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| lbragstad | jamielennox: that's a good question | 01:50 |
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| lbragstad | right now it will always be {"all", true} | 01:51 |
| lbragstad | just because we don't have the ability to scope to something other than the system as a whole | 01:51 |
| lbragstad | that said, it could change to something like {"compute": "7fce0720478d4595bc02970a1d467d51"} | 01:52 |
| lbragstad | in the future | 01:52 |
| lbragstad | if 7fce0720478d4595bc02970a1d467d51 is the service id or something like that | 01:52 |
| * lbragstad shrugs | 01:52 | |
| lbragstad | i'm not sure what the best way is to relay the information | 01:52 |
| lbragstad | s/the/that/ | 01:52 |
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| jamielennox | that's an interesting target - the concept has obviously changed a bit since i last looked | 01:55 |
| jamielennox | there was talk about having system be able to be targetted to a region | 01:56 |
| lbragstad | right | 01:56 |
| jamielennox | but last i was involved you could do a region and then use roles to be able to restrict to compute | 01:56 |
| lbragstad | before we just had to deal with an id that could belong to a project or a domain, so this is obviously more complicated than that | 01:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | lei zhang proposed openstack/keystone master: Fix the outdated URL https://review.openstack.org/564714 | 09:49 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: this weeks bug report https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/80862a9111ff821af07e43e217c52190 | 13:45 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: nice | 13:46 |
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| mordred | oh look. it's a jamielennox | 14:48 |
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| cmurphy | yay thank you to whoever started adding to the update etherpad | 14:57 |
| * cmurphy is scatterbrained today | 14:57 | |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: no worries - i just jotted down a couple things | 15:16 |
| lbragstad | feel free to reword it how ever you wish | 15:16 |
| cmurphy | already sent it out | 15:24 |
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| lbragstad | oh - fantastic | 15:37 |
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| lbragstad | jamielennox: i responded to your comments here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530509/5/oslo_context/context.py | 16:30 |
| lbragstad | curious if you have a suggestions for what to do with `system` if it's a dictionary | 16:30 |
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| mordred | lbragstad: delete it | 16:54 |
| mordred | lbragstad: delete everything | 16:54 |
| * lbragstad types in sudo rm -rf / | 16:54 | |
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| gagehugo | --no-preserve-root | 16:57 |
| lbragstad | lol | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Introduce new TokenModel object https://review.openstack.org/559129 | 17:25 |
| kmalloc | mordred: o/ | 17:25 |
| kmalloc | See I'm here! | 17:25 |
| * kmalloc kicks irccloud hard. | 17:25 | |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: gagehugo wxy i thought i was hitting transient issues with loading the backend drivers... but i couldn't reproduce it | 17:25 |
| lbragstad | ^ | 17:25 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: in what way? Oh in the token model change? | 17:26 |
| lbragstad | that patch introduces a new base class that uses bootstrap instead of the massive ksfixtures loading TestCase does today | 17:26 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 17:26 |
| kmalloc | Cool. Yay bootstrap | 17:26 |
| lbragstad | it'd be nice to get rid of all the stuff we have that loads custom test data | 17:26 |
| lbragstad | in favor of what bootstrap does | 17:26 |
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| lbragstad | then push the test class specific data needed to certain tests into the setup classes of those classes | 17:27 |
| lbragstad | needed by* | 17:27 |
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| lbragstad | ideally - we could start converting TestCase to TestCaseWithBootstrap | 17:33 |
| lbragstad | once everything is moved over, we could rename TestCaseWithBootstrap to TestCase and remove the load_fixtures method | 17:33 |
| kmalloc | Hah, turns out, irccloud crashed my phone :P | 17:33 |
| kmalloc | Uninstall and reinstall all fixed. | 17:34 |
| gagehugo | hmm | 17:34 |
| kmalloc | mordred: now let me remember what I was going to ask you.... Ugh. | 17:36 |
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| kmalloc | Oh right, Mordred, the question doesn't really impact you because you're a consumer of other clouds. | 17:56 |
| kmalloc | Was going to ask about MFA and some.defaults for say a whole domain. | 17:57 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: I'll implement some logic this weekend around MFA rules and such for domains and get the resource-options for projects/domains/groups done so we have a place for that to live. | 17:58 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: do you see a benefit for resource options on app creds? | 17:59 |
| kmalloc | If so, since I'm adding the support code in other places, happy to do it there as well. | 17:59 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: i'm missing context | 18:01 |
| kmalloc | Like the pci-dss user options, do you see a value to support such things in app creds. | 18:02 |
| kmalloc | Not anything specific, but options for the app-creds that are fluid like that | 18:02 |
| kmalloc | I'm writing code to support it in other subsystems (resource) and can easily hit app-creds too if that would be of benefit | 18:03 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: maybe i've been out of it this week but i'm not understanding what this would be introducing | 18:07 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: but i see value in making everything consistent so go for it | 18:08 |
| kmalloc | Okie, I'll propose it, and we can discuss in review. | 18:08 |
| cmurphy | that will help | 18:10 |
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| ayoung | kmalloc, what do you think about these servers for a DIY cluster: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R610-Server-2x-2-53GHz-E5540-8-Cores-32GB-SAS6i-2x146G/191545700823?hash=item2c990371d7:g:rmQAAOSwvfZZ57~d | 18:14 |
| ayoung | supported CPU on RHEL 7 etc | 18:17 |
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| ayoung | But I bet they have no management controllers, which means no IPMI and thus can't work for Director | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Decouple bootstrap from cli module https://review.openstack.org/558903 | 18:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Introduce new TokenModel object https://review.openstack.org/559129 | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | ^ kmalloc ok - those should pass now | 18:41 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: hmmm | 19:01 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: thanks | 19:01 |
| lbragstad | yup | 19:01 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: Dell, should have idrac card compat | 19:02 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: at least. | 19:02 |
| kmalloc | But I'd go hp | 19:02 |
| mordred | lbragstad: re: one of your questions - I don't THINK we need specific docs on aliases ... the tl;dr is "you can now just use the official type regardless of what the deployer used" | 19:07 |
| mordred | but with a good dose of "it'll also do the right thing if you ignore this" | 19:07 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: but otherwise those aren't too bad. I personally would worry about the sas drives vs sata. Just so $$$ to replace. | 19:07 |
| mordred | what do you think? | 19:07 |
| lbragstad | mordred: ok | 19:08 |
| kmalloc | mordred: link to the aliases would be my recommendation, and just a simple page showing them (docs published) | 19:08 |
| kmalloc | But I'd be ok with that down the line. Not needed to land this now. | 19:08 |
| kmalloc | Heck, I'll even sign up to help make sure that is a thing. | 19:08 |
| mordred | kmalloc: ++ | 19:08 |
| mordred | kmalloc, lbragstad: also, replied to the other question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462218/4/keystoneauth1/access/service_catalog.py inline | 19:09 |
| * kmalloc tosses on the top of the TODO pile | 19:09 | |
| kmalloc | Ah, nice. | 19:09 |
| lbragstad | ok - so that's part of the service-types-authority api | 19:10 |
| kmalloc | Yeah | 19:10 |
| lbragstad | and we shouldn't have to worry about the sorting bit | 19:10 |
| kmalloc | Exactly, it should be ordered for us. | 19:10 |
| lbragstad | i saw it mentioned in the comment, but wasn't sure if that fell on our shoulders or not | 19:10 |
| kmalloc | Nah. Good thing too :) | 19:11 |
| mordred | yah - part of the api there (also, it should really never change because we should not add any new aliases - but you never know) | 19:11 |
| kmalloc | mordred: do we have a keystone/KSA/service-types cross gate? | 19:11 |
| mordred | kmalloc: oh - also - I made more patches for you | 19:11 |
| kmalloc | Cauuuuuseeeeee..... | 19:11 |
| mordred | kmalloc: we do not - that's a great idea | 19:11 |
| kmalloc | Yah. That is something we need. ASAP imo | 19:12 |
| kmalloc | Woo, more patches! | 19:12 |
| mordred | honestly - a cross-gate with service-types-authority and os-service-types and keystoneauth | 19:12 |
| * mordred can get that cranked out | 19:12 | |
| kmalloc | Yep. I'd prob run keystone under it too, just to avoid mocking and make sure keystone isnt doing stupid. | 19:12 |
| kmalloc | If you don't get to it, it's on my next week to poke at while I work on doc publish. | 19:13 |
| mordred | kmalloc: cmon. keystone never does stupid | 19:13 |
| * kmalloc looks around. Looks at keystone...looks at domains.... | 19:13 | |
| kmalloc | Yeah... Nevvvvvaaaarrrrr | 19:14 |
| kmalloc | ;) | 19:14 |
| mordred | hehe | 19:14 |
| kmalloc | Hmm... I should buy another couple xeon-d low power machines for a full OpenStack cluster... | 19:15 |
| kmalloc | (Brie might actually shove me in a hole and leave me there:p ;) | 19:16 |
| kmalloc | I want an ironic managed lab >.> | 19:16 |
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| kmalloc | mordred: totally unrelated, any advice on a good combo smoker/grill... I ... Need one for summertime things.. | 19:18 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: ^ you too, I'd ask dolphm, but you're both right here. | 19:19 |
| lbragstad | funny you ask... | 19:19 |
| lbragstad | i was just working on a comparison | 19:19 |
| * lbragstad digs | 19:19 | |
| lbragstad | https://github.com/lbragstad/kitchen/blob/master/smoker-comparison.md | 19:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Noyes proposed openstack/keystone master: [WIP] Enables MySQL Cluster support for Keystone https://review.openstack.org/431229 | 19:21 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: niiice | 19:29 |
| lbragstad | those were a couple models i was looking at | 19:29 |
| lbragstad | imo - if you're looking for efficiency and easy of use, go with a pellet grill | 19:30 |
| lbragstad | if you're looking to go old school, get an off set | 19:30 |
| lbragstad | or a kamado, but i was talking to dolph and his goes through a lot of charcoal | 19:31 |
| lbragstad | but you get higher cooking temperatures than you would on most pellet setups | 19:31 |
| lbragstad | so - mimicking wood-fired pizza would be easier | 19:31 |
| lbragstad | the down side is that it's hard to find a smoker that does it all | 19:32 |
| lbragstad | if you're into cooking from your bed, you can get a GMG which are wifi enabled and programmable | 19:32 |
| lbragstad | which seems interesting, but looking at a screen is the last thing i want to do when i'm cooking outside | 19:33 |
| * mordred is a fan of offset | 19:36 | |
| mordred | agrees about finding a smoker that does it all | 19:36 |
| lbragstad | it's literally impossible | 19:37 |
| mordred | for my next trick I'm planning a custom offset for smoking and then a weber for charcoal grilling | 19:37 |
| mordred | I currently have a cheap offset smoker that's also a charcoal grill - it's fine for smoking, but is a bit lame for the charcoaling | 19:37 |
| mordred | (in that I have to use WAY more charcoal to get the heat since the shape of the enclosure isn't really helping any) | 19:38 |
| lbragstad | can you open up the heat box? | 19:38 |
| lbragstad | some offsets come with grates above the fire box for direct heat | 19:38 |
| lbragstad | so you can grill and smoke at the same time, or use it as a hot plate https://github.com/lbragstad/kitchen/blob/master/smoker-comparison.md#yoder-cheyenne | 19:39 |
| mordred | lbragstad: I'm using this right now: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Char-Griller-Duo-Black-Dual-Function-Combo-Grill/1245537?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-SeasonalOutdoorLiving-_-Grills-_-1245537:Char-Griller&CAWELAID=&kpid=1245537&CAGPSPN=pla&store_code=2516&k_clickID=a2bb504e-60a1-4625-9f39-056f5bc1bc35&gclid=CjwKCAjwlIvXBRBjEiwATWAQItbnNvU9z0SWASwoL0XSqG95MqJuWmzg3qm-isXIjNGwoPoLGycmkxoCuY0QAvD_BwE | 19:40 |
| mordred | wow. terrible link, sorry | 19:40 |
| lbragstad | still got the job done | 19:40 |
| lbragstad | :) | 19:40 |
| mordred | it's mostly garbage. however - it turns out meat is VERY forgiving | 19:40 |
| mordred | and I've smoked many delicious things in it | 19:40 |
| lbragstad | nice | 19:41 |
| mordred | all full-log - none of this pellet or fan-assisted madness | 19:41 |
| lbragstad | old school ;) | 19:41 |
| mordred | fans are not needed- physics creates airflow for you just via the chimney effect | 19:41 |
| lbragstad | i've cooked on https://github.com/lbragstad/kitchen/blob/master/smoker-comparison.md#char-griller-acorn quite a bit (just a cheaper kamado) | 19:42 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:42 |
| lbragstad | combined with https://bbqguru.com/storenav?categoryid=1&productid=22 and you have a pretty sweet smoking setup | 19:42 |
| lbragstad | dolph uses ^ with a kamado joe and it works amazing, we did beef ribs on it at 225 and it was rock solid | 19:43 |
| lbragstad | the fan just controls airflow and is hooked up to a thermostat | 19:43 |
| lbragstad | it can keep temperature within a perfect range for smoking | 19:44 |
| lbragstad | i was impressed | 19:44 |
| mordred | yah - that's too much tech for me | 19:44 |
| * mordred make fire | 19:44 | |
| * mordred ungh | 19:44 | |
| mordred | lbragstad: http://www.bellfab.com/ <-- I'll be getting my next smoker from that guy | 19:44 |
| lbragstad | oh wow | 19:46 |
| lbragstad | that's a lot of cooking surface | 19:47 |
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| kmalloc | Oh yes, Weber for grilling | 20:29 |
| kmalloc | Damn that is a nice smoker! | 20:29 |
| kmalloc | mordred: I just want to be able to use the wine cask staves. :) | 20:30 |
| mordred | kmalloc: :) | 20:31 |
| mordred | kmalloc: so - what I've actually done with them is use them in conjunction with lump charcoal | 20:31 |
| mordred | in a two-zone setup using the barrel smoker as a charcoal grill | 20:31 |
| mordred | closing the lid for some indirect cooking/smoking - then shifting the meat over the coals/wood-fire for a finishing | 20:32 |
| mordred | lbragstad: yah - the thing I especially like about that guy too is that I can go custom - so that I can get the exit chimney out the side, etc | 20:33 |
| kmalloc | Oooh | 20:33 |
| kmalloc | Good to know! That sounds good. | 20:33 |
| mordred | kmalloc: yah - that way I can use like one per cook - get the smoke from it without having to, you know, use the whole box just to get a nice fire :) | 20:34 |
| kmalloc | Yes they get expensive otherwise | 20:34 |
| lbragstad | mordred: that's nice, i know yoder has a build your own process for offsets, so you can get the features you want | 20:34 |
| * lbragstad has 0 experience on an off set | 20:35 | |
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| lbragstad | mordred: how long does it take him to build one? | 20:37 |
| lbragstad | er... on average | 20:37 |
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| mordred | lbragstad: not sure yet - we're just in the initial stages of discussing - I'll let you know when I get a timeframe from him | 20:38 |
| * mordred wants to be able to get an entire half-pig on the cook surface - so it's not gonna be a small one | 20:38 | |
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| mordred | the transit is gonna be ... fun | 20:39 |
| lbragstad | nice | 20:39 |
| lbragstad | i was gonna ask - how do you plan on getting it home? ;) | 20:39 |
| lbragstad | free shipping? | 20:39 |
| mordred | I plan on driving a pickup truck up to oklahoma and hoping I can find enough people to help me get it off the truck and in to my yard once I'm back | 20:40 |
| lbragstad | offer bbq coupons | 20:40 |
| lbragstad | "redeemable for limit 1 (one) plate of bbq" | 20:41 |
| mordred | ++ | 20:44 |
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| ayoung | kmalloc, I think the lack of ipmi is going to be the killer for me after all. I want something that does full Tripleo. | 22:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP: re-use bootstrap in tests https://review.openstack.org/564905 | 22:42 |
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| kmalloc | ayoung: it is exactly why I went super micro and considered HP for lab boxes. | 23:13 |
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