i rechecked it i think13:19
dims_rhallisey : code looked good, will try in a little bit :)13:19
rhalliseycool thanks dims_13:19
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openstackgerritRyan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Document a kubernetes allinone setup  https://review.openstack.org/31309513:20
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kjellyAre there any plan to add support backup/restore kolla?13:45
inc0good morning13:46
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mlimamorning inc013:52
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: blueprint kolla-kubernetes-service-discovery  https://review.openstack.org/31753714:30
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sbezverk_rhallisey dims just pushed for review BP for dynamic service discovery, appreciate a lot your feedback14:31
rhalliseysweet14:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Allow for CLI to work from kolla-kubernetes dir  https://review.openstack.org/31583814:33
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/kolla: Stop configuring neutron to enforce DHCP MTU option  https://review.openstack.org/31125814:39
sdake_bbiaf14:39
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nilkHey guys14:48
nilkis there some document describing the current state of high availability in Kolla?14:48
nilki.e. is there any high availability support?14:50
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pbourkenilk: its fully HA14:56
pbourkenilk: in a default multinode deploy14:57
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nilkpbourke: nice14:57
nilkit uses keepalived, right?14:57
pbourkeyes14:57
nilkincluding the controller and networking nodes?14:58
sdake_pbourke morning dude14:59
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sdake_nilk the cotroller nodes only use keepalived14:59
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sdake_keepalived provides a mechnaism to proxy into the api services14:59
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nilkI've read the HA spec, has everything in there been implemented?15:00
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nilkif I understand it correctly, all API endpoints are behind HAProxy, HAProxy itself is monitored using keepalived15:01
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sdake_nilk right - and if keepalived detectsa a failed haproxy out of the pool15:02
sdake_if keepalived detects a ndoe failure, it moves the vip15:02
sdake_haproxy out of the pool / moves haproxy out of the pool15:02
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nilkI see, cool15:02
coolsvapsbezverk_, ping15:04
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sbezverk_coolsvap pong15:04
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inc0sdake_, not entirely true15:05
inc0we use keepalived on network nodes only15:05
inc0and haproxy on network nodes15:05
coolsvapsbezverk_, I think your iscsi changes are similar to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/iscsi-cinder15:05
inc0so it's only relevant for network nodes15:05
inc0controllers are load balanced by HAProxy15:05
sdake_inc0 cool thanks for the correction15:05
inc0nilk, ^^15:05
* sdake_ elects inc0 to write our HA documentation :)15:05
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inc0yeah this question is asked from time to time;) I'll do it15:06
sbezverk_coolsvap possibly but I do not see any work associated with that spec15:06
inc0pardon my English15:06
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coolsvapsbezverk_, yes15:07
coolsvapanything in the spec missing from your changes?15:07
sdaketime to time15:08
sbezverk_coolsvap there is another BP which I published and all iscsi work was done under by BP umbrella15:08
sdakehow about 3 times a week atleast :)15:08
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nilkthanks everyone :)15:08
sbezverk_coolsvap I would suggest to obsolete that one as duplicate15:09
coolsvapsbezverk_, ohk15:09
sdakeif folks want ot review ugprade documentation15:09
sdakehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/317084/15:09
patchbotsdake: patch 317084 - kolla - Document upgrading for operators15:09
sdakeinc0 ^^15:09
nilkI think I understood the basics15:09
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coolsvapgot it https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/iscsi-lvm2-docker15:09
nilkwe're new to Kolla and we chose it for an entirely new OpenStack cluster15:09
nilklet's see how that goes15:10
nilkI'll take note of any missing documentation ;)15:10
sdakecoolsvap re your last comment in the review you provided15:10
sdakecoolsvap move :: up a line - I think that is not syntactically correct, :: should be on its own line15:10
sdake:: marks a rendering block for code right?15:10
coolsvapsdake, yes unless we have a : at the end, we do not need to move it to next line15:11
sdakenilk cool - have you got AIO running ?15:11
nilkno we're literally starting from scratch15:11
coolsvap: at the end of statement15:11
sdakecoolsvap i'd like our docs to be consistent15:11
sdakenilk how do you know if kolla is the right approach for you ?15:11
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sdakenilk i'd hate for you to deploy a whole clodu andd find out you dont like kolla :)15:12
coolsvapsdake, its consistent with current changes :)15:12
sdakecoolsvap ya i'm pretty sure i -1'ed that change ;)15:12
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sdakei really dont like that usage of ::15:12
sdakeits supposed to be on a separate line imo15:12
inc0nilk, please do, it will be long note15:12
nilksdake: we'll start with an AIO deployment and if we like it, we'll use it for our cluster15:12
nilksdake: the only alternative (that I'm aware of) was openstack-ansible15:13
inc0nilk, there are few caveats for aio tho15:13
sdakenilk cool - sounds good15:13
inc0for example ceph requires some config changes15:13
nilkand I really like the stateless approach15:13
inc0it's documented in ceph guide15:13
inc0nilk, openstack-ansible does things completely differently15:13
sdakenilk well it is sort of stateless, docker contains all the state :)15:13
sdakeosad is a completely different tech15:13
sdakenilk i'd just recommend evaling before going whole hog - to make sure kolla is right for you15:14
sdakenilk fastest way is aio :)15:14
nilkyes, that's what we're doing right now15:14
nilkbut looks great so far15:14
sdakesweet15:14
sdakehit us up for any questions15:14
nilkwill do, thanks!15:14
nilkwe're not going to use ceph anyway, local storage for dev and a 3par storage for prod15:15
sdakewhat is 3par storage15:15
nilkproprietary storage hardware from HP15:15
sdakeok - does it require special drivers?15:15
nilkyes15:15
inc0nilk, so you might need to play some more with cinder to make use of 3par15:15
inc0it uses iscsi interface afair?15:16
nilkyes15:16
sdakeif your using 3par for glance/nova backend, same story there15:16
sdakedoes 3par publish their drivers for the various projects?15:16
inc0we don't have iscsi in mitaka, fyi15:16
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coolsvapsdake, http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#literal-blocks15:16
inc0I think;)15:16
nilkiSCSI and a driver which talks to their API15:16
nilkall open source, with plenty of documentation15:17
nilkwe'll probably have to fork the Cinder role as far as I can tell15:17
nilksince it's tailored to Ceph15:17
inc0nilk, not really15:17
inc0if you'd use master, you're good15:18
inc0you need separate container for iscsi15:18
sdakecoolsvap ok looks good then - as long as rst is valid syntax15:18
inc0but stable/mitaka doesn't have it yet15:18
nilkhmm15:18
nilkmaster is scary15:18
inc0I know15:18
nilkI like it when it says "stable"15:18
coolsvapsdake, thx15:18
sdakenilk you can always backport iscsi15:18
inc0but iscsi doesn't really like containers15:18
sdakestable/mitaka doesn't have it ever15:18
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inc0another way would be to use our current master code and deploy mitaka openstack with it15:19
nilkI'd have set it up directly on the host15:19
sdakethe work is all in a blueprint - easily backportable15:19
inc0nilk, you could do that, but there is more to it15:19
sdakeya master of our codebase is in good shape15:19
sdakebut its getting ready to get broken seriouslybadly :)15:19
inc0https://github.com/openstack/kolla/tree/master/ansible/roles/iscsi look at this role15:19
inc0and cinder roles15:19
sdakenilk anyway befoer we jump to conclusions on 3par, lets sort out the eval :)15:20
inc0to diff cinder role with stable/mitaka15:20
inc0you should get hang of what's needed to enable it15:20
sdakeinc0 the iscsi patches can be straight up cherrypicked15:20
nilkso you're saying that today's master branch is OK to use?15:20
inc0well, I'd avoid that15:20
inc0as it leaves you with messy code15:20
sdakenilk so master deploys master of openstack15:20
inc0but that's a config change15:21
nilkwell we don't want that15:21
sdakenilk what inc0 suggested is using master of kolla but have it deploy mitaka of openstack15:21
inc0if you want to deploy mitaka15:21
inc0I can walk you through it15:21
inc0brb15:21
nilkthat'd be great15:21
nilkif you recommend taking that approach15:21
sdakenilk but i think a patch stream with iscsi backports is a far superior approach15:21
nilkas far as I can tell, HP's 3par driver wants to manage iSCSI itself15:21
sdakebecause master breaks all the time15:21
sdakebecause our gate is leaky15:21
nilkthe more stable, the better15:22
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sdakenilk the most stable is to backport the iscsi changes using git ccherrypick -x GITID15:22
sdakeof all the iscsi work15:22
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nilkwe don't want to take any risks15:23
sdakenilk [08:22:43]  <sdake>nilk the most stable is to backport the iscsi changes using git ccherrypick -x GITID15:23
sdake[08:22:45]  <sdake>of all the iscsi work15:23
nilkwe'll do that then, thanks15:23
sdakesbezverk_ where was your blueprint for iscsi work15:23
nilkI'm familiar with Ansible, so that shouldn't be an issue15:23
sdakenilk it should be as simply as cherrypicking a few commits15:23
nilkare there any alternatives to Kolla that I should be aware of?15:23
sdakefew being 5-6 :)15:24
sdakethat use ansible?15:24
nilkin general15:24
sdakethere are several deployment tools15:24
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sdakefuel - puppet based - tripleo - hard to explain what its based on :)15:24
sbezverk_sdake do you want link?15:24
sdakesbezverk_ plz15:24
nilkTripleO is scary15:24
nilkI closed the tab when I read "undercloud" and "overcloud"15:25
sdakewe might introduce an overcloud and undercloud model15:25
sbezverk_sdake https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/iscsi-lvm2-docker15:25
sdakebut it would be as simple as different directives in an invetory file15:25
nilkI see how it could be useful15:25
sdakeso that undercloud stuff (like ironic) canbe deployed on the deploy node15:25
nilkbut I want to keep it simple for now15:25
nilkwe have our own PXE system anyway15:25
sdakeya we arent doing anything in stable branches related to feature dev15:25
sdakenilk if you click sbezverk_ 's link above, you will see all the patches for iscsi15:26
nilkthanks15:27
sdakethis channel is also logged, so if you lose it you can find it again later if you remember that today is may 17th :)15:27
nilkis there any major missing feature/bug/drawback that we should be aware of with Kolla?15:27
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nilkyeah, backporting those shouldn't be an issue15:29
nilkI'll bring it up in our dev meeting later15:29
inc0nilk, fuel doesn't give you container as of now15:29
inc0and upgrades are a no-no15:29
inc0openstack-ansible is pretty solid, but it has it's own issues15:29
nilkmy previous experiences with Puppet were bad anyway15:29
inc0it uses lxc containers like vms15:30
coolsvapsdake, we can obselete https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/iscsi-cinder ??15:30
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inc0so it literally ssh to it and do stuff15:30
nilkyeah I saw that15:30
inc0and few of services are outside of container15:30
nilkI did not like it15:30
inc0namely...cinder;)15:30
inc0and nova-cpu15:30
inc0so they solved container-iscsi issue by not using a container;)15:30
nilkheh ;)15:31
nilkI mean, well, if it works...15:31
inc0sure15:31
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nilkbut it's much nicer that way15:31
nilkI imagine upgrades are fairly easy with Kolla?15:31
inc0so try either what sdake said or take snapshot of master and deploy mitaka with it15:31
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inc0my personal preference would be the latter15:32
inc0nilk, seamless;)15:32
inc0well..as far as services allows15:32
inc0but it's basically kolla-ansible upgrade15:32
nilknice15:32
inc0one command to rule them all15:32
inc0and we actually try to make it as rolling as possible15:32
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nilkthe "serial: 30%" part?15:33
nilkhow's the story for upgrades between major releases?15:34
nilkI've heard people say that it cannot be done without downtime in some cases15:34
nilkin general, unrelated to Kolla15:34
inc0nilk, more than that15:35
inc0https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/ansible/roles/nova/tasks/upgrade.yml this is upgrade of nova15:36
inc0major release upgrade I mean15:36
sdakeinc0 also works for minor release ;)15:36
inc0we try to do it without downtime as much as possible15:36
nilkcool15:36
inc0well...obviously15:36
inc0;)15:36
nilkand nova? live migrate containers to another host?15:36
nilkoh, nevermind15:36
inc0it's made for release upgrades so minor upgrades will make it a bit of overkill15:37
nilkit just leaves the VM alone I assume?15:37
sbezverk_sdake since you were on iscsi topic, any chance you review this: https://review.openstack.org/31415015:37
sdakesbezverk_ morning rush getting kids to school15:37
sdakenilk yes leaves vm untouched15:38
sdakenilk kollas entire upgrade strategy is not to make a mess in the firsst place to upgrade FROM15:38
inc0nilk, we don't touch vms15:38
inc0but there is no real reason to do it as well15:38
sdakethis makes upgrades TO easy :)15:38
inc0don't be too cocky sdake ;)15:39
sdakenot cocky15:39
sdakehonest evaluation15:39
inc0but it makes things WAY easier than other deployers, true15:39
nilkwell sounds like a solid strategy15:39
inc0one of biggest benefits of containers imho15:40
nilkwe'll build a PoC and probably use it for our prod cluster, if we don't discover any major issue15:40
nilkI like the clean container approach15:40
nilkeverything else is a bit messy15:40
inc0yeah, well, iscsi might need some tinkering15:40
inc0dunno how 3par will handle it15:40
inc0but I'm sure we can figure something out15:41
nilkour current PoC cluster is hand-built with the previous release, so we do know how OpenStack works15:41
nilkwe just have zero interest in doing that for Mitaka15:41
inc0good thinking.15:41
nilkyeah I'm not concerned about iSCSI15:41
nilkworst case, we deploy it outside of the container15:42
inc0well, you'll need to make minor changes to cinder role in asible15:42
nilkwe're going to use 16.04 LTS, is that recommended?15:42
inc0but like 2 lines of changes15:42
inc0as base operating system, it's ok15:42
inc0inside container, not supported yet15:42
inc0we work on it15:43
nilkok15:43
nilkfine15:43
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sdakeya the 16.04 thing is being sorted out15:49
sdakei think we need to implement both15:49
sdakeiirc Jeffrey4l wasn't hot on this idea15:49
sdakebut 14.04 is essentially EOL15:49
inc0I don't really want both as well15:49
sdakeand for newton we want to iplement what people will actually deploy15:49
inc0I'm all for Newton-just 16.0415:50
sdakeyup thats viable too15:50
inc0most of the world takes this approach15:50
sdakewhat Jeffrey4l had said in the past is not to move to 16.04 until after newton iirc15:50
sdakewhich is not viable15:50
nilkI'm fine with either for the containers15:50
nilkwe can easily rebuild them before 14.04 is EOL15:51
nilkbut it's nice to hear that 16.04 is supported as host OS15:51
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nilkany gotchas for AIO deployment, except cinder?15:51
inc0hmm...nothing too bad I think15:51
nilkok, nice!15:52
nilkcan AIO run in a KVM VM?15:52
inc0quickstart guide is pretty comprehensive15:52
inc0that's how I mostly run it for dev;)15:52
inc0only I don't really do aio any more15:52
inc0;)15:52
inc0also make sure to enable_central_logging: true15:52
nilkthanks :)15:52
inc0it's neat;)15:53
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inc0when you'll go for multinode anyway15:53
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Jeffrey4lI think we should support only one ubuntu distro in newton rather than two. 14.04 or 16.04 is fine.16:02
Jeffrey4lsdake, inc0 ^^16:02
sdake14.04 is eol16:03
inc0Jeffrey4l, agree, and let's make it 16.0416:03
Jeffrey4lagreed.16:03
inc0there you go, we don't even argue about that...I miss Sam16:04
inc0my blood pressure is lower without him around16:04
Jeffrey4llol16:04
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sbezverk_inc0 hey since your blood presure is not too high, any chance you can review this PS:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314150/16:10
patchbotsbezverk_: patch 314150 - kolla - Adding variables for Cinder iSCSI backend configur...16:10
pbourkeinc0: you're wrong!16:11
pbourkeinc0: there you go :)16:11
pbourkefilling the void16:11
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inc0haha16:13
inc0now this channel feels like home16:13
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack/kolla: Document upgrading for operators  https://review.openstack.org/31708416:15
sdakepbourke we are all wrong :)16:16
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inc0so we're going all philosophical now?16:17
inc0how everything is fundamentally wrong and we should strive for Platonic ideal world?16:19
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Bump the ansible to 2  https://review.openstack.org/31742116:33
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Add support to lint the install commands in Dockerfiles  https://review.openstack.org/31736416:37
openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Updated Gnocchi binary containers  https://review.openstack.org/31725616:39
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Update quickstart guide for formatting  https://review.openstack.org/31720516:43
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Fix the rabbitmq crash on CentOS binary and source deploy  https://review.openstack.org/31586017:03
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Make passwords.yml file generation configurable  https://review.openstack.org/31764217:39
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Kolla Kubernetes Service Discovery BP  https://review.openstack.org/31753718:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Make Heka collect Ceph logs  https://review.openstack.org/31026119:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Add a cluster_network interface when we use ceph  https://review.openstack.org/31658819:21
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mark-caseysean-k-mooney: ping21:08
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sean-k-mooneymark-casey: pong21:12
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mark-caseyI opened this about a week ago (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bifrost/+bug/1580322) with your bifrost poc in mind because I think the skip_install inconsistency makes it harder to split things up. I'm not planning to submit any changes on it since you're still in the middle of things but, based on the response in the bug of wanting to be careful, I created a tagging version of your bifrost branch that I thought might make an easier21:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1580322 in bifrost "skip_install usage appears inconsistent" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Stephane Miller (stephaneeee)21:25
mark-caseyoops sean-k-mooney ^^21:26
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mark-caseyhttps://github.com/mark-casey/bifrost/tree/split_with_tags21:26
cineramahey mark-casey21:26
mark-caseyhello cinerama21:26
cineramacool idea21:26
cineramai want to chat with julia about this once she's back21:27
sean-k-mooneymark-casey:  ah yes i remember you mentioned https://bugs.launchpad.net/bifrost/+bug/1580322 before21:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1580322 in bifrost "skip_install usage appears inconsistent" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Stephane Miller (stephaneeee)21:27
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mark-caseyyea. so the first two (should have been one) commits that branch replicate the playbook split, and the third one replaces skip_install21:29
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sean-k-mooneyhow would ye like to proceed with this in relation to the other biforst changes?21:29
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sean-k-mooneyok21:29
mark-caseyansible-playbook -vvvv -i /bifrost/playbooks/inventory/localhost /bifrost/playbooks/install.yaml -e skip_bootstrap -e skip_start21:30
mark-caseywould become ansible-playbook -vvvv -i /bifrost/playbooks/inventory/localhost /bifrost/playbooks/install.yaml --skip-tags bifrost_bootstrap bifrost_start21:30
sean-k-mooneyok that seams like a small change so it should be easy to intergrate.21:30
sean-k-mooneyi was planning on breaking up my monoliting patch tommorrow in to a patch series. would you like me to base it on your patch chain instead?21:32
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sean-k-mooneyi am just reading your commits now21:33
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mark-caseyI just wanted to make the suggestion. IMO the benefit would be that the playbook could be functionally split now by using --tags and --skip-tags without actually splitting it (yet), so the chance of existing things like skip_install breaking are lowered.21:35
sean-k-mooneyok well another way to approch that would be for me not to use skip_install and introduce a skip_package_install so that i do not reuse skip_install21:37
sean-k-mooneywill the --skip-tags remove the skip messages in the playbook output?21:37
mark-caseyhrmm. let me look at some logs i have I don't remember21:37
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sean-k-mooneyi personally prefer having the 3 phases as tree seperate file but im not too pushed either way. cinerama any taughts?21:39
sean-k-mooneywe could submit both verisons of the split code and discuss as part of the review.21:40
sean-k-mooneycinerama: i belive you also mentioned a thrid approch of haveing 3 different roles. bifrost-ironic-install bifrost-ironic-bootstrap bifrost-ironic-start21:41
mark-caseysean-k-mooney: you do still get the skipped tasks in output. I prefer the split as well, but with a split bifrost CI has to change at the same time. This just breaks the project coordination into a few parts, and presumably the three primary tags would go away once it is split21:42
cineramayes, splitting up by roles could be good21:42
cineramasplitting by roles will require a change to the test playbooks21:43
sean-k-mooneyi think all 3 options are viable. am well the intent was that if you did ansible-playbook -vvvv -i /bifrost/playbooks/inventory/localhost /bifrost/playbooks/install.yaml with out the -e skip_* it would have the current behavior it has today21:43
cineramaer, to the install playbook21:43
cineramai don't see changing the install playbook as a total dealkiller for doing the change that way21:44
cineramawhereas we haven't used tags before21:44
sean-k-mooneycinerama: if we split be roles would we not just have to include each role here https://github.com/openstack/bifrost/blob/master/playbooks/install.yaml#L921:44
cineramayup pretty much. and then you'd have your conditional there for starting services etc21:45
mark-caseyright and afaik there isn't any real difference between tags and the existing var option. I just find tags more concise when having to check multiple of them21:45
g3ekhello all, I would like to know what trigger the run_once to run in an ansible playbook? I have a task that need to run only the first launch, but the run_once give me an error21:47
sean-k-mooneyso since tags are not currently used though in bifrost would it be better to use the -e vars or introduce tags?21:47
cineramai'd probably just specify the variables for now tbh21:48
sean-k-mooneycinerama: ok  i can alway switch to tags later in the review or as a follow up change if desired.21:49
sean-k-mooneycinerama: do you have a preference between 3 roles or one with 2 includes in the install main?21:49
sean-k-mooneys/2 includes/3 includes/21:50
cineramaperhaps it's more iterative to do the includes, and move to roles later21:50
mark-caseyright. ok. it had not fully clicked for me that the var option also retains the prior behavior21:50
cineramabecause we'll have to make sure everything gets the right variables21:50
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sean-k-mooneyok then i will split up the change as discussed before and we can convert to roles or tags if desired as an addtional patch on top to keep it incramental21:51
cineramasounds good21:52
cineramalooking forward to having a play with it21:52
mark-caseyfor sure. I have not tried the poc yet and need to21:52
sean-k-mooneyhopefully the existing biforst behavior will not be changed at all and the addtion functionality will only take place if the variables are defiend21:53
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sean-k-mooneyill try and submit both the bifrost and kolla patches tommorow so that ye can try them out if ye have time21:54
sdake_harlowja ping21:54
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mark-caseycool21:56
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mark-caseyg3ek: I believe the task will run every time the playbook gets run. However if there are three hosts that would have run the task only one of them will21:57
mark-caseyit is roughly the same as "when: inventory_hostname == my_group_name[0]"21:57
g3ekdamn... So it supposed to work ahahaha21:58
cineramasean-k-mooney, that would be great21:58
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cineramasean-k-mooney, i will likely withhold approval until julia has had a chance to review21:59
sean-k-mooneycinerama: no worries. i have alot of work to do on the kolla side to intergrate it with the deploy playbook22:00
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mark-caseylater all, thx :)22:01
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cineramasean-k-mooney awesome, looking forward to seeing it22:01
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sean-k-mooneycinerama: thanks for your help with this by the way. i good to have input form the bifrost commutiy on this early to make sure that the change i am suggesting fit with what ye would like also22:03
sdakeneed work on rebasing and fixing bugs :)22:04
sdakehttps://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/1.1.122:04
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cineramasean-k-mooney, hey no problem...it is really exciting for us to have increased adoption22:05
sean-k-mooneycinerama: im going to call it a night. talk to everyone tommorow.22:10
cinerama'night. let us know if you need anything22:12
openstackgerritFrancesco Vollero proposed openstack/kolla: Fixed typos in Ansible files  https://review.openstack.org/31775222:13
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harlowjasdake whats up22:19
vhosakothttps://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/1.1.1 are all Liberty bugs, right ?  so, no "master-first, then backport" rule for them ?22:25
sdakevhosakot yes master first22:27
sdakethose all have bugs in master22:27
sdakebut some o fthem are already fixed in master22:28
vhosakotah ok.. https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/1.1.1 are bugs in master.. cool22:28
sdakeand need a simple backport22:28
sdakeharlowja i forgot what i planned to say22:28
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harlowjalol22:28
sdakeharlowja i'm sure it will come to me :)22:28
harlowjak22:28
vhosakotyep.. cool22:28
sdakeoh it was about the differences between osad and kolla22:28
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sdakei didn't want to start a flame war on openstack-operators list22:28
sdakebut basically early on we tried to merge - but kevin and I couldn't figure out how to make it happen22:29
sdakeosad already had a full implementationa22:29
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sdakeand we had docker containers only an AIO deply with docker compose22:29
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sdakeat issue is the architectures are totally different22:30
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sdakeand by totally I mean utterrly and completely :)22:30
sdakethe only thing hey really share in common is the use of ansible22:30
sdakeof which many operators are using already22:30
sdake(proprietary stuff)22:30
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harlowjainterseting22:57
harlowjawhats the TLDR on the difference in architectures?22:57
harlowja(curious)22:58
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Collect more info from the gate for debug  https://review.openstack.org/31550523:04
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Fix the rabbitmq crash on CentOS binary and source deploy  https://review.openstack.org/31586023:05
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Jeffrey4lsdake, hey23:26
Jeffrey4lcould u have any time to see this PS? https://review.openstack.org/31586023:27
Jeffrey4lI have no idea for why it happened. the hostname is not changed, which cause the rabbitmq crash on centos binary.23:28
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Jeffrey4lhere is the debug log: provement23:28
Jeffrey4lhttp://logs.openstack.org/60/315860/25/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-centos-binary/0cec277/console.html#_2016-05-17_17_26_31_46923:29
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sdakeJeffrey4l what about cat /etc/hosts?23:31
Jeffrey4lit is right.23:32
sdakeis it an ipv6 address?23:32
Jeffrey4lthe root cause is: in hosts, the node1 is the first one. like x.x.x.x node1 `origial hostname`23:33
Jeffrey4lbut ansible_hostname is the `original hostname`, which is not expected.23:33
sdakewhere do you see ansible_hostname?23:33
sdakei have no idea where that pretty hostname in hostnamectl comes from23:34
sdakeand i am at my folks house so ddont have access to my lab from here23:34
sdakeactually i might sec23:34
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Jeffrey4li can not reproduce this in my env.23:35
sdakeopen("/proc/sys/kernel/random/boot_id", O_RDONLY|O_NOCTTY|O_CLOEXEC) = 423:36
sdakeread(4, "3edfbd8e-6ef4-4ae9-b751-3fcce15d"..., 36) = 3623:36
sdakeclose(4)                                = 023:36
sdakeclose(3)                                = 023:36
sdakewrite(1, "   Static hostname: localhost.lo"..., 408) = 40823:36
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sdakeJeffrey4l i am missing information - such as the root cause23:37
sdakedo you ahve any idea what that is?23:37
Jeffrey4lno idea. :(23:37
Jeffrey4lsdake, see here http://logs.openstack.org/21/317421/2/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-centos-binary/934f8f5/console.html#_2016-05-17_17_04_58_56223:37
sdakewhat is it you think is causing the problem23:37
Jeffrey4l"getent", "ahostsv4", "centos-7-rax-ord-867067"23:37
Jeffrey4lcentos-7-rax-ord-867067 is got by using `ansible_hostname` in the code.23:38
Jeffrey4lwhich is wrong.23:38
Jeffrey4lsdake, maybe selinux. I am not sure now.23:38
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sdakedid you try turning off selinux23:39
sdakeor capturing the audit log23:39
sdake /etc/hosts is correct?23:40
sdakewhich version of ansible is on these machine?23:40
Jeffrey4li am trying to capture the audit log now. never test turning off the selinux.23:40
Jeffrey4lsdake, ansible1.9 and ansible 2 both have such issue.23:40
sdakedoes it crash consistently?23:40
sdakehave wich issue?23:40
Jeffrey4lI think it is not related to ansible.23:40
Jeffrey4lhostname is not change after changed it.23:41
sdakeyou keep saying they have an issue, I dont understand what the issue is :023:41
sdakewho changed the hostname?23:41
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Jeffrey4lansible. now. But I tested change it manaully.23:41
sdakewhere does ansible change the hostname?23:42
Jeffrey4lhttps://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/tools/setup_nodes.yml#L1523:42
Jeffrey4lsdake, ^23:42
sdakethat last paste you sent looked way wrong23:42
sdakeso this is probably related to ipv6 and erlang changess23:43
sdakeor selinux alternatively23:43
Jeffrey4lat least not a erlang issue. I positive.23:44
sdaketell me what you think it is23:45
Jeffrey4lOK. I will try to disable the selinux and see what will happen.23:45
sdakeyou think that the hostname is not assigned by ansible once you use the hostname module?23:45
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Jeffrey4lmaybe I need simplify this question too..23:45
sdakewell this getent looks wrong http://logs.openstack.org/21/317421/2/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-centos-binary/934f8f5/console.html#_2016-05-17_17_04_58_56223:47
sdakein terms of results23:47
sdakei think the root of the problem is changing hostnames23:47
sdakecan't we jutt modify the inventory file?23:48
Jeffrey4lI have no idea about the result... not farmiliar with `getent` :(23:48
sdakehttp://paste.fedoraproject.org/367767/52893414/ -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/367767/5289341423:49
Jeffrey4lI think we can. I have no idea about why we need change it to nodeXX.23:49
sdakeprobably to make multinode debugging easier23:49
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sdakecheck out that paste23:49
sdakeand compare to the last link you pasted23:49
Jeffrey4lchecked.23:49
sdakethat is my getent ahostsv423:49
sdakeyou see how getent is returning about 50 lines23:50
Jeffrey4lnormally, it is short.23:50
Jeffrey4lyes23:50
Jeffrey4lsome line is replicated.23:50
sdakeya well that isn't correct23:50
sdakeand getent reads /etc/hosts23:51
sdakehttp://paste.fedoraproject.org/367768/29097146/ -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/367768/2909714623:51
sdakei think capturing the audit log is important23:52
sdakeit will tell us if there are selinux things going on23:52
sdakeso i'll submit a quick change to do that23:52
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Jeffrey4lthe last commit is capturing the audit log. just wait for the result. https://review.openstack.org/31586023:53
Jeffrey4lneed get up and have breakfast. :)23:54
sdakei thought you were turning off selinux?23:54
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack/kolla: GATe TeSt DNM  https://review.openstack.org/31777723:55
harlowjasdake since u prob didn't see23:55
harlowja"<harlowja>whats the TLDR on the difference in architectures?"23:55
harlowja*in relation to osad23:55
sdakeharlowja kolla has two steps - build and deploy23:55
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sdakeosad has one step build and deploy23:55
sdakeharlowja kolla uses thin containers23:56
sdakeosad uses fat containers23:56
sdakekolla upgrades are atomic23:56
sdakeosad is not23:56
sdakealthough I think they are changing all that around to follow a model more closely to kolla23:56
sdakeone big difference is the reliance on lxc in osad23:56
sdakekolla relies on docker23:56
sdakei know nothing about lxc23:56
harlowjaoh, that's an interesting point, my experience with ansible is not-fully-developed, how does that work in ansible, i see  serial: "30%" and such in kolla, does that do the atomic rollout stuffs?23:57
sdakeso I can't compare the tech23:57
sdakethat does a rolling upgrade23:57
sdakethe atomic part is because we delete a container and create a new one23:57
harlowjakk23:57
harlowjanot atomic in like the whole thing rolled out or didn't23:57
sdakeya not data center atomic23:57
harlowjakk23:57
sdakeatomic per container23:57
harlowjawhy u no solve the world23:57
harlowjalol23:57
sdakewhen we obsolete kolla we will have a fully data center atomic ugprade ;-)23:58
harlowjalol23:58
harlowjafair nuff23:58
sdakethats my long term 5+ year view of kolla23:58
harlowjamakes sense23:58
sdakei dont quite know if its entirely possible23:58
sdakebut I have a technique for doing pretty close to atomic upgrades23:58
sdakeusing a ring architecture23:58
harlowja??23:58
harlowjaall i can think of is token-ring :(23:59
sdakeform a ring of the nodes, rotate a token aroudn the ring23:59
sdakethe token contorls the upgrade or downgrade process23:59
harlowjasounds like u thinking of token-ring also, lol23:59
harlowja(the networking stuff, lol)23:59
sdakeon each successive rotation the ugprade either occurs on one rotation or it doens't23:59
sdakethis is long term stuff23:59

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