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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed x/kayobe master: Support arbitrarily named Docker drivers https://review.opendev.org/658806 | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed x/kayobe master: WIP: Switch default docker storage driver to overlay2 https://review.opendev.org/658815 | 13:33 |
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| mgoddard | #startmeeting kayobe | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 13 14:01:35 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kayobe' | 14:01 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:01 | |
| mgoddard | Hello o/ | 14:01 |
| priteau | Hi \o | 14:02 |
| mgoddard | dougsz? | 14:03 |
| dougsz | hey there | 14:04 |
| radeks | hi there \o | 14:04 |
| mgoddard | hi radeks :) | 14:04 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:04 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | * Review actions from last meeting | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | * Kayobe whiteboard https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-whiteboard | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | * Discussion | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | ** Stein release planning https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-stein-release | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | ** Train summit summary | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | ** Kayobe seeking official status | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | ** Github repo mirroring | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | ** Bug review & squash | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | * Open Discussion | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | No announcements today, unless someone has any | 14:05 |
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| jovial[m] | hi | 14:06 |
| mgoddard | hi jovial[m] | 14:06 |
| jovial[m] | have we started? | 14:07 |
| mgoddard | yeah | 14:07 |
| mgoddard | Also no action items to review | 14:07 |
| mgoddard | #topic Kayobe dashboard | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kayobe dashboard (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:07 | |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-whiteboard | 14:07 |
| mgoddard | s/dashboard/whiteboard/ | 14:07 |
| mgoddard | We have a CI failure on master currently in the seed upgrade job | 14:08 |
| mgoddard | It appears to be something to do with mariadb in bifrost | 14:08 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m]: has kindly offered to look into it | 14:08 |
| mgoddard | #action jovial[m] to investigate seed upgrade job failure | 14:08 |
| mgoddard | moving onto review priorities | 14:09 |
| jovial[m] | I wish there was an easy way to run a zuul playbook to recreate :( | 14:09 |
| jovial[m] | does everyone else just run the stuff manually? or am I doing something wrong? | 14:09 |
| radeks | the same question here | 14:10 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m]: there aren't too many commands to run thanks to the scripts in dev/ | 14:10 |
| mgoddard | I believe the zuul team are adding that feature | 14:10 |
| mgoddard | upgrades are a bit more challenging to run | 14:11 |
| jovial[m] | Ok, I will proceed manually and eagerly await that feature :) | 14:11 |
| mgoddard | it's a good opportunity to get to know what the CI tests are doing :) | 14:11 |
| mgoddard | #topic Stein release | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein release (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:14 | |
| mgoddard | IIRC there was a problem with bifrost last time I looked at this | 14:15 |
| mgoddard | It needs a bit of time spent to work out what's going on. Hopefully otherwise it's close | 14:15 |
| mgoddard | We have a few patches open now, I guess we need to decide what makes the release soon | 14:16 |
| jovial[m] | always the bifrost ;-) | 14:16 |
| mgoddard | yeah :( | 14:16 |
| priteau | I am afraid I haven't had time to look again at my Cumulus patch :( | 14:17 |
| mgoddard | Hopefully there will be time before release | 14:17 |
| mgoddard | #topic Train summit summary | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Train summit summary (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:18 | |
| mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/005924.html | 14:18 |
| mgoddard | I sent that to the list | 14:18 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-19-kayobe-feedback-roadmap | 14:18 |
| mgoddard | that's the Etherpad from the feedback session | 14:18 |
| mgoddard | we had quite a few people involved, and the main concerns seemed to be around documentation | 14:19 |
| priteau | Nice to see Cody was there | 14:19 |
| mgoddard | I think at that stage of the summit I was a little fried, so perhaps didn't get the most out of the crowd | 14:20 |
| mgoddard | still, some good points in there | 14:20 |
| mgoddard | The workshop went well, and the room was packed | 14:20 |
| mgoddard | Some familiar faces, and some new | 14:21 |
| mgoddard | Hopefully we planted a seed for some people | 14:21 |
| mgoddard | (pun not intended) | 14:21 |
| mgoddard | Any questions? | 14:21 |
| mgoddard | #topic Kayobe seeking official status | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kayobe seeking official status (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:22 | |
| mgoddard | I think its time for us as a project to seek official status | 14:23 |
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| mgoddard | we're pretty stable, and have a good user base | 14:23 |
| mgoddard | there are a few options | 14:23 |
| mgoddard | 1. a new deliverable of the kolla project | 14:23 |
| mgoddard | 2. an official OpenStack project | 14:24 |
| mgoddard | 3. a top level OpenStack foundation project | 14:24 |
| mgoddard | the first requires buy in from the kolla team | 14:24 |
| priteau | The third option, is this like Airship? | 14:24 |
| mgoddard | priteau: yes | 14:25 |
| mgoddard | it's not clear to me that there's enough overlap with kolla contributors right now for 1., but we could propose it | 14:25 |
| mgoddard | 2 vs 3 would probably be a question for OpenStack TC/board folk | 14:26 |
| priteau | The 2nd option is well documented. Not sure how people end up in the 3rd. | 14:26 |
| mgoddard | we're fairly tied to OpenStack right now, so it seems a logical association | 14:26 |
| dougsz | I suppose 1. might be awkward for the potential OSA support that was hinted at | 14:26 |
| jovial[m] | OSA? | 14:27 |
| mgoddard | 1 is easiest - kolla team votes, similar to Tenks | 14:27 |
| dougsz | (if it ever gets implemented) | 14:27 |
| dougsz | OpenStack Ansible | 14:27 |
| mgoddard | dougsz: its a fair point. It was just an idea but might be worth keeping in mind | 14:27 |
| mgoddard | it didn't have any immediate interest so probably won't happen right now | 14:28 |
| dougsz | Personally, it would be nice to remove some of the boiler plate with closer integration of Kayobe with KA | 14:28 |
| mgoddard | dougsz: got an example? | 14:29 |
| jovial[m] | the double templating? | 14:29 |
| dougsz | Inventory files, config | 14:29 |
| dougsz | yeah | 14:29 |
| mgoddard | would be nice | 14:30 |
| mgoddard | I think there will always be those who want a separate kolla-ansible though | 14:30 |
| dougsz | Agreed | 14:30 |
| mgoddard | we could consider other ways of adding kayobe's config knowledge into a more vanilla kolla config | 14:31 |
| mgoddard | ideas on a postcard please | 14:32 |
| dougsz | :) | 14:32 |
| mgoddard | I think we've drifted a bit. Good topic though | 14:32 |
| mgoddard | #topic Github mirroring | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Github mirroring (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:32 | |
| mgoddard | Github mirroring to https://github.com/openstack/kayobe was broken by the switch to opendev, since kayobe is now x/kayobe | 14:33 |
| mgoddard | this means we have a stale mirror | 14:33 |
| mgoddard | and it will only get more stale | 14:33 |
| jovial[m] | kill with fire? | 14:33 |
| mgoddard | Infra offer to archive the repo, although I assume you'd still be able to clone it so that might not help that much | 14:34 |
| mgoddard | They can also move it to another org, e.g. kayobe/kayobe | 14:34 |
| mgoddard | I've hesitated with this due to the official project bid, which could move us back to openstack/kayobe :) | 14:34 |
| jovial[m] | do you own the kayobe namespace? | 14:35 |
| mgoddard | nope | 14:35 |
| priteau | It could take a while to become official, IIRC there's a discussion with the TC which could take time to schedule. | 14:35 |
| mgoddard | apparently someone else does | 14:35 |
| mgoddard | https://github.com/kayobe | 14:35 |
| jovial[m] | if they haven't used it in ages you can ask github to transfer it | 14:35 |
| jovial[m] | maybe we can even keep the logo ;-) | 14:36 |
| priteau | Joined GitHub on May 23, 2017 | 14:36 |
| mgoddard | lol | 14:36 |
| priteau | No public activity since | 14:36 |
| mgoddard | what should we do? | 14:37 |
| mgoddard | we have updated docs to use opendev | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | for reference on the TC discussions: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/new-projects-requirements.html | 14:37 |
| priteau | https://github.community/t5/How-to-use-Git-and-GitHub/Taking-the-name-of-an-old-unused-account/m-p/2485#M801 | 14:37 |
| priteau | mgoddard: I think it's worth asking GitHub about the kayobe username. It might not take long and then people who want to use GitHub will still be able to do so. | 14:38 |
| priteau | Until we move back to openstack/kayobe if the official project process is successful | 14:39 |
| jovial[m] | how would we keep the mirror in sync? | 14:39 |
| mgoddard | priteau: true. There's probably a bit of work in setting up a mirror sync job | 14:39 |
| mgoddard | hopefully openstack/kayobe would redirect to kayobe/kayobe, and then support removing the redirection | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | FWIW, there seemed to be lots of folks saying, I want kolla but I wish it did the base install the triple-o can | 14:40 |
| mgoddard | I think that's a good argument for being part of kolla | 14:40 |
| jovial[m] | if you move a repository on github the old link redirects to the new one - so, does that mean github.com/openstack/kayobe would still work? | 14:40 |
| mgoddard | we have the PTG on 28th & 29th May, I'm going to bring it up then | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | I wonder if its worth having a vote, noting that the failure means you consider being a top level openstack project under the TC? | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 14:41 |
| mgoddard | johnthetubaguy: vote on what, and by who? | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops, I meant kolla core voting on kayboe joining kolla, a bit like tenks | 14:42 |
| mgoddard | right, thats what we would have to do. Want to test the water first though | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | makes sense | 14:44 |
| mgoddard | I'm getting the impression people think we should try to grab the kayobe org, is that right? | 14:45 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard to enquire about kayobe org on github | 14:46 |
| mgoddard | #topic Bug review & squash | 14:46 |
| jovial[m] | I quite like our slick new x/kayobe branding | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug review & squash (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:46 | |
| mgoddard | I was thinking we ought to have a bug review & squash session | 14:47 |
| mgoddard | perhaps an hour or two to review open bugs, then some more time spent on sharing some out and squashing them | 14:47 |
| mgoddard | any takers? | 14:47 |
| mgoddard | just me then :) | 14:48 |
| jovial[m] | I'll be up for squashing some :D | 14:48 |
| priteau | Sounds like a good idea, at least making sure all the bugs on Storyboard are still valid | 14:48 |
| mgoddard | yeah | 14:49 |
| mgoddard | it's not the most exciting job, but it is important | 14:49 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard to schedule bug review and squash session | 14:50 |
| mgoddard | #topic open discussion | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:50 | |
| mgoddard | Anyone have anything? | 14:50 |
| mgoddard | kayobe-seed-upgrade-centos http://logs.openstack.org/06/658806/1/check/kayobe-seed-upgrade-centos/01a3739/ : SUCCESS in 1h 01m 34s | 14:50 |
| mgoddard | Either the seed upgrade job is just flakey, or it is now fixed... | 14:50 |
| mgoddard | Thanks for attending everyone | 14:52 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deployment of containerised OpenStack to bare metal | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kayobe" | 14:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 13 14:52:14 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kayobe/2019/kayobe.2019-05-13-14.01.html | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kayobe/2019/kayobe.2019-05-13-14.01.txt | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kayobe/2019/kayobe.2019-05-13-14.01.log.html | 14:52 |
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| jovial[m] | so I think you are right about the seed job having fixed itself, but it now looks like we have an issue with tenks' wait_for_resources.py: `exceeded retry limit of 15 whilst waiting for resources to become available` - seen that twice now | 16:47 |
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| mgoddard | looks like the seed upgrade job is working again, but Tenks is now failing while waiting for resources in placement :/ | 17:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged x/kayobe stable/rocky: Prevent use of KVM for Tenks VMs in CI https://review.opendev.org/648820 | 20:37 |
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