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| mordred | lbragstad, morgan, cmurphy: you get a sec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486506 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486355 would be nice to get in | 01:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Added index.rst in each sub-directory https://review.openstack.org/484157 | 02:08 |
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| asettle | lbragstad: looking :) | 08:33 |
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| asettle | lbragstad: hopefully that should sort it | 08:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samriddhi proposed openstack/keystone master: Removed token-provider doc https://review.openstack.org/483276 | 11:39 |
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| samueldmq | morning! | 12:37 |
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| lbragstad | o/ | 12:48 |
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| prashkre | lbragstad: Hi Lance. Gud morning! | 12:53 |
| lbragstad | prashkre: morning! | 12:53 |
| prashkre | lbragstad: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485302/ | 12:53 |
| lbragstad | prashkre: i took a look at the release note | 12:53 |
| prashkre | thanks. I have fixed it. | 12:54 |
| lbragstad | prashkre: ah - looks like you fixed it | 12:54 |
| lbragstad | prashkre: i'll add it to my queue for today | 12:54 |
| prashkre | thank you. | 12:54 |
| lbragstad | thanks for the fix! | 12:55 |
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| samueldmq | gagehugo: o/ | 13:19 |
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| knikolla | o/ | 14:00 |
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| knikolla | @lbragstad: as expected it passed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485818/ | 14:16 |
| knikolla | confirms that it's an unrelated random failure | 14:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Kristi Nikolla proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove policy for self-service password changes https://review.openstack.org/485818 | 14:18 |
| knikolla | ^^ updated to remove the depends | 14:18 |
| knikolla | let's get it in | 14:18 |
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| gagehugo | samueldmq o/ | 14:55 |
| samueldmq | gagehugo: I have made a bunch of comments in the project tags patches :-) | 14:55 |
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| gagehugo | awesome | 14:55 |
| samueldmq | gagehugo: and -1s | 14:55 |
| gagehugo | will take a look | 14:56 |
| samueldmq | let me know if my comments arent clear enough. I will keep reviewing those | 14:56 |
| samueldmq | we need to get them in soon ;) | 14:56 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: what in the world... that's so weird | 14:58 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: i'm going to try and dig into that bug a little more during office hours today | 14:58 |
| gagehugo | definitely | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel de Medeiros Queiroz proposed openstack/keystone master: Move auth plugin development doc to contrib guide https://review.openstack.org/484168 | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel de Medeiros Queiroz proposed openstack/keystone master: Update docs: fernet is the default provider https://review.openstack.org/486608 | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Tin Lam proposed openstack/keystone master: Add database migration for project tags https://review.openstack.org/484456 | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Make discover._version_between more lenient https://review.openstack.org/485827 | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystonemiddleware master: Update comment about fetch token kwargs https://review.openstack.org/486184 | 16:06 |
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| lbragstad | rodrigods: quick question on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1672713 | 16:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1672713 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Dependency between subsystems at the DB layer" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Rodrigo Duarte (rodrigodsousa) | 16:42 |
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| lbragstad | knikolla: do you have any more information on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1700847 ? | 16:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1700847 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "tempest plugin tests are broken" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Kristi Nikolla (knikolla) | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP: Attempt caching list_projects_for_user https://review.openstack.org/487143 | 17:08 |
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| lbragstad | eandersson: around? thoughts on marking https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1703666 as invalid once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483514/ merges? | 17:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1703666 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Templated catalog does not handle multi-regions properly" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Erik Olof Gunnar Andersson (eandersson) | 17:13 |
| eandersson | lbragstad, I am ok with that - I mean I don't fully agree, but you guys are the experts, you know better :p | 17:16 |
| lbragstad | eandersson: i'm just thinking about the duplicate work :) | 17:17 |
| eandersson | Yea - makes sense | 17:17 |
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| lbragstad | eandersson: have you tested https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483514/ locally at all? | 17:19 |
| * lbragstad has that on his todo list | 17:19 | |
| knikolla | lbragstad: that'll be my main work item today | 17:19 |
| eandersson | Not yet, been on my todo list, but I'll do it it now | 17:19 |
| lbragstad | eandersson: ack - just curious | 17:20 |
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| jlvillal | morgan: Regarding deprecation warning I mentioned yesterday. I created a PR: https://github.com/morganfainberg/positional/pull/25 | 17:43 |
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| efried | Hey, if someone gets a chance - I'm trying to devstack and it's failing early with this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/616485/ | 18:51 |
| efried | Nothing has started yet, so I don't really have logs to look at (at least I don't think I do?) | 18:51 |
| knikolla | efried: can you check the keystone logs? | 18:52 |
| knikolla | should be able to get them through journalctl | 18:52 |
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| efried | knikolla What would that service be called? | 18:53 |
| knikolla | devstack@keystone | 18:53 |
| efried | Okay, swhat I thought it should be - but there's no such service. | 18:53 |
| efried | There's only devstack@dstat.service and devstack@etcd.service | 18:54 |
| knikolla | efried: weird. and yet it's trying to call the keystone api | 18:55 |
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| efried | knikolla ikr | 18:55 |
| efried | Maybe the keystone API totally failed to start | 18:56 |
| efried | but there still should have been a service registered, nah? | 18:56 |
| knikolla | efried: have you attempted unstacking and restacking? what does your local.conf look like | 18:56 |
| knikolla | yeah. there should have been a service there. | 18:56 |
| efried | knikolla Yeah, I tried unstack/restack; unstack/reboot/reclone/restack... | 18:56 |
| efried | Lemme get you my local.conf... | 18:57 |
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| efried | knikolla http://paste.openstack.org/show/616487/ | 18:58 |
| efried | knikolla FWIW, when I try to curl http://localhost/identity it gives me a generic 500. (Not sure if I'm curling right, though.) | 19:00 |
| efried | (and ^ is same with loopback IP or real IP) | 19:00 |
| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone-office-hours | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 25 19:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone_office_hours' | 19:00 |
| knikolla | efried: hmmm… not sure if mod_wsgi deploys it as a service | 19:00 |
| knikolla | the logs should be at /var/log/keystone/keystone.log or in a screen | 19:01 |
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| knikolla | efried: any particular reason you're deploying through mod_wsgi? | 19:02 |
| efried | uhm. Is that not what's supposed to be happening. | 19:02 |
| efried | ? | 19:02 |
| mordred | lbragstad, samueldmq, morgan can I sell any of you on a +A for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486506 and its friend https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486355 ? | 19:03 |
| efried | I'm using the local.conf from our (PowerVM) CI. Can't claim to understand everything that's in there. | 19:03 |
| knikolla | efried: it's deprecated. the default deployment method is uwsgi now. | 19:03 |
| * mordred has a lovely chocolate mousse to offer ... | 19:03 | |
| efried | Lemme ask my CI guy why we're doing that... | 19:04 |
| lbragstad | mordred: yeah - i should be able to give it a review a little later (unless someone else gets to it first) | 19:04 |
| mordred | efried: might just be old and not updated yet | 19:05 |
| efried | He says we couldn't get it working right away, and other things have been higher priority since then. | 19:05 |
| mordred | lbragstad: woot - thanks! once that exists I have patches for os-client-config to actually, you know, use it! :) | 19:05 |
| knikolla | efried: mordred: i see a comment on the local.conf referring to mod_wsgi being deprecated, so it's recent enough. | 19:05 |
| mordred | nod | 19:06 |
| knikolla | but most values there are pretty outdated. neutron is enabled by defaul now. for example. | 19:06 |
| samueldmq | mordred: what is that useful for? | 19:06 |
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| samueldmq | get_current_versioned_data | 19:06 |
| samueldmq | I looked at it earlier today, but I assume I got a bit lost in the difference from get_versioned_data | 19:06 |
| mordred | samueldmq: if youhave done get_endpoint_data and have an EndpointData object and now you want to find microversion info (or other metadata) on the endpoint described by that EndpointData | 19:07 |
| mordred | samueldmq: get_versioned_data takes the versions you want to look for as arguments | 19:07 |
| samueldmq | mordred: and where is the last EndpointData stored in the meantiem | 19:07 |
| samueldmq | ? | 19:07 |
| mordred | samueldmq: consuming code | 19:08 |
| mordred | samueldmq: lemme show a consumption patch | 19:08 |
| * efried trying with uwsgi... | 19:08 | |
| samueldmq | mordred: why is it not passed to that function as an argument then? | 19:08 |
| samueldmq | mordred: kk that should ease the understandinig | 19:08 |
| samueldmq | so many typos ... sorry | 19:09 |
| mordred | samueldmq: OH - so I can explain that onemaybe easier | 19:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Add policy for project tags https://review.openstack.org/486757 | 19:09 |
| mordred | samueldmq: user says "endpoint_data = session.get_endpoint_data(service_type='block-storage')" - no version argument is given, because the user just wants whatever is in the catalog | 19:10 |
| * samueldmq nods | 19:10 | |
| mordred | samueldmq: then, at a later point in the program, the user needs some microversion info - they still don't have a version range they are interested - they just want the info for the thing they've got | 19:10 |
| mordred | samueldmq: so without get_current_versioned_data they'd need to do: | 19:11 |
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| mordred | samueldmq: get_versioned_data(endpoint_data.api_version, (endpoint_data.api_version[0], 'latest')) | 19:11 |
| mordred | which is just awkward :) | 19:12 |
| samueldmq | hmm what would endpoint_data.api_version look like? | 19:12 |
| mordred | it's a version tuple - so (3, 0) or (2, 0) | 19:13 |
| samueldmq | is that the version the user wants? | 19:13 |
| mordred | I meanm, I supose the user could actually also just do "get_versioned_data(endpoint_data.api_version, endpoint_data.api_version) | 19:13 |
| samueldmq | the second argument is min/max, that's clear | 19:13 |
| mordred | samueldmq: api_version is the version that was found for the endpoint in question | 19:14 |
| mordred | so if EndpointData is data about an endpoint, EndpointData.api_version is the major api versino of that endpoint | 19:14 |
| samueldmq | mordred: and what's the difference of the endpoint_data the user already has and the result of get_versioned_data(endpoint_data.api_version, endpoint_data.api_version) | 19:15 |
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| morgan | mordred: as soon as I am home from lunch. | 19:17 |
| mordred | samueldmq: microversoin information - the initial endpoint_data may not have it if doing the fetch of the version discovery document was not needed to satisfy the initial request | 19:17 |
| mordred | samueldmq: we try to avoid such a GET if we can so that we don't fetch when it's not needed | 19:17 |
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| samueldmq | mordred: kk. I've got a comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486506 | 19:23 |
| samueldmq | a question | 19:23 |
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| mordred | awesome | 19:26 |
| mordred | thanks! | 19:26 |
| samueldmq | mordred: nvm me, I confused normalize_version_number with _normalize_version_args | 19:26 |
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| mordred | samueldmq::) - I was just saying that :) | 19:29 |
| samueldmq | mordred: :) do you have an example using that? | 19:30 |
| samueldmq | you mentioned earlier you have some code .. | 19:30 |
| mordred | oh - right - I thought I did, but now I can't find it - I'm going to blame jetlag | 19:31 |
| * mordred keeps looking | 19:32 | |
| samueldmq | mordred: hmm.. so get_current_versioned_data is what will trigger the min and max microversion values to be set, right? | 19:33 |
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| samueldmq | in the endpointdata itself | 19:33 |
| mordred | samueldmq: well, it will return a new EndpointData with those filled in - but yes, exactly | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Add new tags attribute to project https://review.openstack.org/470317 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Add JSON schema validation for project tags https://review.openstack.org/484483 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Add database migration for project tags https://review.openstack.org/484456 | 19:34 |
| samueldmq | mordred: kk yes, as get_endpoint_data fills in another endpointdata based in the current one | 19:34 |
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| mordred | ++ | 19:37 |
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| efried | mordred Was this what you were looking for? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485868/1 | 19:39 |
| efried | knikolla et al, uwsgi didn't help, same result. | 19:40 |
| mordred | efried: yes! I knew I'd written code somewhere ... thanks! | 19:40 |
| samueldmq | mordred: that will also cause the latest minor version ot be discovered, right? | 19:40 |
| mordred | samueldmq: ^^ | 19:40 |
| efried | aha!, but now I have a journalctl for it! | 19:40 |
| samueldmq | mordred: like if the endpointdata has (3,0), min will be (3,0) and max will be (3,latest) in the re-discovery | 19:40 |
| efried | It's paste. Stupid paste. Thanks for the help knikolla | 19:41 |
| mordred | samueldmq: yah - there isn't actually much story around multiple parallel major versions with different minor versions | 19:41 |
| knikolla | efried: anytime. if all you need is a basic devstack with the usual services, the samples/local.conf is usually good enough for me, without any changes. | 19:42 |
| efried | knikolla My victim is PowerVM, where nothing is that simple :) | 19:42 |
| knikolla | efried: good luck! | 19:42 |
| mordred | samueldmq: it's written like (3,0), (3,latest) because the api_version in endpoint_data is probably inferred from the url, so if we just did "(3, 0), (3, 0)" it might actually fail because the actual version of the endpoint might be 3.4 | 19:43 |
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| mordred | samueldmq: but there will only be the one v3 endpoint | 19:43 |
| samueldmq | mordred: ah that's smart | 19:44 |
| samueldmq | so we can infer a range from what we got from the url | 19:45 |
| samueldmq | and get what we want/need from catalog (3.4 in that example) | 19:45 |
| mordred | yes! exactly | 19:45 |
| samueldmq | mordred: approved. sorry for the mess and dumb questions :-) | 19:46 |
| mordred | samueldmq: no - those are great questions! thanks for the review | 19:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Move auth plugin development doc to contrib guide https://review.openstack.org/484168 | 19:57 |
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| knikolla | rodrigods: around? | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kristi Nikolla proposed openstack/keystone master: In the devstack plugin, restart keystone after modifying conf https://review.openstack.org/487202 | 20:35 |
| knikolla | one bug down, hopefully | 20:36 |
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| lbragstad | knikolla: nice - i assume we'll be able to see the tempest plugin tests pass? | 20:37 |
| lbragstad | if it works | 20:38 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: i wasn't able to test it. but based on the log files, the diagnosis is very plausible. | 20:38 |
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| knikolla | lbragstad: i still need to move the tests to using a local shibboleth rather than testshib. but i think i will have to prioritize getting k2k functional testing up before that. | 20:40 |
| lbragstad | yeah - that makes sense | 20:40 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: already have a patch up for keystone-as-an-idp in the plugin. and i'm fairly familiar with multinode devstack configuration, if that's the route we want to go for it. | 20:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Add tests to specifically test trailing slash behavior https://review.openstack.org/486355 | 21:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Record the discovered major api version https://review.openstack.org/486506 | 21:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Emit deprecation warning for federated domain/project APIs https://review.openstack.org/487219 | 21:21 |
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| rodrigods | knikolla, now i am | 21:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samriddhi proposed openstack/keystone master: Removed token-provider doc https://review.openstack.org/483276 | 21:44 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://goo.gl/9vuCjS | 21:45 |
| lbragstad | ^ link to all bugs targeted to pike-rc1 | 21:45 |
| *** lbragstad changes topic to "Pike release schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | Meeting agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | Bugs that need triaging: http://bit.ly/2iJuN1h | Pike RC-1 bugs: https://goo.gl/9vuCjS" | 21:46 | |
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| breton | why have we chosen to use the expand-migrate-contract procedure instead of nova's versionedobjects? | 21:48 |
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| lbragstad | breton: the reasoning, at least from what I remember of that conversation, was because keystone doesn't really have a layer that sits in between the app and the database | 21:53 |
| lbragstad | breton: all nova-apis or nova-compute nodes talk to nova-conductor to get things from the database | 21:54 |
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| lbragstad | which it nice in some ways because it allows you to make nova-conductor smart enough to handle representing objects in specific ways depending on the backend | 21:55 |
| lbragstad | but for keystone - if you scale it out horizontally, each node can make requests directly to the data store | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Consolidate certificate docs to admin-guide https://review.openstack.org/477685 | 22:04 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 22:04 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 25 22:04:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone_office_hours/2017/keystone_office_hours.2017-07-25-19.00.html | 22:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone_office_hours/2017/keystone_office_hours.2017-07-25-19.00.txt | 22:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone_office_hours/2017/keystone_office_hours.2017-07-25-19.00.log.html | 22:04 |
| breton | lbragstad: so basically keystone acts as nova-conductor. Why couldn't we ignore the fact that there is no RPC and treat function calls as RPC? | 22:05 |
| * breton read logs from Aug 24 2016 and things became semi-clear | 22:06 | |
| lbragstad | breton: so what part would do the object translation? | 22:07 |
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| breton | lbragstad: backends probably | 22:15 |
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| breton | so triggers let us not shutdown keystone during an upgrade | 22:21 |
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| breton | what lets nova keep nova-conductor up? | 22:22 |
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| breton | also, why did we chose not to use additive-only migrations? Like in http://www.danplanet.com/blog/2015/10/07/upgrades-in-nova-database-migrations/ | 22:28 |
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| lbragstad | breton: you can shut keystone down during an upgrade | 22:41 |
| lbragstad | breton: you don't have to do a rolling upgrade or online upgrade | 22:41 |
| breton | lbragstad: i understand that. I don't have anything against existing approach, just trying to understand why we made this part different from Nova or other folks | 22:48 |
| breton | for now i've found that we cannot run migrations several times idempotently | 22:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaewoo Park proposed openstack/keystone master: Add new tags attribute to project https://review.openstack.org/470317 | 22:55 |
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| morgan | breton: nova uses in-app logic | 23:02 |
| morgan | new always reads old/new locations and writes to both | 23:02 |
| morgan | old writes to old | 23:03 |
| morgan | old reads old | 23:03 |
| morgan | it is significantly less painful than triggers and is less likely to break in hard-to-diagnose ways | 23:03 |
| morgan | triggers are a terrible idea | 23:03 |
| morgan | we could have solved this 100% in app logic | 23:04 |
| breton | morgan: how do they handle cases with new Fks and things that are required to be not null? And how do they perform the "contract" phase? | 23:04 |
| morgan | not sure on fks | 23:05 |
| morgan | contract is done only after everything has been migrated and potentially in a down-time window | 23:05 |
| morgan | where tables can be mangled | 23:05 |
| morgan | and locked | 23:05 |
| morgan | i am assuming fks are done in a data-migrate step or similar. remember, this is only additive in the expand phase | 23:06 |
| morgan | new fks shouldn't be in use until data is written to them | 23:06 |
| morgan | and you can't convert a column to be an FK with rolling / no-downtime upgrades | 23:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jaewoo Park proposed openstack/keystone master: Add new tags attribute to project https://review.openstack.org/470317 | 23:07 |
| breton | why haven't we -2ed triggers then? :) | 23:08 |
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| morgan | because i lost the argument and i basically just re-iterate triggers are needless work (in-app logic works against any db that keystone can write to cleanly) to support. | 23:11 |
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| morgan | someone else wanted triggers, and i have no idea why really | 23:11 |
| morgan | they are just awful to use for this type of use-case. | 23:11 |
| morgan | ftr, i simply wont ever write code that includes a trigger for keystone. | 23:11 |
| morgan | i also mostly don't review those patches. | 23:12 |
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