| opendevreview | Steve Baker proposed openstack/sushy-tools master: Add SecureBoot support to the emulator, all drivers https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/sushy-tools/+/842266 | 02:55 |
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| opendevreview | Steve Baker proposed openstack/sushy-tools master: Use libvirt automatic firmware for UEFI boot mode https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/sushy-tools/+/841653 | 02:55 |
| opendevreview | Steve Baker proposed openstack/sushy-tools master: Implement set_secure_boot for libvirt driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/sushy-tools/+/843557 | 02:55 |
| opendevreview | Steve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch to q35 machine type for test nodes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/843558 | 03:05 |
| opendevreview | Steve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Use libvirt automatic firmware https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/843560 | 03:29 |
| opendevreview | Steve Baker proposed openstack/bifrost master: Use automatic firmware detection for test nodes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/843566 | 04:29 |
| kamlesh6808c | Good morning Ironic ! | 06:29 |
| jm1 | dtantsur: o/ you may want to use aoc's stable/1.0.0 branch in bifrost's stable/yoga branches? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collections-openstack/+/843569 | 09:13 |
| opendevreview | Ameya Raut proposed openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin master: Add idrac OOB inspection test cases https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin/+/843590 | 09:58 |
| iurygregory | good morning Ironic | 10:47 |
| iurygregory | jm1, dtantsur is on PTO today | 10:47 |
| jm1 | iurygregory: ok, thanks! | 10:49 |
| jaychetty | Hello, What's the minimum hardware requirement for a compute node to enable ironic? is BMC a must? | 16:50 |
| TheJulia | jaychetty: a compute node as in baremetal to be deployed? or a compute node as in something to run the nova-compute service and sync with ironic/handle orchustration from Nova's Point of View | 16:51 |
| jaychetty | I'm noob to OpenStack so please bare with me. A compute node as in baremetal to be deployed is what I think I'm looking for. let me ask the question in a different way | 16:55 |
| TheJulia | That is what I thought, but I wanted to make sure | 16:56 |
| TheJulia | generally, a BMC is recommended for out of band management, but people use SNMP power strips | 16:56 |
| jaychetty | I'm planning to add client and edge devices as nodes that users can request, these are not servers and so they don't have BMC. Will ironic work with such nodes? | 16:57 |
| TheJulia | That snmp power strip territy is becoming more treacherous with UEFI and OSes asserting new boot defaults | 16:57 |
| TheJulia | jaychetty: can they network boot? Is there a means of power control? | 16:57 |
| TheJulia | Minimum requirements are really what is required to run the ramdisk. Upstream we run a super small ramdisk, but generally we recommend a full ramdisk based on ubuntu or centos. If your just bios booting, ~1.5G of ram, if your UEFI booting ~2.5G of ram minimum | 16:59 |
| jaychetty | some can network book and we can add PDUs for power control | 16:59 |
| TheJulia | yeah, then that is doable | 16:59 |
| TheJulia | NobodyCam: you should start a "no-bmc working group" | 16:59 |
| TheJulia | for the record, the lowest end spec thing I've ever deployed with ironic is individual blade cards in a first generation HP Moonshot | 17:00 |
| TheJulia | and that worked like a champ | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/admin/drivers/snmp.html | 17:01 |
| jaychetty | TheJulia: Thank you for the link, I was going to ask just that. | 17:02 |
| TheJulia | NobodyCam and some of his coworkers which may or may not be on long weekends right now... use a lot of the snmp power driver stuff | 17:03 |
| TheJulia | NobodyCam: which reminds me... I need to follow-up on that driver addition | 17:03 |
| TheJulia | jaychetty: if you have any questions, feel free to ask. It is friday, and a huge portion of our contributors are in the EU | 17:10 |
| TheJulia | I, in the mean time, am likely going to go lay down because I'm not feeling good, but I'll try to respond to any questions later. | 17:11 |
| jaychetty | TheJulia: Thank you very much. This channel is awesome! | 17:16 |
| jaychetty | I need to research on ramdisk, SNMP, power control(PDUs) and how all of these can work with ironic. | 17:34 |
| ashinclouds[m] | Our admin documentation should provide clarity on a lot of that. | 17:35 |
| jaychetty | ashinclouds: I'll check it out, thank you | 17:38 |
| sschmitt_ | I actually have an SNMP related question: we're trying to use that method with a PDU from a company called "Server Tech" (generic I know), which is build for three phase power. This means each outlet has a prefix for what two phases its on. There are essentially three banks of 16 outles with IDs of "AA2" or "AB15" etc. On the SNMP side for controlling them, this means that a given outlet need a three digit index. I think we could | 18:07 |
| sschmitt_ | write a driver for it, but it seems like the outlet ID validation outside of the specific driver might still pose a problem since its enforcing a single int for the outlet. Any thoughts on getting around that? | 18:07 |
| TheJulia | sshnaidm: no thoughts offhand... Hm... three phase needed per node, or 208 on two switches? or... well | 19:08 |
| TheJulia | hmm... I guess I'm struggling to mentally model it completely in my head | 19:08 |
| sschmitt | I don't fully conceptually get it either still, but what I understand is that there are three hot wires (as opposed to one normally), so these three banks are split between those | 19:43 |
| TheJulia | So that is likely okay because any distinct circuit would be a blend of three phases, two distinct phases, or a single phase | 19:52 |
| TheJulia | You can’t individually switch a leg off a three phase transformer or bad things happen | 19:52 |
| TheJulia | And multiphase Pdus have been a thing for a while in data centers… some servers get 120-ish volts… some can get 208 as they are on two phases of the three phase explicitly | 19:54 |
| * TheJulia is a repository of semi-useless knowledge | 19:57 | |
| * TheJulia is also an electrical inspector’s worst nightmare | 19:57 | |
| sschmitt | Hahaha | 19:57 |
| sschmitt | Again I'm not sure electrically how it works exactly, all I know is that SNMP wise it is different than the other ones | 19:58 |
| TheJulia | The company that did my panel upgrade tried to get me to go work for them…. | 19:58 |
| TheJulia | Hmmm interesting… | 19:58 |
| TheJulia | If you have a model number, I would be curious | 19:59 |
| sschmitt | https://www.servertech.com/power-distribution-unit-pdu/switched-pops-pdu/0u-vertical-2G33 | 20:01 |
| TheJulia | So yeah, each port is two phases with a 208v output voltage | 20:08 |
| TheJulia | Each plug is two of three legs of three phase power | 20:10 |
| TheJulia | You have l1, l2, and a physical earth ground | 20:11 |
| TheJulia | No neutral like in 120v | 20:11 |
| TheJulia | Neutrals are from when you center tap a transformer | 20:11 |
| TheJulia | Where split phase terminology comes from | 20:12 |
| sschmitt | Ahhh | 20:14 |
| TheJulia | If your in the us, your 240 outlets/plugs are from each side of the transformer, 120 is from just one side and the center tap which also gets bonded to physical earth ground | 20:16 |
| * TheJulia may also be pondering taking the home completely off-grid if California implements a solar tax | 20:16 | |
| TheJulia | Well, more like mandatory profit for your utility company tax | 20:17 |
| sschmitt | That does ring a bell from a Technology Connections video | 20:17 |
| TheJulia | \o/ | 20:20 |
| *** buhman_ is now known as buhman | 22:14 | |
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