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| MuggenHor | Hi | 14:52 |
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| MuggenHor | I'm trying to use the skip-notifications-trait Jenkins plugin by adding a raw XML snippet | 14:52 |
| MuggenHor | But it seems that raw XML snippets at the branch source level get ignored | 14:52 |
| MuggenHor | So I went ahead and just added direct support instead. But how do I go about creating a PR? | 14:53 |
| MuggenHor | I read some stuff about a contributor agreement, etc. | 14:53 |
| zxiiro | MuggenHor: I forget the process exactly but you need to create an Ubuntu One account which is used to authenticate against review.opendev.org once you have the account and logged into Gerrit, I believe it will ask you to agree to a contributor agreement. Once you do that you will be able to push a patch to the jjb/jenkins-job-builder project in Gerrit. | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Giel van Schijndel proposed jjb/jenkins-job-builder master: feat: support the skip-notifications-trait plugin for git repos https://review.opendev.org/752270 | 16:03 |
| MuggenHor | It seems I've succeeded at creating a change request :-) | 16:03 |
| MuggenHor | Thanks for your pointer zxiiro | 16:04 |
| zxiiro | MuggenHor: np, I've just reviewed it. The typical workflow here is we wait for 2 people to review before merging but if no one get's to it before I produce the next release I will just merge it before releasing. | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged jjb/jenkins-job-builder master: Updated ext-email support https://review.opendev.org/749071 | 16:22 |
| zxiiro | MuggenHor: looks like your patch failed the linter. If you run `pre-commit run --all-files` locally it should automatically resolve the lint issue and you can `git commit --amend` to update your patch with whatever pre-commit fixed and resubmit. | 16:51 |
| zxiiro | MuggenHor: some instructions on how to get pre-commit installed if you need it https://pre-commit.com/#install | 16:53 |
| zxiiro | or I can update your patch too if you don't want to mess with pre-commit. Let me know. | 16:54 |
| MuggenHor | Yes, I just noticed it. Seems I missed it in tox's output | 16:55 |
| MuggenHor | I switched to my laptop (with a more recent Python installation) and just fixed it | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Giel van Schijndel proposed jjb/jenkins-job-builder master: feat: support the skip-notifications-trait plugin for git repos https://review.opendev.org/752270 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Giel van Schijndel proposed jjb/jenkins-job-builder master: feat: add support for specifying the git user's identity https://review.opendev.org/752277 | 16:58 |
| MuggenHor | Those now fully pass tox with 'tox' and 'tox -e py38' (I don't have any of the Python versions from tox.ini's envlist) | 17:01 |
| zxiiro | MuggenHor: great, thanks. I'll review now. | 17:27 |
| MuggenHor | thanks | 17:42 |
| MuggenHor | zxiiro: on what kind of schedule do you creat new releases? | 17:42 |
| zxiiro | MuggenHor: no schedule. I do it whenever I feel it's been awhile since the last one (we're probably due for one soon actually) or someone pokes me because they really need a release. | 17:51 |
| zxiiro | JJB these days doesn't have the same level of activity it used to. | 17:51 |
| MuggenHor | Guess people don't like Jenkins as much as they used to? | 19:13 |
| MuggenHor | Or switching to different ways for automatically configuring it? | 19:13 |
| MuggenHor | At work there's a bunch of people using a combination of Ansible plus custom written Groovy for configuration | 19:14 |
| Odd_Bloke | I think Jenkinsfile support and pipelines made some of the simpler/smaller JJB use cases easier (or possible, at least) to do in Jenkins itself. | 19:21 |
| Odd_Bloke | And OpenStack stopped using Jenkins as the backend to their CI, IIRC? | 19:23 |
| Odd_Bloke | Plus hosted CI too, I guess. | 19:23 |
| MuggenHor | I guess the hosted CI might have the biggest impact | 19:26 |
| MuggenHor | But it's kind of the new vendor lock in | 19:27 |
| MuggenHor | So I don't really like it myself | 19:27 |
| Odd_Bloke | Yeah, I'm wary of using it for anything more than just CI; if it's just running `tox -e $TOXENV` in a container for me, then the lock-in isn't too drastic whereas if it's (e.g.) deploying my webapp for me then it's substantially harder to migrate away. | 19:35 |
| Odd_Bloke | (Of course, it's very easy for me to hold that position because I don't have any such webapps. ;) | 19:35 |
| MuggenHor | Sure, but it's usually the nice GUI integrations for custom checkers that require a lot of effort | 19:48 |
| MuggenHor | E.g. github's "actions" and "apps" | 19:48 |
| Odd_Bloke | Oh sure, for custom checkers, but in terms of vendor lock-in, there will always be multiple CI platforms that have already done that for you. | 20:04 |
| Odd_Bloke | So use one until they inevitably destroy themselves because they're VC-backed, then move onto the next one. :p | 20:05 |
| Odd_Bloke | But yeah, I agree that the integration required makes it harder to bring your own CI solution, absolutely. | 20:05 |
| MuggenHor | Hmm, except that github is MS-backed so isn't likely to destroy themselves anytime soon | 20:07 |
| MuggenHor | And we have the misfortunate at my work of having a former MS employee as the lead manager for CI & devops | 20:08 |
| MuggenHor | It's fun though, having conference calls with MS telling them that they miss this or that feature. Having them reply with "but Jenkins doesn't have that either", then replying to that with "it does with this plugin and 10 lines of groovy"... :-P | 20:10 |
| Odd_Bloke | But you don't have to use GH actions, you can use Travis/Circle/etc. | 20:11 |
| Odd_Bloke | (Though them forcing all of those into a single pane of glass view within GitHub _is_ clearly the extend phase of this round of EEE.) | 20:11 |
| MuggenHor | Technically that's true, and for private and open source stuff I do that instead of GH actions | 20:12 |
| MuggenHor | Having a MS-happy VP though policy is "MS + GitHub is the solution -> now find the problem it solves" | 20:13 |
| MuggenHor | anyway, I'm off to bed | 20:19 |
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